Hour 2 - Illustrating Absurdity by Being Absurd

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 - Illustrating Absurdity by Being Absurd
Date: August 4, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Guest: Ken Paxton (Texas Senate Candidate, current Texas Attorney General)

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Overview

This episode orbits around two primary themes:

1. Texas Senate Race Spotlight – Clay and Buck interview Ken Paxton about his campaign for the U.S. Senate against Democrat James Talarico, addressing campaign dynamics, policy differences, and national implications.
2. Absurdity in Gender and Sports Policy – The segment expands on issues of trans athletes in women's sports, using satirical proposals, high-profile sports examples, and commentary to “illustrate absurdity by being absurd.”

The hosts balance political analysis and humor while underscoring the broader cultural and political battles at play.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Segments

1. Texas Senate Race: Paxton vs. Talarico

[01:11–11:17]

The State of the Race & Fundraising Disparities

• Polling: Buck notes conflicting polls, some showing Talarico ahead, others Paxton (01:11).
• Paxton’s View: "I've seen polls where I'm up a few points. I've seen polls where I'm down a few points. I think this is a close race." (Ken Paxton, 02:20)
• Fundraising Disparity: Talarico has “$30 million” from sources including ActBlue and California donors, while Paxton, coming off a tough primary, is “trying to raise money” (02:20).

Key Policy Differences

• Transgender Sports Politics:

  • In response to Talarico allegedly shifting positions, Paxton states:

    "Men need to compete against men and women need to compete against women ... There is no compromise." (Ken Paxton, 04:16)

• Immigration & Border Security:

  • Paxton contrasts his record of “suing the Biden and Obama administration 20 times” and building the border wall, versus Talarico, who “voted against every single bill that would have protected our border” (Ken Paxton, 05:13).
  • “He was doing everything within his power to stop that from happening.” (Ken Paxton, 06:20)

National Support and Republican Unity

• On Trump’s support:
  • "I am a huge fan of President Trump ... I love that attitude. I love that fight." (Ken Paxton, 07:16)
  • Paxton hopes Trump’s resources and national fundraising mechanisms will help close the ad spending gap before the intensive ad blitz expected after Labor Day.

Out-of-State Money

• “More than half his money is coming from out of state ... a very high percentage.” (Ken Paxton, 08:40)

Campaign Messaging Hurdles

• “There is a challenge of convincing people that we do have a close race ... it’s largely about funding the race. If ... we have the resources ... I think we win the race by a very decent margin.” (Ken Paxton, 10:05)

Cultural & Ideological Differences

• Buck ridicules Talarico as someone who "believes there are six genders ... not even a guy that enjoys eating meat. That seems like a really difficult proposition for Texas." (Buck Sexton, 09:25)

Economic Perspective

• On Biden-era Inflation:
  • "They did it on purpose by borrowing money and spending it ... But it hurt the American people." (Ken Paxton, 11:57)
  • Paxton promises an upcoming “economic plan” announcement.

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2. College Football & Texas Culture

[13:03–15:15]

• Hosts prod Paxton for a prediction among the top Texas college football teams; he notes Texas and Texas A&M have “pretty good chance[s]” and expects to be present at games during campaign season.
• “I will be likely at a college football game every Saturday, different stadiums obviously around the state, meeting people and enjoying the scene with my constituents.” (Ken Paxton, 15:03)

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3. Absurdity in Sports Gender Policies

[15:44–32:14]

Clay’s WNBA Challenge & “Nashville Balls” Satire

• Clay reiterates his $10 million challenge: “$10 million for a head to head basketball game between the defending WNBA champion Las Vegas Aces and a boys high school state title team of my choice.” (Clay Travis, 25:13)
• “Sometimes the best way to respond to absurdity is by layering another level of absurd on it.” (Clay Travis, 26:33)
• Proposal for an all-trans “Nashville Balls” WNBA team is presented as satirical commentary on the league’s policies, provoking reactions from other hosts and podcasts.
  • “The Travis owned Nashville Balls will be the most inclusive women's men's team in NBA history. Stop discriminating against us.” (Damon Roberts quoting Clay Travis, 23:53)

Guest and Host Discussions on Gender and Fairness

• “If you have Charles Barkley put on a wig and be like, yeah, I'm a woman now, let's play. You know, how could they say no?” (Clay Travis, 27:55)
• Both cite past actual sports matchups (e.g., US women’s soccer vs. youth boys), reinforcing arguments about fairness and biological difference in sports.

