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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Clay Travis
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. And let's just take a moment to remember something. Trump is not tired of winning. He is on a world tour. Well, a Mideast tour, but a world tour of winning, if you will. And he's talking about a lot of things that are going to be, I think, big wins for the country, which is the most important thing of all. So we got about $600 billion of Saudi investment, I think that he says has been now committed to the US he's trying to pick up $1 trillion of direct investment from foreign countries in the Mid east into the United States stock market. Oh man, it's looking so good. All of a sudden. Everyone their 401ks, I remember a few weeks ago, these are people's retirements you're destroying, right? I mean, the whole thing and eggs.
Buck Sexton
2 buck like inflation, all of the things that they have tried to turn into like Sort of things to weigh down the Trump presidency with. They've all collapsed. Eggs are coming back down. I saw this morning, I was reading this is the biggest drop in egg prices in a month since 1984. The stock market is now positive for the year, which is. Hey, what are you going to argue there? We got to your point. Middle east, like, everything they try to hit him with, it just blows back up in their face.
Clay Travis
Yeah. I mean, and they're, they're talking so much about this, the jet gift thing. You know, I'm just going to tell you, it's just hard for me to pretend to care enough about these things when they get. What about the emoluments clause? Okay, well, I remember when the Washington Post was writing stories about how the emoluments clause was in violation. Do you remember this, Clay? At the Trump Hotel? Because they did an analysis and there were foreign, basically embassy staff, ambassadors, whatever, who were eating and drinking at the Trump Hotel. And they were saying this is a violation because if the attache from Madagascar has a bacon cheeseburger, maybe he can get Trump to change foreign policy. Like, it was crazy stuff that they were pushing now.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Clay Travis
A $300 million jet is, is a, is much, a much bigger gift than the, the profit margin on a cheeseburger when you own a hotel and they have to pay the staff and everything. My, my point merely being, it's just hard at this point. How much am I going to sit around and. Oh, my gosh, you see, Trump, the hysteria stuff, I can't, I just, I can't do it right. I can't get myself to care about these things that they're trying to tell us to care so much about. But we should look at some of the other wins that Trump has racked up. You see, a federal judge has ruled in favor of the Alien Enemies. Alien Enemies act, deportation. Um, the Milwaukee County Judge, Hannah Dugan. Remember her?
Buck Sexton
The.
Clay Travis
I'm going to hide the illegal in my courtroom because federal law doesn't apply to me as some, you know, rinky dink judge up in, up in Wisconsin, she is. She has been indicted by a grand jury for basically aiding and abetting a, you know, a person who's on the run in her courtroom. I think that's a win. So you've got all this. You got inflation lower than expected. I think we mentioned that yesterday, but it came in at what, like 2.4% or something? Inflation. Just imagine what this economy starts to look like as you get more trade deals, Clay, And a few basis points get dropped from this or, you know, they start dropping rates. Just put it, put it simply, I think these are all the kinds of wins that Trump is going to be able to. To rack up. And. And then there's also the drug price. Look, Trump was on with our friend Sean Hannity last night. Sean's traveling with him through the Middle East. I thought this was really interesting. He's talking about opening up China to US businesses. This is cut 13. Play it.
Donald Trump
One of the things I think that could be most exciting for us and also for China is that we're trying to open up China because, as you know, many years ago, we opened up the usa. Now it's time for China to open up. And that' of our deal, and we're going to open up China. To me, that's the most exciting part. But, yeah, we made a deal. The relationship is very good. I've always had a good relationship with President Xi. It was interrupted because of COVID obviously. But outside of that, I've always had a great relationship, a lot of respect for him, and we'll see how that all works out. But we have the confines of a very, very strong deal with China.
Clay Travis
Clay, as we get more details about this, we're very. We don't really have any details right now, but they're gonna have to provide something. We're gonna hear more about this. I think that, look, I don't want to get ahead of things, but it just feels like the Trump team is simultaneously firing on all cylinders and also keeping things pretty much on schedule. You know, they're moving at the pace that they said they'd be moving and getting things done the way they said they would from the start.
