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Buck Sexton (2:05)

Welcome in, everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. And we had mentioned this, so we have to play it. We can't just leave you hanging out there. Right? Crispian Amonpour, who has a sort of English accent, but also it's like, fancier than an English accent.

Clay Travis (2:27)

What percentage of her professional success is related to her accent? Buck, if she talked like you or me, not bad voices. We talk on the radio, would she be 75% less successful in her career?

Buck Sexton (2:41)

Oh, at least. At least there was a time when, and this is just a fact, there was a time when, especially in television, if you had a British accent of any kind. People just assumed you were smart and they should listen to you in America, which is weird, especially when you stop to think that the GDP per capita of the UK is less than the per capita income of the poorest American state. Like, why do we think they're so fancy over there? You know what I mean? This is a weird.

Clay Travis (3:12)

It's not even. It's not even past Buck, this. I think John Oliver owes 75% of his career success to the fact that he's British.

Buck Sexton (3:20)

Well, that's not very nice, is it, Clay? You know? Yeah, absolutely. If these guys actually spoke like everybody.

Clay Travis (3:28)

Else, John Oliver had a Southern accent, he would have no career. Exact same. Exact same opinions, deep Southern accent. He does not have a media career. It's. He owes everything to the British and the fact that he doesn't have a deep Southern accent.

Buck Sexton (3:46)

What's funny to me is I've tried to goad Clay into giving me the most country Tennessee accent possible, and he. It's like it's. It's not even a thing that's there. He just doesn't.

Clay Travis (3:56)

Well, I just feel like if you fake an accent, and I don't mean for comedic purposes, this is the thing that drives me crazy. Every Southerner. We've talked about this before. Politicians disrespect us so much because they pretend that they're actually Southern whenever they come down here and that my mom and dad have deep Southern accents. But you can't even.

Buck Sexton (4:20)

You don't even code switch, though. You don't. You don't do the code switch thing. Like, it's not like when you're in Nashville, but you're like, hey, I'm Clay Travis, y'. All. You know, like, that does not happen.

Clay Travis (4:29)

I don't believe in code switching. Like, I'm me, for better or worse. Like, there is no distinction between me on this microphone. And when I walk outside and I'm on the sidewalk in Panama City, I will sound the exact same. I can't act. I'm the worst actor.

Buck Sexton (4:44)

I was going to say, you know, when I'm in Sheepshead Bay, I'm showing Clay around in New York, and I'm like, hey, it's Buck. I'm a firefighter. Fdny. You know? Like, Clay doesn't even. He's like, what's going on here? I'm like, don't worry. I'm with the locals. We're talking, you know? You know, like, it's a different thing. He doesn't even.

Clay Travis (4:59)

I Want to even do it. I'm helping people get elected in Tennessee. I just show up and I talk like me. Now, does it help that I'm from Tennessee and that people know that I am? Yes, probably, because there's so many people who have moved in from other places and they trust me because I'm a local. But what we don't trust in the south, and I know there's tons of you out there in the south listening, nodding along, is when somebody who's not from here shows up and tries to pretend like they are, which is every politician.

Buck Sexton (5:29)

Well, as we've discussed, we actually do need to have a national dispensation. Maybe Trump could sign an executive order whereby we all just appropriate y', all because it is a better contraction than you guys, which is really the Northeastern equivalent. You guys, y' all is way better. Easier to say, rolls off the tongue. But none of us want to seem like posers by taking your y'. All. So I know some of you write in and say, buck, you can do it because I have honorary Southern privileges. But we really should just, as an American thing, get to. Everybody can say all.

Clay Travis (6:02)

By the way, is your honorary Southern privilege that you married a girl from the South? Is that why you think you have the ability to say y'? All? Or is it the movement to Florida? What if you had moved to Florida, just married another New Yorker in Florida?

Buck Sexton (6:14)

No, I. I actually, you. I think it's just because I do this show, and Southerners in their graciousness.