Broader Commentary from Other Shows

• Clips played from Studio 6B and Chicks on the Right reacting to Clay’s challenge and mocking the WNBA’s policies.

Tennis: The WTA’s Gender Policy Example

• Audio clip from world number one Arina Sabalenka:
  • “It’s obvious that biologically, men are way stronger than women. So I feel like it would be not really fair for the women to compete against biological men... I support [the gender test decision].” (Arina Sabalenka, 31:41)

The “Illustrating Absurdity” Philosophy

• Buck sums up the hour’s philosophy: “Absurdity oftentimes cuts through the noise because we can sit here and say … Sometimes the best way to respond to absurdity is by layering another level of absurd on it.” (Buck Sexton, 26:33)

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4. Lighthearted Interlude: Family Cameos & Volleyball

[21:15–22:36; 38:00–39:42]

• Clay’s young son James appears on-air, leading to playful banter and observations about raising boys and sports fandom.
• A caller and the hosts banter humorously about the uniforms in women’s volleyball, both beach and indoor:
  • “Whoever came up with the idea that girls basically play volleyball in bikinis … is the greatest genius in the history of mankind.” (Buck Sexton, 38:50)
  • “There was a spandex for the women's heavyweight crew team in college, too, but I could tell you, not the same. Lot of armpit hair and Subarus." (Clay Travis, 39:30)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ken Paxton on Transgender Athletes:

  • “As a father of three daughters who competed in athletics, I certainly would have been opposed to boys, men in the locker rooms ... It's not a fair fight.” (04:16)

• On Border & Immigration

  • “He [Talarico] voted against every single bill that would have protected our border.” (Ken Paxton, 05:13)

• Satire on Gender Policy:

  • “My team will be 100% trans. The Travis owned Nashville Balls, the most inclusive women's/men's team in WNBA history.” (Clay Travis, as quoted by other shows, 23:53)

• Absurdity Tactic:

  • “Sometimes the best way to respond to absurdity is by layering another level of absurd on it.” (Clay Travis, 26:33)

• Arina Sabalenka on Fairness in Tennis:

  • “It would be not really fair for the woman to compete against biological men. … I support it [gender testing].” (31:41)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:11 – Program's main interview with Ken Paxton begins.
• 02:20 – Paxton addresses the polling and race dynamics.
• 04:16 – Paxton’s response to trans athletes in women’s sports.
• 05:13–06:20 – Immigration policy contrasts between Paxton and Talarico.
• 07:16 – Discussion on Trump’s support, campaign fundraising.
• 09:25–10:05 – Talarico’s ideological views and their resonance in Texas.
• 11:57 – Paxton’s take on the economy and future plans.
• 13:03 – Texas college football banter.
• 15:44 – Transition into gender in sports and the “Nashville Balls” segment.
• 22:36–24:12 – Syndicated and podcast reactions to the WNBA challenge.
• 31:34–32:14 – Arina Sabalenka clip on gender policy in tennis.
• 38:00–39:42 – Humorous riff on women’s volleyball uniforms.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a showcase in “illustrating absurdity by being absurd”—unsparing political banter meets pointed cultural commentary. The extended Ken Paxton interview renders clear distinctions in campaign funding and ideology, particularly on border security and trans policies. The much-discussed gender-in-sports saga is not only deconstructed with facts and satire but also used as an allegory for broader conservative grievances with left-wing policy and rhetoric. Rich with media soundbites, cross-podcast discussion, and memorable quotes, this hour serves both as a robust update on Texas politics and an entertaining meditation on contemporary social issues.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay and Buck, rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. We are rolling into the Senate primary season, the midterms in general, and one of the nominees that is going to be, we believe, in the United States Senate starting In January of 20, 20, 27 is our friend Ken Paxton, who is on the program now. Okay, let's, let's start with some of the numbers that are out there and let you kind of dive into them. I understand there is skepticism of polls. Fox News has James Crazy Man Talarico leading you. Ken. I also saw another poll from a Texas location this morning as I was doing prep for the show, which had James Talarico up. Do you believe you're behind right now and what do you think the average Texan knows about James Talarico as we start to enter official campaign season? Do you believe that there is much still that you have to. To. To be done to make the average Texan aware of just who bit James Talarico actually is?