Buck Sexton
Just think about this. Because you worked in the CIA, you've spent a lot of time overseas. One of the big criticisms of Trump for much of his political career is that he isn't able to handle foreign affairs. That that's probably one of the. We're going to get into World War Three. He has no idea what he's doing. Let's just think, Buck, in the last week, what he has helped to accomplish. First of all, Marco Rubio is doing an amazing job. He has 48 different jobs inside of the government right now, but it didn't get very much attention. You mentioned it on the show quite a lot last week. But I do think it's significant that India and Pakistan, not really great historic friends, they. They were in danger of having a conflict, spiral out of control. Trump engaged in some form of mediation to help settle that situation down in potentially tomorrow in Istanbul, we may have the first face to face meeting between Zelensky and Putin since Putin invaded Ukraine in what, February or March of 2022, whenever that initial invasion started, if I remember correctly. And they are only meeting there according to reports, if Trump will show up. So they're begging Trump to go to Istanbul. We also have Trump normalizing relations with Syria, which is being seen even by Trump critics as a potential stroke of genius that could massively aid stabilization in the Middle east by cutting off the long term relationship of Iran, which was basically using Syria as a proxy terror state and helping along with Russia to prop up Assad, the dictator who has now been removed. Okay, I'm just kind of giving people a little bit of a rundown here. You get the final American terrorist who's been held for something like 580 days. Edon Alexander, hostage, sorry, held by terrorist, Edon Alexander, the final American innocent back. And you also potentially get the trade deal done with China. Any one of those that I just ran through would be typically huge, monumental, one week or more stories. Trump has done them all. Not to mention getting trillions of dollars potentially in aid and commitment from Middle Eastern countries like the uae, like Qatar, like Saudi Arabia to invest in American business. That seems like a pretty good, pretty good few days.
Clay Travis
And I do think as well you can already lay out more initiatives, conversations, ideas that have. Some of it has already. I mean, I view the border is actually a international relations issue, right? We think of it very much as it's so much tied in. It's the economy, it's domestic and national security. It's all these different things. But especially when you have a border clay that had almost 200 nations people arriving at illegally. I think the final number from border patrol I saw was like 180 something, right? I mean there's not that many countries in the world. So you got illegals from all over the world and now they're trying to figure out how to get them back. And that requires foreign relations and that requires using pressure, carrots and sticks. And that has already been a massive success. That alone is more than I can attest to for four years of the Biden administration sending the absolutely hapless and professionally worthless. Maybe he's a nice man. Professionally worthless. Anthony Blinken, as Secretary of State. To do what? I mean if you, we sit here and we talk so much about Biden's dementia, it's worth remembering everyone, this, this team was president for four years. What is the one win that you can point to on foreign policy. And I know some of you are already shouting, look at the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, how they did that. No, we all know that. I'm saying, you find me the one win that they have on the world stage, that you could point what getting us embroiled in the endless supplying of a war between Russia and Ukraine, that Russia is slowly winning and choking off Ukraine and killing a generation of Ukrainian fighters. Like, what exactly was Biden able to accomplish? And I mean, his team, really, because we all know about Biden himself. And then you see what Trump is claiming. We're 100 and, I don't know, 120 or something days into the administration or less than that. And already you're talking about a true strategic shift in our relationship with China, which is, I mean, the EU is the largest economy in the world. Right. But if we break it down, it's us and then it's China by nation state. That's a big deal. And we're not even talking about this stuff from the Mideast and the trillion dollars of investment that he's going to be bringing in from there.
Buck Sexton
I also think, and it has not been recognized, and probably that's because a lot of people are morons, he's also now strategically really isolated Iran and given himself substantial leeway when it comes to negotiating this new deal. And let me explain in basically one minute what I mean by this. Syria is now going to be viewing Trump as a hero. They certainly view Saudi Arabia as heroic for helping to get them off of the sanctions list.
