Hour 2 - Is Cuba Next?

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 – Is Cuba Next?
Date: May 5, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Notable Guest: Daniel Perez, Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode explores the intersection of geopolitics, energy security, U.S. insurance policy for oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, and the evolving situation in Cuba and Venezuela. Clay and Buck open with humor and commentary on current events, then transition to deeper discussions on the risks and possible U.S. government interventions regarding oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz. A major segment features Daniel Perez discussing U.S. policy toward Cuba and Venezuela and State of Florida political updates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Presidential Fitness Tests and Childhood Anecdotes (03:21)

• The hosts reminisce about childhood fitness challenges, with Clay humorously lamenting he wouldn't want to take a presidential fitness test at his age.
  • “Could I pass this thing right now? Probably. But I don't want to make any promises.” – Clay Travis (03:41)
• Buck shares stories of mandatory wrestling in New York City Catholic schools and pokes fun at generational toughness.
  • “We’re a little more hardcore... Gen Z was like, ‘Eh, my shoulder hurts.’” – Buck Sexton (05:21)

2. Dolphins as Military Threats? (06:20)

• Buck and Clay riff on news reports alleging Iran threatened the U.S. with “mine-laying dolphins,” referencing both real military animal programs and Austin Powers’ “sharks with laser beams.”
  • “There are people who say that crows are freakishly smart too, which you would not expect.” – Buck Sexton (07:45)
  • Daniel Perez (Joint Chiefs) asked in a clip to clarify “kamikaze dolphins.” (08:47)
  • Hosts dismiss the seriousness of such threats, joke about Cold War experiments, and use pop culture references.
  • “Dr. Evil couldn’t get sharks with laser beams. I don’t think the Iranians can get dolphins with explosives attached to them.” – Clay Travis (09:41)

3. Strait of Hormuz Oil Tanker Risk & U.S. Insurance Proposal

Buck’s Proposal: U.S. as Insurer of Oil Tankers (10:00–18:16, resumed at 21:57 and 39:24)

• Context: Hundreds of oil tankers parked off Dubai, refusing to cross the Strait of Hormuz due to Iranian threats and insurance refusals.
• Buck’s thesis: The U.S. government could act as insurer—for tankers crossing the strait—to offset sky-high insurance risk due to acts of war, allowing oil and gas prices to drop.
  • “If we guarantee $50 million in payment to all of the ships, then I think a lot of the ship owners will go. I think they'll go.” – Buck Sexton (14:17)
  • Claims prices would “drop about 20 bucks overnight” if shipping resumed (13:42).
• Clay and Callers Push Back:
  • Clay questions who would really insure ships, and what happens if a ship is sunk, noting environmental concerns and repeated routes.
    • “He’s so blase about this. He’s like ecological disaster, oil everywhere, the whole straits. No big deal.” – Clay Travis (14:50)
  • Insurance agent caller outlines that acts of war are always excluded; Buck insists that's why the government—rather than private companies—should step in (22:06-23:36).
    • “You want to bail out oil tankers is what you want.” – Clay Travis (23:36)
• Multiple callers and Clay emphasize that U.S. taxpayers would bear the risk, and that “subsidizing the world” with this approach is controversial.
  • “It’s getting to be disgusting… It’s not reality, Clay.” – Caller ("Insurance Skeptic") (39:41–43:12)
  • “The American taxpayer... is subsidizing the entire world.” – Same caller (41:06)
• Buck rebuts, focusing on potential benefit to American consumers via lower pricing.
  • “If insurance is provided, theoretically, the ships start to move again and the price of oil and gas collapses. The average American consumer… would actually benefit substantially.” – Buck Sexton (41:06)
• Conversation covers U.S. energy independence vs. actual fuel costs, domestic production, and the discontent among Americans feeling the pinch at the pump despite record production.
• Closing on the theme: Some debates go in circles; Buck quips on the logic and limits of his idea.

4. U.S.-Cuba Policy and Cuban American Perspective

Guest: Daniel Perez, Speaker of the Florida House (24:38–31:44)

• Cuba’s dire state: Perez describes humanitarian crisis—no energy, food, healthcare. Historic oppression by regime forces many to risk their lives fleeing.
  • “Where we stand today is Cuba’s at an all-time low. There is no oil, there is no energy, there is no food, there is no health care. There is absolutely nothing on that island.” – Daniel Perez (25:29)
• What the U.S. should do:
  • Calls for increased pressure—sanctions, limiting flights and money flows.
    • “You have to absolutely squeeze the neck of this monster and you have to cut the head off the snake.” – Daniel Perez (27:28)
  • Says regime’s claims of “opening up free markets” are a facade; pseudo-entrepreneurial activity only enriches the state (28:00).
• Role of Marco Rubio:
  • Applauds Rubio (now Secretary of State) and President Trump’s firm stance—“double down” on sanctions and pressure until the Cuban people themselves rise up.
• Hosts lighten mood: Banter about Rubio DJing a Miami wedding and football (27:17, 33:43).

