The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 – Conversation with Katie Miller

Date: March 20, 2026
Host: Clay Travis
Guest: Katie Miller
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This hour features Clay Travis in conversation with Katie Miller — former Trump White House press aide, wife of Stephen Miller, mother of (soon) four children, and host of the Katie Miller Show Podcast. The discussion moves across several topical issues: the crisis with unpaid TSA agents during a funding standoff, the ideological bias in popular AI platforms, the impact of Tesla self-driving technology (especially for parents), family security concerns, and a tribute to Chuck Norris. The segment includes frank commentary, practical insights, and moments of humor.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. TSA Agent Crisis and Government Funding

[02:47–05:49, 22:41–34:33]

• Clay opens the hour focused on growing airport chaos as TSA agents and customs officers go unpaid due to a government funding impasse, blaming Democrats for the stalemate.
• Katie Miller emphasizes the frontline impact:

  "It's really a shame to see the Trump derangement syndrome strike Democrats so stridently that they will [refuse] to do their basic responsibility, which is fund the government... It's absurd that they're getting a paycheck and those on the front line aren't." ([04:28])

• The discussion highlights broader effects: Secret Service funding, impact on customs, and national security.
• Multiple TSA employees call in to describe low morale, management-induced pressure (threats of AWOL), and a “trickling effect” as agents consider quitting.
  • Caller/Agent: "It's bad at this point... we're being threatened that if we don't show, [we'll] possibly lose our jobs... 60 to 70% [of us] are living paycheck to paycheck." ([26:14])

Notable Quotes

• Clay Travis: "You shouldn't require people to work without pay. We ended slavery." ([27:54])
• He advocates for personal accountability for Congress:

  "Absolutely, every congressperson and senator should not get paid during a shutdown — I think it would end almost instantaneously." ([30:22])

2. AI Bias and Parental Concerns

[05:49–11:03]

• Growing dependency on AI platforms prompts concern about ideological bias baked into the technology.
• Katie Miller details the current landscape:
  • There are four major AI tools: Gemini (Google), Claude (Anthropic), ChatGPT (OpenAI), and Grok (xAI/Elon Musk).
  • She argues that San Francisco–based engineers program their political beliefs into these models, creating “woke” outputs that may not align with conservative or centrist values.

  "Those are the people who want to trans your kids. Those are the people who want to push CRT in our schools... What you're seeing is when you input something and you're getting out an answer... it's tinged with the ideology of those who are programming it." ([06:41])

• Highlights potential dangers if AI replaces liberal teachers but is trained on the same ideology.
• Only Grok, Miller says, gives "unbiased" answers on controversial topics.

  "If you're looking at something like... is the United States on stolen land? Is it okay to have white pride?... Only Grok is going to give you those truth-seeking answers that are unbiased in nature." ([08:50])

• She calls on conservatives to "vote with your dollars" to incentivize more balanced AI.

Notable Quotes

• Clay: "If it were not for Grok, we basically would just have a bunch of left-wing chatbot competitors, right?"
• Katie: "Absolutely... it's very scary because you don't know all the use cases of AI yet." ([09:41])

3. Tesla Self-Driving and Family Safety

[11:03–15:30, 42:22–46:02]

• Both hosts extol Tesla’s Full Self Drive, especially for parents and less-confident drivers.
• Katie Miller:

  "As a woman, categorically women are the world's worst drivers... The greatest change I've made to my life is getting in full self-drive... I find myself getting in almost accidents less." ([12:06])

• Full self-drive’s main annoyance? Strict safety protocols against distracted driving.
• Clay and Katie address safety stats and real-world comfort for families:

  "The data shows that a Tesla in full self-drive is seven to nine times safer than a car in which you're driving yourself. Over 93% of accidents are caused by user error." ([13:21])

• Katie shares that her mother, initially resistant, now prefers self-drive and “never drives it” herself.
• Clay answers a caller concerned about animal hazards (deer in rural Alabama) — noting how Tesla’s AI improves with every new data incident, even outperforming humans at four-way stops after outages ([42:54]).

Notable Quotes

• Katie: "You don't know how great it is until you do it." ([14:24])
• Caller/Robin: "How is it at defensive driving... when stuff suddenly pops in the road?"
• Clay: "I think it’s better, honestly... It followed the law better in terms of taking its turn than most of the drivers did." ([42:54])

4. Family Safety and Political Life

[15:30–17:36]

• Katie offers a personal update: The Miller family has moved onto a military base due to ongoing security threats.

  "There's nothing like the ability to watch your children run outside and play freely in a field... The threats haven’t dissipated nor has the energy of the left to try to rile up those who want to cause harm to my family." ([15:30])

• Expresses gratitude for military community, the Trump administration, and the chance to serve again.
• She highlights the persistent danger facing high-profile families involved in conservative politics, referencing “Gavin Newsom’s office” as a source of online antagonism.

5. Podcast Promotion

[17:09–17:36]

• Katie plugs her show:

  “The podcast is on YouTube. It's on X at Katie Miller Katie Miller Podcast, we're on Spotify and Apple... We just released a great episode with Todd Blanche — I pretty much grilled him on everything relating to the Jeffrey Epstein file.” ([17:13])

6. Chuck Norris Tribute and Humor

[38:35–41:24]

• Clay marks the passing of Chuck Norris at 86, playing classic “Chuck Norris facts”/jokes and a cut of Norris explaining his shift from Democrat to Republican:

  "I used to be a Democrat, but unfortunately the Democrats went too far to the left and the Republicans moved into their position that the Democrats were 40 years ago."

• Clay recalls the viral meme era and Norris’s internet legacy:

  “Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups. He pushes the earth down beneath him.”

Timestamps for Important Segments

• TSA Pay Crisis and Political Fallout: 02:47–05:49, 22:41–34:33
• AI Ideology and Parental Advice: 05:49–11:03
• All About Tesla Full Self Drive: 11:03–15:30, 42:22–46:02
• Family Security & Political Sacrifice: 15:30–17:36
• Katie Miller's Podcast Promotion: 17:09–17:36
• Tribute to Chuck Norris: 38:35–41:24

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On AI Bias:
  "It's tinged with the ideology of those who are programming it... Those are the people who want to trans your kids."
  (Katie Miller, 06:41)

• On Government Shutdowns:
  "You shouldn't require people to work without pay. We ended slavery."
  (Clay Travis, 27:54)

• On Tesla Full Self-Drive:
  "A Tesla in full self-drive is seven to nine times safer..."
  (Katie Miller, 13:21)

• On Political Family Sacrifice:
  "There’s nothing like the ability to watch your children run outside and play freely... The threats haven’t dissipated..."
  (Katie Miller, 15:30)

• Chuck Norris Legacy:
  "Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups. He pushes the earth down beneath him."
  (Clay Travis, 38:35)

Tone & Style

The show moves briskly and candidly with humor, strong partisan opinions, and practical advice. The tone is conversational, at times playful (Tesla self-driving, Chuck Norris), sometimes serious (TSA agent struggles, family safety), and always direct. Katie Miller is energetic and pointed, Clay Travis brings a mix of newsman’s urgency and parent-to-parent relatability.

End of Summary – Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, March 20, 2026