Hour 2 - Iran Deep Dive

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 - Iran Deep Dive
Date: March 24, 2026
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
Special Guest: Steve Yates, Senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation, former Bush national security official

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off its second hour with a comprehensive deep dive into the escalating crisis between the United States, its allies, and Iran, specifically focused on the conflict over the Strait of Hormuz. Hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton invite Steve Yates to offer expert analysis, unpacking the regional stakes, Trump administration strategy, coalition politics, and possible endgames. Following this high-stakes geopolitical discussion, the episode pivots into lighter territory with discourse about baseball, time zones, and online dating—featuring lively caller interaction.

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1. Strait of Hormuz Crisis: Strategic and Geopolitical Complexity

(03:10–16:52)

Why the Strait of Hormuz Matters

• Geographical Choke Point: "It's a very confined geography... a very long strip of waterway... goes through this very narrow strait that is a choke point." — Steve Yates [03:53]
• Global Oil Impact: While most oil through the strait doesn't go to the US, disruptions inflate global energy prices and impact global markets, with China and India being primary consumers.
  • "Oil is a fungible good... when oil goes out of this restricted area and goes to China, that affects global supply in the market and it affects prices." — Steve Yates [05:49]

US Policy and Trump's Strategy

• Military Options Discussed:
  • Some editorial opinions suggest landing US troops for a swift operation, but Yates warns this would be far more challenging and risky than it appears.
    • "People who say this is a simple military operation might be underselling it." — Steve Yates [03:53]
• Trump’s “Maximum Pressure” Diplomacy:
  • Trump’s approach is described as alternating between hardline threats and offering diplomatic off-ramps.
    • "He hits like a sledgehammer and then he'll pull back and look for where are their deals... he's giving them off ramps every step along this way." — Steve Yates [07:32]
  • Focus on pressuring allies to assume more responsibility for protecting oil flows, not just relying on the US military.
• Red Lines and Deadlines:
  • Trump’s threat to strike Iranian energy infrastructure if the strait isn’t reopened is noted, as is hesitancy to go all in—Yates frames this as part of a strategy to force Iran to negotiate.

Potential Military Scenarios

• Occupation/Taking Control of Strategic Islands:
  • "The Carg island option is very much front and center... We would have to just knock the crap out of their coastline to have a safe buffer." — Steve Yates [09:25]
• Allies and Burden-Sharing:
  • "This really should be something that is a shared responsibility, especially among Gulf allies." — Steve Yates [09:25]

Goals & Acceptable Endgames

• Short & Long-Term Objectives:

  • De-escalation leading to longer-term maintenance, especially targeting Iran’s nuclear program and disarmament.
  • "Think of it as getting to a de-escalation point that pivots into longer term maintenance... complete defanging of the security forces." — Steve Yates [10:45]

• Victory Conditions:

  • Strait reopens, oil flows, verifiable denuclearization, and arrangements for long-term security.
  • "Complete, verifiable, irreversible dismantlement of that [nuclear] program is a 30-plus year long objective. If President Trump did that in a month or two, that's borderline miraculous." — Steve Yates [14:20]

The Role of Israel and Arab States

• Will Israel Act Alone?
  • Unlikely, says Yates; regional partners should play more roles in both military and political transitions.
  • "I really seriously hope that our regional partners play more of a role... We can't be the one that's micromanaging this." — Steve Yates [12:24]
• Arab State Support:
  • Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar are reportedly backing US/Trump’s hard line, showing regional consensus against Iran’s activities.
  • "It's frankly welcomed by them when Trump 1.0 brought in the maximum pressure campaign... Arab allies pushed very, very hard in this." — Steve Yates [16:01]

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2. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Geopolitics and Realism:

  • "People who say this is a simple military operation might be underselling it." — Steve Yates [03:53]
  • "He hits like a sledgehammer and then he'll pull back and look for where are their deals." — Steve Yates [07:32]
  • "[Trump is] giving them off ramps every step along this way... he's tried to leave the civilian energy infrastructure intact so that post conflict reconstruction is cheaper and better for the people of Iran." — Steve Yates [07:32]
  • "Victory for us is obviously, Strait of Hormuz is open, oil is flowing, we have some kind of de-escalation agreement..." — Clay Travis [13:12]

