Hour 2 - Invite Us on The View!

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 – Invite Us on The View!

Date: October 15, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This episode finds Clay Travis and Buck Sexton in top form, blending sharp political discourse with playful humor. Their main threads include discussing the Supreme Court’s review of racial gerrymandering, critiquing Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson’s legal reasoning, and challenging The View’s claim that Republicans are “afraid” to appear as guests. They round things out by skewering the far-left’s stances on transgender sports participation and sharing some listener reactions to the show’s lighter moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Supreme Court Arguments on Racial Gerrymandering

Clay Travis breaks down the Supreme Court’s deliberation over racial gerrymandering, going deep on the legal history and why he believes legacy civil rights era laws have outlived their necessity.

• Historical Context:
  Black voters faced real suppression pre-Civil Rights era, leading to laws that compensated for discrimination (04:00–05:30).

• Current Legal Tensions:
  Laws that once promoted fairness now, according to Clay, risk perpetuating racial entitlements and violate the principle of equal protection.

  • “Those precedents are actually extremely racist because they are predicated on the idea that black voters…vote a certain way and that is starting to crumble.” — Clay Travis (06:20)

• Supreme Court Quote:

  • “The way to stop discriminating based on race is by stopping to discriminate based on race.” — Attributed to Chief Justice John Roberts, affirmed by Clay and Buck (08:55, 17:43).

• Clay's Assessment:
  The case marks the end of race-based gerrymandering:

  • “The problem … is fixed. It no longer exists, and so the precedent that made sense in 1965 doesn’t make sense in 2025.” — Clay Travis (14:00)

2. Criticism of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson

• Jackson’s Analogy:
  Justice Jackson compares black voters’ experiences to disabled people under the ADA (07:59):

  “Congress said the facilities have to be made equally open to people with disabilities if readily possible. I guess I don't understand why that's not what's happening here...we are responding to current day manifestations of past and present decisions that disadvantage minorities..." — Ketanji Brown Jackson (07:59)

• Clay’s Response:
  Clay is highly critical, calling it a "strained and poor analogy":

  • “She is the quintessential DEI candidate…she is frankly, I’m not sure, qualified in any way to be a Supreme Court Justice.” — Clay Travis (09:20)
  • “Ketanji Brown Jackson is not in the top half of intelligent lawyers in America.” (09:35)

• Comparisons to Other Justices:
  Both hosts contrast Jackson with Justice Kagan and the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg, whom they describe as formidable thinkers despite ideological differences (11:08).

3. Simplicity of Equal Protection

Buck distills the legal debate:

“We just need to live in a country where we don’t have racial set asides and entitlements for anybody at all. Period. Full stop.” — Buck Sexton (12:03)

4. Demographic Shifts in Voter Behavior

Clay highlights the waning monolithic black support for Democrats:

• “Donald Trump got 21% of black men of their vote in 2024…It’s growing.” (14:28)
• Argues gerrymandering laws now rely on outdated voting patterns.

5. The “Disparate Impact” Debate

Buck frames the problem with using disparate impact as a legal standard:

• “If the law is universally applicable…the outcome...does not matter to me…” (16:18)
• Uses homicide law as an example: “Just because more men are impacted by homicide laws doesn’t mean it’s sexist.” — Buck Sexton (17:07)

6. Lighthearted Banter & Listener Engagement

• Choking on Sausage:
  Jokes with a caller about sausage being a choking risk (24:22–25:04)
  • “Sausage is a choking risk…you gotta be very careful.” — Buck Sexton (24:37)
  • Listener Pamela writes: “I’m in an IHOP in Pensacola…almost spit out my coffee with your remark about the danger women may be in.” (26:05)

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Notable Segment: Clay and Buck Challenge “The View”

Joy Behar’s Assertion

• Behar (The View):
  “Republicans won’t come on the show, they’re afraid of us.” (28:13)

Reality Check: The Invitation

• Behind the Scenes:
  Producer Ali sent a pitch to The View in July, offering Clay and Buck as guests.
  • “They only had two more episodes to shoot…schedule was full…but they'd be back in the fall. I followed up today and I'm waiting to hear back.” — Producer Ali (28:39)
• Clay & Buck’s Response:
  “I don’t think Buck and I are afraid of powerful women — challenge accepted!” — Clay Travis (28:30)
  • Buck: “There is no reason why they could not have a Clay and Buckathon on The View...based on the established parameters...” (29:13)
  • Clay jokes about gifting a MAGA hat to Alyssa Farah Griffin if invited (29:53).