Clay Travis (6:20)

It'S like giving me the key to.

Buck Sexton (6:21)

The city or something. It's like an honorary PhD. I have honorary because we have such enormous audiences in Southern states in these.

Clay Travis (6:29)

Big audiences all, you know. Yeah, No, I think, look, my wife has been down in the south for 24 years, and it took her a while to get comfortable saying y', all, but it is a way better word than the alternative. Like, you guys, it' way more efficient, way more effective. And so, yeah, I think the whole nation should adopt it.

Buck Sexton (6:50)

Now back to Christiana Monport. Very fancy, but also very sorry because she said something really, really stupid. Let's start with the stupid thing that she said that she had to apologize for.

Christiane Amanpour (7:04)

Play that people who start to talk to the hostages who've only just been released will find that it will take a long, long time for them to recover physically, but also mentally, it's been a terrible, terrible two years for them because not only are they there, you know, they're probably being treated better than the average Gazan because They are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had. Now, Hamas has given up all its leverage, by the way, by giving them all up.

Buck Sexton (7:31)

Better than Clay, she said.

Clay Travis (7:33)

Better than. I know, I know, I know. Probably go back to. Go back to the last 15 seconds of that. Can we cut through into that? Because not only. There are two things that she said there that I think are significant and actually she's telling on herself. One, the hostages that were made to dig their own graves, most of whom were actually killed, murdered by the people holding them, the people that have not been above ground, some of them, in years, they're probably being treated better than the average person in Gaza. That's what she said. She also pointed out here something she said, well, this is a big risk for Hamas because they're giving up their leverage. This is something that everybody.

Buck Sexton (8:19)

She sounds like a Hamas. She sounds like a Hamas negotiator. Honestly. She sounds like she could be doing the Hamas back and forth with Trump, et cetera, herself.

Clay Travis (8:29)

And she's saying that because Hamas has told her that. Right? She's not. She has bought into the idea that Hamas, the average person in Gaza is being treated way worse than the average hostage. Play that backside again and then we'll play her apology where she tried to clean it up. But sometimes you got to listen to people because they will tell on themselves. Uh, and again, this was live television. Christian namanpur, who owes 75% of her entire career, at least to the fact that she has an interesting accent that makes her sound smarter than she is listening.

Christiane Amanpour (9:03)

Terrible, terrible two years for them, because not only are they there, you know, they're probably being treated better than the average Gazan because they are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had. Now, Hamas has given up all its leverage, by the way, by giving them.

Clay Travis (9:16)

All up, probably being treated better than the average Gazan Christian poor. On how the hostages are being treated. Okay, that was. I'm glad we played that. Then she had to clean it up because a lot of people saw that clip and said, my God, how did that air. And here was clean up on aisle Amanpour. This was cnn.

Christiane Amanpour (9:41)

Listen, I noted that for the hostages who are finally home, it'll take a long time for them to recover mentally and physically. But I regret also saying that they might have been treated better than many Gazans because Hamas used these hostages as pawns and bargaining chips. But that was insensitive and it was wrong. From speaking to many former hostages and their families, like everyone, I've been horrified at what Hamas has subjected them to over two long years.

Buck Sexton (10:09)

The first, the first version was what she really thinks.

Clay Travis (10:11)

Just to be correct.

Buck Sexton (10:12)

The apology was by CNN corporate leadership saying, you moron, we don't want to have to fire you after 30 years of you being an overpaid, you know, zero, but you better go out there and clean this up right away. But she actually believed the first thing that she said because there are a lot of people who have adopted this narrative of the Gaza. The casualty, the real casualty figures for Gaza are something like 1% of the overall population. That's the actual cat. So 99% of Gazans in a so called genocide and starvation scenario, 99% of them are, are not, were not in any way killed or casual.

Clay Travis (10:52)

The 1% is also important here, Buck. It's because Hamas was using them as human shields.