5. Venezuela’s Rebound & Cautionary Note (29:26–31:44)

• Perez hails President Trump’s “courage” for “taking out” Maduro, credits U.S. with Venezuela’s current prosperity.
  • “All of that credit goes to Secretary Rubio and President Trump.” – Daniel Perez (29:55)
• However, alarms at new President Delsey Rodriguez’s refusal to commit to democratic elections; worries Venezuela could revert to socialism without continued U.S. pressure.
  • “Without fair and accurate and open elections, then eventually they'll just go back to what they know best, which is that socialist ideology that got them in this place to begin with.” – Daniel Perez (30:22)

6. Florida Politics – Redistricting and Football

Redistricting (31:44–33:43)

• Perez explains rationale behind newly drawn Florida House map—addresses influx of new residents and possible past census flaws, credits GOP governance for the state’s prosperity.
  • “I think the last redistricting cycle was under a census that may have potentially been flawed and Florida has had an influx of people moving here… Now we’re in this place where a lot of people are moving to Florida. They want to live here.” – Daniel Perez (32:02)

College and Pro Football Banter (33:43–34:59)

• Hosts and Perez, a Florida State Seminole, joke about who’ll be more successful: the Miami Dolphins or Florida State Seminoles.
  • “We have no hope. Neither team has hope. I think the Dolphins are going to have a rough season, but we’re hoping for the best.” – Daniel Perez (34:33)

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Notable Quotes

• On Iran’s military animal programs:
  • “I can’t confirm or deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins, but I can confirm they don’t.” – Joint Chiefs (clip), Daniel Perez (08:53)
• On U.S. insurance proposal:
  • “We are publicly saying to all of these ship owners, we will insure your boat. So if your boat is sunk and attacked, then the United States, the full faith and credit of the United States, backbenches it.” – Buck Sexton (13:42)
• On Cuba:
  • “It is time for this regime to pick up their bag and get the hell out of town.” – Daniel Perez (25:29)
  • “It’s a facade that the regime has put in place in order to appease the Americans.” – Daniel Perez (28:00)
• On Venezuela:
  • “Venezuela today is in a way, way more prosperous situation than they were a year ago... My concern with Venezuela was a comment... ‘I don't know when [the election] is going to happen.’ And that's concerning.” – Daniel Perez (29:55, 30:22)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:21 – Show proper begins; school stories and generational values.
• 06:20 – Iran’s animal “weapons” (dolphins, Cold War, joint chiefs soundbite)
• 10:00–18:16 – Oil/gas price crisis; Buck’s U.S. insurance proposal and pushback.
• 21:57–23:36 – Insurance agent call: risks/exclusions, Buck’s rebuttal.
• 24:38–34:59 – Daniel Perez interview: Cuba, Venezuela, Florida redistricting, football banter.
• 39:24–44:48 – Caller debate: U.S. insurance proposal, energy independence vs. real costs.

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Memorable / Humorous Moments

• Buck on generational toughness: “Gen X continues to save the world. But that’s a whole nother discussion.” (05:33)
• Clay on Dolphins’ intelligence: “Killer whales are like, ‘No, that’s Clay Travis, look at him.’” (07:00)
• Buck paraphrasing motivational talk to tanker captains: “Not all of you are going to make it, but price of gas gonna go down 20 bucks overnight if a few of you do.” (17:46)
• Football jokes: “Poor Miami Dolphin fans. You guys are still fighting for Dan Marino.” (34:11)

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Tone and Language

• Conversational, friendly, combative: Buck and Clay probe each other’s arguments and callers’ criticisms, often with humor bordering on teasing.
• Guest segments: More formal but still places for lighthearted banter—especially on sports and Marco Rubio’s recent “DJ” appearance.

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Summary

This episode balances playful banter with substantive debates on the geopolitical crisis impacting energy prices. Buck’s controversial suggestion that the U.S. should act as insurer for oil tankers leads to a lively exchange with Clay and listeners, surfacing tension between economic benefits for Americans and global risks or subsidies.
Daniel Perez provides an insider Cuban American perspective on U.S. policy toward Cuba (advocating maximum pressure to force regime change) and Venezuela (applauding strong U.S. support and warning against democratic backsliding).
The episode gives a sense of urgency regarding U.S. engagement in global affairs, all set against the familiar rhythm of sports talk and cultural commentary that keeps the show’s tone both serious and accessible.