Discussion on Show Booking Dynamics

• They clarify most guest requests are handled by producers, so Joy Behar may not realize how many right-leaning figures genuinely want to join the show (30:55).

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Progressive Logic and Gender in Sports

Piers Morgan vs. California Dem Candidate (33:18–34:32, 45:48–46:41)

• Trans Sports Debate:
  Piers pushes a Democratic candidate on whether men and women should compete together in the Olympics.
  • Candidate wavers but says, “I think it's a conversation worth having…”
  • Piers: “Are you suggesting that women could compete against [men] like in 100 meters...Do you?” (45:57)
  • Candidate: “I’m not a sports expert of course…” then pivots to talk of “misinformation about transgender athletes.”
• Clay’s Commentary:
  “These people are crazy, Buck, and I don’t know how they get off this crazy train.” (34:05, 34:32)
  • Offers comparisons: Texas high school boys outperform Olympian Flo Jo, illustrating the obvious differences in male vs. female athletic performance (38:39).

Legal Angle:

• Buck: Details pending Supreme Court litigation on transgender athletes (35:00–36:22).
• Clay: Trans activists fear a definitive SCOTUS ruling, preferring to leave favorable lower court decisions standing (36:22–37:42).

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• Clay Travis:

  • “Those precedents are actually extremely racist because they are predicated on the idea that black voters…vote a certain way and that is starting to crumble.” (06:20)
  • “She is the quintessential DEI candidate…she is frankly, I’m not sure, qualified in any way to be a Supreme Court Justice.” (09:20)
  • “The problem is fixed. It no longer exists, and so the precedent that made sense in 1965 doesn’t make sense in 2025.” (14:00)
  • “These people are crazy, Buck, and I don’t know how they get off this crazy train.” (34:05)

• Buck Sexton:

  • “We just need to live in a country where we don’t have racial set asides and entitlements for anybody at all. Period. Full stop.” (12:03)
  • “If the law is universally applicable…the outcome...does not matter to me…” (16:18)

• John Roberts (as paraphrased by hosts):

  • “The way to stop discriminating based on race is by stopping to discriminate based on race.” (17:43)

• Listener Pamela (via show readout):

  • “I’m in an IHOP in Pensacola…almost spit out my coffee with your remark about the danger women may be in.” (26:05)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Supreme Court, Racial Gerrymandering & Voting Rights: 03:47–17:43
• Buck’s Legal Philosophy on Equal Protection: 12:03–14:00
• Listener Call on Choking / Humor: 24:22–25:04
• Clay & Buck’s challenge to The View's “afraid” claim: 28:00–31:00
• Transgender Sports & Piers Morgan Segment: 33:18–34:32, 45:48–46:41

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Tone & Engagement

The tone is witty, feisty, and occasionally irreverent. Clay and Buck balance legal and political deep dives with relatable analogies and regular listener shoutouts, giving the show both edge and accessibility.

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Conclusion

This hour offers a full spectrum of the Clay & Buck style: serious constitutional analysis, inside radio back-and-forth, battles with liberal narratives, and a constant readiness to call out media double standards. Whether dissecting complex court cases or sparring with cultural norms on The View or in sports, the duo keeps the conversation unfiltered, thought-provoking, and entertaining.

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[Clay Travis]