[Ken Paxton]

Yeah, we. I think it is close. I don't know whether the numbers are. I'm. I've seen polls where I'm up a few points. I've seen polls where I'm down a few points. I think this is a close race. But we came out of the primary on May 26 and I had, I had no money. So we've been Trying to raise money so that we can. We can compete on all forms of media. Obviously, he didn't have the runoff. He had three extra months to raise money. So he accumulated through ActBlue and through some very liberal donors from California, like $30 million. And so he's been up on TV, and that obviously is helpful to him. At some point, though, we are going to be explaining to the voters what he actually believes he's running from every position that he held in the Texas House. Everything he talked about, he's running away from those issues. And I get it. His. His issues are not popular with Texans. He wants. He wants to fool the people of Texas about what he actually believes, what he's actually voted for. But we highlight that. I cannot believe that Texas will support this guy.

[Buck Sexton]

We have been talking on this program quite a lot. You may have seen that I put $10 million on the table for a. For a boys high school team to be able to play against the wnba. There's been a lot of controversy since Sophie Cunningham came out and said men should not be able to compete in. In women's sports, which is a crazy thing that anybody would have to say. But James talarico. Guys, cut 20. He says men and women's sports is just a culture war fight to tear us apart. I want to let you react to it. Cut 20.

[Clay Travis]

I think people are really tired of these culture war fights that are designed

[Buck Sexton]

to tear us apart, designed to get us angry. I mean, there are.

[Clay Travis]

There are difficult issues trying to figure out trans athletes in sports.

[Buck Sexton]

That's an issue where we could actually

[Clay Travis]

come to a policy solution.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, what are your thoughts? Is this a difficult one? Do you think that.

[Clay Travis]

That.

[Buck Sexton]

It's very complicated, not difficult for me.

[Ken Paxton]

I mean, as a father of three daughters who competed in athletics, I certainly would have been opposed to boys, men in the locker rooms. I would have been opposed to them competing against my daughters. It's not a fair fight. And this is a guy that doesn't obviously have children, doesn't have daughters. So maybe he doesn't understand what it means to say this isn't complicated. We should be able to come to some compromise. There is no compromise. Men need to compete against men and women need to compete against women. And those two should not cross paths. It's just not fair to women.

[Clay Travis]

Ken, thanks for being here with us. Wondering if you could give us a sense of the difference between you and your opponent, Mr. Talarico, on immigration issues and what kind of things has he been saying about that? Because not only Is Texas a huge state? So there's just a lot of population to deal with the illegal immigration issue. You guys are along the border. So what, what where are you and where is he on this?

[Ken Paxton]

We couldn't be more different. And I would say that about every issue. Now, obviously now he's changed his position on some of these issues, like the transgender issues. Suddenly he's not for that. He's changed his position on the border, saying he wants a secure border. But the reality is I sued, I think Joe Biden and Barack Obama almost 20 times trying to protect our border. I'm still finishing some of those lawsuits, trying to protect our ability to build a wall and have border security and protect our people. He voted against every single bill that would have protected our border. Whether it was money for border security, our own border patrol, whether it was for helping federal border arrest people for state law crimes, whether it was building detention centers, whether it was building a wall, anything that would have helped prevent illegal immigration. James Talarico voted again. So that's the reality. He can say what he wants now, but the reality is he fought us. As I was over there fighting the Biden administration to protect and work with the Texas legislature, protect our border. He was doing everything within his power to stop that from happening.

[Buck Sexton]

The president endorsed you. You were drastically outspent in the Republican primary by John Cornyn. You just mentioned that you've been outspent already early. Talrico has been running a lot more ads. He's raising money, mostly from outside of Texas. Do you expect President Trump, who has a huge war chest, to come in and be able to help you fight back with these ads? And curious what sort of conversations you might have had about that because you've been one of his staunchest allies in all of politics. I know you went to some of the criminal trials that he was facing when a lot of people were running away from him. You've been defending him. And what sort of support do you expect from the Republicans? And for people out there that are listening to us right now and know James Talarico is a crazy left wingers. What can they do to help you be able to make sure that Texans are aware of the stakes of this race?

