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Clay Travis
Edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Both Buck and I love American history. We are huge history nerds. We regularly talk about it a ton and we are joined by someone else who is a major history aficionado. She is Linda McMahon, Secretary of Education of the United States. And we are now celebrating America 2:50. And we've been talking about America 2:50 quite a bit on the program even though we're early into the year. And Secretary McMahon, we appreciate you coming on. Right now you are announcing a presidential 1776 award. Historical literacy is a major issue among young people in the United States today. Tell us what this competition will do and what you're hoping it will create.
Linda McMahon
Well, thanks so much for having me on. And I appreciate the fact that you are both such historical buffs and put such emphasis on it, because I can tell you it's not been emphasized much in our country, as we see, unfortunately, through our scores across the country, when kids are tested on their civics or historical knowledge. And so this is part of the President's initiative, this 1776 award, in conjunction with the celebration, our 250th birthday for the country. And so to generate interest, he wanted to create the civics award. So the registration is open right now for students who want to enroll. And what they do is they're going to sign up to take the world's impossible Test. They have 90 minutes online to answer 4,000 questions. That's called the impossible test. And I would think it would be. But how many they get, not how many they answer, but how many they answer correctly, of course, will determine the winner in each round. So it's a three round competition and the top winners are going to receive the top, very top winner will receive a scholarship of $150,000. And second place is 75,000 and third place is 25,000. And so, you know, it's conducted a little bit like a national spelling bee. There'll be the first round of competition and then we'll have regionals and districts and then three winners will come to Washington D.C. in June of this year and we'll have the final competition and then the awards will be made. So it's created a lot of excitement, so we're very happy. We're sending notices out to teachers, to organizations, to schools, to principals, to everyone, and getting it online so that as many people can be notified that it's a fun thing to do with a great potential reward so they can go to Presidential 1776 Award.
Clay Travis
Have you thought about giving media this test? Because when you're describing this, I actually think this would be real. I would like to take it. I know I'm not eligible, but 4,000 questions, 90 minutes. I think it would be really fun if you got some media out there that cover the the White House and beyond. I would take this. I think it would be interesting to see what kind of scores people might post.
Linda McMahon
Well, Travis, I think you should just launch your own initiative to do that.
Clay Travis
This is not a bad idea. Buck, would you take this test? Would you sit at 90 minute American History 1776 test? I think I would take it.
Buck Sexton
It would be you and me. You and me versus Don Lemon. And.
Clay Travis
I would, I would put you and I on the 1776 Test as a team up against any duo in media in the country. I think we would win. Do you think anybody could beat us that actually has a day show or my normal humility.
Buck Sexton
Secretary McMahon disappears on this one clay and I would smoke any of the libs out.
Clay Travis
I think so, yeah.
Linda McMahon
It would be the Clay and Buck civics challenge. I like this.
Clay Travis
This would be fun. I don't think anybody would actually take us on, but I will take it. Secretary McMahon, we will reach out for you and see if we can set up a time to take this and see if we can smoke everybody out there.
Buck Sexton
I also want to ask you, as you're, as you're running a very large, a very large agency of the, of the government, what are you doing with education these days? It's a big thing. It's massive. It's huge. Secretary, how are you going to fix education in America under the Trump administration?
Linda McMahon
Well, you know, the president's executive order is to return education to the states and take bureaucracy that exists in Washington out of our education process. So, in other words, instead of, you know, all of the money that is appropriated by Congress, flowing through the Department of Education and into the states, which does create more regulation, more red tape, et cetera, it is my goal to move the different agencies, or departments, if you will, within the Department of Education to other agencies of the United States government, which is where they existed before there was a department. You know, if you guys, I know you guys know this fact. But the Department of Education was not established until 1980. And since that time, we spent $3 trillion on education just throwing more money at the problem and watched our national scores continue to decline. So we're clearly doing something wrong. And the president believes, and I agree with him, that the best education is that that's to going closest to the child, that it is controlled by the state superintendents and district superintendents and teachers and most importantly, parents who have then insight into what is being taught to their children. So the dismantling, if you will, of the department and moving it to other agencies will make it more efficient. And I do believe that there will be greater satisfaction with what's going to be happening with education once this job is completed.
