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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. Thanks for being here with us, everybody. And last week, you will recall with far more important stories in our sites, the suspension. Important word there. Suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, a an unfunny late night comedy host, became a cause among Democrats. Republicans are embracing cancel culture, the First Amendment, all this stuff. I have a few thoughts on this because first of all, the latest reporting is that Disney is considering bringing him back. So this would be a suspense. That's why the suspension versus cancellation is a very interesting part of the conversation. I would also add that, Clay, the whole, oh, my gosh, the fcc, all that, all that stuff that we were hearing last week. Well, if they're just going to bring him back, what does that mean about all that FCC talk? It means that it was Disney's decision in the first place, Disney's decision in the last place. It is a private company that is making this choice now. I wonder what they're going to do here. And Clay, you understand that I want you to lay this out for everybody because I don't, I don't follow the machinations of corporate, of the, of the corporate suite of media as closely as, as you do. Right. And the mergers and acquisitions and all that stuff. You know, who owns who. I still, I have to remind myself who owns NBC again and who bought Paramount and where's Viacom and all this and Discovery Channel is what. And you know, these things are always in flux. You have a very good handle on that. You follow that stuff pretty closely. Before we get into that, I would just point out though, the, the, oh my gosh, Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled. We should all be so upset about this. And of course, Stephen Colbert and others were jumping on this bandwagon. The guy from Ozark, I saw him saying something about it. What's his name? Bateman. Right, the actor.
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Clay Travis
Jason Bateman.
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Buck Sexton
Jason Bateman is actually, I think he's a very good actor. So it's always kind of a bummer when you see somebody like, can't you just be the good actor and not say the dumb things? Uh, but he, he spoke out on this. You know, look, people are allowed to speak out on it. I'm just allowed to say I don't, I don't care and their opinions are irrelevant. But Douglas Mackey, I'm not sure who this fellow is. You see this? He put out on Twitter. This went very viral, Clay. I'm sorry, I must have missed it. I haven't caught up on the Latest news. Did PayPal cancel Jimmy Kimmel's personal account? Did Chase and Bank of America shut down his account? Did Twitter ban him? Did Facebook suspend him? Did Stripe shut him down? Did the FBI open up an investigation into him? Did protesters force him to evacuate his studio? Did they chase him to his house and force him to evacuate that too? Is there an entire ideology centered around the idea that Jimmy Kimmel can't be allowed to speak anymore, Et cetera, et cetera. He went into all of this and I just say, yeah, their version of cancellation versus the so called right wing version of cancellation are also very different things. But you tell me there's more going on here even than just is Jimmy Kimmel an unfunny jerk?
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Clay Travis
Yeah. My basic takeaway here is unless you advocated for Roseanne Barr and unless you advocated for Gina Carano and I'm specifically referencing Disney corporate decisions based on speech, then I don't want to hear a word from you about Jimmy Kimmel. Now I, hi, I advocated aggressively for Roseanne Barr. I don't think anybody should be canceled for a tweet. I, I, I, I really don't in the creative space. Cause I think it blows up eventually on all of us. I even defended a guy that I think is a total moron, Keith Olberman, that has said all sorts of crazy things in my opinion about Charlie Kirk. And I defend this company, I Heart, which says, hey, we want to put out every single type of audio known to man, just like in music. I mean, leave aside political opinions. I some of you may really care a ton about rap music. Others of you hate it. Some of you love country music, some of you love classical music. I Heart provides it. All right, we should, I think the company give everybody every option out there, a big buffet of audio choices and you should be able to dive into it. Even if I think people like Keith Olbermann or moronic. And I think on his podcast, I'm pretty sure he called me a white supremacist. You can say a lot.
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Buck Sexton
I'm pretty sure he's called me, he's called me tug sex butt, which is.
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Clay Travis
Very mean actually to his credit. That's actually pretty funny. But My point on it is even inside of the same company, there are people that are taking shots at us. And I'm totally fine with it because there may be. Some of you may find this shocking. There may be people who don't like Buck or, or me, even though I think they have awful taste.