[Ken Paxton]

Let me just start by saying I am a huge fan of President Trump. I think he's done an amazing job. And I know what I love about him the most is that he cares so much about the American people and he's fighting to make things better for Americans. And it's the whole American first agenda. And I love that. I love that attitude. I love that fight. And yeah, I obviously would love to have financial support from as many sources as possible from donors from people all over Texas, from the president, from our Senate Leadership Fund. All of it would be helpful given the fact that my total time to raise money from May 26 to the election is only five months. It's a challenge in the summer to raise money in Texas because a lot of people are gone on vacation trying to avoid some of the heat, as you know. And so we have a limited amount of time and it will take us a while to accumulate. You said we are, we're running limited ads. We're not running really any ads at all because we are accumulating to spend that money more like mid September on assuming we raise what we want to raise. So we need help before that to compete with James Tallarico who had the extra three months, plus has the ACT Blue Network, plus has these huge liberal out of state donors from California that pop money in them.

[Clay Travis]

So, Ken, that's what I was going to ask you, actually. Can you give us a sense as to the scale and how much money is California and New York pouring into Texas to try to help Talarico?

[Ken Paxton]

I think more than half his money is coming from out of state. I would have to go back and look at the last report, June 30th. I know he received 10 million from a California liberal tech guy. And then of his 30 million total raise there was, you know, most of it was an act Lou, which was mostly out of state. So I would say a very high percentage of his money is coming from out of state. And I think that makes sense. I think Texans aren't, don't necessarily believe in James Stellarico and they're not going to once they know the truth. So he is being Bolst by out of state liberal socialist Democrats because that is effectively what he is. He's trying to act like he's some moderate Democrat. He is much more in the Mandani wing of the party than he is some moderate Democrat.

[Buck Sexton]

He says there are six genders. We've played that audio before. He believes that people are being too cruel when it comes to shutting down borders. He's not even a guy that enjoys eating meat. That seems like a really difficult proposition for Texas. And again, I think it comes back to a large extent on do you have the ability to get all of those statements out for the average Texan to see? In particular, as you well know, a lot of people just aren't paying attention right now. And the Democrat crazy wing is so committed to their side that making everybody understand the stakes is sometimes one of the biggest aspects of this. Right?

[Ken Paxton]

Yeah, no doubt about it. First of all, I'd love to know what the six channers are. I'm still waiting for him to tell us this idea that he's somehow loves meat. Now when he was running a, a vegan campaign and he announced it wearing a mask saying that it was, you know, meat was hurting, you know, climate change problems. So this idea now suddenly he eats meat is just, it's, it's typical. He, he's doing the flip flop because he knows that those positions were popular with leftist Democrats, socialist Democrats in the primary, but they're not popular with most Texans. And so he's changed his positions. But there's no doubt that there is a challenge of convincing people that we do have a close race. And it's, it's largely about, you know, funding the race. If people, I truly believe, if we have the resources to, as you said, highlight what he actually has said, his own words, his own votes, his own videos, his own interviews, I think we win the race by not actually won't be a close race. We will win by a very decent margin. It's just a matter of getting people to pay attention. And as you know, where midterm elections tend to favor the party not in power and they're motivated, we need to make sure every single Republican gets out and vote. If they don't, then we've got problems.

[Clay Travis]

I'm wondering what your sense is for the Texans that you talk to, the everyday Texan, the rank and file about how are they feeling about this economy and how is that affecting how they view your Senate race, the GOP more broadly, because President Trump is in charge. Stock market's at an all time high today, but there's a lot of chatter online about people feeling the heat, or rather feeling the pinch from high prices for groceries, high rent prices. So how do you describe the feeling of the average Texan about the economy and what do you think could be done when you're in the Senate to help?

[Ken Paxton]

Yeah, I do think it's a, it's a legitimate issue. Obviously, the Biden administration, when they were in office, spent a lot of money, they created a lot of inflation, drove up the cost of housing, drove up the cost of groceries, the cost of gas, if you remember, gas was very high during the Biden administration. So, you know, they did it on purpose by borrowing money and spending it and giving it away. To all kinds of different projects. But it hurt the American people. And of course, with this war going on with Iran, we now have high gas prices. Again, they've come down. And so it is definitely having an impact because gas prices, energy prices affect the entire economy. They increase the cost of goods in all kinds of different environments, including groceries and other things that people care about. So we definitely have some, some things to deal with. And I'm certainly hopeful that this thing with Iran can, can come to an end successfully. And of course, I don't have the intelligence on how that's working. But I'm very optimistic that President Trump understands this situation, understands where America, what Americans are dealing with. And when I have the opportunity, we're actually going to announce an economic plan that I think will help. We're going to do that later today. So stay tuned on that.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, I've got the toughest question for you in the state of Texas. The coaches poll just came out for college football. I'm not sure if you've seen this yet, so nobody's been able to maybe get you breaking news. All right, so here's breaking news for Texans out there. This is the coaches poll. Texas Longhorns preseason number four. Texas A&M preseason number eight. Texas Tech preseason number 12. SMU preseason number 20. Houston preseason number 24. So for state of Texas, five of the top 24 teams in the nation are right now ranked. Buck will have no idea on this, but for you, I'm putting you on the hot seat here. Which of the Texas top 25 football programs I just ran through is going to have the best season this fall?