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[Clay Travis]

Second hour of clay and Buck kicks off right now. We'll have some updates for you on Tennessee redistricting battle, which is underway. Also, more from Trump at the White House, not just on Iran, but on the economy, on tariffs. Presidential fitness test. I hope it's age bracketed, right? Because I was like, I don't know what, I don't know. Could I pass this thing right now? Probably. We got to look at this thing. I don't want to make any promises.

[Buck Sexton]

Believe you never did the presidential fitness test. I thought, I thought everybody had to do this back in the day.

[Clay Travis]

Play my high school, if you gathered together all of the kids who were getting wedgies and were like, I'm the valedictorian getting shoved in a locker, that was my high school. Not a lot of presidential fitness tests going on there. And let's see, we've got more.

[Buck Sexton]

I remember it primarily in elementary school, but. But I'm sure it was elementary school version. Oh, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, we definitely didn't do it in elementary school.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah. Like young kids stuff. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

I've always said the best thing that we had when I was growing up in elementary school at St. David's in New York City was mandatory. And just hear me out. Mandatory wrestling starting in first grade. And we really, they actually really taught us. And it was, and then we had to wrestle. You didn't have a choice. It was like part of our PE program, basically. And if you were good enough, you had to wrestle in front of the whole school. And it was like, it was like Royal Rumble stuff in the third, fourth grade. And you didn't want to get punked. Like, you didn't want to look like a little, you know, some kind of dancing daisy out there. So you had to, you had to be ready to throw down. And, and yeah, it was, it was good. And then later on in life, you're like, you basically have the, you have the basics of grappling taught you. Clay, can I tell you what's funny about it though. About five years after I graduated, talking about grammar school, they got rid of it because parents complained that it was too violent. So us xennials, Gen X millennials, early millennials, we're a little more hardcore. You get a little bit older and all of a sudden they're like, Gen Z was like, eh, my shoulder hurts. So I'm just saying, Gen Z, you gotta, you gotta toughen up a little bit.

[Buck Sexton]

Gen X continues to save the world. But that's a whole nother discussion. Are you generation.

[Clay Travis]

I can't.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, you're the oldest millennial, basically, right?

[Clay Travis]

The oldest. You can be and be considered a millennial.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

So I'm, I'm. People call it a xennial, like a Gen X millennial. So I'm as old as you can be. I wanted to just get this out there because we were talking animals before crocodiles. Some of you are like, stop it. Talk about, talk about taxes and Trump and the agenda. And I hear you and we're going to get to that. But also some of you are like, let's talk about animals.

[Buck Sexton]

Way more popular. This is what the data reflects. I guarantee you the spike. As soon as you said, like somebody got killed by a crocodile in South Africa and there were six shoes inside, there's not one radio that went off, everybody's like spiked. This is what the data reflects. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Joint Chiefs. Ok. This is a real thing in the news. I'm not making this up. Clay mentioned yesterday dolphins possibly being deployed by Iran. There's some news reporting on this. I'm just bringing you the news, everybody.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't make the news. I report. Journal reported that Iran had threatened us with mine laying dolphins in. And I read. I mean, I took a picture because I knew people were going to think I'm crazy. I took a picture and then I highlighted it, which is about as good as I can do on my phone, tech wise. And then I tweeted it out. Cause I'm like, things are probably not going great for Iran if they're threatening us with dolphins and mines. But this was a real thing.

[Clay Travis]

Also. These sick sons of guns, like, leave the dolphins out of it. You know, they're actually considered, I believe, one of the five most intelligent animals on earth when they measure animal intelligence, which is a tough thing to do in a lot of ways. But one of the ways, and keep in mind killer whales. People talk about how freakishly smart they are. They're just large, they're just really big dolphins. They're actually technically not whales. They're in the dolphin family. We just call them whales because they're so large. So now think about that. And also interesting that killer whales can kill great white sharks. Can even remove their liver which is with like an incision. I don't even know how the heck that happens. And have never once in the wild never once attacked a human being. Mistaken a human being for a seal. Gives you a sense of the difference in intelligence between sharks, which to Clay's point will sometimes mistake us for seals. At least that's what we believe. The great white shark attacks are often the result of killer whales are like. No, that's Clay Travis, look at him. Clay, you've been in the gym lately. You know the, the great white. I mean the killer whales are a whole other level of intelligence. But dolphins obviously chimpanzees and some of the great apes, they call them chimpanzees. And then actually orangutans are the very top of the animal intelligence scale. Dolphins slash killer whales super high on that. There are people who say that crows are freakishly smart too, which you would not expect. Crows and ravens in the bird family. But they have a particularly high intelligence for an animal that you wouldn't expect with given the size of their brain. Okay, I'm getting weird here. Point is, Joint Chiefs chairman was asked about, about this whole dolphins thing. Pete Hegseth was at the conference too. Obviously Secretary of War cut to play it.