• Coalition Dynamics:

  • "We can't be the one that's micromanaging this even in the months, much less years range." — Steve Yates [12:24]
  • "Arab allies are sick of what Iran has done to them during this conflict and really over the last decades." — Steve Yates [16:01]

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3. Key Timestamps and Topical Segments

• Strait of Hormuz background and challenges: [03:10–05:49]
• US/Trump policy, military considerations: [05:49–09:25]
• Endgames, victory standards, and coalitions: [09:25–14:20]
• The roles of Israel and Arab states: [12:24–16:01]
• Notable quotes and soundbites: [all throughout]

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4. Callers, Cultural Commentary, and Lighter Moments

(22:02–end)

After the Iran deep dive, the show pivots to a mix of cultural banter, interactive caller segments, and humor:

Notable Topics

• Baseball Hot Dog/Beer Challenge: Inspired by MLB opening day chatter, Clay and Buck share hot takes on the feasibility (or misery) of eating nine hot dogs and drinking nine beers during a nine-inning game, with Jesse Kelly name-dropped as a likely contender. [22:02–24:19]

• Caller Jimmy from Memphis:

  • Joking that selling Memphis to Arkansas and Mississippi would improve Tennessee's crime stats.
  • “If we sold Memphis to Arkansas and Mississippi, the crime rate in Tennessee would go down by a thousand percent.” — Caller Jimmy [26:20]
  • Critique of immigration, big city politics, and crime in tourist regions like Memphis. [25:52–28:18]

• Fun with Time Zones:

  • Proposal to solve Daylight Saving by splitting the US into just two time zones; playful debate on sunlight preferences and efficiency. [29:15–31:06]

• Guns, Dating Culture, and Social Media:

  • Discourse on firearm background checks, online gun culture, and the placement of guns in dating app profiles.
  • Buck: "If I were a girl, that would be a little bit of a red flag."
  • Reflection on societal biases: "Women discriminate against short and bald men publicly more than men discriminate against women for any physical attribute at all." — Buck Sexton [37:34]
  • Clay: "I think women are more Heidist than anything else." [37:47]
  • Philosophical take: “Fit, kind, emotionally stable — the only dating problem is too many options.” — Clay Travis [39:27]

• Pop Culture Callback:

  • Reference to Linda from Arizona, whose call influenced Trump policy and got a shout-out on Jimmy Kimmel, adding a meta-media moment to the show. [45:46–46:08]

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5. Conclusion & Tone

The episode offers a high-level, nuanced examination of one of the world's most sensitive geopolitical flashpoints, balancing serious expert-driven analysis with the program’s trademark "intelligence and humor." Guest Steve Yates provides clarity on military and diplomatic realities, coalition politics, and what victory—or at least stability—might look like. The latter part of the episode segues into familiarity with playful, listener-driven banter, providing both gravity and levity for their diverse audience.

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Recommended Listening

• For the geopolitical deep dive, start at [03:10]—especially for Yates’s insights.
• For lighter cultural discussion and callers, jump to [22:02].
• Memorable quotes and practical explanations about the Iran crisis are peppered throughout [03:10–16:52].

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Ads, sponsor reads, and introductory segments have been omitted for focus on substantive episode content.

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Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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Second hour of clay in Buck kicks off.

[Caller Jimmy]

Now.

[Clay Travis]

Let's talk straight of Hormuz, the conflict with Iran. And bring in our friend Steve Yates. He's a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a former Bush national security official. And Steve, just, just take us through as you see it here. We know Hormuz is a choke point. Why is this so complicated? What do you think can be done about it? How do we resolve this thing? I saw an editorial in the Journal, Wall Street Journal, saying, you know, we just gotta land troops to secure the strait and it's just gonna be a quick operation. And I'm like, whoa, hold on, hold on a second. I've heard that before. What do you think about what's going on here?

