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No doubt, absolute wide range. And I covered a lot of ground this morning for breakfast in downtown Franklin, Tennessee, which is a Hallmark town if there's ever been a town. And I was with Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum, formerly the governor of North Dakota. And you've got governor secretary. You got so many different titles now, but we talked about a wide range of of of issues. But I want to start with this because I remember the first time we had you on was right after you injured yourself playing basketball during the 2024 presidential election cycle. You've now recovered from that. But you told me that back in 1998 you got to participate in Michael Jordan's basketball camp. That had to be an unbelievable opportunity. I want our audience to hear what that might have been like.
Colby Ekowitz
Well, first of all, Clay, great to have breakfast with you pockets in your hometown. Fantastic revival any of the great breakfast places in North Dakota. But yeah, what in a life experience to go to the Michael Jordan basketball camp, people think, oh, you're going to meet Michael Jordan. Part of the way he ran that it was 80 people over age 35. And you come and they have eight teams of 10, 16 of the top college coaches. My coaches were John Thompson and Dean Smith, my buddy from North Dakota that came to the camp with me. He had Roy Williams and Luke Olson. So we're playing for national championship coaches. I mean, there was one instance we're in a quote game and I got Dean Smith and John Thompson chatting on the sidelines with each other, not even paying attention to us guys out there on the floor. We're playing Coach K. And I was point or I called the timeout and the coach was a little upset. He's like, what do you think your coach now? And I said, he said, do you like getting yelled at? I said, well, I think it could help. We're down three in a close game, and this is the only chance I'm ever going to say I was able to play in a team that beat Coach K. But what an. What an experience.
Clay Travis
Well, Doug, it's Buck. I didn't get to have breakfast with you, but maybe you'll come down to Miami beach sometime. We can go get some ceviche or something. And I want to ask you about your portfolio as Interior Secretary, which doesn't get as much, I think, attention in the news as some of the other major agencies of the federal government. But it is a vast, a vast entity, vast organization with a lot of really important responsibilities. A lot of people think of national parks, but you've also got mining rights. I mean, you got a whole range of things. And we don't have time to go over all of it, obviously. I want you to tell me, what are your top priorities right now? I mean, I know you're working with Tyler Hassan. Funny story. Tyler and I went to school together in New York. We were little kids a long time ago. So I haven't seen him in a while, but he's a Doge guy. So there's a cleaning up, an efficiency part of this, there's a mining part of this. What are the top priorities for the Interior Secretary right now?
Colby Ekowitz
Well, it's as simple as this. I mean, we're supporting President Trump's agenda to bring peace abroad, which is, you know, end the wars against us and around the world that are be funding, they're all being funded, whether it's 24 terrorist groups being funded by Iran or the conflicts in Eastern Europe being funded by Russia's oil sales. You know, we need to be in a position with energy dominance, where we're selling energy to our friends and allies so they don't have to buy it from our adversaries so that we can fund both sides of a war. But when we do that, we also are bringing prosperity at home, because energy is not just an industry. Energy is the industry that supports every other. There's a component in the food you eat, the car you drive, the food on your table. There's an energy component. We bring energy prices down, we bring the price of everything down, we bring prosperity at home. And then you say, well, what does Interior have to do with this? Well, you know, with the vision of early leadership and then certainly expanded by Theodore Roosevelt. The United States of America. The balance sheet of the United States of America, a lot of that in Interior. 500 million acres of surface land, 700 million acres of subsurface filled with rich minerals and energy sources, and then 2.5 billion offshore. If Interior was a standalone company, it would have the largest balance sheet of anyone in the world, any company in the world. And we all hear about every election cycle, oh, this United States woe is us. We got $36.5 trillion in debt. And, yeah, we've got stop spending more each fiscal year than we bring in, start paying down the debt. But the asset side of the balance sheet could be triple what we have there. We could have $100 trillion of assets. So one of the things that we're working on is trying to actually, for the first time, build out the balance sheet of America so we can see just how wealthy we are. And then, of course, using these resources for the benefit and the use of the American people, that's what they were put away for, these public lands. And under Obama and Biden, they were going to make sure that we didn't. We didn't cut a tree, they killed the timber industry. We weren't going to do mining. We weren't going to develop our energy resources, whether it's oil or gas or coal. Now we find ourselves in this battle with China, where they're controlling 85% of the processing of rare earths and critical minerals, which we need for defense and electronics. And so this is literally when I say, you know, peace abroad, prosperity at home, interiors. Right in the mix of the fight on, on all the core principles of.