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[Daniel Perez]

I haven't heard the kamikaze dolphin thing.

[Clay Travis]

It's like sharks with laser beams, right.

[Buck Sexton]

And I can't confirm or deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins, but I can confirm they don't.

[Clay Travis]

I can confirm that there was the Soviets at one point I believe were experimenting with kamikaze dolphins. I think that was a thing Soviet era trying to train Clay. And here is two laser beams. This is from Austin Powers play three.

[Dr. Evil (Austin Powers reference)]

You know, I have one simple request and that is to have sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads. Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that can't be done. Can you remind me what I pay you people for? Honestly, throw me a bone here. What do we have?

[Clay Travis]

Seabass? Clay, Dr. Evil couldn't get sharks with laser beams. I don't think the Iranians can get dolphins with explosives attached to them.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm pretty confident it is probably a sign that things are not going great for Iran that they have no air force. They have no military really in terms of Navy. And President Trump said today we basically wiped out all the small boat fleet that they might have as well. And now according to the Wall Street Journal, and that was a couple of days ago, they were threatening us with dolphins that might have bombs on them. And this all comes back to. Look, I mean, you and I, I think, are correct in saying that the price of oil and gas right now is the number one story domestically. Is that fair to say? I know we got a lot of primaries want you to go vote in Indiana and Ohio. Redistricting continues to be a story. But in terms of how people feel, I think the number one story is affordability. And the number one way that people determine to a large extent affordability is what does it cost to fill up oil and gas tanks. And so this is where my talking about the insurance idea for the United States being the insurer of choice when it comes to the straight of four moves. I was just looking at a map during the commercial, the end of the hour break that we had. Buck, Most of these tankers right now are basically just parked off the coast of Dubai. There are hundreds of tankers that are just anchored off the coast of Dubai and they are all sitting there because the risk from their perspective of going through the strait is too high right now.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

Now.

[Clay Travis]

And you think that if we changed the insurance carrier, they would be willing to just go.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that there are.

[Clay Travis]

That's bull.

[Buck Sexton]

I do. And I understand some people think that's crazy, but I'm trying to look at it as a rational business based decision. The ship that is not moving is costing all of these companies a substantial dollar figure here. And so if you're just parked off the coaster. So my belief is if there were a worst case scenario removed, and this is from a business perspective, not a life perspective, although I don't want anybody to die as well. But the worst case scenario from a business perspective. Thank you very.

[Clay Travis]

That's very good of you by the way. I'm glad you said that. You know, even light them up. Linda is like, clay, slow down, buddy.

[Buck Sexton]

The worst case scenario from a business perspective is ship gets attacked, it sinks. And you had a caller who I thought did a good job breaking it down. Cargo, what's it worth? What's the ship worth? And so the insurance, to me, if you knew, worst case scenario, we're going to be able to be compensated for the value of that ship. Right now my understanding, Buck, is that many insurers, as that call just said, have notified the bank and the. And the owners of these ships and said, we are not going to pay in the event that something happens to your ship. A lot of these. And I used to work on some of these contracts. A lot of these contracts have war clauses in them and risk clauses in them. And your insurer will notify you and say, hey, this is a risk that we are not willing to take on. If you go and something bad happens, that's on you. I think if you told these owners, hey, we will protect you because they would take it. Now, the challenge. So what.

[Clay Travis]

What insurer? What insurer? Clay, hold on. I'm hearing you out on this, but I think it's a little crazy. What insurer is going to insure the boats? If they say, ok, we're insured, they go and one of them gets blown up.

[Buck Sexton]

No, it's the United States. That's what I'm saying.

[Clay Travis]

Who's going to step in then?

[Buck Sexton]

We are publicly saying to all of these ship owners, we will insure your boat. So if your boat is. If your boat is sunk and attacked, then the United States, the full faith and credit of the United States, backbenches it. My argument is that if we do that, oil and gas prices will immediately overnight drop about 20 bucks.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, but what happens when a ship gets blown up? Where do oil, gas prices go then? What ships are. What ships are going to want to go through after one of them is at the bottom of the straight?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I think if we guarantee $50 million in payment to all of the ships, then I think a lot of the ship owners will go. I think they'll go.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

I.