[Steve Yates]

Well, Buck, as you know, it's a very confined geography. That's one of the major challenges. It's a very long strip of waterway where has shoreline all along one side. There are some very, very wealthy neighbors on the other side of that water that would like to get their energy out to market. And then it goes through this very narrow strait that is a choke point. There's an island in the middle of it that Trump has hit some military targets on and has talked about maybe taking control over. That is responsible for refining and has an extremely high proportion of Iran's oil endowment. So I think people who say this is a simple military operation might be underselling it. A they are so close to Iran geographically that even with remnants, you might still get hit. And I think that's why President Trump has done this. Maximum pressure, but then pull back and say, if we can get a deal that gets them to relent and we reopen things, then we're in a better place. And he also has pressured allies to say, you know, we have a really small American percentage of this oil. You guys come in and shepherd your vessels out of here and the Iranians shouldn't shoot at you. And so I think there's these at least two layers that really need to get handled before the curve is turned on this.

[Buck Sexton]

Steve, I think a lot of our listeners are just not very familiar with the Strait of Hormuz in general. Based on my reading, the vast majority of oil and gas that is coming through the Strait of Hormuz has no impact on the United States oil and gas marketplace at all. And I think much of it ends up going to China. With that in context, to what extent actually should this be a larger global issue? A lot of the focus has been on the United States oil and gas market, but really it's more of a global issue than it is a United States one.

[Steve Yates]

Well, Clay, that's right. But first and foremost, oil is a fungible good, which is a fancy word of meaning. It can, it can shift in value and get sold and bought in any number of different ways. And so when oil goes out of this restricted area and goes to China, that affects global supply in the market and it affects prices. And so any release of resources out of this conflict zone will have downward pressure on price in some measure. It's definitely the case that China is the overwhelming buyer of Iran oil. It's partly because it's been sanctioned for a long time and they've gotten it at a discount. President Trump is trying to remove that discount and get them to pay for a little bit of the security freight. India also depends on a good bit of this, too, but it's definitely one of these global commons issues of where Europeans depend to some degree and Asian major powers depend in a large degree. And America's providing them a service that Trump aims to pay it, get them to pay a bill for.

[Clay Travis]

Steve, how do you assess the Trump. I'm going to, speaking from the Trump perspective here, said we're going to hit the energy facilities, power plants, I believe, and energy facilities in Iran unless they open the strait. But then we heard there's some back channel negotiation. So he has put that red line or he has moved that timeline down a bit. How do you think this is going? Is it possible to read into this? I mean, I know with Trump, I feel like part of the strategy is actually a little bit of the perception of chaos that the opposition can take from his statements. What do you think about what he's doing?

[Steve Yates]

Well, Buck, you know, from people who've been longtime practitioners, we think of this as somewhat statecraft. I think of it as Trump craft. He hits like a sledgehammer and then he'll pull back and he'll look for where are their deals. And he recognizes just common sense that if we can get them to relent and engage in some kind of a verifiable deal, that is safer, more endurable, and it's a much preferable path to go down. At the same time, even though his critics will never recognize it, he's being reasonable. He's giving them off ramps every step along this way so that if they miss this deadline, and I suspect they might miss this deadline, Trump will hit them hard. But he's tried to leave the civilian energy infrastructure intact so that post conflict reconstruction is cheaper and better for the people of Iran. If they can take their country trying to do them a solid, hopefully they recognize it. But I would make no mistake about it. This deadline passes very much further. Trump's gonna hit them hard. And that is kind of a classical form of warfare. You take the energy out to end the war machine. That's how you get total surrender.

[Buck Sexton]

We're talking to Steve Yates, as we've been talking to you in the last, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes, the story from the Wall Street Journal. U.S. has ordered 3,082nd Airborne soldiers to the Middle East. Trump has given Iran a Friday deadline. What do you think it would look like if there were to be a raid? And I say raid because I don't think we're going to be setting up bases in Iran that potentially could involve Carj island or putting troops to try to protect the Strait of Hormuz in a big picture sense. What might that look like? And obviously Trump is at least threatening that he might do so with these actions.

[Steve Yates]

Well, I do think the Carg island option is very much front and center. I really don't like the option personally, of the US Being kind of the sole provider of security in this really should be something that is a shared responsibility, especially among those Gulf allies who have been hit by Iran and now say they're going to hit back and they need to provide security for their flows to go to market. So I really hope the President is working behind the scenes to get them involved so that there's skin in the game in every sense. And it's not just American targets for Iran, Iranian forces to hit. We would have to just knock the crap out of their coastline to have a safe buffer, buffer for ships. And we'd probably have to occupy Carg island to control that.