Buck Sexton (10:58)

Human shields.

Clay Travis (10:58)

So it's not the number. And look, Israel is imperfect as everyone is in a time of war, but this was probably the most targeted attack on bad guys that we have ever seen in the history of modern warfare, of warfare at all. Remember, look at what they did in Iran. Some of the things that they did, they went into apartment buildings and took out Iranian leaders in the nuclear arms race and didn't even hit the rest of the apartment. So when they're out there saying, oh my goodness, all these people are innocent being killed. Some innocent people are killed in times of war. That is unfortunate. That is a reality. But that's an intentional move by Hamas because they put so many of their facilities under hospitals, under schools, in places so they can point and say, no, there's nothing wrong here. Remember, Buck, in the early days, remember when every newspaper put that Israel had hit a hospital and then it came out that it was actually Hamas that hit it and it just kind of vanished? Yeah.

Buck Sexton (11:58)

Well, this also though, is a reminder when we want to talk about the moral clarity with which people should look at this conflict. They could have avoided a single Palestinian casualty if Hamas just didn't do what it did, didn't do October 7th.

Clay Travis (12:15)

Correct.

Buck Sexton (12:16)

Or even in the aftermath of October 7th, if Hamas leadership of the Palestinian people have been like, you know what? You take these bums and do with them whatever you want, they're out and we're giving you back your hostages and you take our Hamas leaders and try them and execute those that, you know, whatever, they would have saved a lot of civilian casualties that way too. But they chose to fight after starting the fight. If you start a fight and then you choose to fight, you don't get to cry when you lose the fight, which is exactly what has been going on here the whole time.

Clay Travis (12:47)

By the way, President Trump just tweeted, we'll read this maybe when we come back. He's been on the call with Putin our whole show so far today. Buck, he just hung up with Vladimir Putin. So he has been talking for Putin. I mean, we've been talking for an hour and 20 minutes already before we started the show. He was on the call with Putin. Well, hold on. Here we have. I have just concluded my telephone conversation with President Putin of Russia. Very productive one. President Putin congratulated me in the United States on the great accomplishment of peace in the Middle east, something that he said has been dreamed about for centuries. I actually believe the success in the Middle east will help in our negotiation and attaining an end to the war with Russia. Ukraine. President Putin thanked First Lady Melania for her involvement with children. Very appreciative, said this will continue. We also spent a great deal of time talking about trade between Russia and the United States when the war with Ukraine is over. At the conclusion of the call, we agreed there will be a meeting of our high level advisors next week. The United States initial meetings will be led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio together with various other people to be designated a meeting location to be determined. President Putin and I will then meet in an agreed upon location, Budapest, Hungary to see if we can bring this inglorious war between Russia and Ukraine to an end. President Zelensky and I will be meeting tomorrow in the Oval Office where we will discuss my conversation with President Putin and much more. I believe great progress was made with today's telephone conversation. That is President Trump two minutes ago.

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Clay Travis (20:21)

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Look, this is funny. Buck was just talking to. We were talking about it off air. We're giving you all these opinions on how to end the war in Ukraine. Hey, what are the strategic implications of the oil and gas industry as it pertains to India? And and what should Trump do about Tomahawk missiles? And we just read. And everybody has inundated Us with our takes on accents. And so I'm going to pop a couple of these because they're fun, because we can do multiple different things. We can talk about serious things and also have fun, which I hope we do a good job of on this show every day. Dan in the Twin Cities. Uh, he says he can tell that I'm from the south. Uh, let's see.

Asma Khalid (21:07)

G.G.

Buck Sexton (21:08)

You can hear Clay's accent when he says things like the baseball felled or I sat down in the chair, or any word that has the letter R in it, like world or word.

Clay Travis (21:24)

That's super intense analysis of my accent. I bought.

Buck Sexton (21:30)

People do listen to you for three hours a day. They do actually have expertise in this.