[Ken Paxton]

You know, I, I am going to guess that it looks like the rankings have Texas with Arch Manning, I guess, going to be their quarterback this year. I think they have a pretty good chance of having a really good season. I was a little more optimistic for him last last season. They didn't perform like I think we all hoped and expected, but I think Texas got a really good chance and I would never count A and M out. They always are recruiting well. They have a big reach. And any of these schools in Texas that are ranked as you know, have an opportunity to finish very well this year.

[Buck Sexton]

All right. I'm good. Do you have a strong take? He's took the words right out of your look. Marcel Reed, who went to my kids high school, awesome guy. Texas A and M coach. I love Arch Manning and his family, too. I can't wait for college football to kick off. I'm sure you're going to be campaigning at a bunch of these stadiums during the fall. Let us know how we can help because we'll be at a bunch of these games. I'm going to try to get Buck down for the some of these big games again in Texas this fall.

[Ken Paxton]

I will be likely at a college football game every Saturday, different stadiums obviously around the state, meeting people and enjoying the scene with my constituents.

[Buck Sexton]

Amen. Good luck. Let us know how we can help. And everybody out there, Ken Paxton on the ballot needs to make sure that James Crazy freak Talarico is not representing the Lone Star State come January.

[Ken Paxton]

Well, thank you for having me on. We've got a fight ahead of us, but we're going to win this. I just encourage people to every day spend five minutes telling people about this race and telling them about the real James Talarico, not the fake one that's running right now.

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[Clay Travis]

in here to Clay and Buck. So, Clay, I feel a little, a little better about the situation in Texas. Despite the polls that have come out that are making it seem very close, Ken Paxton's confident he can get it done. He does need the resources. He needs the support of the Texans who can show up and make sure that Talarico, because I'm going to tell you something, it's bigger than just one Senate seat. If you have somebody as just bizarre in so many ways and kind of effeminately left wing in so many of his positions and as James Talarico, and he is a senator from Texas, it's going to really, in a bad way energize Democrats for the 28 election. I can tell you that they really, they've wanted a Texas Senate seat for a long time and the money they're going to pour into this is going to be tremendous. And it's, you know, it's right now Republicans are can feel a little complacent, I think, Clay, I think you can feel a little bit like, oh, you know, Trump's in charge in the White House and we have a majority and we're doing pretty well. This, that can change very quickly.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I think all of that is 100% accurate. I also think this is a sign Democrats are pouring money in right now. And he is right. If you're in Texas, it's the hottest time of year. This is when you're on vacation. What really matters there is Labor Day, right, when everybody pivots from summer breaks. High school football season is underway. College football season is underway. People start paying attention. But I do think the committed cadre of left wingers is going to show up and vote for their guy or their gal. And this is where having resources matters. And that's why I was asking the question about President Trump. I believe President Trump has $500 million in his MAGA accounts right now that he could theoretically be deploying. I suspect that he is in some way also Elon Musk is going to start Spending money. All of these things I think are going to factor in in a big way. But you know, look, there are going to be a lot of handful of races out there that determine the trajectory of the government and Texas is one of them. And the Democrats cannot be allowed to win in that state, anything statewide. Lots of you listening right now need to get involved and make sure you're plugged in on everything having to go on there. I want to tell you you right now about our friends at Super sure can make a tremendous difference super sure can at saving you a bundle. You need to make sure that you have the right insurance that it's covered. They're licensed in every state for business insurance and employee benefits. They have year round support for you and your team at no additional cost. They also have a fine print facts tool. Find out how to save money. Make the best, most rational decision for you and your businesses, whether you're the CEO, the CFO, HR manager or someone involved in executive action. Super Sure.com Clay Go check it out. No cost. Super Sure.com Clay Paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency LLC, a licensed insurance agency.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Clay can describe what's soon to be 16 months old. Hearty, hefty, healthy. I think accurate adjectives, robust. Oh, blowing kisses. Now he likes to blow kisses.