Ryan Seacrest
President Trump's agenda, we're talking to Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum. One thing that I think is so incredibly important, and some people get it, but others do not, and we were talking about it, some at breakfast, is a lot of these climate change zealots have bought into a process by which they restrict our ability to create clean oil and gas. Here I say clean relative to international standards. And instead of allowing us to produce it here, they then buy it, oftentimes from our enemies that use the money they make from our oil and gas purchases to work against American interest. And it's also produced much less refined. It's dirtier, in other words, and worse for the environment. So they think they are being morally superior, but they're actually creating a dynamic of oil and gas purchase that makes the world worse, less clean, and also gives more power to authoritarians who bear us ill will. Can you break that down a little bit more? Because I think it's so important for people to understand and as Secretary of the Interior, it's a huge part of what you do.
Colby Ekowitz
Well, that was a fantastic summary. And again, this, yeah, like most recently the Biden climate extremism. You know, they claimed they were saving the planet, but they weren't doing anything to diminish demand. They were just shifting supply. And when you shift supply away from the US to our adversaries who do not approach it with the same care. Because if you cared about the environment, you would insist that every electron of electricity, that every ounce of a liquid fuel of any form of energy was produced here in the United States because we do it cleaner, smarter, safer, healthier than anyone else on the planet. And so again, you get these bizarre things were, hey, I'm going to block a pipeline going through New York of clean natural gas from Pennsylvania going into New England. We're going to vote that down because the state of New York and we believe we're saving the planet. Meanwhile, because they do that now in the state of Maine, 80% of the homes are heated by heating oil, 41% of the homes in New Hampshire at the time of the Russian invasion of New Hampshire, we were offloading in our country 400,000 barrels a day equivalent of dirty Russian heating oil to heat homes in New England because we couldn't get clean Pennsylvania US Natural gas to them because we're going to block a pipeline. I mean, the absurdities and essentially the lie around somehow stopping energy production or transportation in America was good for the global environment or good for our environment. None of that's true. It's all false. And then it raises the price. I mean, the price of natural gas in New England in some places is triple what it is in Pennsylvania. And that's so unfair to Americans. Low priced energy is what's going to bring manufacturing back onshore. It's what's going to help us win the AI arms race against China. It's what's going to help people pay their bills and it's going to bring down even the price of groceries when we have lower energy prices. So again, we're in a battle of common sense here and we're fighting for every American because every American deserves to have access to clean, low cost, affordable, reliable energy.
Clay Travis
We're speaking to Interior Secretary Doug Burgum and Mr. Secretary. Rare Earth minerals getting a lot of attention These days, particularly because of the back and forth with China and the trade negotiations and where we get our rare earth minerals from first, how does that play into, I mean, maybe you give us a few things. Why do we need them? How does China play into this? And how do we get more rare earth minerals here, domestic sources in America?