Clay Travis
One of the things that I think is most interesting and maybe extraordinary when it comes to educational accomplishment is what the state of Mississippi has done. They, and I know you probably have studied it quite a lot. I don't think most of the Audience out there has gotten become aware of it, but basically they went back to committing, and you can maybe explain better than me, but to old school style teaching and abandoned many of the, quote unquote, newfangled methods of instruction for children. And as a result, the kids in Mississippi, many of whom are drastically under underprivileged, you know, relative to socioeconomic status in the rest of the country, have seen their results skyrocket. And now other southern states in particular are copying them. What are they doing? Are you encouraged by what you've seen there? And is this a good example of the laboratory of state education giving us things that could work, for instance, in California, where the results are not good?
Linda McMahon
You're exactly right in that this does prove the point about states being laboratories, because this is innovation that occurred at the state level, not at the federal level level. This is not mandated by the federal government. And what the state of Mississippi did, and it's actually called the Mississippi Miracle, they adopted the science of reading. And it is exactly what you said it was, going back to the way reading was originally taught. Now, of course there are some updates to the process, et cetera, but it's based on phonics. It's based on sounding out words and sounding out combinations of letters so that kids can learn to read. They're not just doing sight reading of whole words or concepts, which is what's really been, I think, the downfall of our literacy numbers throughout the country. And if children cannot read by the time they finish the third grade, then they are never going to be able to be successful because they'll just get farther and farther behind. So the science of reading as it has been adopted, has proven to be so successful. And sometimes this is done in connection with what are called classical schools that are doing exactly what you just. Clay, I think it was you. What you were describing is going back to sort of the way schools were taught, you know, before. Now that's working in many communities. Some communities, you know, have different kinds of schools. You know, there are charter schools, magnet schools, they're religious schools, there's homeschooling and so in micro schools. And what I'm doing is touring all 50 states. I've been to about 30 now, and I have visited all of these many kinds of schools. I've even been to the Alpha School in Austin, Texas, which has its first two hours of instruction in the morning through AI, which is really like an individual tutoring session. And then the rest of the day are spent on applying the applications of what they learned. So My goal at the end of this term, or as we are turning education back over to the states, is to develop a toolkit of what has worked in most of these states and to just hand it over to the different states and say, look, these are the things that I've seen that work. This is how they work. This is who's doing it. Please be in contact with them if you so choose. And you know what, governors and state superintendents, they're pretty competitive. No governor likes to see another state get ahead of him, you know, in terms of the success, especially, you know, with kids in education. So I think we're going to have a good impact. The beneficiaries of what we are doing will be our children and schools, you know, in general. And I'm very excited about what we're doing.
Buck Sexton
Secretary of Education Linda McMahon with us now. And Ms. Secretary, when we saw the Minneapolis ICE protests, there was all this school closures, administrative and teaching staff going out to protest. Why is it that this just happens and there seems to be some acceptance that the school system is like the protest shock troops of the far left in this country?
Linda McMahon
Well, I can tell you, if you just look at those protests from a common sense standpoint, I, as a parent, if I were there now, I can't stand in the shoes of the parents who were there. But I would think, why is my child not in school that day? And if we look at what the scores are in Minnesota, they're not sterling at all, if you will. I would want my children to be in school learning how to read, how to do math, how to solve their science problems, and not out on the street in the bitter cold protesting and objecting to something that they might not even fully understand. I think it's outrageous. And if that were to continue, I can tell you that there would be investigation by us, and those schools could be in jeopardy of having lost federal funding.
Clay Travis
Secretary of education Linda McMahon one more time. I'm going to try. Maybe you can have somebody on your team reach out. I would like to take this test and see how I would do. But we encourage so many people out there with kids and grandkids that are committed to history and want to learn more on the 250th anniversary of this country to compete. That competition has an incredible award, as you just told us. How can they do that one more time?
Linda McMahon
Well, the. The enrollment period is now through February 21, about a couple of more weeks. You can go online at presidential1776award.org to register and then shortly thereafter, they'll be taking the test. And it will be a 90 minute test to see how many 4000 questions they can answer correctly. And these are just historical fact questions. You know, this is. If anybody has any concerns that they're partisan politics. They are not at all. This, this is just based on facts and history.