[Clay Travis]

This is the blow kisses for the YouTube people.

[Ken Paxton]

Blow kisses.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh that's awesome. Ball. That's important. Yeah, yeah, that's a sign that you're a little boy you like to play with.

[Clay Travis]

We have a copy of Balls right over here and he talks about ball he likes.

[Buck Sexton]

He would probably be a big fan when he gets a little bit older of the Nashville balls franchise which is an incredible. Yeah, there you go smiling on about it. Got a great sense of humor already. We have our friends in the WNBA world as the WNBA has decided to welcome men into women's sports. James will probably enjoy our friend. Yes, Megan Kelly decided to weigh in on on this and my attempt to buy a WNBA expansion franchise for my hometown of Nashville.

[Clay Travis]

Listen, Clay Travis today of outkick and now with Fox was tweeting he wants to start a league, his own team in the league, wants to start his own team within the league and it's going to be all trans people, be all dudes posing as women. They will kick the asses of every team out there. I beg him to do it. Beg, beg.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm in.

[Clay Travis]

Like I legitimately the number one team. I think he's saying the all Stars. But the number one team in the wnba, if they will play any team of high school boys like high school All Stars, he'll pay the winner $10 million. That, that. I'm sorry, but that's what needs to happen. That kind of display that just shows how absurd this is.

[Buck Sexton]

That is fun. This is everywhere. Buck. Here is Studio 6B's Damon Roberts, cut four, talking about this as well. Play it.

[Damon Roberts]

So Cheryl Reeve is there with a trans women belong, whatever shirt she's wearing, saying that it's basically okay for men to play in women's sports. If Clay Travis, who rightly comes out today and says, okay, wnba, I want to open up a new team in Nashville and call it the Nashville Balls.

[Guest or Caller]

Right?

[Damon Roberts]

And it's going to be 100% trans team. First most inclusive team ever in the country. That's. There we go. My franchise, where is it? My team will be 100% trans. The Travis owned Nashville Balls will be the most inclusive women's men's team in NBA history. Stop discriminating against us. Where is my team?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, they want to belong, right?

[Joel Osteen Daily Podcast Host]

So

[Damon Roberts]

these coaches are okay with this now? There won't be okay with that, of course. And they'll never win a game for the obvious reasons. Because if that was ever to come to fruition, they'd lose every game. 600 to nothing.

[Buck Sexton]

Buck. One more here as we have taken over the entire talking head space. Chicks on the right. Cut 33. This is them also reacting. Play it.

[Caller or Guest]

Clay Travis first of all was like jumping all over this and he said, WNBA coach says men should be able to play in the WNBA. Finally, where's my franchise? My team will be 100% trans. The Travis owned Nashville Balls. The most inclusive women's slash men's team in WNBA history. Stop discriminating. You know who should play on that team is Brittney Griner. Yes. I mean clearly she would be the first recruit.

[Guest or Caller]

Clearly.

[Caller or Guest]

Clay went a little further and said, important announcement. I am upping my offer. $10 million for a head to head basketball game between the defending WNBA champion Las Vegas Aces and a boys high school state title team of my choice. If the Aces beat my team, I will give $10 million.

[Ken Paxton]

Yeah.

[Caller or Guest]

Remember when they did this with soccer and they played against like Megan Rapinoe and that absolute disaster. They kicked the. Out of them.

[Buck Sexton]

I will say this, Buck. Absurdity oftentimes cuts through the noise because we can sit here and say, well, the chromosomal abnormalities, the average muscle mass, like you can run through all the factual reasons. Sometimes the best way to respond to absurdity is by layering another level of absurd on it. Buck. A ton of high school boys basketball state championship teams have reached out wanting to play in this game. The WNBA Las Vegas Aces have been completely silent. That kind of tells you everything, right? The boys and their coaches are aware that they would dominate these girls and these grown women would lose to a team of boys. And so it ex, it illustrates perfectly the absurdity of trying to allow men to compete in women's sports.

[Clay Travis]

I actually think, Clay, I think the first part of your proposition for me is, is far more poignant mockery or satire, whatever, because we've already had, we mentioned the women's national soccer team playing against the U16, I think it might

[Buck Sexton]

have even been U15, uh, from only Dallas, and they crushed the, the, the women's World cup winning championship team.