Colby Ekowitz
Well, the. Because as I said earlier, the massive amounts of federal and public lands that we have, 700 million acres, a lot of it in the western United States that are these public lands that are rich with all kinds of minerals and whether they're minerals, critical minerals, rare earth minerals, I mean, anything, copper, silver, gold, but all the things we need, antimony, we need for ammunition. There's other things that we need just to be able to manage electronic and defense sectors. China has been well here at home with Obama, Biden declaring a war on, on mining in our country, just like they had a war on, on oil and oil and gas production. We are, you know, turning that around 180 degrees. So in addition to drill baby drill with President Trump, we've got a mine, baby mine. And to do that, we've got to be able to permit and we've got to be able to actually be able to get capital from the private sector going to work. We have literally killed the mining industry in this, in this country. And of course, China has exploited that. They now control, as I said earlier, 85% of the processed rare earth minerals that we need. It's a lever that they can use in the battles that we're at in with them right now. And so we've got to get ourselves back in this game and we've got to make sure that we're supporting that. But under President Trump, it's starting to happen. And whether that is, you know, again, coal, we need coal for two reasons. We need for producing electricity. We also need it. There's metallurgical coal in that, metallurgical coal. There are rare earth minerals that we need and there's base materials like coke, which we need for steel making in this country. We, I was, I was, you know, we had a thing called Fast 41 that we discovered it was a way to speed up projects. There have only been two mining projects ever put on there. President Trump put 10 on there last week. There's dozens more that are coming soon. Resolution copper mine, 30 year saga of trying to get a permit to start. We tackled this right after President Trump, he put out the executive orders. We have an energy emergency. We need to expedite this stuff in three months. Now we've got approvals for starting of the Resolution Copper Mine in Arizona and then again at a rare earth mining operation, there's a gold mine in California. They can also pull rare earth minerals out of that same operation. We're fast tracking all of that. So we're working around the clock to get back in the mining game because if we don't, this is a situation where again, we could end up losing our technology is better, our resources is better, everything we've got is better. But because of bureaucracy and ideology around climate, we end up losing this AI arms race to China. That would be a sad thing.
Ryan Seacrest
Last question for you. You are going to be, I believe you're going to be bringing a new park into the, into the country. And it's one that President Trump announced earlier this year down in Texas with Jocelyn Nungare and her family. What can you tell us about what you're doing there?
Colby Ekowitz
Well, we're heading, we'll be there tomorrow. And this is a existing U.S. fish and Wildlife refuge that had a, is being rename honor of Jocelyn Nungare. And of course, unfortunately, America knows her story. 12 year old, beautiful young woman who was tragically and horribly murdered and killed by illegal immigrants. President Trump acknowledged her mother and her sister, they were present in the House chambers when he was giving his joint address to the two chambers this year. Touching moment for sure. Any of us that are parents, hard to, hard to think about what it would be like to lose your 12 year old daughter for any reason, but for those reasons in particular. But she loved wildlife and loved the outdoors and President Trump wants to make sure that she's remembered forever. And so we're renaming this US Fish and Wildlife Refuge. We changed the name on the electronic maps the day after he gave that beautiful speech that he delivered to the whole country. But we'll be there tomorrow with the family. Many extended family members. Could be more than 20 people from the Nungare family there, including Jocelyn's mother and sister and others. And we'll be there in person. And we're going through the physical renaming of all the signage around the park and we'll be there. And I'm sure that's going to be a touching moment for all involved. But again, it's just something that's so genuine of President Trump who, who generally cares about the people in our country. And that's why he's fighting so hard every day to make sure that we've got safe and secure borders and that we've, you know, bring peace to the.
Clay Travis
World Secretary of the Interior Doug Bergam. Appreciate you being with us sir. Thank you so much.
Colby Ekowitz
Well, great to be with both of you and look forward to be back on and thank you both for all you do and helping helping inspire America to be to be reach our fullest potential whether it's the parents or as a country. So thanks for all you do gentlemen.
Ryan Seacrest
Thank you.
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Clay Travis
American teenager has less testosterone than a.
Ryan Seacrest
60 year old man.
Colby Ekowitz
That's right.
Ryan Seacrest
Because the testosterone levels have dropped 50% from historic levels. And you know, and that is a.
Colby Ekowitz
Problem, and it's an existential problem, but.