Clay Travis
Yeah, I was going to say he pulled off the sanctions, which means Syria now has a chance. Let's see what this country can do. Let's see what the new leadership of Syria can do. There's been a big opening here for them. You know, you want to, you want to do good things. Trump's going to bring good things to you. You want to play stupid games, you're going to win stupid prizes.
Buck Sexton
Great relationship, even better maybe than it's ever been with Saudi Arabia, the uae, Qatar, Syria. We know that historically Israel is an ally of the United States. I would submit to you that Trump has now given himself the leeway, if necessary, to have strikes against Iran and not have other parts of the Middle east react and say, oh my goodness, what in the world is Trump doing? Iran is really, really isolated now because Syria is not going to care. Certainly Saudi Arabia doesn't want a nuclear powered Iran. The UAE doesn't want that. Qatar doesn't want that. Israel, Israel doesn't want that. They may be coming from different perspectives, but they're all aligned now with the United States in the Middle East. We have managed to kind of, in the Ghostbusters analogy, Buck, bring cats and dogs together to marshal them against Iran. And you've been over there. When's the last time you even heard a story about Iraq? Yeah, I mean, what. I don't, I mean, I'm going to be honest, you used to read 20 stories a day about what was going on in Iraq when we were spending, wasting unfortunately trillions of dollars on Iraq. I can't even tell you what is going on in Iraq. Do you have any. I don't really have any clue. Remember when we killed Soleimani, it was, oh my God, World War three is going to happen. I don't remember the last time Iraq had any sort of major say on the larger geopolitical stage.
Clay Travis
Yeah, I mean, you haven't seen an Iraq story in quite some time. I think it's kind of limping along as a country, but it has certainly, yeah, it's dropped out of the headlines. I can't even think of the last story that we talked about on this show about Iraq. But on the Iran isolation from the world, I mean, the problem, and I think you can see this very clearly, the Obama administration essentially gave up all other possible wins in the Middle east and created a disaster. I mean, I would clay I could do a three hour show right now off the top of my head on what a disaster Obama's foreign policy, which Biden was in charge of, by the way, allegedly that what a disaster Obama's foreign policy was. And even Democrats, some of them were like, this is just, I can't, this is so indefensible and on so many levels. It was atrocious, but it was all to get Iran further enmeshed in the international system, give them essentially inducements for better behavior. It did not work. Iran did not behave better. And I know people say, oh well, Trump got us out of it. Yeah, because he saw where this was going. He saw what the inducements got us, which is this, this is a corrupt and evil regime. There's no, there's no turning it around with them now. This is who the mullahs are, so to speak. It's who the IRGC is. And there, I think is just the understanding that Trump has on foreign policy of who are friends, who are enemies, how do we treat them, do they know the difference? And the answer with Trump to those questions is quite clear.
Buck Sexton
I think I think that's 100% right.
Clay Travis
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Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
Clay Travis
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
Buck Sexton
No.
Leon Nayfak
It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot of you weighing in variety of different talkbacks. Maybe we'll have some fun, get some of these. We're. Well, actually we've got what the HUD secretary with us right coming up at the bottom of the hour here in just a couple of minutes, Scott Turner. And in the third hour, I'm really kind of fascinated. You and I were talking about this some off the air, the Puff Daddy, Diddy, whatever you want to call it. Trial.
Clay Travis
We'll just make Sean Combs.
Buck Sexton
Can we pick a name? We pick a name, we'll go Sean Combs Trial which is currently underway in New York City. He faces potential life in prison. We're going to talk with Paul Murrow who was on what a couple of weeks ago with us. Right. He's covering this trial like in the courtroom, I think.
Clay Travis
Right, yeah. He was my boss at the intel division of the NYPD. So it feels like life has come full circle 15 years later.
Buck Sexton
So we will talk with him and we'll play some of these great talkbacks. Encourage you to continue to weigh in. Download the iHeartRadio app. You can listen to us anywhere in the country and you can also talk back. That way you, you don't have to wait in line in the event that you call and we may or may not be able to get to you. By the way, Dean Phillips was the Minnesota congressman who ran against Joe Biden and told everybody, you know, makes it particularly hard, he should write the guy making the argument.