In clay travis buck sexton show all right you want some spice i'm gonna give you some spice right out of the break here we're gonna have some fun with the view but i had them i was trying to pay attention to the supreme court argument on racial gerrymandering that is happening today because i think it has the potential to be incredibly consequential and transformative to the political process in the country and let me give you a one minute take on exactly what is at stake historically black voters were suppressed from the polls prior to the civil rights movement in the south that is not a historical fallacy that is in fact historical truth as a result there was an entire line of jurisprudence dealing with voting rights that were trying to rectify the wrong of majority black voters in the south who were being restricted in many ways from poll access therefore they did not have a substantial say in the democrat process in many southern states that was wrong that was before buck and i were born a long time before buck was born quite some time before i was born since he is much younger than me but but so that process unfortunately now has polluted the court rulings of the supreme court because we no longer even though democrats would like it to be the case live in a world that is like nineteen sixty five or nineteen fifty eight or nineteen forty eight or whatever year you want to go to in the south when black voters did not have the ability to get to the polls and vote for their preferred candidates so they put in place this review of the voting process through the civil rights laws now what you are seeing is that those precedents are actually extremely racist because they are predicated on the idea that black voters sort of monolithically and uniformly vote a certain way and that is starting to crumble and it also creates the civil rights era court decisions create tension with the equal protection clause that tries to treat everyone equally and does not allow race to be determined as a factor so we have talked about this quite a lot already in the court system as it pertains to affirmative action which the courts have ruled was i correct that john roberts is the one who said the way to stop discriminating based on race is by stopping to discriminate based on race do we get a fact check on that i believe i'm correct so we have seen in the world of colleges and universities the idea of your race as a dispositive factor when it comes to your admission is not actually permissible under our constitution and so there are still lots of ways that colleges and universities are trying to trick their way through that process but it is not permissible to strictly have quotas racial analysis all of that okay with that as a background they now today are hearing an argument about that tension between the civil rights era precedence where race is allowed to be a predominant factor in the in the gerrymandering of congressional districts and that tension with the equal equal rights component equal protection clause of of of our amendments in the post civil war era they get to the sixteenth amendment i've been a while since i passed the bar how do you reconcile that i think the supreme court is going to say racial gerrymandering is no longer allowed i think it is the right decision i think it is the appropriate decision people on the left are up in arms about this you're going to hear a lot about it and ketanji brown jackson demonstrated and the futility of that argument by making that argument i had them pull it to try to argue in favor of racism to combat racism here's what she.

[Legal Analyst/Guest]

Said a kind of paradigmatic example of this is something like the ada congress passed the americans with disabilities act against the backdrop of a world that was generally not accessible to people with disabilities and so it was discriminatory in a sense because these folks were not able to access these buildings and it didn't matter whether the person who built the building or the person who owned the building intended for them to be exclusionary that's irrelevant congress said the facilities have to be made equally open to people with disabilities if readily possible i guess i don't understand why that's not what's happening here the idea in section two is that we are responding to current day manifestations of past and present decisions that disadvantage minorities and make it so that they don't have equal access to the voting system right they're disabled okay.

[Clay Travis]

So what she analogized there and i understand we're going into the weeds a little bit is she saying black voters are the equivalent of disabled people in that they have to be constantly considered because they are unable to vote as others would be able to vote just as disabled people are unable to access now this is an incredibly strained and poor analogy by her and i think it's actually evidence that she is frankly i'm not sure qualified in any way to be a supreme court justice i don't think that katanji brown jackson yeah i don't think katanji brown jackson is in the top half of intelligent lawyers in america and this is what happens when you say i'm only going to pick someone based on their race and gender which is what joe biden did with her and then i don't think he picked the smartest black woman who is a lawyer in america to be his representative of black women but in so doing he excluded ninety five percent of americans in fact i would argue that the way that joe biden selected ketanji brown jackson actually violates all of the precepts of the constitution that she now is trying to argue should be continued to be in effect in other words she is the quintessential dei candidate and she much like sotomayor i think regularly when they ask questions evinces a very poor comprehension of the law that is not in any way a strong left wing tenant there are lots of people kagan buck kagan's really smart i don't agree with everything that most of what elena kagan says in her opinions but she is of the left and she is a very smart person of the left i do not think sotomayor and ketanji brown jackson are even eloquent advocates of the positions the left would like to put out there and this i think is evidence of that with her line of questioning well yeah i.

[Buck Sexton]

Mean ruth bader ginsburg i disagreed with strenuously on a whole range of things but she understood the arguments she knew what the arguments of both sides were i just don't agree with her analysis and you know without getting into the specifics i think catanji brown jackson doesn't even understand the argument on the side honestly that's my just listening to her talk about these things she doesn't get it but you know on the one hand this is one of these it's very complicated it's vra section two it's.

[Clay Travis]

History and i understand people's eyes roll back into their head yes it's very.

[Buck Sexton]

Complicated comma but actually very simple right there's the you're doing the the complicated legal analysis side of this clay gets excited about the law stuff it's like we're back in law school professors walking around he says travis mister travis did you do the reading last night and you know clay's doing his thing you always did the reading clay we know.

[Clay Travis]

You i did i love i love.