Clay Travis
Awesome.
Buck Sexton
Secretary of Education McMahon, appreciate you making the time for us today. Thank you so much.
Linda McMahon
Lots of fun. Thanks for your desire to participate. We're gonna make this happen, Clay.
Clay Travis
I'm in. I'm looking forward to it.
Buck Sexton
All right, my man's. He's gonna swim from Alcatraz Island. He's gonna take the impossible history test. You know, we gotta get Clay jumping out of planes for our YouTube channel soon.
Clay Travis
I haven't taken a history test, I, I don't think, buck, since the AP US History Test back in 1997. So we'll see whether the old brain can retain any of, of the, of the knowledge from the test back in the day.
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Clay Travis
I.
Buck Sexton
Think that it's largely like a glorified babysitting service for a lot of kids. It's effectively daycare for kids who are too old to be in daycare and the elimination of standards and all these things that go on. The notion that children in the first, second, third grade should be in school like I was from 8am until 4pm that's just so that parents have daycare. That's not good. You're not learning for eight hours a day as a kid at that age. So anyway, I have a lot of. I have some kind of radical ideas on this. And I talk to people, friends of mine who are conservatives who specialize in education reform. And I think that there's a. Now is a time for people to really focus on what do you need to know? What are the best ways to learn what you need to know? And the just one size fits all mass public education approach that a lot of Democrats like is. Is a bad. Well, they don't actually like it. They want their kids to go to the fancy public school and they want everyone else to go to the failing public schools. But it's not a good. It's not a good plan. So it's a big topic, but I think there's a lot of opportunity. You can watch lecture series from Yale University Classics professors online for free.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
How different is that from being in the class? You know, like, at some point, what are you not. What do you not have access to?
Clay Travis
I. This is. I mean, there's a huge topic of discussion here. It's one thing I. I am the Mississippi miracle that we referenced. In an ideal world, the educational system would be dynamic. We would see lots of different states trying a wide variety of things to try to figure out how to educate kids to the best of their ability. Unfortunately, largely, the teachers union just argues that they need to be paid more and work less. And that does not inure to the benefit of your average kid. And the difference between, everybody knows this a really good school, public or private. I was a public school Kid K to 12. My kids went public school K to 6, and now they're in a private school. But the difference between an okay school and a great school is seismic.
Buck Sexton
I mean, you and Nate Borgazzi have got to be like the pride of the Nashville public school system, buddy. You know, to two hometown kids who made it good.
Clay Travis
I think Nate went to a private school, but he didn't go to like a super. I don't want to throw Nate Baragatzi under the bus, but I don't. He didn't go like, look, it's Nashville. A lot of the private schools were not super elite either. So I don't want to throw him under the bus. But yeah, I went public school K to 12. What do we got here? I got to tell you about Pure Talk and how you can save a bundle. Cell phone service no longer expensive. You could switch yourself or cell phone service to PureTalk. Save as much as $60 more or more a month. 700 bucks in a year. If your current Cell phone company at&T T Mobile or Verizon make the switch, save the money while not sacrificing any quality. PureTalk service, same towers and network with the same 5G nationwide service. 25 bucks a month. Pure Talk will give you unlimited talk text, plenty of data. American Wireless company, US based customers, customer service. They can save you a thousand dollars over the course of a year. It's Incredible. Just dial pound250, say Clay and Buck. You get 50% off your first month. Same phone, same phone number. £250 say Clay and Buck. Couple of other different things that are continuing. We talked about the surge in Minnesota being dialed down. We have talked about the. We haven't even mentioned this. Maybe we can get into it. Thanks to Linda McMahon. By the way, we're going to talk to our buddy Jesse Kelly at the top of the third hour. Grand jury has refused to inde. Indict Democrats. We've talked about this in Washington D.C. and that is the advantage that Democrats have. They basically have a kangaroo court in Washington D.C. which is 95% Democrats and they regularly get better treatment than Republicans will. But this story I thought deserved way more attention because unfortunately it is continuing the acceleration of extremely violent acts by people who are trans. We had Minneapolis, this, the church that was shot up by a trans individual. We had Nashville, the religious school that was shot up by a trans individual. And we now have had, unfortunately in the British Columbia province in Canada, 10 different people, including the shooter himself, who committed suicide. I think it was a. A him, right? That identified as a girl. And nobody will really have the conversation. Wait a minute, what's going on here? To what extent are all of these drugs that these people are being pumped full of? The rate of trans violence is off the charts. That doesn't even include the shooting of Charlie Kirk, which allegedly happened by someone who was dating a trans person and was offended by Charlie Kirk's perspective. On trans people. That trial is scheduled to occur this year at some point. But listen to how even the media is covering this. Cut 8. A Canadian journalist says that, that the shooter was a him. Right? Am I correct in this buck? This is a dude that identified as a girl that was trying to flip to become a girl. And he ID'd as a girl. This is a boy and was clearly mentally unstable. But this is what it sounded like when they were trying to figure out, hey, what do we even call this person? Cut eight. Officer Romina, DEA from Global News. Could you please expand a little bit on the suspect?