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Correct. And they all dismissed him and refused to cover him as a legitimate candidate. So there was somebody making the case that they claim they didn't have any idea about.
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Hannah Dugan
Oh, okay.
Clay Travis
Well, he will make time for us. If not now.
Buck Sexton
He was, he was there a second ago. We'll bring him back up. The team that Trump has put together, Buck, I think we have talked about this quite a bit on the Cabinet. We've had most of the Cabinet on this program at this point in time. And you and I are going to be up in D.C. some in June. I'm going to be up there for a couple of weeks, and I imagine we'll get the rest of the Cabinet that we haven't had on at that point in time. But I think that there's movement on all the different fronts. We were talking about all the international moves that Trump is making. One thing that Trump is very focused on is what's going on with Washington, D.C. in particular. We talked about the United States Attorney. He's now nominated Judge Jeanine to replace Attorney Martin, who we had on, I think, last week, if I remember correctly, who has done a great job. It's getting safer. Violence is declining. People are coming back to work. And a big part of that is just making Washington, D.C. for those of you who have been or are going to be going in the near future, a place where you can go and feel safe and feel proud of the United States because it is not a cesspool of violence. And unfortunately, what we saw in the last decade or so was the D.C. violent crime rate ticked back up, massively skyrocketed during the Biden tenure, and now Trump is back in. They're prosecuting violent criminals and they are beginning to decline the overall amount of violence associated with our nation's capital.
Clay Travis
It's always worth remembering. And those of you who have traveled to other places around the world where there is, there are places. There are, I mean, there are countries. I don't mean there are neighborhoods, there are entire nations where crime is not a thing that people talk about or worry about. And so when you start from this, you know, one of the problems I think we've had in America is that there's this belief that just maybe seeps into your mind after a while that, oh, well, we just, there's a lot of crime here and that's just the way it has to be because, like, we can't, we can't conquer this problem or we can't make it much better than it is. Well, it's a little bit like when people are saying the Border is such a mess, we could never fix it. No, you can. And crime actually can be dramatically lower than it is as well. We know what the steps are. We know what the tools are. It's just about having the political will to do it and to address some of these challenges in society in a way. Oh, we got him back. Okay, well, my crime, my crime lecture will wait for another time. Here we have now the HUD Secretary, Scott Turner. Mr. Secretary Turner. Good to have you on, sir.
Hannah Dugan
Hey, great to be with you guys. Clay and Buck, so thankful for you guys having me on.
Clay Travis
Oh, we appreciate you, sir. So let's dive into this. How does. How does HUD play in the realm of the men and women's sports issue? Something we talk about here a lot on the show. I mean, I know that there's a Biden equal access rule and that affects HUD funded providers like Shelter Services and others. How has the policy changed when it comes to HUD on men and women's spaces in general?
Hannah Dugan
Well, that's a great question. And you alluded to the equal access rule. We took that rule down. That was a Biden era rule. We took that rule down on day one. And what it says now is that men and women, so if you are a biological female, you are allowed to go into fear female HUD funded shelters. But if you are not a biological female, you are no longer able or allowed to enter into HUD funded facilities, including shelters that are for females. This is for our females only. And you know the President, I'm so grateful for him restoring biological truth back to our country. If you are a female at birth, if you are a male at birth, there's only two sexes, male and female. That's a biological truth. It's a biblical truth. And so we're very proud here at HUD to protect the ladies of our country. And when you talk about men and women's sports, you know, guys, I have four sisters, I have a wife, I have a mother, all of my sisters and I have nine nieces. They were all athletes and they spent painstaking time to prepare to train to compete against other females and not to compete against males. And so I'm grateful for the President's leadership on this. I'm a 100% supporter of men should compete against men, women should compete against women. And at HUD we are upholding that truth when it comes to our HUD funded facilities.