Clay Travis (21:35)

I notice people who are from the south, even if they do not have pronounced Southern accents based on how they pronounce O's. If you listen closely, I can always tell even people in different parts of the country the word, the letter O, how the sound is made in a story. That's where I pick up on it. Bob in Houston hh maybe Bob and Houston. HH is not there. We do have a lot of your talkbacks we've talked about. We'll hit this maybe Buck some. The toxic femininity. I'm catching up with all the different. All the different talkbacks. Let me go into the intense number of talkbacks relating to not very serious things, which are still simultaneously all very funny. Let's go to a. A on the talkbacks.

Buck Sexton (22:31)

Hi, guys. My husband and I caught most of your show yesterday, then went for baby back ribs at Saltgrass Steakhouse. During the meal, my husband started coughing after a bite of food. What I should have asked him was, are you okay? Instead I said, please don't prove Clay right. At least let's get the great white shark in here if you're going to die. We had a great laugh together. And, of course, had he really been choking and able to breathe, things would have been a bit more serious, intense.

Clay Travis (22:57)

Think about that, Buck. Her husband starts to choke to death, and her first thought is, please don't prove Clay right by dying here on the baby back ribs.

Buck Sexton (23:06)

It's. It's a fair point. You know, she wrenched the great white shark thing. You know how I told you that my brother's friend was in that race from Catalina island and there was a shark attack? Yeah. Wondering why the guy was okay because the great white shark that attack attacked him or bit him was four feet long. Those things can be 20ft long. So four foot. It was basically a Baby, A baby great white bit him now. Still scary. But I'm not getting in that water is all I'm telling you.

Clay Travis (23:34)

I, the, this has really made me re. I am very confident that I could make the swim, but the idea of getting eaten by a shark has now gotten into my head to such an extent that I'm not even worried about the physical nature of the swim. I'm worried about getting eaten by a shark like that guy almost did on the Catalina island swim.

Buck Sexton (23:54)

They do this at night too.

Clay Travis (23:56)

Yeah, that I don't understand.

Buck Sexton (23:58)

Blackness of the water.

Clay Travis (23:59)

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Buck Sexton (25:08)

Been saying that Fetterman voted to keep the government open. There's been a lot of these votes and until there's agreement from the Democrat side, it's really just a going through the motions gesture. But in a recent vote, as I see here, two days ago, six senators did not vote to reopen the government, including Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. So at least in a recent one he didn't vote. Now I guess he's been vocally supportive of reopening the government as well. But you know, let me see Fetterman statement on the government's not the reason.

Clay Travis (25:45)

The government is shut down. Look, the reality is you got to get to 60 and I don't believe we've gotten to more than 55 or 56 so far. I think they need four more Democrats in order to open the government.

Buck Sexton (25:58)

According to Fetterman, he voted yes to extend the ACA tax credits, but he won't vote for the shuttering of the government. So he voted in favor of House and Senate Democrats, Alternative Continuing Resolution and the Democrats. Anyway, whatever, guys, he's caught in the middle of this one. There's been a bunch of different votes here. I'm just trying to see. Yeah, he voted with the Democrats on this, but I guess he says he wouldn't have. Whatever. I don't know.

Clay Travis (26:29)

I find. Let me just say this. Eventually the government is going to reopen and we are going to run, unfortunately, massive deficits for years. They're going to take a lot of our money and they are going to continue to spend it and none of us are going to be happy about it.

Buck Sexton (26:45)

So also, I want to throw this out there. If any one of you have done. We have a lot of California listeners. If any of you have done the Catalina Island Channel swim, please call in. I want to hear what it's like. I looked this up because I was wondering. Also because to me, swimming at night, you're generally advised. I know. Maybe I'm a little too freaked out about sharks. Okay, maybe we've established that I have shark attack phobia or something. But I've seen Jaws too many times. In fact, I've seen all of them and they get really bad after Jaws too. I mean, even Jaws, a lot of.