Linda McMahon
Was he known to police?
Clay Travis
Were there any red flags regarding his mental health?
Romina, DEA from Global News
So a suspect is identified as an 18 year old female by the name of Jesse. We have a history of police attendance at the family residence. Some of those calls are, are, were, pardon me, related to mental health issues.
Clay Travis
Okay, if you had trouble hearing that a little bit, the, the actual journalist says that this is a guy, which is biologically accurate, who did the shooting. And then the police, the deputy commissioner there of the police department says actually no, the shooter was female. So he corrects the reporter who to her credit, I think it was a woman speaking, was actually correct that this was a male shooter.
Buck Sexton
It's a guy. It's a guy who just committed a mass murder. And it's a man by. It's 18. It's 18 year old. OK, so this is a, this is a man, a young man who decided that he had girl pronouns, which is wrong, not true. It's a guy and went in and shot a whole bunch of people and then he killed, let me see, killed a 12 year old boy, a 13 year old boy, a 39 year old teacher shot all these people. At what point do we as a society have a conversation about the extreme mental illness that is behind transgenderism and the fact that it should be and has always been treated as a mental illness that deserves and necessitates support and mental health intervention instead of people placating and playing along. That's one part of this. The other part of this is you are in a real dystopian situation when the cops are lying to you about who does a mass murder. That Royal Canadian Mounted Police guy, a, I mean, you know, I know Canada. God, it's become so left wing. It's become so crazy over there in so many ways. That guy saying that this is a woman, a female, a female is actually what he says. He's lying. Yes, he's just lying to everyone. I mean this would be like saying, hold on a second. The guy who did this, you know, if a, if a, you know, a white kid went into a school and shot up a bunch of kids and you stopped during the press conference. Hold on a second. He was black. Everybody would say, you're a crazy person. No, he's a white kid and vice versa. I'm just saying if you describe the race of the assailant clearly incorrectly, people would think like, there's something wrong with you. This was not a woman. This was a man. This was a guy with a penis who went in, who was crazy, who was clearly very mentally ill. But on the Internet and on TikTok and whatever, there's all these people telling that, oh, you, you're actually a girl. Oh, and then, by the way, all the people that don't affirm that you're a girl, they want to erase you. They're committing a genocide against you. They're the bad people. It's crazy crap leads to violence. Everybody, enough is enough.
Clay Travis
And by the way, if you're out there and you're saying, ok, maybe this poor police officer's just fumbling around, he doesn't know exactly what he's doing. No, he says they're respecting the preferred gender pronouns of the school shooting suspect. Before, before we play this, this is. Cut nine. He's a mass murderer. Should we respect him in any way for anything? My argument would be no, he's trash. He is evil. And we have allowed him to be mentally deranged and coddled in some way, his mental derangement. And again, I don't think it's coincidental. Minneapolis, Nashville, now in Canada, mass shootings going on. Because not only have we coddled these people and told them, oh, whatever gender you are, you're actually correct. But worse than that, to Buck's point, we have convinced them that anybody who says that's not true is committing a genocide against you. So you have mentally unstable people that are convinced that if they aren't affirmed in their gender that that's a genocide being committed. And so they go out and start trying to kill people. Unfortunately, this is becoming far too common. Cut nine.