Ryan Seacrest
It'S only, that is only when we have obesity that is off the charts. Okay, so this is a part of this gender universe that we have created where men are supposed to be more like women and women are supposed to be more like men and eventually, oh, we can't even tell genders just up. It's not a real thing. This should be. Am I crazy on this, buck? Are you with me as well? Shouldn't everyone want to know what is occurring such that male testosterone rates are collapsing, that when it comes to basic biology, sperm. This is true. The amount of functional sperm that the average man produces is collapsing as well. So shouldn't this be kind of a calamitous thing that we should be looking at and talking about and asking what's going on? What are the products that we're consuming? How has this occurred? I think it's quite clearly not a good thing.
Clay Travis
Well, yeah, and there, there are a few things that right away jump out. First of all, for men, testosterone level is a pretty good indicator of overall health. Now that doesn't mean that if you, you know, have a higher than average testosterone level, you're in great health. It doesn't, but, but it's a, it's a pretty good indicator. And I'll be honest with you, as I've looked at, you know, my blood and my fitness journey over the last six months or so to kind of get back in shape, one thing I definitely had to look at was T levels. And what you find is mine had dropped much more in the last few years, much more rapidly than they had previously. I don't know why. And I've been able to address that by supplementation, exercise, diet changes, focus on protein. You know, now I was, I was, was in the, within the range of, of like normal. But I wanted to get to sort of, you know, the upper end of it because I thought it would feel, it would feel better. The big issue that a lot of people have is I'm talking about men. Now women have testosterone too. They obviously have far less of it. And even like guys on MSNBC have testosterone, they just have even less than women.
Ryan Seacrest
But you make it a joke. But remember the NPR guys got tested and they were basically off the charts. The, the men at NPR had testosterone levels that were almost, they had the testosterone levels non existent.
Clay Travis
NPR NPR guys in their 30s had testosterone levels of like 12 year old girls. It was Crazy. I, it was really remarkable. I mean, they, I, I don't even know what to say other than it was, you know, these guys had like, one of them was in the 1002, which is actually a clinically, I mean, medically deficient level like that, that needs. It's a medical condition. If you're, if you're a guy and you have a very low level of testosterone, you need to get that addressed. You, it affects you in very real ways. You're. But people are asking why this is like, arf. Could you just bring this up now? There's a lot of stuff people say like microplastics and you get into some of this stuff where it's just like everything, everything is making you unhealthy. Every. Oh, it's the water you're drinking, it's the air you're breathing. It's everything. No, no, no. Start with the basics. We are too fat. We are too sedentary. We, we are eating too many processed foods. And that for men is a huge problem for testosterone and for fertility and for creating enough sperm. But this has become a societal issue now. I mean, this is actually, it's not just something that, you know, you, you read about in Men's Health magazine. We have people. It affects your psychology. If you're a man with deficient testosterone, it affects your ability to obviously have children when you look at the sperm count. And this needs to be addressed. And RFK Jr wants to make this a thing, but you know, everybody, it's amazing. I even talked to friends of mine, Clay guys in their third, you know, late 30s, early 40s. I'm like, well, what is your testosterone level? They have no idea.
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah, most people have no idea. Most people. I mean, I think this is one of those things where men in general don't talk very much about health. And so we're like totally imbeciles on much of male health related issues, whereas I think in general women are more aware. This is. Look, this is why men, one of many reasons why men live about five years shorter than women. We have severe health related issues and we don't go to doctors as much and we don't get things fixed. But yeah, I think I was actually having this conversation with my wife the other day. It feels to me often buck, and this is me kind of getting on a soapbox here for a minute, but it feels like we spend lots of time on things that aren't very dangerous and very little time on things that are incredibly dangerous. Let me give you an example. I Had a friend recently who just dropped dead at 45 years old. And it turns out that he had, I think, a major heart related condition, based on what I have been told. And it seems to me, and some of you out there may be brilliant enough to do this. Heart disease is, I believe I'm correct, Buck, the number one killer of men, by far right. And it kills a lot of women.
Clay Travis
Cancer is number two. Heart disease, number one.