Buck Sexton
Secretary, you played nine years in the NFL. What percentage of NFL players do you think are against men being able to compete in Women's sports.
Hannah Dugan
Man, if I just had to guess, I would say 100%. You know, being playing in the NFL, you know, and being in that locker room, playing against the best athletes in the world, just from a common sense standpoint.
Buck Sexton
Yep.
Hannah Dugan
To have a lady compete in the NFL or contact football against men that literally could take your life or hurt you real bad, that just makes no sense. And so I would hope to say that it'd be 100% of guys, but.
Buck Sexton
It would be a crazy percentage. And my argument has been the higher level athletics you have played, I think every guy who plays high school, college, obviously very small percentage goes on like you did to play in the pros. But the more of an athlete you are, the crazier I think you think this is.
Hannah Dugan
Absolutely. I agree. You know, when you go from high school to college to the pros, the level of competition, the strength, the speed, the attitude, you know, there's no comparison. And so I think that guys, like I said before, that are in an NFL locker room or in an NBA locker room or a Major League Baseball locker room, they are. You know, we think the same. And when you break it down just to the training, the type of training that we do, and, you know, we have ladies that are in professional sports that train vigorously, that train, they're so committed. But when it comes to game and competition, women should compete against women and men should compete against men. You know, I saw videos of a precious volleyball girl. I can't remember her name. She was a female playing in a volleyball match, and there was a transgender man, I guess, on the other side.
Buck Sexton
And hey, McNabb, I think was her name. Sorry to cut you off, but Peyton McNabb, I think you're right. That video went viral. That dude soaring up above the net and smashing the ball and a way that a woman couldn't.
Hannah Dugan
That's it. I mean, end of story.
Buck Sexton
You were just with the president in the Oval Office for the announcement of the NFL draft coming to DC 2027, new stadium being built for Washington's team. You played for the Redskins back in the day. What is the impact of that for D.C. and what is the president's commitment mean for D.C. you think going forward?
Hannah Dugan
So, yes, I'm very excited for the Redskins or now the Commanders to bring the stadium back to the site where RFK is. I played in rfk. I was drafted by the Redskins. Just the excitement of the team coming back to the Capitol, coming back to D.C. the anticipation is great. Even inside of the press conference, you could sense the energy and anticipation from the owners, from Commissioner Goodell, from the president and others to have the stadium back. And so from a sports standpoint, it would be tremendous. But also from an economic development and a community development standpoint, this will make an impact that it hasn't had in many in decades, really, since I played for the Redskins, I played in the last game in RFK and in the first game in the stadium in Maryland. And so to bring that back from a housing standpoint, from a commercial development standpoint, retail, from a community engagement standpoint, economically, and from a personal, the people, the families will bring new life back to this area in D.C. and so I'm very excited. I know the Redskins or commander's organization is excited, and the people in the Capitol are looking forward to that.
Clay Travis
So, as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, what are just some of the top initiatives that President Trump wants you to pursue on behalf of his administration while you're in this role? I mean, because, you know, HUD doesn't tend to get the same headlines as a Treasury or the State Department does. Right. But what are some of the things that you can do at HUD that would be maga?
Hannah Dugan
Well, you're talking about housing. You know, housing impacts every family, every individual in our country, all 350 million people in this country. Housing makes an impact. Housing is not political. It's not Republican, it's not Democrat. You know, it's not red, it's not blue. We need about 7 million units of housing in our country. And while we may not be in the headlines that it pertains to the news media, what we do on a daily basis impacts every American. And so housing affordability is a major priority for us. Taking down burdensome regulations, freeing up local control, local flexibility across our country and providing the local mayors and economic development. You know, every city is unique when it pertains, as it pertains change the housing. And so we've been working really hard and tearing down rules such as the affirmatively furthering fair housing rule, which was a regional zoning issue here, that Washington was telling localities how they should zone their neighborhoods. So taking that down and restoring that back to the localities. Also, when it pertains to disaster recovery here, you know, we've had major hurricanes and fires in LA and in North Carolina. And so we are on the front lines of helping families to rebuild their families, their homes, their businesses. And so when you think about hud, think about people that are impacting families and impacting individuals right where they are, be it in housing, be it in disaster recovery, being in eradicating and attacking homelessness in our country. And so that's what we're about, guys. We literally meet people where they are. The media may not cover it in such a way as they cover other agencies, but that's not what we're concerned about to your point. What we are concerned about is the assignment we have to serve the American people that we've been called to serve. And I have the best team in America to do so.