Romina, DEA from Global News
We're not hiding it. In fact, you're the first media to ask the question. I will say this. We identify the suspect as they chose to be identified in public and in social media. I can say that Jesse was born as a biological male who, approximately, the information that I have approximately six years ago, began to transition to female and identified as female both socially and publicly.
Clay Travis
This is crazy. I mean, this is.
Buck Sexton
I mean, imagine. Imagine if after, you know, like, one of bin Laden's Al Qaeda guys went in and blew up a plane or something. Imagine the FBI saying, hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on a second, everybody. He preferred to be called Sheikh Osama.
Clay Travis
You know what I mean?
Buck Sexton
Like, I don't think that you need to be weighing in with the wishes of the mass murderer right now. Like, I don't think that that's something that the police should be so concerned with here. It just shows you the grip of psychosis, manufacturing delusion. Everybody, here's the book. There's a whole chapter on this. It's called Menticide. It goes back to World War II. It goes back to breaking people down in authoritarian regimes. Part of it is, get them to say that we don't know what a penis is. We don't know what a vagina is. We can't tell anything. We're all so dumb. Please get your copy of the book. It comes out on Tuesday. If you buy it today, it'll be there waiting for you on Tuesday when it comes out. This is a whole chapter in the book, though, and I had to write about this. And people told me, by the way, writing about this transgender stuff, Clay, I mean, I hate to bring it up. And look what happened to Charlie. We're talking about this stuff. I mean, you. You're facing down the most insane part of the left these days, and in some ways, the most violent and the most, you know, the craziest. And you just. You got to do it.
Clay Travis
Just.
Buck Sexton
There's a reason why they're all in on this.
Clay Travis
If I started to identify myself as a black female, it would be racist of me to call myself black, because we saw that happen with Rachel Dolezal, the white chick, pretending that she was black, as the head of the NAACP back in Spokane, Washington. It's super racist for me to identify as black, but you would have to accept the fact that I'm female. This is Democrat Party orthodoxy right now. If I said, hey, I've decided from now on I want to be a black female, the Democrat Party would have to say, oh, my God, that's super racist. But it's great that you're now a woman. Which do you think is a crazier transition? Which do you think is a more substantial leap? Me changing my race. People find out, by the way, all the time that they're not the race they thought they were or me changing my gender. Everybody out there knows it's gender. I have more in common as a dude with black, white, Asian and Hispanic guys than I do with women. But the Democrat party orthodoxy is they would have to say, congratulations, you're now a woman. But simultaneously they'd have to tell me it's racist for me to claim to be a black woman.
Buck Sexton
It's.
Clay Travis
It, it's bonkers. And Buck, this, I think, does matter. People out there say, well, why does this matter? How? Let's pretend this person was actually on the loose and they were asking for help. Do you describe him as a dude, which he is, or do you say, we're going to accept his preferred pronouns? This is a woman on the loose. I mean, all of this is crazy. And the fact that you would be concerned with what someone who committed a mass shooting thought about you or not respecting their pronouns enough. I, I just. What we should be having a conversation about is this. To what extent do all of these drugs that these trans people are loaded with buck? To what extent does that accelerate their mental degradation and, and make them more prone to violence? That's a real question we should be asking. We talked about this for 12 and 13 year olds. The data reflects that their bones don't develop fully when they start getting these trans treatments. That's a big deal. Not to mention sterilization. But what does it do to adults? Does it make trans people more prone to violence? I don't think it's crazy to say. The trans community is tiny and we now have three mass shootings basically in the last year and a half that have been propagated by trans people who were on drugs and, or being treated for trans related issues. Shouldn't we be asking what is the impact of the drugs that we're pumping into their system and does that make them more prone to violence? To say nothing of the fact that certainly telling them that people who disrespect your preferred pronouns are committing genocide against you, that certainly accelerates, I would think, the justification of violence also.