Ryan Seacrest
Heart disease, number one. But how often do you hear of someone who otherwise appears to be healthy and then they have a massive heart attack and they just die? Shouldn't we have. Instead of everybody having to get a colon examination, which everybody does, and I'm not necessarily knocking that from a health perspective, when you get to be like 45 years old, shouldn't you be having a really detailed electrocardiogram of your heart to find out whether you have stoppages and blockages that could lead to a catastrophic heart attack? Because we know that this is killing whatever it is, millions of people, probably a year on average, hundreds of thousands for sure. And yet, yet most men out there listening to us right now, including me, have no idea how healthy our hearts are. Shouldn't we be working to try to have regular just, hey, if I can get in an MRI and, and if I think I've got a torn acl, if I can go get an MRI machine and they can look at my knee. Why would we not have heart health as a standard part of American health care to try to avoid having anywhere near as many heart attacks? Am I crazy on this? In other words, let's address things that are actually creating huge issues and, and put our resources there instead of, I mean, I don't know what we're still spending on Covid, but we spent way more on Covid than I bet we have ever on American heart disease. And heart disease is going to continue to kill us for, for decades this way. And I'm saying it as a sort of male health thing, but I, when I watched that Jesse Waters clip that you shared last night, there's just so much that we don't know the answer to that it feels like it's very basic that we should be addressing purely from a fi. A science perspective to find out why it's happening. Because we know testosterone is the engine that drives men. If we have low testosterone levels, men are not healthy. And that's happening. And it's like nobody's asking questions about it, right?
Clay Travis
Well, like I said, it's, it's part of the overall health decline that has gone on. But you would think that as we become more technologically advanced, which we are, and as we have more medical interventions and medical tools possible, which we have, that people would. That you would see these increased health outcomes. The problems is we now, you know, for basically all of human history, Clay, we were worried about. We were worried about scarcity, and there were diseases of scarcity. You know, not enough vitamin C, you get scurvy, not enough food, you starve to death. Not enough. You know, you go down the list, all these different things, you know, not enough iron, you're anemic, not enough. Now we have diseases of overabundance. That's actually how successful our society, America specifically western developed world countries have become. That you can eat hyper delicious food all the time, you can work without moving very much. I mean, you can earn a living without. As I sit here, this is one of the reasons why Clay and I get up during our radio breaks and walk around a little bit. It's really. It's important because we do three hours and then we do podcasts and other things. I used to. I have some days, Clay, when I was in the radio studio, I would be. I wouldn't really move for like six hours. Yeah, that is terrible. It's like being on a plane for six hours is terrible for you. You don't want to do that every day. Doing it every day is really bad for you. But I feel like people there. There's so, you know, you had this sort of whole, like, fat positivity thing that was coming on, coming along for a while, which is, I think is dying down now. You just want to be accountable. You want to be. You know, I think about this people like, why Buck? Why do you want to get healthy? One, because some of you told me I look like Mrs. Doubtfire and you were kind of telling me the truth, and that hurt. But it was important.
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Clay Travis
2, which was funny but mean. Funny but mean. 2. I have a son coming along, and I want to be able to take my son out and be the athletic guy that I had been my whole life and not, you know, not be getting injured and not be getting slowed down. It's not about being perfect. It's not about all these people. Don't even get me started on all the people you see on the. On Instagram and everything else. If they're holding themselves up as a model of fitness, the chance as a man or a woman that they're taking things they're not telling you about is like 95% just so you know, to include steroids or exogenous testosterone that they're not telling you about, but they just want you to believe that they have some program that's going to fix everything for you. It's about being your best, healthiest, strongest self. Which also means the most testosterone you can have at your age as a guy. As a guy, and the most, you know, hormonal balance you could achieve as a man or a woman so that you have optimal health. And RFK is, is right on the money with this stuff.