[Clay Travis]

So we, we, we know that, I mean we know that a team of adolescent, of skilled adolescent athletes who are men, or you know, young men, soon to be men, whatever, would beat the best women's teams in the world in these, in these events because of strength and speed disparity. What I find so interesting about the Nashville Balls, and of course, beyond even just its fabulous mascot and the many other merch opportunities that it presents, by the way, I think we're really just scratching the surface here. As a matter of commerce, the Nashville Balls would do phenomenally well and I think it would become kind of a lifestyle brand. But the, the, the other part of this is on what basis would the wnba, given its current leadership decisions and policies, on what basis would they

[Damon Roberts]

allow

[Clay Travis]

or exclude somebody from being a self described trans player? As in, could you have Charles Barkley put on a wig and be like, yeah, I'm a woman now, let's play. You know, how could they say no? What would the. They're not going to do like testosterone testing or any of these things. So I think that you would run. What you'd run into is what is the current, first of all, what are the current regulations for whether somebody would be considered a trans player who could play in the wnba? And really, really what we need, we need a trans player in the WNBA who is completely dominant and makes a mockery of that. We just need one. The team Thing is fun. And I get why everyone's enjoying talking about that, including us. But all you need is one entirely dominant player. Because we saw this in mixed martial arts. There was a. There was a male to female mixed martial arts competitor and it was dangerous for the women.

[Buck Sexton]

It was dangerous, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

They were being extremely severely harmed and beat up in a way that was not normal for women fighting against other women. And that kind of brought an end to that. I'm somebody who doesn't enjoy women in mixed martial arts personally at all, period. I don't think women's. Women's physiology is meant for that. People can get mad at me. I don't care. They're wrong. But nonetheless, that's the only way this goes away.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, look, I think that is a certainty that it needs to happen. Here's another fun thing we're going to do Nashville Balls merchandise. In fact, I'm texting about making Nashville Balls merchandise during the course of this program. Let me hit you with this, Buck. If we brand the Nashville Balls WNBA championship, will the WNBA sue? And how amazing would that lawsuit be if I would then get to depose the WNBA commissioner about trans related issues in the sport? I'm basically just telling you that I'm going to set a legal trap for the WNBA to sue me and argue that my Nashville Balls team is not actually the WNBA champion, which will set up a series of profoundly absurd legal situations if they elect to sue over Nashville Balls WNBA champion merchandise. Here's the other thing, Buck. Let me. I think we have. Do we have Arena Sabalenka? Do we have the audio of this? The WTA, the women's. The Women's Tennis association has come out and said, hey, we're not going to allow men to compete in tennis. The ncaa, because Trump won the election and issued an executive order in the wake of Lia Thomas winning a women's title as a man tucking his penis into a women's bathing suit. Somehow I don't even know how that works. It's just a patently absurd situation. Riley Gaines has talked a lot about that. All of these women's organizations that actually want to fight against it, including the Olympics, have just come out and said, we're not going to allow men who identify as women to be able to do this. All they have to do, all they have to do in the WNBA is say the WNBA is for women. They won't say it. Here is cut five with Irina Sabalenka, who is, I believe, the number one women's tennis player in America. Courageous in the world. In the world. Sorry, yes, in the world. Also in America. Here she is getting in line behind Sophie Cunningham and saying, yes, this is the right thing to do for women's sports. Cut five.

[Caller or Guest]

The WTA recently announced that players will take a one time gender test. How do you feel about that? The first pro league to go in that direction.

[Guest or Caller]

I think it's really important to keep the fairness in our tour. And it's obvious that biologically, right, the men are way stronger than women. So I feel like it would be not really fair for the woman to, to compete against biological men. So it's, I believe it took them a little while to make this decision and I support it. But for me, I'm focusing on myself, on my goals. You know, whatever it takes. If they want to test us all, I'm happy to do that. It's pretty fair. And let's keep it that way.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, she's Russian, so she, she's not, you know, she's not subjected to the same kind of nonsense left wing wokeism on a regular basis. And also they've been, they've been blacking out the flag next to her name for years. I think they still do that. As if that's going to teach Putin a lesson. It's not her fault that her country is embroiled in a, in a very nasty war with Ukraine. She didn't start the war. But anyway, Clay, this is though, I think it's even more important for tennis to draw this line or rather more urgent because, okay, if you're going to allow men to compete against women in tennis, first of all, it's very similar to if you have a high level male college tennis player, he's going to pretty much smoke all but maybe the top 20 or 30 women in the world.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, if you would smoke them. We had this discussion. I talked to a bunch of tennis players. They said any starting male college tennis player would be Venus and Serena Williams at the apex of their ability beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, because they just, they move faster, they hit harder, all the balls have more weight behind them and, and yeah, the whole thing. But so think about this. You could be, I think the, the men's purse and the women's purse, by the way, which are equal in tennis. Now I will say women's tennis is actually unlike the wnba, a a I think an excellent spectator experience like you can re. And I think it's even better in some ways than the male experience of tennis because people can get mad at me for this too. But the serve is such a, if you're a tennis player, the serve is such a big deal in men's tennis and the points are much shorter. In women's tennis, the serve is much less of a thing. So you can appreciate the crafting of the points and, and, and you can kind of watch a little more and you can follow it a little bit better than you're not hitting 140 mile an hour, sir.