Buck Sexton
We're talking to HUD Secretary Scott Turner. You're in D.C. now. How good is Jaden Daniels going to be?
Hannah Dugan
Jaden Daniels is a baller and I am super proud of him. You know, he just goes to work. He's one of those guys, he doesn't talk about it, he just gets it done. And what I'm really impressed about him one is his character and the way that he carries, carries himself on and off the field. But also from a professional athlete, former professional athlete standpoint, the game seems to be slow for him. And that's really, man, that's, it's miraculous that even in his rookie year, his control of the game and how the game seemed to slow down for him even in his decision making and his checkdowns and having a grasp, you know, of the game in the NFL so quickly is, is pretty miraculous.
Buck Sexton
Well, we appreciate you coming on and boy, I can't wait to see what that new stadium is going to look like. And I promise you that I will be there for the draft in 2027. That's going to be an incredible scene. Perfect location. I can't wait.
Hannah Dugan
Indeed. It's going to be epic.
Buck Sexton
I'll see you there for sure. All right. Appreciate that. That is another one of the Trump's cabinet members, the H, the HUD director, Scott Turner. Fantastic stuff there. Want to tell you, speaking of fantastic stuff, Buck, are you nervous? Are you nervous about the Knicks 50 years not being able to get things done? Are you getting nervous about tonight's game where the Knicks can advance to the Eastern Conference finals? Maybe a little bit.
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And I don't think it's. You think the series is over? I don't think the series is over. I think it's easy for you, Mr. I live in Nashville, to just make this assumption about my New York Knicks. My New York Knicks never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity that is.
Buck Sexton
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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
Clay Travis
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
Buck Sexton
No.
Donald Trump
No one was let go.
Leon Nayfak
It became known as the Iran Contra.
Sean Combs
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the universe here. We got a bunch of people who want to to weigh in on a variety of different talkbacks. Joe from New York City EE let's hear it.
Clay Travis
You want to see something funny? Go to the grocery store on Thanksgiving morning. You'll see 20 guys online with one item getting what their wife forgot to get during the week. And we all look scared to death because we know we got the wrong thing.
Buck Sexton
You know what I'm talking about. Those of you Ms. Buck has found out that men get sent to the grocery store and can never find what their wife actually wants. That thing about the number of products that are all eerily similar and the label might be just a subtle difference in color or whatever. I remember when we used to do for the formula, you know, when we would, we had the babies and my wife had stopped breastfeeding or supplements or whatever else. I remember standing in front of the supplement aisle for, for, for babies the first time that I did it and I felt like I might as well have been. I mean I had no idea what I was doing. And all of them just have a subtle little variation. A little bit different label color, little bit different size. And even with a picture, I'm going to be honest, I struggled to know what I was supposed to be getting. I think it was Similac back in the day.
Clay Travis
Let me ask you, when your wife says sends you for fruit Clay, which probably, you know, happens and she says you got the organic kind. Right. Is it really a lie to just give yourself the benefit of the doubt because it looks the same. I would lie. It's the same apple.
Buck Sexton
I would lie and I wouldn't call it a lie because it's possible. You did get the organic kind of.
Clay Travis
You didn't even realize this is tie goes to the runner, in this case the runner for the food.
Buck Sexton
Well, this is like the whole idea with apples. You know, you're supposed to wash them. Really like that. That is going to solve everything. You know, you get like an apple you like you just put it underneath the, underneath the sink there for like, I don't know, 10 seconds. Like that really is going to take care of everything. A lot of the stuff that we.