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To your point, obesity used to be a sign of extreme wealth. Now it's actually a sign, by and large of poverty. Which is interesting. That shift, right. Used to be the royals who would have enough food to eat when everybody else was starving. Now eating unhealthy and putting on weight is oftentimes a sign of lack of wealth. And on your walking thing, as we get ready for break here, I have thrown the I heart tech team into absolute fear on a level that I'm not sure I've ever seen before because I said I don't. In my new house, I don't want to have a walking, you know, stand up desk. Right. Some people write books, they stand up, they want to be up more. I said, you know, this, I want to have a treadmill so that I can do this show while walking for all three hours. And they are just. The tech on this has thrown them into an absolute like whirlwind. But to your point, we sit in a chair for three hours. I would prefer just to be slowly walking for three hours while we do the show. I don't know how the tech's gonna work. But right now the I heart engineers are just terrified about what the impact of this is gonna be. So stay tuned.
Clay Travis
I will talk about this stuff all day. Not as somebody who's an expert, but as somebody who's been through the war, so to speak, of health. As a non expert recently, and I feel very passionately about it because there's so much misinformation, bad information and stuff out there. And people create. There's all kinds of unrealistic expectations. Health is in each of our individual hands. And I think that RFK Jr can do a lot to help guide to the degree it's possible with whatever, you know, whatever tools are at his disposal. Guide people toward optimizing their health. And for the guys out there, yeah, you don't want to have the testosterone level of your average NPR host. You just don't. As a guy, it's Not, I mean, it's truly not good for you. It's not just that you're going to be a wimp who's going to hide behind your wife in the bar when some guy says something mean. It's bad for your heart, health, it's bad for everything. So this stuff is real. It's serious. You know, my brother and I were at the range last weekend. I was talking to Missito Mace. I've got this great new sponsor, uscca. I think I can probably, you know, get you a discount on a, you know, use my code, get you a discount on your own USCCA membership. You know, he told me, I've been a member for three years. Buck, welcome to the party, pal. I was like, whoa, okay, Mason. Mason is very knowledgeable about firearms and he's very knowledgeable about making sure that you're covered if you're going to conceal carry if you're going to be a gun owner, period. That's why he's had USCCA for years. I've now joined him and 860,000 other responsible gun owners who are USCCA members. In today's world, you can do everything right and still end up charged, still end up facing financial ruination because you lawfully defended yourself. That is the reality. Self defense becomes your highest priority and suddenly becomes very vitally important to you when it happens. But you don't want to wait until it happens. You want to be prepared. You want to be covered. Become a member of uscca. You'll get self defense liability insurance the moment you sign up. Tens of millions of dollars in legal fees have been covered for USCCA members who have acted in self defense. Every member gets 24, seven critical response team and attorney network access in the event of a self defense incident. 100% satisfaction guaranteed. Your membership is backed by the USCCA 30 day 100% money back bulletproof guarantee. Go to uscca.com buck to download the free concealed carry and family defense guide. That's uscca.com buck download that free concealed carry and family defense guide Today.
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Yeah, I just wanted to mention that the reason that men's testosterone is so low is because like Buck said, we are becoming increasingly fat. Men are fat is estrogen dominant and the estrogen out competes the testosterone. Therefore that's why men's levels have gotten so low is because we are becoming so fat.
Clay Travis
That is true. That is biochemically accurate and something that I've learned and been a student of myself in this last year. Pete, thank you so much for calling in. Daryl in West Bend, Wisconsin. Real quick, Darrell, we got 30 seconds or so. Go ahead.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Episode Summary
Title: Hour 2 - Interior Secretary Doug Burgum
Release Date: April 23, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
Introduction
In the April 23, 2025 episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton engage in a compelling conversation with Interior Secretary Doug Burgum. The discussion delves into the multifaceted responsibilities of the Department of the Interior, emphasizing energy dominance, domestic resource management, and national security concerns related to rare earth minerals.