[Buck Sexton]

Reading assignments yeah so so there's that part of it but then there's this part of it we just need to live in a country where we don't have racial set asides and entitlements for anybody at all period full stop and if there was ever a time where we had to make those arguments because of previous discrimination or rather we made those concessions because we thought it would make things better now we've reached a point where everybody should understand that that was a effectively a temporary emergency measure and should no longer be the case we should not have racial entitlements masquerading as civil rights protections and that is what this is if a state is allowed if the people in a state are allowed to redistrict however they see fit really because it's left to the states here's the problem it's almost like drawing the borders of a country yeah what justifies the borders of a country you know it's a complicated thing but really it's lines on a map then they fight over it and whatever but there's not some more like the border between the us and canada is not a moral question it's a political question and it's one that we have solved with our northern neighbors the borders of congressional districts in various states are left to the processes and the legislatures in those states and and everybody should just be playing by the same rules within that state there shouldn't be a oh we don't have enough black majority districts in this state so therefore this map is unfair because it is an equal protection clause violation because a lot of republicans sit there and say hold on a second my vote has been nullified effectively by the state legislature so why isn't it why is that okay but overwhelmingly democrat black voters in a lot of these states get to have a special protection no i'm sorry we either all live by the same rules or we don't the complex distilled down to the simple i rest my case counselor.

[Clay Travis]

I think you're right and i think that's where we're headed let me add on a couple of layers here that are hopefully not super legal nerd esque the problem here was one that should and needed to be redressed right the problem is the problem is fixed it no longer exists and so the precedent that made sense in nineteen sixty five doesn't make sense in twenty twenty five i would also point this out it is predicated on the idea that black voters are monolithic in the way that they vote that is increasingly not the case this is why i think it's significant that donald trump got twenty one percent of black men of their vote in twenty twenty four one in five black guys said trump's my guy a lot of black guys are listening to us right now that are a part of that team and it's growing and there are more some of you guys out there you used to never be able to find another black republican now one in five i bet you're finding a lot more people that are open to your arguments black women too this has been applied buck for hispanic voters hispanic voters are basically now fifty fifty they're much more similar to white voters or asian voters where you don't have a strong sense of how somebody's gonna vote based on their race and gender if you see a white guy now but somebody see a white chick wearing the rachel maddow specs you probably got a pretty good chance hey that's a lib uh but by and large you see a white person they could be conservative they could be liberal they could be who knows they don't care about politics at all same thing is increasingly becoming true of hispanic voters as you know because you live in miami buck there's also a huge difference between a cuban voter and a recent immigrant from mexico or venezuela or the hispanic voting bloc is actually very diverse depending on where that hispanic voter is from the monolithic nature of black support for the democrat party is crumbling in times like these they trot out someone like ketanji brown jackson to argue that not based on the law but oh my goodness based on the result of this case it would be harmful politically to democrats and that is why she is a political actor more than she is a judge and that is unfortunate one of.

[Buck Sexton]

The arguments we make here this goes to disparate impact which is i think a inherently incorrect legal philosophy of well if the end result isn't the same among arbitrary distinctions that we're going to make between people then there's something wrong with that law if the law is universally applicable and everybody has to live under it the outcome of that law does and then the law is ethical and moral the outcome of that law does not matter to me meaning and this is where we get into there is a disparate impact i know you love this argument been saying this for a long time clay there's a disparate impact between men and women and homicides that doesn't mean that homicide laws are bad it just means that more men kill people and that doesn't mean sexist.

[Clay Travis]

In particular right it doesn't mean that men are being targeted by homicide laws because men happen to be impacted by.

[Buck Sexton]

Them more so the fact of the matter is if we're going to have a society where we don't have racial entitlements we have to remove racial entitlements including holdovers from the civil rights era like section two of the voting rights act and clay you were correct it was john roberts for the win on to stop discriminating by race stop discriminating by race it's pretty good i alito is my favorite so i thought it was going to be an alito move but it was actually roberts so good.