Clay Travis
Do, I don't know, 10 second rule, isn't it? It's like 10 seconds under the water, it's all fine.
Buck Sexton
Now, okay, does that seem likely? I mean, if there's really bad pesticides on the apple, is going to put it underneath the water for 10 seconds. Really substantially al health. So a lot of these things that we do, I'm not sure that they have any benefit. I know that when my wife has gone back, when I have told her, hey, what you sent me to find wasn't there, and she's like, I don't buy that. At least twice that I can remember, once she went and she found it, which was not good because she found it immediately.
Clay Travis
You're in the doghouse, then that's bad.
Buck Sexton
Other times she couldn't find it. And I just remember how stunned she was when she came back. She was like, it really, really wasn't there. I could be correct. Was just boggled her mind.
Clay Travis
She. She now sometimes will text me and then tell me what to get at grocery store and then follow it up with a photo because she knows if there's no photo, I'm just going to get whatever the food, the general food product is. She sends me to get yogurt Clay. I feel like Indiana Jones with the boulder rolling, boulder rolling after him, you.
Buck Sexton
Know, like such a great scene, you.
Clay Travis
Know, and, and it's like I switched the wrong yogurt where the idol goes or something. And now I'm in it. I can never get the right yogurt. There's so many types.
Buck Sexton
To be fair, I'm rarely shopping for anything, so I, I just don't even make the attempt at this point. But, but that's because I've failed so many times that I can't be trusted. We'll try not to fail anymore with you. At the top of the next hour, we're going up to New York City where this Sean Combs trial is to going, going on. Really interesting. We'll discuss next.
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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra Affair.
Clay Travis
The thing should happen, and we're so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Episode: Hour 2 - HUD Secretary Scott Turner
Release Date: May 14, 2025
In the second hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into a range of pressing topics, from the Trump administration's recent achievements to an insightful interview with Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Scott Turner. This episode provides listeners with a comprehensive overview of current political dynamics, economic indicators, and significant policy shifts, all delivered with the hosts' characteristic intelligence and humor.
Foreign Investments and Economic Growth
Clay and Buck begin by highlighting President Donald Trump's ongoing world tour, emphasizing his efforts to attract substantial foreign investments into the United States. Travis remarks, “He is on a world tour... trying to pick up $1 trillion of direct investment from foreign countries in the Middle East into the United States stock market” (01:50). This influx includes approximately $600 billion from Saudi Arabia, aiming to bolster the U.S. economy and stock market.
Economic Indicators: Inflation and Market Performance
The discussion shifts to positive economic indicators under Trump's leadership. Buck Sexton points out, “The stock market is now positive for the year” (02:59), highlighting a significant turnaround from earlier economic concerns. Additionally, Travis mentions a notable drop in egg prices, reflecting broader inflation trends: “I saw this morning... the biggest drop in egg prices in a month since 1984” (02:28).
Foreign Policy Milestones
The hosts commend Trump’s foreign policy moves, citing several strategic achievements:
Mediation in India-Pakistan Relations: Buck notes Trump’s role in easing tensions between historically adversarial nations, potentially preventing conflicts.
Potential Zelensky-Putin Meeting: Travis anticipates a high-stakes meeting in Istanbul, which could reshape the Ukraine-Russia dynamic.
Normalization with Syria: Buck describes the move as “a potential stroke of genius” that could stabilize the Middle East by isolating Iran and reducing its influence through proxy states like Syria.
Hostage Release: The successful release of Edon Alexander, an American hostage held for over 580 days, is highlighted as a humanitarian victory.
China Trade Deal: Buck shares a clip from Trump discussing the opening of China to U.S. businesses, further solidifying international trade relations.
Travis adds, “These are all the kinds of wins that Trump is going to be able to rack up” (04:38), underscoring the administration’s multifaceted approach to governance.
The hosts draw sharp contrasts between Trump’s proactive strategies and the perceived ineffectiveness of the Biden administration. Travis criticizes Biden’s handling of border security and foreign policy, stating, “You find me the one win that they have on foreign policy” (04:38), and dismisses the Biden administration’s achievements as minimal compared to Trump’s robust initiatives.
