Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Hour 2 – "Make More Babies Again!"
Date: April 10, 2026
Host: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Guest: Ryan Girdusky (Numbers Game podcast, National Populist Newsletter)
Episode Overview
This hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focuses on two major topics:
- The political aftermath and polling trends surrounding the Iran conflict, with particular emphasis on gas prices and their lingering impact on the electorate.
- The surprising and significant new CDC birth rate data, including a discussion around America's cultural and demographic shifts and the effect of immigration policy on fertility trends.
Ryan Girdusky, data analyst and host of the Numbers Game podcast, joins for expert insights, lively back-and-forth, and deep dives into the numbers you won’t hear anywhere else.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Polling & Political Fallout from the Iran Situation
Timestamps: 00:39–10:09
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Republican Support & MAGA Loyalty
- The narrative that “all Republicans back Trump” regarding Iran is misleading. Ryan explains that opposition and undecidedness among Trump’s base have grown—especially among non-college-educated white voters:
"Among Trump's most loyal voting bloc, which is whites without a college degree... opposition has climbed to over 55% in almost every poll now, especially because of gas prices and inflation." (Ryan Girdusky, 03:03)
- Discussion on how defining "MAGA" in polls is tricky and mostly self-identified.
- The narrative that “all Republicans back Trump” regarding Iran is misleading. Ryan explains that opposition and undecidedness among Trump’s base have grown—especially among non-college-educated white voters:
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The Insidious Effect of Gas Prices
- Ryan illustrates the political volatility of gas prices: anger over expensive summer gas can last into fall, impacting both congressional and presidential races.
- Gas prices are a “constant visible indicator of inflation”—even if you drive an electric car, you still see the pump price everywhere.
"Gas being $4 a gallon is going to really tamper on their summer plans, make it a lot harder to go on vacation, have residual effects on the economy." (Ryan Girdusky, 05:15)
- Clay and Buck joke about their own car choices (Tesla vs. SUV) while agreeing prices must come down before summer for political safety.
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How Long Does Voter Anger Last?
- Ryan says the critical window is short (2–2.5 months). If high gas prices disrupt summer plans, political damage can persist into the fall:
"If it affects their summer plans, I think that anger boils over into the fall... the window is maybe two months." (Ryan Girdusky, 08:35)
- Ryan says the critical window is short (2–2.5 months). If high gas prices disrupt summer plans, political damage can persist into the fall:
2. CDC Birth Data & the "Make More Babies" Crisis
Timestamps: 12:01–17:31
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National and Global Fertility Decline
- US rates are down, but still higher than other developed nations: 1.57 children per woman—not enough for “replacement level” (2.1).
"Birth rates are down worldwide. It's not just an American phenomenon. Actually, America, for a developed country, is still at the higher end at 1.57 children per woman." (Ryan Girdusky, 12:46)
- US rates are down, but still higher than other developed nations: 1.57 children per woman—not enough for “replacement level” (2.1).
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Impact of Immigration Crackdowns
- Recent steep birthrate declines among immigrant groups (Chinese down 17.5%, Colombians 10.5%, Mexicans 13%, etc.) reflect the tangible effect of Trump’s immigration enforcement:
"Among immigrant groups that have more than 1,000 children a month, we're seeing double digit declines. Fertility is a lagging indicator of immigration enforcement." (Ryan Girdusky, 13:09)
- Recent steep birthrate declines among immigrant groups (Chinese down 17.5%, Colombians 10.5%, Mexicans 13%, etc.) reflect the tangible effect of Trump’s immigration enforcement:
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Sharp Drop Among Black Women’s Births
- Black American women have seen the most dramatic drop—now averaging fewer births per woman than whites for the first time ever. Reasons:
- 90%+ reduction in teen pregnancies since the 1990s.
- Significant increase in college attendance among Black women.
"Nothing delays pregnancy and childbearing more than college for women." (Ryan Girdusky, 15:44)
- Data: From Jan–Feb 2025 to Jan–Feb 2026, births to Black women declined nearly 10%, contributing to their share of national births dropping toward just 10% by the end of the decade.
- Black American women have seen the most dramatic drop—now averaging fewer births per woman than whites for the first time ever. Reasons:
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Delayed Childbearing
- More women now have children in their 30s; most abandon 20s for career/education, making hitting replacement levels mathematically unlikely.
"You have fewer children, and you have them later on in life. Absolutely... The number that they want, number they're having is very different. People want more than they're actually having." (Ryan Girdusky, 17:01)
- More women now have children in their 30s; most abandon 20s for career/education, making hitting replacement levels mathematically unlikely.
3. Memorable Quotes & Moments
On why so few babies are being born:
"Babies are a vote for the future. I really do believe this. It’s hard to be pessimistic if you've got a young baby in your hands..."
(Clay Travis, 12:14)
On poll skepticism:
"I don't like that question in polls because there's nothing to identify if you are a MAGA Republican or not, aside from you saying so."
(Ryan Girdusky, 01:52)
On the Strait of Hormuz as a hostage crisis:
"It's not that they control the Strait so much as they have taken the strait hostage."
(Buck Sexton, 28:07)
On the struggle to correlate ceasefire, open strait, and policy:
"Iran will say the Straits open—there's just not anybody trying to come through it. And then other people are going to say, well, that's because they're afraid you're going to blow up their ships."
(Clay Travis, 36:10)
4. Listener Calls, Analysis, & Real-Life Perspectives
Timestamps: 19:00–36:59
- Show fields several insightful listener calls, mostly about the ongoing tension in the Strait of Hormuz, viability of pipeline solutions, and oil and gas market dynamics.
- Clay and Buck break down the implications of terrorism-by-threat for shipping, and why having overwhelming naval strength isn’t a panacea when a few simple attacks can sow chaos.
- Key realization: while America is now an energy superpower, high summer gas prices are a political “third rail.” Voters won’t tolerate them for long.
Notable Timestamps
| Time | Segment/Highlight | |------------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 00:39 | Girdusky introduced; numbers behind Iran support | | 03:03 | MAGA and non-college white voter opposition up | | 05:11 | Economic impact of $4+/gallon summer gas | | 08:35 | Voter anger lingers 2–2.5 months after price hikes | | 12:46 | CDC birth rate data & Girdusky’s demographic analysis | | 13:09 | Effect of immigration policy on specific groups’ births | | 15:44 | Teen pregnancy, college's effect on Black birthrates | | 17:01 | Delayed childbearing and its math for fertility | | 28:07 | Buck summarizes the “hostage” reality of Strait crisis | | 36:10 | Ceasefire versus open strait policy dilemma clarified |
Tone & Style
- Approachable, witty, and sharply political
- Data-driven but laced with humor and personal anecdotes
- Intentionally provocative—hosts frequently challenge orthodoxies and minimize mainstream narratives
- Girdusky is praised for “teaching” even the hosts new facts and delivering raw analysis
Conclusion
This episode offers a deep look at how data reveals hidden realities behind headlines: the persistence of economic anxiety over gas prices, shifting demographic patterns, the unexpected effectiveness of recent immigration controls, and what these trends mean for the American political and cultural future.
The underlying message: big issues—war, migration, the economics of family—are driven by both hard numbers and cultural changes that often go unnoticed. Listeners are left with new perspectives and, as always, strong opinions on how individual choices and policy shape the nation's trajectory.