[Clay Travis]

On you probably the best sentence of john roberts career the way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race i don't understand how that same logic does not govern when it comes to analyzing racial gerrymandering and i hope john roberts will apply the same principle in this case as he did in the in the decision having to do basically with whether or not there can be affirmative action in schools so that is going to be a huge decision maybe some of you are trying to face a huge decision what do you do for the holiday season i know i just said the holiday season and some of you are having alarm bells go off and you know it's basically two months till christmas two months until christmas what are you going to do for christmas how about the dads and the granddads out there how many of you are actually great gift givers i am not i am not a good gift giver i don't enjoy shopping period and i particularly don't try to enjoy shopping for so many other gifts but you know what's a great gift that doesn't require you to shop at all it just requires you to listen to this show and pull out your phones right now legacy box you can preserve your family's history in time for the holidays you can blow everybody away by being the thoughtful family member who ensures that your great aunt's old timey photos are digitized that grandma and grandpa's vhs tapes are digitized that the old slides the old eight millimeter reels whatever family history you have legacy box is all about taking it and making sure it's preserved for generations to come i visited their chattanooga factory they've got an incredible business you send in your old photos your old vhs tapes your old eight millimeters whatever family memories you have they will digitize them and allow you to be able to share it with everyone that photo from nineteen twenty that vhs tape of christmas nineteen eighty eight that eight millimeter film of grandma and grandpa going on their honeymoon all of it can be preserved digitally forever and right now you get fifty percent off at legacybox dot com clay that's legacybox dot com clay to save fifty percent you're going to love having your recorded memories preserved forever digitally easy to share with the grandkids the great grandkids so everybody knows the family history stories golegacybox dot com clay fifty percent off that's a legacybox dot com clay you don't know.

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[Clay Travis]

Related.

[Buck Sexton]

Look at him bringing it all together there okay mister josh okay this is impressive yeah you know i will.

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Tell you something for polish sausages you of all people have to be concerned about choking well i was going to.

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Safe welcome back in clay travis bu sexton show appreciate all of you and there's a lot of reactions pouring in pamela just said i'm in an ihop in pensacola having breakfast almost spit out my coffee with your remark about the danger women may be in thank goodness i was only drinking coffee not eating the sausage you have only yourself to blame buckster so appreciate pamela i'm glad that she is still alive and there.

[Buck Sexton]

Are.

[Clay Travis]

There are a lot of reactions rolling in and we are having a great deal of fun just trying to.

[Buck Sexton]

Tell everybody take your time chew your.

[Clay Travis]

Food it's very straightforward okay let's go the the view this is fun okay so those of you who follow us on social media as you all should be doing you can find us at youtube you can find us at twitter instagram tiktok i don't think there's a social media platform we're not on know that we have had a lot of fun with the view over the years and we just shared from producer ali and producer ali you can come up if you want and tell the full story here but a while back ali said hey we'll invite you we'll tell the view people hey clay and buck are happy to come on the show so in july and i just shared this this email from ali to the view and i will read it for all of you this is a producer at the view hi laurie conservative radio host clay and buck would like to pitch themselves as guests on the view they often play clips from the program on their nationally syndicated radio show granted as a means to refute them and thought a sit down will be productive for both audiences since they come from two completely different perspectives buck lives in miami and clay lives in nashville but they'd be willing to travel to new york thank you for the consideration this went out in july now i'm going to pull allie up in a sec but first here is joy behar saying you know the truth of the matter is republicans won't come on the show they're afraid to listen i think that.

[Legal Analyst/Guest]

We should have more republicans on the show but they don't want to come on they're scared of us it's like marjorie taylor greene says that she finds the republican men afraid of powerful women well that may be true of all all the political persuasions but if they would come on this show and they can explain to us what they're trying.

[Clay Travis]

To do to this country okay i don't think buck and i are afraid.

[Buck Sexton]

Of powerful women challenge accepted challenge accepted.

[Clay Travis]

Let'S go all right producer ali you have now written another email to the view reiterating you can come up but the email that i read you sent in july was there a response to to that email from yes actually there was a quick response very quick saying they only had two more episodes to shoot so their schedule was full and they wouldn't be back until the fall at which point i said okay i'll follow up in the fall and i followed up today and i have i'm waiting to hear back and you said can i tell you something we're happy.

[Buck Sexton]

To do it this is important the view according to grok has frequently had two guests on simultaneously two guests including politicians authors actors and even musical guests who are there as a duo so i just want to be clear there is no reason why they could not have a clay and buckathon on the view based on the established parameters they have for guests in the past because i don't want them throwing that at us either like we can't because if what they'll try to do if it's just one of us they're going to try to over talk and just have too many voices shouting at you at the same time just make sure you.

[Clay Travis]

Bring that third hat oh i would bring a hat for alyssa farah griffin and i would hand it to her and i would say hey since trump's brought back the hostages here is a red maga hat you can put that on for this entire segment to honor president trump's great job in bringing back.