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Buck Sexton
Um, very sad.
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Clay Travis
It's very sad. And my mom and Buck's mom, we just. They don't understand how you could ever have that opinion. But some people do.
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Buck Sexton
Does your mom still kind of want to fight everybody who doesn't like you online? Because my mom totally does too. It's such a mom thing. I'm like, don't worry about it, Mom. She's like, I will finish them.
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Clay Travis
I'm like, you're sitting. I told you about when I first started writing that my mom got in the mentions underneath my articles to defend me. Oh, yeah, you did not tell me that back in.
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Buck Sexton
That is awesome.
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Clay Travis
Back in 2005, like 20 some odd years ago, I was writing and they started to allow all the mentions underneath, you know, articles. And my mom created an account and went in and was defending me. And I think it was. I think it was my sister. She was like, hey, just so you know, mom is in the comments.
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Buck Sexton
Your mom is a great lady. My mom would totally do the same thing, by the way, like, if she hasn't done it, she totally would. Because, you know, we're always their little boy. You know what I mean?
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Clay Travis
Created an account to respond to people saying mean things about me in the comments underneath my articles. And I had to call. I was like, mom, you know, this is great, but it's gonna turn into a story. If you're in the comments all the time.
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Buck Sexton
This is a top ten clay anecdote. Like, this is up there with the zero people showing up to the book signing. Like, this is a great clay story. I like this one a lot, Mom.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, mom was in the comments and, you know, and just defending me, you know, like, my son is a really, I mean, Israel. I mean, every mom out there can appreciate it. And I was like, mom, I appreciate it. But you, you can't do this because it's going to turn into a. A big story in the years ahead if you're always in the comments fighting with people. And I've seen this from other moms sports message boards. Every now and then, somebody's mom, you know, the kids getting attacked because now playing quarterback or whatever. Well enough, and mom will just go out. And I want to give her credit because I thought this was really funny. Laura Rutledge, super talented ESPN employee, did an interview recently where she said her husband Josh, who was a baseball player, played for the Red Sox, other teams, major league baseball player, really talented guy that people would, would rip him. And she created a burner account. She came clean. She was like, I just, I had a burner account on social media where would just go in and defend my husband because people would be like, oh, he went eight over four. And she's like, did you see the great catch that he made in center field? Which again, I think sometimes what we do is harder on the periphery, the people who are not us, than it is us ourselves. Much like if you are an athlete on the field and it's a stressful moment in a game, you will often say, yeah, I didn't feel the stress because you control the outcome in some way. So but mom or dad, girlfriend, whoever it is, sitting in the crowd, sister, brothers, they feel the intensity and the nervousness more than the person on the field. I think that's true for what we do too. And I know the periphery, the penumbra surrounding us, the people and family feel that. But. So that's a true story. Mom probably listening right now. I appreciate her stepping in. Now on your point on media, I love all this stuff. And again, if you didn't defend Roseanne, if you didn't defend Gina Carano, when Disney canceled both, despite the fact that they had far more successful shows they were a part of in the Roseanne show, whatever it was called, the Connors, I think, and in the Mandalorian, which at the time was the most popular show on Disney plus, and I'm told from my kids and my wife who watch it was fantastic, really good show. They canceled Gina Carano. I don't want to hear a word about Jimmy Kimmel. But I think what's being actually at play here, Buck, that nobody's talking about, there's multiple different media angles. First of all, Disney is trying to buy the NFL Network. In order to buy the NFL Network, they're going to have to get Trump approval. I think Bob Iger saw this, saw an opportunity to just curry favor with the Trump administration by benching Jimmy Kimmel, potentially kicking him to the curb. And I don't think it was about Kimmel at all. I think it's about the NFL. Other part, Nextar and and Sinclair are two major affiliate groups of abc. A lot of people think, oh, if I watch ABC that's owned most of us actually watch on an affiliate station. My, for instance, ABC affiliate in Nashville is owned by Nexdar. I think those guys are also trying to curry favor over some of the decisions that are going to be made by the Trump administration over the next few years. And they see it as an opportunity to curry favor by kneecapping Jimmy Kimmel as well. So while everybody's focused on Jimmy Kimmel and what he said, which was wrong and which I think that he should have to apologize for the way that it was conveyed because it wasn't a joke, it was the background of a joke. Uh, and so, but I think this is the bigger story that's going on is there is a desperate desire for the Disney Corporation to buy the NFL Network. They want to get Trump approval. And then I think also the affiliates are seeking Trump approval as well. And Jimmy Kimmel in that way is just kind of a, just kind of a random anti Trump zealot that they don't really, they're not committed to because they're making no money on.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, but final, final answer here. Are they bringing Jimmy Kimmel back?