1. Doug Burgum’s Background and Personal Anecdote
The episode kicks off with a light-hearted exchange where Clay Travis recalls a personal story from Doug Burgum’s past. At [04:21], Burgum shares his experience attending Michael Jordan's basketball camp in 1998, highlighting memorable interactions with top college coaches like Dean Smith and John Thompson. This anecdote not only humanizes Burgum but also sets the stage for a deeper discussion on his leadership style and strategic thinking.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “It was the only chance I ever got to say I was able to play in a team that beat Coach K. But what an experience.” [05:31]
2. Department of the Interior’s Vast Portfolio
Clay Travis steers the conversation towards the often underappreciated role of the Department of the Interior. At [05:31], Burgum outlines the extensive assets under the department’s control, including 500 million acres of surface land, 700 million acres of subsurface minerals, and 2.5 billion offshore acres. He emphasizes the department’s potential to significantly bolster the United States' economic and strategic position.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “If Interior was a standalone company, it would have the largest balance sheet of anyone in the world.” [06:26]
3. Supporting President Trump’s Agenda: Peace Abroad and Energy Dominance
A substantial portion of the discussion focuses on aligning the Department of the Interior’s initiatives with President Trump's broader agenda. Burgum highlights efforts to end funding to adversarial groups through controlled energy exports, thereby promoting both international peace and domestic prosperity.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “We’re supporting President Trump's agenda to bring peace abroad and prosperity at home by achieving energy dominance.” [06:26]
4. Energy Production and Environmental Policies
Burgum critically examines the impact of previous administrations on energy production and environmental regulations. He argues that policies under Obama and Biden hindered domestic oil, gas, and mining industries, inadvertently strengthening adversarial nations like China, which now controls 85% of rare earth mineral processing.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “Under Obama and Biden, we weren’t going to develop our energy resources, whether it’s oil or gas or coal. Now we’re in a battle with China controlling 85% of rare earth minerals.” [08:53]
5. Rare Earth Minerals and National Security
Addressing the critical issue of rare earth minerals, Burgum elaborates on the strategic necessity of reducing dependence on China. He outlines the department’s initiatives to revive domestic mining operations through expedited permitting processes, citing examples like the Resolution Copper Mine in Arizona and new rare earth projects in California.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “We have to get back in this game and ensure we’re supporting that to avoid losing our technology and resources in the AI arms race against China.” [12:15]
6. Current Projects and Fast-Tracking Permits
Burgum details specific projects aimed at revitalizing the mining industry. He mentions the introduction of Fast 41, a strategy to accelerate mining project approvals, resulting in the green-lighting of projects like Resolution Copper Mine and new gold and rare earth mining operations.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “President Trump put out the executive orders declaring an energy emergency, and we ended up fast-tracking ten projects last week alone.” [15:37]
7. Renaming Wildlife Refuge in Honor of Jocelyn Nungare
In a poignant segment, Burgum discusses the renaming of a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Refuge to honor Jocelyn Nungare, a 12-year-old who tragically lost her life. This act underscores the department’s commitment to honoring victims and supporting affected families, aligning with President Trump’s focus on securing borders and ensuring public safety.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “We’re renaming the refuge to honor Jocelyn Nungare, ensuring she’s remembered forever.” [15:58]
Conclusion
The interview with Doug Burgum provides a comprehensive overview of the Department of the Interior’s pivotal role in shaping the United States' energy and mineral policies. Burgum’s insights reveal a strategic approach to leveraging domestic resources for both economic growth and national security. His emphasis on reducing dependency on adversarial nations and revitalizing domestic industries aligns with broader political agendas aimed at fostering prosperity and maintaining global competitiveness.
Notable Quote:
Doug Burgum: “We are fighting for every American because every American deserves access to clean, low-cost, and reliable energy.” [12:15]
Closing Remarks
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton wrap up the segment by appreciating Doug Burgum’s contributions and highlighting the significance of his role in advancing America’s strategic interests. The discussion not only sheds light on the intricacies of the Department of the Interior but also underscores the importance of informed leadership in addressing contemporary challenges.
Key Takeaways:
Notable Quotes Recap:
This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the conversation between Clay Travis, Buck Sexton, and Interior Secretary Doug Burgum, highlighting the key discussions, insights, and strategic initiatives aimed at bolstering America’s energy independence and national security.