[Buck Sexton]

The hostages i'm going to tell you something i think that she actually would be willing to wear the hat i think that she worries that if she wore that hat it would trigger other members of the table too much like they would even though she said this was the the marker that she laid out there i think she realizes that the rest of the table would throw a fit about it they would they had no they have no sense of humor about it at all by the way joy behar has a writing team they write all of her jokes she's actually not that funny she's not coming up with this stuff on the fly if you watch her closely now i'm throwing down the gauntlet a little bit you watch her closely she's trying to find ways to get in lines that have been written by her writers i.

[Clay Travis]

Will give this doesn't happen very often.

[Buck Sexton]

She does look great for her age though to be fair joy you look.

[Clay Travis]

Great i'm just saying also she is probably not aware of most of the guests so she may think to herself when she says republicans are afraid to go on the show because to be fair people pitch themselves on this show all the time i mean producer ali you can say like if people out there like is this a common thing i mean we get pitches hundreds of pitches a year dozens a day of people who are saying hey we'd like to come on as a guest so and most of them we never buck neither buck nor i are going and saying we can't have this person on so i don't necessarily know that joy is aware of the number of people who are reaching out that would be willing to come on so when she saying that she may actually believe buck that she's being truthful she is not however and we just you know we shared the so called receipts of of the invitation that we put out there hey we're happy to come on and by the way you know we would have alyssa on this show you know if they wanted to put a view member on this show to promote their show i mean we're not running and hiding from any of that speaking of running and hiding though buck you you were talking about this a little bit earlier and we've got a couple of guests by the way coming in the third hour our buddy ryan garduski we're going to talk about the absolute latest on virginia new york city and and new jersey as those elections get closer steve hilton out in california to talk about the katie porter insanity and the potential run there i wanted to play this because this is one of the people that is running to be a democrat nominee for california when gavin newsom is forced to turn women himself out and she went on piers morgan and the la is going to have the olympics in twenty twenty eight the summer olympics are taking place in los angeles should be awesome be a lot of fun to watch but piers morgan asked this democrat california governor's candidate hey what do you think about the idea of trans women that is men pretending to be women being able to compete in the olympics and he followed up and i just want to play a cut from this because these people have lost their minds and they're totally trapped on this trans argument listen it seems to.

[Piers Morgan]

Me like you would like to remove any any sexual differentiation between the olympic sports and let them all compete it would be gender neutral would it if.

[California Democrat Candidate]

You were governor well i again i want to be sure that everyone has the ability to compete right but would.

[Piers Morgan]

You would you have a gender neutral olympics where you would have not you wouldn't have male and female sport then you just have one one that everyone could join in well i don't think.

[California Democrat Candidate]

We'Re going to get that tomorrow but i think it's a conversation worth having.

[Piers Morgan]

You think it's a conversation worth having where you have gender neutral olympics because.

[California Democrat Candidate]

We need to understand what the attributes are of athletes across the spectrum but.

[Piers Morgan]

You'Ve already said that you understand the reason they separate the sexes is that men have a physical advantage over women.

[Clay Travis]

He also then maybe we can grab this because i think it really kind of brings it home he says wait you think that a woman should run against usain bolt in the hundred meters the fastest man in the history of the world and you think that's going to be a fair competition and basically she says yes she doesn't know maybe the woman would win these people are crazy buck and i don't know how they get off of this crazy train.

[Buck Sexton]

Without having supreme court i think you're.

[Clay Travis]

Arguing you've already hit that's what it.

[Buck Sexton]

Is it's well by the way there is there are a few things that are making their way toward the supreme court right now in fact there is litigation out of i think it's in in colorado the case is little v hecox maybe hecox but it's a transgender student who wanted to be on the girls cross country team and this and brought suit back in twenty twenty really at the peak of this yeah wanted to join oh yeah this is no it's idaho that i said colorado sorry idaho idaho boise state so it's college it's college level and wanted to be on the women's college cross country team sued sued and a ninth circuit judge ended up getting involved in this and now it's law without getting too deep into the weeds on this the situation is that the original plaintiff is trying to tried to withdraw his case as a her tried to withdraw the case clay because they don't want the supreme court to actually take this up yeah and a federal judge just today judge nye who is a trump appointee said oh no you're not doing this you know hide the football situation here you wanted to bring a federal lawsuit about discrimination saying that you're actually to be treated as a woman we're taking we're taking this thing on like let's go and now it looks like the supreme court is is eventually going to be taking this up and i think they're going to have to weigh in on no men are men and women are women and we're allowed to make different decisions about the two in law as.