[Clay Travis]

Do we have a sense? We're speaking to Stephen Yates, senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation. National security expert. Steve, do we have a sense of what the acceptable end game is here again, Trump has indicated numerous times of an end game or what maybe it looks like, depending on the day. But I think there's variations on a theme here. Where do you think, what do you think would be acceptable for this to get to at least a ceasefire and some next phase?

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[Steve Yates]

Well, Buck, I think of it as getting to a de escalation point that sort of pivots into longer term maintenance. And I think President Trump has been clear about some of the standards. One has been hyper focused on the nuclear programs that's combined US And Israeli operations that might involve having to have some forces, hopefully not ours, but some forces going in to physically control and verify disarmament in those sensitive facilities, the launch capabilities, complete defanging of the security forces. I think that's also been more the Israeli mission in recent days. So I think it's overwhelmingly getting the flow of resources, not just because we love oil, although that's a good thing to love to keep the world running. It's to make it so that markets calm, resources flow and there's a sense of where we can get post major military operations. I think that we should and must get there in the next week or two and that's where we'll get a sense of is this tipping into a more complex entanglement or have we really hit all those targets that the Secretary of War and the President have said? We have.

[Buck Sexton]

Trump has been talking about doing this since the 1980s. There have been people out there who have said, oh, he only did this because of Israel. Buck and I have talked about this. I'm curious how you would analyze the likelihood of this. I can see a world where the United States says, hey, we've done everything we want to do and pulls back and Israel continues to hit Iran. What do you think the likelihood of that is that this union of attack eventually turns into a solitary attack from Israel?

[Steve Yates]

Well, I 100% agree that it's going to change. I don't want it to be solitary in the sense that I really seriously hope that our regional partners play more of a role in constructively shaping the security and economic environment there after major military operations wind down. I believe completely. The president has his set of clear objectives. He wants to make sure there's a return on the investment. But he's definitely, I think, going to be looking in the shorter term horizon, whereas Israel and maybe some other partners really need to do the constant gardening. In the longer term, we can hit every once in a while when necessary. I Think that's appropriate for the United States as a superpower. But we can't be the one that's micromanaging this even in the months, much less years range, going after this.

[Clay Travis]

What does a realistic future of the Iranian state look like? That would be clear evidence that the Trump plan here has worked. I mean, essentially, Steve, what is, yeah, victory for us is obviously straight of. Hormuz is open, oil is flowing, we have some kind of, as you said, a de escalation agreement. Gotta figure out what the Israelis are gonna do in this as well. I figure there's gonna be some high level, the highest level talks between Trump and Netanyahu on this. But is there a world in which we decide we can live with the mullahs still kind of in charge, but they're just really wimpy and frightened mullahs, or is it some kind of a pathway to a representative democracy, maybe overseen by some Arab League transition process? I mean, I'm basically asking you to fix the Middle east here, but we had a lady call in and fix the DHS problem with TSA. So, you know, you've been doing this for like 30, 40 years. Steve, you tell me, how does the next phase of Iran look if this all goes according to plan?

[Steve Yates]

Well, Buck, the first sign I'm looking for is an actual human being with a name. That is the person or group that President Trump has been negotiating with directly or indirectly. I think for their own life sake, they have kept this person anonymous. A lot of speculation, but really if there's going to be a soft transition, it's going to have to be into the hands of some entity that's recognizable so that we and others in the international community can make deals that ensure the peace and get through this transition. So first we're going to have to see who's the they. When President Trump says they have made a commitment to denuclearize, that would be a major win. If that's true, and I believe the President is hearing that. But complete, verifiable, irreversible dismantlement of that program is a 30 plus year long objective. If President Trump did that in a month or two, that's borderline miraculous. And so getting that person identified, that group identified, and then international peacekeepers or verifiers, that's where we can go back to the allies and say, you guys have got to come up with a coalition that does this. You run into problems. We might be your 911, but we're not your daily daddy.

[Buck Sexton]

Last question, CV8. There are reports that Saudi Arabia is encouraging Trump to keep pouring on the steel, so to speak on Iran, uae, Qatar based on reports kicking Iranian diplomats out of their country is the most under discussed part of this entire attack. How much support there is for it from so called other Arab Muslim countries.