Buck Sexton
We just need to figure out whether as a society, we really have a choice. Clay. We can have these things happen, or you can have people more readily involuntarily committed for a period of time. To be clear, I'm not saying that all trans people should be committed, but this individual, I think they should get mental help, mental health assistance. But a lot of people, you know, veterans come back with ptsd, they get mental health assistance. Mental health assistance is something that shouldn't be stigmatized and people should have, have, you know, ready access to. But this person, when the police are coming to Your home. By the way, this trans shooter killed his mom and brother as well, or sister. Killed the mother and sibling as well. Before went to the school. So killed his own family. This guy, this 18 year old, killed his own family members and then went to the school. So this is somebody they all the sign. The cops started going to the house. All the signs were there. I bet if you looked up the laws in British Columbia about, or, you know, for Canadian federal law or whatever they call it, getting this person to be put into a psychiatric facility until there was a real effort to bring them into reality, I bet it's almost impossible. It's basically impossible in America, Buck.
Clay Travis
You know, we talked about the filters and how they tried to make Alex Preddy look better in msnbc. Canadian media are using AI filters to try to make the shooter look more female.
Buck Sexton
Of course. Yeah.
Clay Travis
I mean, this is utterly insane. Utterly insane on all levels.
Buck Sexton
I wouldn't get into it, but with a very prominent podcaster. I got into an argument over dinner once. He said, said, but you can't tell the difference with the trends. And I was like, no, man, I can always tell the difference. Like, I'm not, we're not doing this thing where I can't tell. Can you tell the difference in a photo necessarily? No. In person, when they're like, hi, you know, yeah, I can tell the difference. Ok. I, I've always been able to tell the difference. It's getting harder, but I can tell the difference in person in video or in photos. You know, that's a different thing. All right, look hard turn here. Talking about things that are really good for you and that'll really help you and supplements that will make your daily regimen easier for you to adhere to and get more out of every day. That's where chalk comes in. I love chalk. I've got a subscription to Chalk Daily and Chad Mode. The first helps me have all the necessary supplementation to get the most out of my day. And the second man gives me that energy boost to get through a workout. For the guys in this audience, Chalk's male vitality sack helps replenish testosterone levels, which naturally decreases. We age. It's a supplement bundle, and just like all chalk products, the ingredients are all natural. You don't have to worry about what you're putting in your body. Chalk also offers a female vitality stack because men and women are different. Formulated for the ladies. Learn more about both@chalk.com that choq.com when you subscribe with my name Buck as your promo code, Chalk will pack a free $99 bag of Chalk lit powder with your first delivery. That's choq.com. use my name, Buck, as your promo code. Foreign. I gotta say, I don't even, I can't even name a lot of the holding, I mean the redraw music that we've got going. This is new stuff for me. I've, I, you know these songs. I mean you're kind of whipping Post by the Almond Brothers.
Clay Travis
I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get exposed in musical knowledge in general. I was bragging about how well I would do on the 1776 presidential test that Linda McMahon was on, talking about which I'm going to take. And I will share the results with all of you and you can compare me against top high school performers all over the country. I think I'll do okay. Music I am tone deaf. I am knowledgeable for the late 90s and early 2000s or mid-90s, 90s, early 2000s when I was, you know, much more akin, much more knowledgeable about the musical related world. Not as much now anymore.
Buck Sexton
Here, can you. I'm gonna carries. I've got James Speed here, wants to say hi. So I'm gonna have a little baby moment. It's okay. I gotta make sure I get a good grip on him here. Oh, there he is, Clay.
Clay Travis
He's hefty. What does he weigh now? He's in the 90s.
Buck Sexton
I don't know, My shoulders hurt from picking him up all the time. He is 10 months old. Well, I guess yesterday actually. But 10 months old. Here he is, He's a happy smiley guy.
Linda McMahon
Hey, what's up, buddy?
Buck Sexton
We break, we have the baby.
Clay Travis
For those of you on radio, by the way, we should mention we're on satellite radio now, channel 123. We appreciate all of you listening on satellite radio that started this week. But YouTube, if you want a happy chubby baby, then you have to go on YouTube to see the video of Buck holding a happy chubby baby right now.
Buck Sexton
If AI doesn't take all of our jobs in some years to come, he can say that he did his first radio show when he was like 10 months because he's actually, he's actually getting some sounds out here into the mic.
Clay Travis
Yes, he is super cute and he is a chunk and you can check him out on our YouTube page. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton. When we come back, Jesse Kelly will join us. He's an awful venal human. No telling what he'll be into. We will break all that down for him and for you. And we're looking forward to it. Should be fun.