[Buck Sexton]

I would also add in Buck, I mean two out of three tennis sets is actually for most viewers way better than three out of five. Because watch a five hour, most people don' to watch a five hour tennis match.

[Clay Travis]

So women, so women's tennis having equal purse. I, that actually I have no problem with women's tennis gets great ratings and women's tennis is, is a great watch. But I just think that if you were off, if you're a guy you could make, you could show to the U.S. open and you could just beat all the women and make 3 million bucks, which is I think what the purse is. $3 million. I think, I think that somebody at some point would be like, I'm going to grow my hair long, say my name is not, you know, is not, is not Tony, it's Tanya. And I'm gonna make that 3 million bucks and laugh at everybody about it. I think you would have that problem.

[Buck Sexton]

So yeah, look, I, I, I think it 100% is necessary. I give credit to Sabalinka and others and for brave women who are speaking out. But again, all the WNBA would have to do. This ties in with the clip we played yesterday, Buck, of Caitlin Clark and you said, hey, you know, her deciding not to weigh in. She said the league should make that decision that would protect all the players and coaches from having to take the heat. This should be a commissioner based decision where the commissioner should just say, hey, biological women only, period. We're putting this to rest. We're never going to consider this any further. They won't say it. That's significant.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Joel Osteen]

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[Joel Osteen Daily Podcast Host]

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[Joel Osteen]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay and Buck. We are finishing up our number two here. We'll take a bunch of your talkbacks and discussions. Again, take this caller.

[Clay Travis]

This caller is a caller right after. Right after Clay's heart right here. This is. I think it's your twin Tommy in Minneapolis.

[Buck Sexton]

Fire away.

[Ken Paxton]

How are you doing guys?

[Buck Sexton]

We're great.

[Clay Travis]

We're good. Hey, I'll tell you, you're talking about women's sports. The best one is beach volleyball. I mean, I can't believe they even put that on tv. I feel guilty even watching it sometimes. Thank you for calling in I will

[Buck Sexton]

say Buck as a. Those ladies are very fit.

[Clay Travis]

A lot of respect for the fitness level of the beach volleyball ladies.

[Buck Sexton]

Very, very fit. They play in bikinis for those of you who may not be aware. And it's an Olympic sport. Now I will say, and I don't understand this at all, as a former teenage boy. This is me speaking as a former teenage boy here. Did you have a girls. You went to your school did not have a girls volleyball team?

[Clay Travis]

I didn't. I didn't have girls in a classroom with me until I went to college.

[Buck Sexton]

We had girls volleyball. And I don't know who came up with the idea that girls have to play volleyball in tiny spandex shorts. It doesn't make any sense to me. Like, I don't know why they couldn't play in basketball shorts, for instance, or, you know, like normal pants. I just remember thinking, this is. Whoever came up with the idea that girls basically play volleyball in bikinis even when you're, like, talking about indoor volleyball. I remember as a teenage boy being like, that person is the greatest genius in the history of mankind. And the fact that that has now moved the bikinis for beach volleyball is certainly doesn't hurt their popularity.

[Clay Travis]

There was a spandex for the women's heavyweight crew team in college, too, but I could tell you, not the same. A lot of armpit hair and Subarus. Not the same.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, we're going to take some more of your calls. We'll have fun in our number three. By the way, Buck in the prediction markets. You want some more positivity as Francesca Hong is now favored to be the nominee. The crazy. We should cancel Thanksgiving. Woman Wisconsin Republican are now favored to flip that governor's seat in the prediction markets out there. So we'll have some talk about this. Maybe there is some benefit to Democrats going crazy when it comes to sanity elsewhere. And more about the Nashville Balls, America's team final hour of the week, Tuesday

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