Clay Travis (27:16)

Money grabs going on. Yeah.

Buck Sexton (27:17)

Yeah. The Jaws movies, really, they sink to the bottom of the ocean if you ask me. But the, the reason they do it at night, generally you don't want to swim at night because it's harder to find you rip. Rip tides and also sharks. Sharks are more active feeding at night. But the reason they do it is because of all the heavy boat traffic. Boat traffic. Exactly. That's what I was saying. Which is even a bigger risk to swimmers because there's a lot of boats that are moving in that area and you don't want obviously any problems with that. So that's why they do it at night. Okay, clarified that the Fetterman vote thing sounds like he's trying to play a little bit of both sides on it. But nonetheless, that's where we are. So with that, sir, I wanted to.

Clay Travis (28:05)

Where you wanted to dive into your boy Mom Donnie, who was on with Martha McCall not yesterday afternoon on FOX.

Buck Sexton (28:12)

News, not born in America so cannot be president. Glad we Clarified. I'd forgotten that he was Ugandan.

Clay Travis (28:19)

Yep.

Buck Sexton (28:20)

You know, I actually. Random side side note here. I had a good friend in college who was Ugandan, and he. His father came home one day and said, pack a bag to his family, to his two sons and his wife. Pack a bag right now. We are going to the airport. And his. His father was a lawyer in Uganda at the time of IDI Amin's reign as president, but really as dictator. Right. He was effectively the dictator of Uganda who was making perceived enemies disappear. And the story that, again, my friend told me, was that his father showed up to the law firm late one day. He had some other business or whatever, and all the partners had been detained and disappeared.

Clay Travis (29:14)

Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Buck Sexton (29:17)

So anyway, Uganda, if you have. I've told you.

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Clay Travis (29:21)

He and the family got out of the.

Buck Sexton (29:23)

They got out. Yeah. He made it to.

Clay Travis (29:24)

How you knew them.

Buck Sexton (29:25)

His dad became a professor in this country. They, by the way, actual refugees.

Clay Travis (29:31)

Yeah, right.

Buck Sexton (29:32)

Actual asylum seeker slash refugee situation. That's what it's for. It's for someone's trying to kill me just because I, you know, am like an educated member of the political opposition. Will you please take in my family? It is not, hey, I just crossed the border and I want to make more money here, slash, get access to your welfare anyway.

Clay Travis (29:54)

But if you have not on the Uganda front, sorry to remind you, Mamdani's middle name is Kwame. Remember we talked about this and he tried to pretend that he was black for purposes of. Or mixed race for purposes of his Columbia application. When he clicked African American on the. I know a lot of people have stopped talking about that, but he did that because he was born in Uganda and his middle name, he's Zoran Kwame Momdani. And so he was hoping, I think, that the admissions counselors would think, oh, how many Kwame's from Africa are not partly black? And that he would help him get into Colombia, which did not work, by the way.

Buck Sexton (30:38)

My Ugandan friend was most certainly black. And yes, and yes. And he fled. And I would say if you have not seen Last King of Scotland, that is a. It which deals with this. It's a fictionalized, but it deals with. With IDI Amin and what it was like under his reign. And it is a. It is a great movie. Underrated, I think, and kind of forgotten now, but a really, really good watch.

Clay Travis (31:02)

Although Forest Whitaker is the star in that movie. Right. Really? Really? He plays.

Buck Sexton (31:07)

I also think. Yeah, I think of as an underrated actor in general also. I think Forest Whitaker, you know, people who know know that he's actually really good, really good actor and he was phenomenal in that role. But yeah, he's, yeah, some of the scenes you will kind of traumatize you. I kind of wish they actually had toned it down a little bit with some of the brutality. But anyway, it's a very, very good movie. And there we have it. Ok, now, Zoran Mamdani, born in Uganda. Zoran Mamdani, here he is when he sat down with Martha MacCallum. She got the exclusive yesterday to sit down with him on Fox. And I will note, you're going to see, Clay, more Democrats who realize they have to do this now. They have to be willing to sit down with not puff media. That's just going to tell them how amazing they are because they don't have the same media ecosystem dominance that they used to. So you're going to have to go in and talk to people at Fox News. You know, increasingly, I'm not saying it's going to be everywhere, but you're going to see more of this. Look, Gavin Newsom's been doing it, obviously because he wants to. He does want to run for president. But he was asked, Zoramdani was asked about Hamas and whether they should lay down their arms. This is cut 22. This is what he said.