[Steve Yates]

Well Clay, that's ultimately been the biggest rebuttal to this idea that it was somehow Israel that on its own dragged us into this. For years I have heard from Arab allies deep, deep concerns and it was frankly welcomed by then when Trump 1.0 brought in the maximum pressure campaign to get away from the Obama Iran nuclear deal. They were the key drivers that made the Abraham Accords a reality. It was yes the US And Israel involved and very much so. But it was Arab allies that pushed very, very hard in this. And it's really ultimately gets back to Trump craft 1.0. He's resetting all of these trouble zones with different cards and different coalitions. And I think those Arab allies are sick of what Iran has done to them during this conflict and really over the last decades.

[Buck Sexton]

Steve, outstanding stuff as always. Keep us updated. I know the audience is going to appreciate all this deep dive and we will talk to you again soon.

[Steve Yates]

Thanks so much.

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[Buck Sexton]

Travis Buck Sexton show We'll take a bunch of your calls as we have a relatively quick turn here. I thought we could have some fun on the backside since we've had a lot of serious discussion going on. Our friend Jesse Kelly, who many of you hear on many of these same premier networks in the evening, just tagged me. Major League Baseball opening day is I think tomorrow, I think majorly or Thursday. It's coming up very soon. I know it's this week and a lot of teams have been leaning in. Buck, I don't think you'd ever heard about this before. There is a challenge if you go to a ball game. Can you drink nine beers and eat nine hot dogs during the course of a nine inning game? Buck is reacting as you would probably anticipate Buck would react to this. And Jesse Kelly says in his 20s, he think he could, he thinks he could have pulled it off. I feel very confident about the beers that I could get through nine stadium beers in a baseball game if I were trying to. The hot dogs like sounds awful. I'm not opposed to hot dogs. One hot dog is good, right? If you have one hot dog, you're like, hey, this is pretty good. Two is okay. Three hot dogs is gross. I just, I could never go triple. That's what she said. I think there's probably some of you out there say, I don't even know.

[Clay Travis]

I'm gonna leave the hot dog eating contest and the beer and the beer swirling to you and our friend Jesse Kelly. Jesse has a lot of. A lot of vertical. You know, most people would have horizontal room for these things. Jesse has a lot of vertical room. You know, it's like the Jolly Green Giant can take in more calories than a normal person.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, you know, it's like the. What? Who is it? The Joey Chestnut, I think is the basic hot dog eating champion consistently in the. Nathan's hot dog eating. I met him at a football game this past fall. But the guy eats like 65 hot dogs or something that just I once called a hot dog eating contest live on radio, which is that. That is straining credulity to have to pull that off.

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[Buck Sexton]

Walking in Memphis? A great song.

[Clay Travis]

Walking in Memphis. That's what I keep thinking of. Jimmy in Memphis. What's going on?

[Caller Jimmy]

You guys are going on. Gentlemen, you got one of the most awesome shows. I know Buck has got a book to sell and I have already got it. And I bought two, Buck because I always give it to one of my friends because when he borrows the book, he never gives it back and denies he ever borrowed it. But I bought two just to play it.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you.

[Caller Jimmy]

You're.

[Clay Travis]

You're a good man. And Manufacturing Delusion is the book. There's been a price drop on Amazon. Go get a copy of Manufacturing Delusion, the New York Times bestseller today. What have you got for us, Jimmy?

[Caller Jimmy]

All right. What I got for you? All right. Memphis, Tennessee. Listen, I always used to joke around. I grew up in Memphis, I moved out, came back. If we sold Memphis to Arkansas and Mississippi, the crime rate in Tennessee would go down by a thousand percent.

[Buck Sexton]

True. This is a funny line. People look at Tennessee crime rate, Arkansas, and Memphis is the capital of Arkansas and Mississippi for those of you who are not great at geography. So, yes, sorry to cut you off, but that is a very funny line.