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Clay Travis
Yeah, it's a big decision.
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Buck Sexton
I think they will, I think they will as well. And I think that that's going to show a lot of bad faith to people that feel like Disney finally did something to show respect to the half the country that Disney has been effectively, from a corporate level, spitting on for a long time now.
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Clay Travis
Yep.
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Buck Sexton
I think Disney is playing with fire here more than they.
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Clay Travis
I agree with you. I. And I think Disney has managed to put themselves in a position where they may well be boycotted in both directions simultaneously.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. That everybody.
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Clay Travis
That's right. When you don't. This is a great line from Charles Barkley. And, and I think it's, it's great lesson for life. No matter what you do, if you worry about trying to make the people who don't like you like you, then the people who do like you won't like you anymore. And so much of social media is trying to make people who don't like you, oftentimes operating in poor and bad faith, like you. And if you worry about that, if you worry about that, then you're going to end up in a situation where the people who do like you and respect you will no longer like and respect you either. And I, I think Disney, frankly, Bob Iger has. He made two really good decisions. He bought Marvel, he bought the Star wars and then. And Pixar. Three good decisions, basically. Since then he's been an awful CEO. You go look at Disney stock and I bet a lot of you Own it. It hasn't gone up in a decade, a full decade. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars as CEO. I think he's destroyed the brand to a large extent that Disney built. And I don't think that he has tended to create great content. He's become more political than creative. And that's a bad combination.
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Buck Sexton
I also just think to what you were saying a moment ago and about the, the sage advice from Mr. Barkley, which I would, I would say that that's very, very true. Part of being an adult, I think part of maturing is just understanding that people are going that, that you're going to have people dislike you for reasons that you should be proud of and therefore it shouldn't bother you at all. Like people are going to be mad at you for telling the truth. And you have to embrace that. And I mean that in a very general sense. I mean that in your day to day life, not just in politics, people will be mad at you for saying what is true. People will be mad at you or not like you for calling them on their stuff or refusing to play their games or whatever it may be. If everybody likes you, you are, you are not doing what you need to do. That is another truism of life.
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Clay Travis
I'll tell you one other thing. Make the circle that people that you care about small. And that's going to sound mean, but what I mean is if you can't control anything, like I care, and I say this all the time about my three boys and my wife. That's in my household, that's the things that I'm directly involved in. I can't control a lot of what everybody else does. And so much of life is focused on people that you have no ability to actually try to make good choices. You worry about, you get concerned about, right? And you can't, you don't have any inability to impact it.
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Buck Sexton
Like when your boys said that you were an unk for wearing quarter length socks. Let me tell you, I'm in the blast radius of that enough that whenever now I go through my drawer, I find those socks that are low. No, I don't want to be an un. I don't want the Travis boys to find out that I'm dressed like that. So you know what I'm saying? You got to pay attention to who you pay attention to.
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Clay Travis
The boys light me up all the time for being an unk. And I just look around and I'm like, you know, uncs are right about a lot. And that's why? I'm fine taking the shrapnel here for being an old guy who wants things to not change.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Rolling through a variety of your reactions. Let's hit a couple of these right here. Michael in Surprise, Arizona, listening on KFY I Radio says he was at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. Michael Good morning gentlemen. Pretty emotional day yesterday.
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Buck Sexton
Me, my fiance, we live in Surprise, Arizona, about 15 minutes from the stadium.