Buck Sexton elaborates on Biden's shortcomings, particularly in foreign affairs, arguing that Trump has revitalized relationships and strategies that Biden failed to address effectively. The conversation emphasizes Trump’s dynamic and results-driven approach versus Biden’s stagnant policies.
The highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with HUD Secretary Scott Turner, where key topics include housing policies, gender issues in HUD-funded facilities, and upcoming development projects in Washington, D.C.
Changes to the Equal Access Rule
Secretary Turner discusses the administration's reversal of the Biden-era Equal Access Rule:
“We took that rule down on day one. Now, if you are a biological female, you are allowed to go into female HUD-funded shelters. If you are not a biological female, you are no longer allowed to enter these facilities...” (25:09).
This policy shift underscores the administration’s commitment to maintaining gender-segregated spaces based on biological sex, a stance Turner passionately defends by asserting it aligns with "biological truth" and "biblical truth."
Transgender Issues in Sports
Addressing the contentious topic of transgender athletes, Turner emphasizes the importance of maintaining separate competitions for men and women:
“Men should compete against men, women should compete against women... It just makes no sense to have a lady compete in the NFL... that could take your life or hurt you real bad” (27:21).
He argues that the physical disparities make mixed-gender competitions unfair and unsafe, reflecting the administration’s broader policies on gender and fairness.
HUD Initiatives: Housing Affordability and Deregulation
Secretary Turner outlines HUD’s priorities, focusing on housing affordability and reducing regulatory burdens:
“Housing affordability is a major priority... taking down burdensome regulations, freeing up local control, local flexibility across our country” (31:08).
He highlights the administration’s efforts to eliminate the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rule, restoring zoning authority to localities and enhancing flexibility for economic development.
Disaster Recovery and Community Development
Turner also emphasizes HUD’s role in disaster recovery, assisting communities affected by hurricanes and wildfires. He underscores the agency’s commitment to rebuilding homes and businesses, thereby supporting families and fostering community resilience.
Upcoming Projects: New Stadium for the Commanders
A significant portion of the interview covers the announcement of a new stadium for the Washington Commanders:
“Bringing the stadium back to the Capitol... tremendous from a sports standpoint and also from an economic development and community development standpoint” (29:47).
Turner expresses optimism about the positive economic and social impacts the new stadium will have on the D.C. area, reinvigorating local businesses and fostering community engagement.
Interspersed with serious discussions, Clay and Buck engage in light-hearted banter about common household scenarios, such as the challenges men face while shopping for groceries. These segments add a relatable and entertaining dimension to the show, balancing the intense political discourse.
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a robust exploration of the Trump administration’s strategies and accomplishments, juxtaposed against critiques of the current Biden administration. The insightful interview with HUD Secretary Scott Turner provides a clear view of the administration’s policies on housing and gender issues, while also highlighting significant development projects aimed at revitalizing Washington, D.C. Through a blend of serious analysis and engaging conversation, Clay and Buck deliver a comprehensive and informative episode for their listeners.
Notable Quotes:
Clay Travis: “He is on a world tour... trying to pick up $1 trillion of direct investment from foreign countries in the Middle East into the United States stock market.” (01:50)
Buck Sexton: “The stock market is now positive for the year.” (02:59)
HUD Secretary Scott Turner: “We took that rule down on day one... If you are a biological female, you are allowed to go into female HUD-funded shelters.” (25:09)
HUD Secretary Scott Turner: “Men should compete against men, women should compete against women... It just makes no sense to have a lady compete in the NFL... that could take your life or hurt you real bad.” (27:21)
HUD Secretary Scott Turner: “Housing affordability is a major priority... taking down burdensome regulations, freeing up local control, local flexibility across our country.” (31:08)
Note: The timestamps provided correspond to the points in the transcript where the quotes appear, enabling listeners to reference specific sections of the episode.