[Caller Jimmy]

Right. And the thing is, like Elvis, Graceland draws about a half a million. If you did something about the crime rate, I think it would be well over a million people going there. That White Haven neighborhood where Graceland is, is not really is a very high crime area. No matter what anybody says. It has helped that Trump has brought in the National Guard. He's highlighted Memphis, Tennessee. And there are places in Memphis, Tennessee that could be a tourist attraction. But people will not come to see Memphis, Tennessee if there's big crime areas surrounding it. There is Germantown right next to which is beautiful, but it's outside Memphis, Tennessee. So the bottom line here is this, guys, and I love your show. I want to be a regular caller. We got to end legal immigration. It's turned the Democratic Party into a left wing party. That 65 immigration act has basically turn the Democratic Party and our big cities upside down and they're not coming back, man. Danny got elected in New York City with 85% foreign voters. They try to lie during the campaign, say, oh, it was a bunch of college kids are going to do, are going to like them. No, it wasn't. It was foreigners who elect them. Mandani's a foreigner. And let me tell you something, Mandani today would be in Uganda selling cheeseburgers if Pat Buchanan got elected president 25 years ago when I was a kid, a teenager, supporting the great PAC Buchanan and get in the middle of freedom. He deserves it. Gentlemen. Love it.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you for the call, Jimmy. I would not have said Jimmy was from Memphis born and raised. I'm not going to lie. I would have thought he was from an east coast, maybe moved to Memphis, but maybe there's some Memphis Jimmy.

[Clay Travis]

Jimmy sounds like he could be head of the Clay and Buck listener club from Staten Island. Listen, on W O R Jimmy was not. That's not. That's not a Memphis accent, is it?

[Buck Sexton]

I would not have expected it. By the way, James in South Carolina, Buck, we asked for some ideas, we got some interesting one. James, what's your idea?

[Caller Jimmy]

Hey, guys, love the show. It's an honor to speak to you. Long time rush from many, many years ago.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you. Fire away. What's your idea?

[Caller Jimmy]

Hey, my contribution to make America great again is I've called it the 30 minutes in the middle initiative. We need to get rid of daylight savings time at 30 minutes in the middle and never look back again.

[Buck Sexton]

Guys, thank you for the call. That seems crazy. So we would.

[Clay Travis]

Clay. Clay is hitting the gong and it's a no for me, dog. Clay is saying it's a no from

[Buck Sexton]

me if you want me to be in charge of time. If you made me. Times are. First of all, I don't think we should ever change the time. And I would leave the time as it is right now. When I got home yesterday, Buck, my kids got home, they're playing sports and there's still daylight outside. I would rather have afternoon daylight than I would rather have early morning daylight. That's my personal opinion. But if you asked me to really solve the time issue and I'm really going to rattle the cage now, I would eliminate four time zones. Buck, have you ever heard this argument? I would eliminate four time zones and I would make the entire nation two time zones. I would make the Mississippi river the dividing line and we would have east time east of the Mississippi and west time west of the Mississippi. And the entire nation would then be on a time zone where we were only one hour apart. So if you're in Maine or you're in la, you would be one hour apart. If you're in Seattle or Miami, one hour apart. And I think it would make the country more efficient instead of having to deal with three. With the four different time zones and I'm in the central time. So I think you probably take the central time for one half of the country and you take the mountain for the other half of the country and boom, the entire nation is united in only two time zones. Now, that's a little bit of a aggressive take, but I think it would be a good one. The 30 minute change. I don't like the 30 minute time change, Kelly.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I'm sorry, Clay. I keep thinking you're done.

[Buck Sexton]

You're Very fired up out there.

[Caller Jimmy]

I.

[Buck Sexton]

My wife is great at many things, Buck. She does not understand time zones. It doesn't matter where we are. She can't. She is like a mathematical genius. She cannot figure out what time it is anywhere. Like, it is one of the most unbelievable things. If I'm on the west coast and have been a lot over the years, she never had any idea how to figure out what time it was. She is really good at many things. Time zone, she doesn't do. I think this would help her and many other time zone having issue. I don't even know if there's a phobia or a. Or an issue for it. But anyway, solving that problem. Kelly in Wyoming, what you got?

[Caller Jimmy]

Hey, I got something to maybe get this save act pushed through. We know 80% of the population wants this and there's a lot of Democrats that have, you know, constituents that want this and I want to give them some cover. Let's amend the SAVE act to allow the states to create an endorsement for any new identification that is a negative firearms restriction. So that new in that new identification would carry a endorsement that says you can't own a firearm. If there's been a judgment or something of that nature. And then it's, it's, it's immediately available to everybody. You go to a gun show, you got that red door endorsement. You can't buy a firearm. Pulled over on the highway, highway patrolman's running your identification. Boom, it's right there. This guy can't have a firearm. Maybe that.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you for the call that. Thank you for that. That all. I mean, Buck, you bought way more guns than we have in the Travis family. But buying a gun is actually very difficult. And they run background checks on you everywhere already. So I'm not sure what his argument is. I would say a very.