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Clay Travis
We were blessed, overwhelmed to get in, get amazing seats, met people from all around the world.
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Buck Sexton
Videotape Live the moment Chris Tomlinson Hallelujah.
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Clay Travis
In a cappello that's going viral now.
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Buck Sexton
Everybody has videos of it. To experience that in person, feel the spirit, was awe inspiring.
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Clay Travis
It looked amazing on television. Buck and we know a lot of you listening were There we started off the show talking about how spectacular the event was. Cindy in upstate New York, Democrat, who called in. Thanks for listening.
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Cindy (Caller)
Hi, guys. Love the show. 63 years old Democrat my entire life. And I was listening to you talk before about Kamala, and I was just struck by the similarities between the reason why Hillary didn't win and the reason Kamala didn't win. And that's because they were burdened by weak men. And, I mean, thinking back to when Hillary ran, all I could think about was all of the scandal that happened with Kathleen, Willie and Juanita Broderick. And poor Monica.
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Cindy (Caller)
I mean, that girl, her life was ruined.
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Clay Travis
Cindy, by the way, we're about to go to a break, but how long have you been listening?
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Cindy (Caller)
Years.
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Clay Travis
And so you voted for Trump in 2024 even though you've been a lifelong Democrat?
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Cindy (Caller)
Absolutely.
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Clay Travis
Okay, well, thank you for the call. And I'm sorry. I would like to. If Cindy wants to hang on. I'm actually kind of curious. I do think we have a lot of people. Heck, I voted Democrat in my younger. That have seen the light more so of what's going on. I mean, I'm not buying Kamala Harris's book on the day of release or anything.
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Buck Sexton
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
On the front lines of truth. All right, welcome back in, everybody. Clay and Buck here, and we, we're talking about the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Clay and I agree that we both think he's coming back, and I think his ratings will be even worse than they were before. I know you might say, oh, but there's a snapback from everybody rallying to his side. No, what he said was really gross and really dumb. And anybody who is honest would recognize that. And it really shows you his mentality. Again, it's the government shouldn't be Shutting it down. The government's not shutting it down. ABC took him off the air for a little bit. A suspension for what he said is a slap on the wrist, quite honestly. Yes, sir.
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Clay Travis
No, I think one other wrinkle here that isn't talked about enough is next Star and Sinclair don't have to carry the show. So there is a world where this show comes back to your point, Buck, they suspend him and he comes back and he's only on 50 of the top hundred markets. Right. And the other networks are deciding that they want to do that is the affiliates are deciding they're going to carry something else. So that's another element of this that I think a lot of people haven't dove into. Disney can't just snap their fingers and say, he's back. The affiliates have to agree to carry this show. And I'm not sure Nexar and Sinclair, absent some significant impact, are going to do that. Just FYI.
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Buck Sexton
Did you. Did you want to hear more from Cindy in Upstate New York, Clay? Because she's holding.
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Clay Travis
Well, I, I was just curious how she listens to the show. She says she's a Democrat. She voted for Trump. I was just going to ask Cindy, who's still with us. Cindy, so do you still consider yourself a Democrat even though you voted for Trump in 2024?
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Cindy (Caller)
I kid with my husband. I'm an enlightened Democrat and he accepts that as Republican.
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Clay Travis
So you would say in 2028 you would go back in as an independent voter in some way, or do you think you now have made the switch?
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Cindy (Caller)
I think I have made the switch. It's just a matter of putting pen to paper.
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Clay Travis
Well, that's interesting. That's kind of what I wondered.
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Buck Sexton
I think we make up. Cindy, great to have you in the audience. Thank you for listening. And I just say we make a lot of converts here on the show. You know, that's. That's part of the job here. We bring people in, we bring those Democrats in. We. We bring them some sanity and some fun, and all of a sudden they are voting Trump. So that's. If we're doing that, we're doing a great job. All right, back to who is putting the pressure, or rather, where is the pressure coming from? Where's the decision coming from on Jimmy Kimmel and his status? Here is press secretary Caroline Levitt, this is cut 12, saying, look, this is ABC's deal. Play it.