[Buck Sexton]

Do we have any ship owners who can verify that?

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

My.

[Buck Sexton]

Do we have any ship owners out there that will verify my idea on this? Look, there are different. Now, my concern is if you want me to. To play this out. Yes, a ship could get sunk. That's not ideal. So far that hasn't happened. So far that hasn't happened.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

It's not ideal.

[Clay Travis]

He's. He's so blase about this. He's like ecological disaster. Oil everywhere, the whole straits. No big deal.

[Buck Sexton]

Ships sink all the time. If Iran sinks a ship, you remember. Hey, hold on. Ships sink all the time. I mean, I lived in the Caribbean. There's ships everywhere. I mean, this is. Read a. Read a history book. Ships. Clay. This isn't a.

[Clay Travis]

We're not talking about a pleasure yacht with three spring breakers on it. We're talking about an oil tank.

[Buck Sexton]

When the cruise ship hit the coral off the coast of Italy, it was like a $400 million ship.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And the guy called him and he was like, get the back of two of your ship. What are you doing?

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, I. That was probably the worst thing that's ever happened to a cruise ship. They're like, what. What's the worst thing that could happen? Your captain could hit coral and sink the whole thing. I mean, I'm not counting. You don't want.

[Clay Travis]

You don't want one of the Super Mario brothers to be the one in charge of your ship. That's what you.

[Buck Sexton]

Not a good idea. But the ship risk is. Is why I think no one is going. So I think if we took the. The financial risk away, that you would go. And honestly, if Iran then hits a ship, right. If they attack a ship and they create an ecological disaster, that's not good. But also, even the environmentalist would then be on the side of Trump because Trump's going to be saving all the animals. And Iran has just polluted the entire. The entire Strait of Hormuz with oil and gas. So I think we are creating a situation where Iran is clearly the terror actor if we're saying we want commerce to occur. Now, my concern is still, once the ships leave, they don't go back. And that then creates a larger issue because the whole point of the straight existing is for people to go both directions.

[Clay Travis]

That is kind of the whole issue, Clay, because just if we get the ships to go once, that's almost like a rescue operation. The point is they need to be willing to come back. If they're not willing to come back, the straits not open.

[Buck Sexton]

But I think we buy ourselves a lot of time economically if that. If those ships are able to come through, oil and gas drops 20 bucks overnight, and we then have a full month probably before most of those ships are completing their. Their transit and have to make a decision. Okay, where do we go get oil and gas next? And my hope would be that we can start to produce more oil and gas in many parts of the country. I was reading about Venezuela right now. Things are going really well. Every company is now flooding into Venezuela. How much more can we increase production there? How much more can we increase production in the United States? UAE has said we're gonna drop out of opec, meaning they can produce more. That's the story there. I'm just telling. I'm trying to solve the energy issue in America, and I think my insurance idea has some legs here.

[Clay Travis]

I wish we could get you on, like, the little handheld radio that the captains of the ships always have and have you give a little pep talk to all these tankers. Be like, look, not all of you are going to make it, but price of gas gonna go down 20 bucks overnight if a few of you do. So have at it boys. You know what I mean?

[Buck Sexton]

We got a bunch of callers who want to weigh in on this too. Cause I, I, I think this is a brilliant idea. Sometimes the line between genius and insanity, as many people know, is a very fine one.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Tim in California. You got a flaw with my idea. Fire away.

[Caller - Insurance Agent]

It's actually a fatal flaw. So insurance guy here, long license insurance agent, not terribly active. But I do know that on any insurance policy, homeowners, commercial, especially maritime insurance covering ships. I hate to cut the legs out of your theory that has legs, quote unquote. But acts of war are always specifically excluded. So I'm not sure the United States.

[Buck Sexton]

Well that's, that's my whole point. I'm solving the problem of acts of war being excluded by the United States in a time of war, saying we will be the insurer instead of private insurance companies which are not willing to take this risk.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

See.

[Caller - Insurance Agent]

So we should be on the hook for something an insurance company wouldn't cover.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I mean the theory that the first of all, thanks for the call. I don't think very many people out there like, you know who I love insurance companies.

[Clay Travis]

So, hey, hey, be nice to our insurance agents, sir. We love our insurance agents.

[Buck Sexton]

I will just say the point of this is Clay is just getting testy

[Clay Travis]

because that guy's like, I sunk your battleship.

[Buck Sexton]

And Clay's like, I mean, he's. He called in thinking that he had exp. He's actually addressing what I recognized as the flaw and the solution that I provided is the regular insurance companies will not cover this. So we should. Which will.