[Clay Travis]

I don't, I don't get that. A felon is not, first of all, a felon can't even be in possession of a gun. So you're a felon. You can't even borrow a gun from your buddy to go hun or something. I mean, a felon cannot be in possession of a firearm. And then they, yeah, they run. If you're buying from any ffl, they're going to run a Nick's check on you, which they do. I mean, they do this on me every time I buy a gun.

[Buck Sexton]

I think the best argument as it relates to guns and the SAVE act is many people will say, when you say, hey, you have to show an ID to buy A beer or to buy a. To get a ticket to a concert or game or whatever, they will say, well, that's not a constitutional right. It is a constitutional right to bear arms. And the restrictions on buying guns are voluminous. So requiring an ID to vote doesn't feel like anywhere near the restrictions to buy a gun. Both are constitutional rights.

[Clay Travis]

Absolutely true. I'm just thinking here too. Would I get. Would we get in Trouble on YouTube if I like. I just picked up, I got an SBR of my MP9 from BNT, which is a Swiss gun manufacturer, and the proprietary suppressor that comes along with it. So I had to go through the. Not just the normal gun process, but also the ATF tax stamps. I have a double tax stamp on this rig. If I held it up for the YouTube, like, it's. Because it's sitting on my desk every year. Does. You know, you. You're. There are gun youtubes. That's okay, right? Like, you're.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. As long as it's legal where you are where.

[Clay Travis]

Right. This is taking people behind the scenes.

[Caller Jimmy]

It's legal.

[Clay Travis]

But I'm saying, I forget what the social media rules are about guns because, you know, for example, Bumble had a policy, the dating app. I remember reading about this. Bumble had a policy, was not a Bumble guy back in the day that if you were even like skeet shooting, they would shut. They would shut down your profile.

[Buck Sexton]

I will say I would.

[Clay Travis]

I.

[Buck Sexton]

You could be very pro gun having guns in your dating profile picture. If I were a girl, that would be a little bit of a red flag. Now, there are some guys out there that would say a hot girl shooting might be more likely for you to be interested. I don't think.

[Clay Travis]

Do you think it's a red flag if a guy has. If he's out skeet shooting?

[Buck Sexton]

No, I think if he chooses that to be a representative of what he wants people to see, I think that's a little bit. Maybe it's a little bit.

[Clay Travis]

Maybe he's an Olympic skeet shooter. You player. What are you talking about over here?

[Buck Sexton]

I'm not flipping it here. I think for girls, that would really work. But this is very funny. The number of gun magazines that just put a hot chick in a bikini. I don't know if these gun magazines still exist. I don't know what magazines are out there anymore. Do you remember back when we were kids, like, guns and ammo every now and then would just have a smoking hot chick in a bikini? Clearly not.

[Clay Travis]

I believe they call them. I Believe they call them a gun. Bunny is gun.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, that's a great phrase. So they'd have gun bunnies. I just. That is the most male thing ever. We're going to give a girl a big gun and put her in a bikini. And guys are like, this is the greatest thing that's ever existed. Um, I think girls using guns in profile pictures probably would be attractive to certain guys. I don't think there are that many guys who post gun shots, you know, like videos or whatever else on their profile.

[Caller Jimmy]

Now.

[Buck Sexton]

I've never had an online dating profile, so I'm flying a little bit blind here, that I got married before any of this stuff existed. So I have. I've never filled out an online profile like this, so I have really no idea. But it seems to me that that wouldn't be a huge. A huge level of support out there. Does that make sense? I mean, am I wrong? I know inevitably a bunch of women are going to be like, there's nothing hotter than a guy holding an ak. I think most women would be like. Like, you know, just put yourself in a baseball cap. And maybe not even that because then you could be bald and trying to hide it.