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Caroline Levitt (White House Press Secretary)
The decision to fire Jimmy Kimmel and to cancel his show came from executives at abc. That has now been reported and I can assure you it did not come from the White House and there was no pressure given from the President of the United States. And how do I know that, Kayleigh? Because I was with the President of the United States when this news broke in the United Kingdom. We were enjoying the beautiful and spectacular state visit that was put forth by the royal family and the Prime Minister of the uk, Keir Starmer. And I actually brought this news to President Trump's attention. He had no idea this was happening. It was a decision that was made by ABC because Jimmy Kimmel chose to knowingly lie to his audience on his program.
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Buck Sexton
The only. The only thing I would say here is, I don't think he's fired. I agree with everything Caroline's saying. I think, though, he's coming back. Meaning that it was a suspension, which they said it was an indefinite suspension initially. They left themselves this wiggle room. I think he's going to be back on the air. And then also all these people who are like, all the government tyranny, really. Jimmy Kimmel gets suspended for like a week, I think.
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Clay Travis
So here's the other thing. How does Disney play this? A lot of people in our industry are morons. It's not going to shock you, but a lot of executives are also morons. If I were looking at this the way that I would play it for Disney, because I think the larger prize here is the NFL Network, which Disney is trying to buy. To me, what I would say is I would leak if I were Disney. We have allowed Jimmy Kimmel to come back, but we have requested that he apologize publicly for getting the facts wrong and say, hey, this was a left winger who killed Donald Trump, and we've asked him to give a donation to Turning Point usa. I don't know if Jimmy Kimmel would be willing to do that. But then you turn the conversation into putting the onus on Jimmy. Does that make sense? And then Disney can say, hey, we offered an opportunity, a pathway for him to come back, and he refused to accept it. Because I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. If I were Jimmy, I don't think that I would want to bow down, even to Disney, and make that apology and public donation.
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Buck Sexton
This is what I think actually pushed the cancellation. Just want to be clear here. People that were all, oh, my gosh, you know, the FCC and everything, no, please, ok. The government tyranny, that's all nonsense. The Trump administration hasn't forced anyone's hand. They just said this from the, from the White House press secretary, from her pulpit But I would say that on this issue, Clay, it was, and this was reported by the Wall Street Journal, it wasn't just the initial statement from Kimmel. It was that he wanted to go on air and like double down on it and do more damage. And they said, no, no, no, no, no. And that's when the decision was made to pull him because then there'd be no way, I mean, when that, you know, when that wound was still raw in the public's mind of what he said, it was so gross and such a lie and so terrible. And then to basically say, yeah, I'm standing by it. How do you do, how do you do clean up on aisle Jimmy when that's the situation. So the suspension, I think was meant to protect him. It's like Odysseus being tied to the mast so that the sirens don't bring him onto the shoals.
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Clay Travis
That's a amazing. Yeah, that's amazing mythological analogy there. I would say here too, I don't know that Jimmy would do that. And so then I think the story can turn to, he was suspended, they said, in order to return we need you to do the following. And he's unwilling to do the following. And as a result, I think you end up in a situation where he may not come back. And what I would suggest is another part of this. I think that they should start to have guests of different perspectives on. If I ran ABC News and I saw that Trump won the election, I would say to every ABC News or front facing current event show, whether it's comedy or the View. You know, the View had one conservative guest on last year, Buck, and it was Liz Cheney, who I don't even think you can count as a conservative because she.
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Buck Sexton
That's like having the Bulwark podcast guys on to be like, yeah, how awful is Trump as awful as you think he is or as awful as we think he is.
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Clay Travis
But shouldn't if you're actually serving the country on the public airwaves? And I would say the same thing about CBS News with Colbert, although they've already announced his show is moving on, shouldn't you have people of a variety of different perspectives if you're going to be political now, if you're going to do a Johnny Carson style show and all your or Jay Leno and all you're really doing is kind of lightly poking fun at each direction. I don't think the politics guess, make sense or matter. But Colbert only has on left wing politicians. The View only has on left wing politicians. How can you have a show called the View, which does not have a variety of perspectives from guests. I would just submit to you that that seems very basic. If I ran Disney to make that choice. Of course, I obviously don't run Disney. They'd be in better shape if I did.