[Clay Travis]

You basically want to bail out. You want to bailout of oil tech

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

First time on the program. We're joined by Daniel Perez. He's speaker of the Florida House of Representatives. He's the third Cuban American speaker of the Florida House. We have some stuff we want to talk to Speaker Perez about right now. Thank you so much for being here, sir. Good to have you on.

[Daniel Perez]

It's my pleasure. How are you?

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

We're good.

[Clay Travis]

So let's jump into it. We got a couple things here. First off, we have a little bit of foreign business and then we want to talk to you about some Florida business. You are Cuban American. You are certainly tied in here as my near neighbor in South Florida to the Cuban American community right now. There's not a lot of attention. Trump mentions it sometimes from the White House that he's got plans for Cuba. What is the situation of the island and where do you think the administration should go with this as it pertains to Cuba?

[Daniel Perez]

Well, look, it might not be on the national spotlight consistently, but it is down here in Miami and we're a diverse community down here. But obviously, as you know, mostly Cuban Americans or Cubans that have to leave the island, my parents included, my parents had to leave in 1969. The revolution took over in 1959. And since then, the island has been decimated by this regime that has taken away human rights, amongst many other things, from the people of Cuba. Where we stand today is Cuba's at an all time low. There is no oil, there is no energy, there is no food, there is no health care. There is absolutely nothing on that island. You have to think about it for a second. For someone to be willing to get on a raft and swim 90 miles with nothing but a compass in the middle of the night. How dire does the situation have to be? And we've had thousands of people risking their lives in that exact situation for almost 100 years. And so where we stand here in Miami, and I know that I speak on behalf of all Cuban Americans, where we stand is it's time for this regime to pick up their bag and get the hell out of town. Because that is, that was. That is, that is land that belonged to the Cuban people well before they went in there and took it away. What Trump will do with this is up in the air. And we have some of the greatest advocates having this conversation on behalf of the United States and on behalf of all Cuban Americans. And obviously that's led by Secretary Marco Rubio, who's one of our own and was the first Cuban American to be speaker of the House in Florida.

[Buck Sexton]

What do you think Marco Rubio is telling President Trump? Obviously, Secretary of State? I saw that he was also an addition to all the other jobs that he has, acting as a DJ at a Miami party wedding over the weekend. What do you think Marco Rubio is telling President Trump right now? And what does a solution look like from your perspective?

[Daniel Perez]

And by the way, I did see that video of him DJing at a wedding. The man can.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

The man can do it on.

[Daniel Perez]

He can do it all, if only he can play a little bit of quarterback. The Dolphins could use them. And I'd like.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Daniel Perez]

But look, I think the solution here has been consistent, and that is pressure. You have to absolutely squeeze the neck of this monster and you have to cut the head off the snake. It's the only way that you can succeed. And I think that's exactly what President Trump and Secretary Rubio are doing. The sanctions have to double down, the flights have to stop. The money going into the island has to stop. And the problem that you have is many, many Cuban Americans that are here today say, well, I still have family there and I still want to send resources. And what the regime has done, and this is, you know, it's, it's disgusting, but what the regime has done is they have now replied to the United States by saying, we are going to open up enterprise. We are going to open up free market in Cuba so that Cubans can open up a restaurant, a store, a supermarket, and actually have interstate commerce amongst Cubans. To be quite frank, that's crap. That's not true. Because the way that the Cuban government works is in order for you to go ahead and open up, let's say, a restaurant, a certain percentage has to be paid into the government's pocket of profit before you can even actually open those doors or run those doors. So there is no free market. There is no capitalism, there is no competition. It is all owned by one umbrella patriarch entity that's owned by the Cuban government. And from there, the smaller enterprises are able to, quote, unquote, open up their own businesses. But that's bullcrap. None of them are actually able to have their. But it's a facade that the regime has put in place in order to appease the Americans. The problem that they have is that the Americans, led by Secretary Rubio, know the truth. And so what I expect Secretary Rubio and the President to do is to continue to squeeze the neck as tight as they can until the Cuban people themselves have finally realized, we are done. We are done starving. We are done having to listen to this regime that has taken away our own freedom. It is time to act. And hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.

[Clay Travis]

We're speaking to Daniel Perez, speaker of the Florida House. Something related to all this, of course, we also have down here in South Florida a very large Venezuelan American population. Now, the situation in Venezuela, Mr. Speaker, seems like it is trending in the right direction. Del C. Rodriguez is in charge after the capture of Maduro. Sounds like she's at least playing ball with America in a way that is encouraging. What do you see and what. But what's that looking like for the Venezuelan American community?