Buck Sexton
Yes. He's a redhead, by the way. Yeah, redheaded son. He's. He's definitely. He's a full blown ginger. I mean, he's a redheaded guy.
Linda McMahon
Hey, there he is.
Buck Sexton
He's got American flags on his little onesie, though. Clay.
Clay Travis
Love it.
Buck Sexton
This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
In this episode, Clay and Buck dive into the state of American education, historical literacy, and current education reform efforts, highlighted by an interview with Secretary of Education Linda McMahon. The conversation also examines broader cultural issues around education, mental health, and societal trends, all delivered with the hosts' characteristic blend of sharp opinion and wry humor.
(01:37 – 06:19)
Notable Quote:
“This is part of the President’s initiative, this 1776 award... to generate interest, he wanted to create the civics award. So the registration is open right now for students who want to enroll.”
—Linda McMahon (02:41)
(06:19 – 12:09)
Notable Quote:
“The president’s executive order is to return education to the states and take bureaucracy that exists in Washington out of our education process... We’ve spent $3 trillion on education just throwing more money at the problem and watched our national scores continue to decline. So we’re clearly doing something wrong.”
—Linda McMahon (06:37)
(08:14 – 12:09)
Notable Quote:
“They adopted the science of reading... going back to the way reading was originally taught. Now... it’s based on phonics... that’s really been, I think, the downfall of our literacy numbers throughout the country.”
—Linda McMahon (09:16)
(12:09 – 13:31)
Notable Quote:
“I would want my children to be in school... not out on the street in the bitter cold protesting... I think it’s outrageous.”
—Linda McMahon (12:37)
(13:31 – 14:46)
Notable Quote:
“These are just historical fact questions... If anybody has any concerns that they’re partisan politics. They are not at all. This, this is just based on facts and history.”
—Linda McMahon (13:59)
(15:13 – 19:04)
Notable Quote:
“It’s largely like a glorified babysitting service for a lot of kids. It’s effectively daycare for kids who are too old to be in daycare and the elimination of standards and all these things that go on.”
—Buck Sexton (16:56)
(21:30 – 32:33)
Notable Quotes:
“At what point do we as a society have a conversation about the extreme mental illness that is behind transgenderism and the fact that it should be and has always been treated as a mental illness that deserves and necessitates support and mental health intervention instead of people placating and playing along?”
—Buck Sexton (23:55)
“You’re in a real dystopian situation when the cops are lying to you about who does a mass murder.”
—Buck Sexton (25:42)
(29:32 – 32:33)
Notable Quote:
“To what extent do all of these drugs that these trans people are loaded with... does that accelerate their mental degradation and make them more prone to violence? That’s a real question we should be asking.”
—Clay Travis (31:22)
(32:33 – 34:02)
(36:43 – End)
Memorable Exchange:
“He is 10 months old... He’s a happy smiley guy.”
—Buck Sexton (37:08)
“We’ve spent $3 trillion on education just throwing more money at the problem and watched our national scores continue to decline. So we’re clearly doing something wrong.”
—Linda McMahon (06:37)
“Mississippi Miracle... They adopted the science of reading... going back to the way reading was originally taught. Now... it’s based on phonics.”
—Linda McMahon (09:16)
“It’s largely like a glorified babysitting service for a lot of kids. It’s effectively daycare for kids who are too old to be in daycare and the elimination of standards and all these things that go on.”
—Buck Sexton (16:56)
“You’re in a real dystopian situation when the cops are lying to you about who does a mass murder.”
—Buck Sexton (25:42)
“To what extent do all of these drugs that these trans people are loaded with... does that accelerate their mental degradation and make them more prone to violence? That’s a real question we should be asking.”
—Clay Travis (31:22)
This episode offers a sweeping and often provocative look at the challenges in American education, blending concrete policy discussion (the 1776 Award, state-level innovations like the “Mississippi Miracle,” and federal-to-state power shifts) with culture war commentary. The conversation with Secretary Linda McMahon anchors the show, providing insights into the administration’s education agenda and the importance of historical literacy. The latter half is punctuated by heated critiques of ideological bias in institutions and the consequences of avoiding uncomfortable truths, especially around mental health and gender identity. Throughout, the hosts maintain their signature wit, competitiveness, and occasional forays into lighter personal territory.