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Buck Sexton
Frankly, I would offer to you that there is unintentional truth in advertising from the View because it is not views. There is one acceptable view that all of those ladies and all of their guests must hold. So it is in fact the view solo, singular, one narrative. That is all that is allowed there. So in a sense, they are far more honest about their authoritarianism than a lot of people would realize.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, look, I think it's going to be super fascinating. By the way, speaking of super fascinating, Adam Carolla, who listens a lot out in la, is going to call in. Top of the next hour. Good friends with Jimmy Carolla. They disagree with Jimmy. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel. They disagree. Adam Carolla and Jimmy do on almost everything. What does he think should happen? What does he think is happening? What has he heard might happen? He'll talk with us next hour about just this.
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Buck Sexton
I respect when people stand up for their friends. I've never met Jimmy Kimmel, so I just analyze him from the perspective of public statements and his public work. I don't know the guy, but I always say this too. Like there are some people I have worked with who are Democrats who say some pretty crazy things. I will not attack them. So I, and I tell everybody that just to be. Just so I'm upfront, I'm transparent on it. And I can appreciate that the friendship between Carolla and Kimmel extends even to. Because, you know, you do find out who your friends are when things get tough in the public eye. You know, if you're not a public person, you find out who your friends are. Actually when things are really good because you just have to look at someone's face. Do they. Are they happy for you? When things are great, that's just generally true. But in our business, where you're public facing when the heat is on publicly, that's when you can really see because there's because little words of support behind the scenes, that doesn't cut it for your friend. Right. It's like, are you with me or not?
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I mean it is our business. People are nasty. You know, I value friendship over, over politics or anything else. I think you do too. It's actually pretty rare for what I.
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Buck Sexton
Think if you, if you don't have personal loyalty, what do you have is always a question. And I think it's something that you must, you must practice as a principle. It's not, you can't pick and choose. If you're picking and choosing whether or not personal loyalty matters to you, you don't have it. That's, that's the thing about it. It's either you do it or you don't do it. So I can, I can respect that perspective. Fortunately for me, I've never met Jimmy Kimmel, so I can trash him and have fun with it. So there's that. So don't worry, don't worry about that. I'm not going soft here, everybody. I'm not, I'm not going weak on you or. Look, every single day in America, we lose close to 3,000 unborn babies to abortion. For those of us who believe that life begins at the moment of conception, we see this as a tragedy. One in four pregnancies ending in abortion, even in a post Roe v. Wade era in America. So we need to save lives as fast as we can right now. And I mean today, tomorrow. That's what the team at Preborn is doing. In fact, they have been doing this for years and their mission is as urgent as ever. This year alone, Preborn clinics have helped to save 38,000 babies by their efforts, their resources, the love and support they give to moms that come into their clinics. Their mission is very straightforward. Give moms that support and love so that they bring little boys and little girls into this world. They bring those babies into this world. And it is incredibly important work that they're doing. Would you make a tax deductible donation to Preborn Today? So many of you are pro life in your convictions, But Action Matters $28 would help provide a life saving ultrasound to a mother who is in crisis. And Preborn is going to help. Preborn.com buck is the website you can go to donate preborn.com buck or from your phone. This is really easy. Dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound two five zero. Say baby. Sponsored by Preborn two guys walk up to a mic.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A little bit of news. My world's colliding. I know a lot of you listen in the state of Alabama, you're also basketball fans. Auburn men's basketball coach Bruce Pearl has announced that he is stepping down as the head basketball coach at Auburn. His son Stephen will take over as the new head coach. Now I know both of these guys really well. I like them both personally. The reason this could be interesting politically is Bruce had been looking at the idea of running for Senate in the state of Alabama to potentially take over the seat being vacated by Tommy Tuberville, the former head football coach of Auburn. We got him on this show quite a lot. Current senator, likely next governor of Alabama. Why do I bring that up? Bruce is a very prominent voice for Jewish Republicans. There is not to my knowledge in the Senate a high profile Jewish Republican voice. And Bruce has been very outspoken, very impacted by the amount of anti Semitism that he has seen certainly on campuses. And he is a patriot. He's a very pro America guy. I don't know if he's going to put his next foot forward, next step to go into the Senate. But stepping down now as we get ready for the start of the basketball season would suggest maybe that's possible. So we'll let you know. But that could be a story worth following that has just broken in the last 15 minutes or so.