[Clay Travis]

I don't know. The two. The two. A community may be coming for you

[Buck Sexton]

in the comments show that you have hair and that you're six feet and you will just be swimming in chicks. That would be my suggestion on for online dating profiles. If you're short and bald, you're done for. Just go ahead and meet people in person.

[Clay Travis]

Listen, Clay's throwing our short kings under the bus here.

[Buck Sexton]

Short bald men are not gonna. Are not gonna pop on the social media dating apps.

[Clay Travis]

I think you just. If you got the baldness going, you just gotta own it. You know, you just gotta go. You shave it and you.

[Buck Sexton]

And you.

[Clay Travis]

You leave me know, maybe. Maybe you start running a little gear to get those muscles going pretty big.

[Buck Sexton]

I bet you would sign off on this for me. Women discriminate against short and bald men publicly more than men discriminate against women for any physical attribute at all.

[Clay Travis]

It's perfect. It's perfectly acceptable. For some reason. This is perfect, like for women to say, I don't agree with this, by the way. I think women are more Heidist than anything else.

[Buck Sexton]

And Harris, that exists. Yes. In.

[Clay Travis]

In the dating community. And I. I come out of this from just a few years ago. Women are more. You and I have talked about this.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Both of our wives who happen to be about the same height, like within an inch of each Other we are the bottom rung of acceptable height for them, which is crazy.

[Buck Sexton]

Laura's 5:2. I asked her, would you date me if I were 5 8? She said no, she's 5 2. I still would have been way taller than her. And she said, no, I would. I wouldn't have dated you. You'd have been too short for me. Like, I'm still a half. I still would have been a half foot taller than you. No, not enough.

[Clay Travis]

These women, the heightist thing, I don't

[Buck Sexton]

know where this came from. Like.

[Clay Travis]

Like, God forbid, everywhere.

[Buck Sexton]

God, for a guy says in his dating profile, fat chicks. No, he is the worst person that has ever existed in the history of mankind. Right? Like, women are like, what? How dare he. Women are like six foot or taller. It's totally expected there. It's just. It really is.

[Clay Travis]

I'll tell you this too, and this is going to probably get me in some trouble because there's all this. There's a lot. Just so you know, some of you are like, what are you even talking about? Because you've been out of this game for a long time. You're happily married 20 years, 50 years, whatever. Online. There's a lot of back and forth about women and men and dating and the whole. Because all it is all online now, pretty much. It's 90% of people are meeting online and all this stuff. And one of the things that comes up is there's not enough good men or there's not enough good women. There's all this back and forth bickering I have never come across in my personal life a person who was fit, kind and emotionally stable, who had any problem in dating other than too many options and needed to focus. That's. That's just my male or female fit. Fit, yes, Kind, emotionally stable. The only problem I've ever seen, male or female in that situation is too many options. Yeah, too many options, which is a problem of its own kind. But this thing of like, there's no good guys or there's no good girls. No, there's plenty.

[Buck Sexton]

No, I think one of the big problems, honestly, is that social media makes there so many options that a lot of times people can't make a choice about what they want. And that options. The multiplicity.

[Clay Travis]

I know women who are my age now that I grew up with in New York. I know many of them who are still unmarried, still don't have kids, and they went through their 20s and 30s with their pick of any guy they wanted to go on a date with. But that was actually their problem because they were waiting. They were waiting for the European prince with a six pack who's a billionaire to finally pop the question. And there's a reason that Disney is fantasy. You know what I'm saying? That's not really a thing.

[Buck Sexton]

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Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Top of the next hour. Senator Marsha Blackburn is going to join us. Let's play cut 10. I believe it is. We had a moment on Jimmy Kimmel last night. Linda from Arizona got a shout out. Listen.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

magically pop into his head, he came

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Caller Jimmy]

Clay Travis said the idea was pitched

[Buck Sexton]

by a caller into his radio show,

[Clay Travis]

which means it's very possible the President got this idea from Linda in Arizona.

[Buck Sexton]

Now a part of Monologues. Linda in Arizona just continuing to take over media everywhere.

[Clay Travis]

You know what I'm waiting for? Light him up, Linda. To call in, be like, all right, straight of Hormuz, I've got a plan. You got these Iranian bad guys. You light them up, you blow them up. You clear the battlefield and the oil flow.

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[Clay Travis]

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