[Daniel Perez]

Well, first and foremost, I think the President deserves a lot of credit for making the tough decision, which was the right decision and that was taking out Nicolas Maduro. That was the right decision that I don't think any other president would have had the courage to do. And so I think that has to be mentioned first and foremost. As far as the current state of Venezuela, Venezuela today is in a way, way more prosperous situation than they were a year ago. I don't think anyone can debate that. The Venezuelans can't debate that. I mean that they are in a phenomenal place. Their economy is booming like never before. And all of that credit goes to Secretary Rubio and President Trump. Here's my concern with Venezuela. My concern with Venezuela was a comment that was made by Delsey in the last, I say, seven or eight days when she was asked on when is the next election to duly elect, based on a democratic provision, the next president of Venezuela. And her response was, I don't know when that's going to happen. And that's concerning because without fair and accurate and open elections, then eventually they'll just go back to what they know best, which is that socialist ideology that got them in this place to begin with. That started with Hugo Chavez and eventually was ran by Nicolas Maduro and potentially by Delphi. Unless we have free and fair elections to eventually put a new leader in Venezuela that can have a true democracy and bring capitalism back to this country, I have no doubt that Secretary Rubio and President Trump aren't going to allow her to get away with that and elections will have to take place. But what I didn't like is it was the first time that I saw her not in line with what the American vision is. We care about our elections. We treat our right to vote, our civil right to vote as such a sacred opportunity. And in the rest of the world, they don't see it the same way. Our hope is that Venezuelans and really Delphi sees it the same way. And I have no doubt that the president and the secretary are going to get her there. But that first response was something that wasn't music to my ears.

[Buck Sexton]

Tell us about the new map. I know that the Florida House and the Florida Senate have put in place a new map that that certainly is going to potentially lead to more Republican seats. What should we know about that map, and what do you anticipate the result of the map will be?

[Daniel Perez]

Well, so this is a map that was passed by the House and eventually passed by the Senate and recently signed by the governor. It was a map that was drawn by the governor. I don't want to speak on behalf of the governor's office, but they were the ones that drew it. But I don't think this was a map drawn on to give certain seats to certain parties or certain parts of the state. I just think that, you know, we believe based on the recent court rulings that we have an opportunity to have a conversation on redistricting. On a mid decade redistricting. And so that's exactly what we did. You know, where that ends up, I guess only the voters will be able to tell us on how many seats may go, may go one way or another. And we won't know that until November. But, you know, I think that we did our job. I think the last redistricting cycle was under a census that, that may have potentially been flawed and, and Florida has had an influx of people moving here really because of the way that we've been running our government for decades. I think, you know, it's very easy for elected officials today to take credit for the, the prosperous economy that Florida has. But you know, we have to take this back for decades. You have to talk about a Governor Bush, you have to talk about a Governor Scott. Those were the ones that kind of started putting the wheels in motion. When you talk about Rick Scott and the amount of jobs that he brought into the state, that was unprecedented. We haven't seen it since. As a matter of fact, right now our job, our unemployment rate is going up in the state of Florida. That never happened on the Rick Scott. And so, you know, I think that sometimes people want to focus on the now, but I always have to give credit to how we got here. And so now we're in this place to where a lot of people are moving to Florida. They want to live here. Obviously our tax structure is one of the best in the country. We have a great economy and so people want to be here. So I think us having the conversation on redistricting was the right one. And I applaud the governor for drawing the map and, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of lawsuits down the pipeline and we'll see where this ends up.

[Buck Sexton]

You're ahead of the Florida house, but Buck and I saw you most recently at the Indiana Miami game where Indiana won the national title. You mentioned the Dolphins. Who are you more optimistic about, the Miami Hurricanes or the Miami Dolphins?

[Daniel Perez]

Well, here I have a problem with this question because I'm a Miami kid that went to Florida State and so I'm rooting for the Seminoles every day of the week, no matter what.

[Buck Sexton]

Let me start you with that.

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This is even a better question. This is a better question. Who is going to win a title first, Florida State or Miami? Will Florida State be in the playoffs or Miami? The Dolphins be in the play. I'm not even going to ask about Super Bowl. Poor Miami Dolphin fans. You guys are still fighting for Dan Marino. But, but who will make the playoffs first. The Dolphins or the Seminoles?

[Daniel Perez]

I'm going with the Seminoles, but damn, they both stink right now. We have no hope. Neither team has hope. I think the Dolphins are gonna have a rough season, but we're hoping for the best. You know, Steve Ross does a great job of owning the team and he's put some money into the team and hopefully he can turn it around with the new management there. But but I'm a Seminole at Harden. I'm a believer in Mike Norvell. I just, I love football across the board, but there's absolutely nothing like watching college football on a Saturday morning. But it's better when the Seminoles are

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

winning, in my opinion.