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Buck Sexton
Indeed, we will continue to follow.
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Clay Travis
You got a cut if you wanted to play.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna play. Cut 11 here, guys. A little throwback before we talk more about the Kimmel situation here. When we were back in 2020 and the leader of the free world was kicked off of social media, in fact, all social media, including Pinterest, if we remember, Donald Trump and a lot of us like Parler got shut down just because, because there was this freak out, nobody on the left, no Democrats that I can remember, not a single one had a problem with it. And in fact, some like Jimmy Kimmel, we're celebrating this. Play it.
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Jimmy Kimmel (Clip)
Trump has been suspended from Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and even Snapchat. But don't worry, Mr. President. There are still plenty of apps you do have access to. You still have Spotify to drown out the sound of millions of people cheering as you leave. You still have Pet Finder, since you're on the outs with Mike Pence. You have Cameo, which will soon be your primary source of income. You can still play Among Us, a game where everyone accuses each other of being against them. You'd love it. You could play Pokemon Go. You and Donnie Jr. Can hunt Pikachus together. And when no one else wants you, don't forget, there's always your old friend, the Domino's Pizza Tracker.
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Buck Sexton
You know, mean spirited, mean spirited, nasty, nasty, nasty jokes. Clay. I do not, I do not have a proof. I do not like.
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Clay Travis
Well, so here's my take on this and I think it's true for Jimmy Kimmel and everybody else. You can't scream First Amendment if you don't stand up for people who disagree, who you disagree with often.
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Buck Sexton
Right.
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Clay Travis
Gina Carano. I come back to it because I think it's a compelling case. Gina Carano. Not one word from anybody in Hollywood. Hardly. That I remember on a very successful Mandalorian show, fired over social media posts. Roseanne Barr, the most successful, I believe, show at the time, when she got fired.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, these are, these are fair, Clay. You're calling out these two. Palmer Lucky, the CEO of Andrew Anduril Industries. And yep, he got fired basically from Facebook because he donated $10,000 to a. He's a billionaire who donated $10,000 from it to a Trump PAC or a PAC that like, like Donald Trump, over $10,000 donations. Totally legal, totally fine. To a current and future president. They fired him from Facebook for this? Yeah, like the guy who invented, you know, what was his name? The guy who did. Was it Firefox or Mozilla or one of those, you know, he got, you know, booted out of his own company because he donated to a, you know, anti gay marriage bill thing in California. Like this has been going on forever is my point.
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Clay Travis
Oh yeah, well, look at Megyn Kelly. I mean, kicked to the curb by NBC News and then their keeping a lot of people on. But Disney in particular, to me, those are easy, analogous situations because they don't have one speech policy. And so if you're not willing to stand up for people in your industry who get fired for unpopular opinions, then I'm not willing to hear you try to stand up and play martyr when the same thing is happening to you. So again, one of the things I wish we had more of was people held accountable for hypocrisy. Instead, there is a huge cottage industry for people who can argue the opposite sides of entire equations based only on who is making the argument. And frankly, I think that audience overwhelmingly is leaning to the left right now.
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Buck Sexton
Clay Democrats. If Democrats didn't have two sets of standards, they wouldn't have any standards. All right, we got Adam Carolla up next.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
To go off road? Maybe it's up to 600 plus miles of range?
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Clay Travis
America is changing, and so is the world. But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval.
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Clay Travis
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm.
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Tristan Redman in London, and this is the Global story.
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Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.