[Clay Travis]

A matter of law there is a i'm going to give them credit here great long form piece in the new york times recently looking at the scarmetti case jonathan scarmetti is the attorney general of the state of tennessee the supreme court came out and said that the state can restrict this so called gender affirming care for minors that there is a state interest and the trans community is in a panic because they thought that they were going to be able to win these cases basically that the trans treatments and all this stuff on minors is actually okay and instead they're losing and what you just pointed out is an important point they're now trying to avoid giving the supreme court an opportunity to strike down a lot of the state laws and so they're trying to pull back now because they're like oh my goodness the same logic of scarmetti is certainly going to apply in in sports that's right the trans activists.

[Buck Sexton]

Don'T want their day in court all of a sudden yes isn't that so interesting to see they want to rely.

[Clay Travis]

And this goes into the weeds buck they want to rely on like the ninth circuit and some of the liberal circuit courts without having to get a nationwide ruling so that in california and oregon and washington the crazy arguments can prevail instead of the supreme court slapping.

[Buck Sexton]

It down so i'm very familiar with this tactic clay because as a longtime new york city and new york state resident particularly on the new york city side this is the game they used to play all the time they would they did flatly unconstitutional things when it came to firearms and then the moment somebody brought legislation they would change it and then they would do something else flatly on you know the five hundred dollars fee to be a to be not a concealed carrier to be a premise permit holder they they would just use the system in bad faith to do things that they knew were unconstitutional and instead of actually allowing the system to then say no you're disrespecting the rights the two way rights of people in new york city they would pull it and then it's moot and they would argue it's moot that's what this trans athlete in idaho is trying to do and this thank heavens this trump appointee has said no no no you brought it now we're gonna finish it we're gonna do we're gonna see where this actually goes yeah and it's not.

[Clay Travis]

Gonna go a good place for all these people but i mean this woman is trying to become the democrat nominee for california and her argument is we don't really know whether men are faster than women or not to put this into context for you buck every single state high school champion in texas last year for track and field every single boy these are you know eighteen and younger boys fifteen to eighteen year old boys every single texas state champion ran faster speeds than the fastest women in the history of the olympics so we're not even talking about i think florence griffith joiner flo jo is still the fastest woman of all time every texas high school state champion at all district levels smoked flo jo so we're not even talking about men versus women on the best men in the world we're talking about the state of texas by itself every boys state champion is faster than the fastest woman that's ever existed in the history of the world switch.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

But also a little comic relief clay.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

First and and and i'm telling you i think you guys will enjoy it by the way producer greg grabbed that clip which again i think i give credit to media that now are pushing past the opening question because what it eventually leads to if you have a genderless olympics then you have to believe that a woman could beat usain bolt in one hundred meter race and that's exactly where piers morgan went this is one of the candidates to be the california democrat nominee listen to this actual.

[California Democrat Candidate]

Conversation i think you can see female athletes where particularly in track and field where agility is probably hang on are.

[Piers Morgan]

You suggesting that women so hang on you think that women could compete against men in track and field like in one hundred meters two hundred meters ten thousand meters do you perhaps you know.

[California Democrat Candidate]

I'M not a sports expert of course.

[Piers Morgan]

They could have you seen the have you seen the times that women and men record in the olympics for all track and field events have you watched usain bolt when he smashed the world record for the one hundred meters yes yes so you think women could run against usain bolt for example at his peak and that would be fair i.

[California Democrat Candidate]

Think look i'm just gonna say this there's a lot of misinformation about the ability of transgender that wasn't my question.

[Clay Travis]

So i mean again you have to call these people out on the absurdity and really put them on the carpet.

[Buck Sexton]

Here what is more troubling clay if this woman that piers is talking to who wants to be obviously a powerful person in california if she believes this or if she knows it's a lie and says this which is worse the.

[Clay Travis]

Second because you're a moron if you believe it but at least you're being honest in your belief it doesn't mean that you should be better to be a better to be honest than intentional liar i think now that's a tough that's a tough balance and some of you are gonna say clay you're both we'll take some of those talk backs but yeah i think i think this woman's more moron than intentional liar you guys may disagree more with us next.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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