[Clay Travis]

I think you and Clay just became best friends. Daniel Perez, speaker of the Florida House of Representatives hey man, come back because we want to talk to you about more Florida business and also as the Cuba situation unfolds. But thanks for being here.

[Daniel Perez]

Take care, guys.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. People want to weigh in variety of different different topics. Let me run through some of these as we finish off our number two of the Tuesday Edition Grant in North Dakota. What you got Grant?

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

Hey Clay, these bombastic views and statements of just sending people in the ships to get cheaper stuff. It's getting to be disgusting. And another point I referenced that.

[Buck Sexton]

Hold on, hold on. Disgusting. What is disgusting about trying to get gas prices down?

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

Because it's not reality, Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

Why is it. Why is it not reality to say the number one reason why ships are not going through right now is fear. From a business perspective, what is the fear based on? That the ships may be attacked and that the business owner might lose their ship. Why do people have insurance on the ships in the first place? It is to ensure and provide security in the event of disaster. So if you analyze them, if that is clearly the issue, why the Strait of Hormuz? The ship owners are clustered right now at Dubai. If you're trying to solve the problem, and the number one problem is fear of loss, which is the reason why people have insurance. Why is the government not stepping in and providing security in the fear of loss not a potential solution to the issue?

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

The government, the United States government keeps subsidizing the rest of the world. The American taxpayer, that's who it is, is subsidizing the entire world and not.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, pause. Pause for a. Pause for a second. If insurance is provided, theoretically, the ships start to move again and the price of oil and gas collapses. So the average American consumer, if the insurance is put in place, would actually benefit substantially by a decline in oil and gas prices. This is a very logical idea. You might not like it, you might think it's not going to work, but the actual mechanics of a solution for a problem. If you believe that $100 barrel of oil and gas is a problem, how do we fix it? This is a solution that could very well fix it.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

The big CEOs of this country have shipped out everything overseas to make us rely on all these. I mean, look at pharmaceuticals, fertilizers, what?

[Buck Sexton]

But hold on. Actually, that doesn't apply for oil and gas because thanks to policies like the ones that have been put in place by President Trump, we actually are energy independent, which means that we produce more oil and gas right here in the good old USA than ever in the history of the nation. And we are currently pumping and producing more, more oil and gas right now than ever in the history of the nation.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

Right, Clay? But there's a disconnect here because you're always referencing we're producing the most. Yet the consumer, the legal American voting citizen, is paying the most. And they're going to be frustrated and come the midterms.

[Buck Sexton]

So, okay, so hold on. You're calling in or hold, you've called in and you are complaining about Oil and gas prices. I'm trying to help get oil and gas prices down. So what is your solution,

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

Clay? You're. You're, you're willing to just shove people out and kill them? I mean, that seems bold.

[Buck Sexton]

So what. What, okay, you're upset about oil and gas prices. What is your solution, Clay?

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

We have to have more domestic stuff produced here, Manufacturing oil. You know, you guys touched on the reference of so you want.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, but hold on. We're at an all time record high of oil and gas production, right? So you want us to go to an even higher level of oil and gas production? I don't disagree. I think President Trump is trying to put in policies in place to make that happen happen.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

Look, North Dakota is what, number one or two in. No, it's not number one. Texas is in oil production, yet we pay some of the highest fuel prices in the country, yet we're pumping it out of our backyard. That's the problem. It's the disconnect of what the Americans are paying. And you can tell them all that, hey, stock market's up. The oil is all record production, but they still are not earning. They're not feeling it because of groceries and all this. It's all tied together this huge.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, but. So oil and gas prices on February 28th were down substantially. Now they're up.

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

I guess I get that.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, so what. Okay, so you've called in your. What is. What is your point? I guess,

[Caller - Insurance Skeptic]

Clay, it's. It's on this show. You're being a little disconnected with just. Let's just send them in. Let's get this stuff. Let's insure it. We're gonna go. We're gonna get cheaper gas prices. It's a good cheerleading thing. And don't get me wrong, like, we all want that, right? It's just the captain of the ship is in charge of those lives and if they say no, they're not going. Hey, you want. You think you're going to train up a bunch of cap to go just into a war zone? You're not going to. That's not going to happen.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, thanks for the call. I'm not really sure. Producer Greg, did he have a point? I'm not really sure what his. What his take was there.

[Clay Travis]

I don't think he. I don't think he's an SEC football. That's the real.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the bottom line.

[Clay Travis]

I think he's like a big, like a big ten fan or something. And he's just poking you

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