Zoran Mamdani (32:23)

I have no issue with critiquing Hamas or the Israeli government because my critiques all come from a place of universal human rights. And my focus, however, is right here in New York City and transforming the most expensive city in America into one that's affordable for each and every New Yorker.

Buck Sexton (32:36)

But okay, and I want to get to that. Absolutely. But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?

Zoran Mamdani (32:44)

I believe that any future here in New York City is one that we have to make sure that's affordable for all. And as it pertains to to Israel and Palestine, that we have to ensure that there is peace and that is the future that we have to fight for.

Buck Sexton (32:54)

But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their arms and give up leadership in Gaza.

Zoran Mamdani (32:58)

I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety and the fact that anything has to abide by international law. And that applies to Hamas, that applies to the Israeli military, applies to anyone.

Buck Sexton (33:09)

You could ask me about Clay, it sounds a little bit like Abigail Spanberger being asked about the trans issue, where you hear a bunch of words but you don't get much of an answer.

Clay Travis (33:20)

Martha is, I think, one of the best interviewers in news. And that's a very direct question. Should the terror organization lay down their arms or not so we can have peace in the Middle East? That's effectively what Martha is asking. And he, to your point, went full Abigail Spanberger and just talked his way out of having to answer that question. Look, mom, Donnie is really glib. He is really articulate. He is a handsome guy. He's way better at saying nothing than Abigail Spanberger is. And he smiles and he knows how to play the television game. And I am glad that he was born in Uganda, because earlier when you were talking about it, I've thought through this. He would 100% have an American presidential future in his horizon if he had been born in the United States. Because he is that good at being disarming. He's wrong about everything. I want to be clear, wrong about everything. But talks a good game. And there are a lot of people out there that if you smile. I have talked about this with people on television for years. You can deliver absolute missiles if you smile while you do it. And if the better looking you are, the more you can get away with it. I joked about this with Tommy Lahren who works at Outkick. Go listen to some of the, some of the bullets that Tommy Lahren metaphorically is firing. But she is so good at smiling while she does it and she is gutting people and they don't even realize it. And mom, Donnie is a handsome, good looking, telegenic disciple of all the wrong messaging, but he does it so well that a lot of people just don't even recognize what he's arguing. And then there are other things that really appeal to young people. Hey, groceries are too expensive. Why doesn't the city of New York just run its own grocery store? And then everything will be cheaper. Hey, man, rent's really expensive. We should just freeze rent. That'll solve all the problems. When you lack basic economic knowledge, you come up with lots of answers to challenging situations that actually make the challenging situation worse. But they have the illusion of success for people who are often too young or too ignorant to recognize that they're going to end up in a worse shape. You know who doesn't get frozen Buck mortgage? The mortgages that the landlords have to pay, like their rates of. Of payments don't get helped. I mean, it's all broken.

Buck Sexton (36:20)

You're leading right into what I wanted to dive into, which is as somebody who lived in New York and had to deal with. I mean, I was like 30 and had four roommates, right? I mean this is. It's a very tough place to make a go of it. But the reasons for it are not lack of government intervention. The reasons for it are largely, I would argue, government doing too many things the wrong way and thinking that it can just create by fiat market conditions. Right. And then those market conditions that actually exist after the government intervention happens are incredible. It's same thing in California housing, by the way. California. It's like, why is housing so expensive? Why is a house so expensive in California? Well, it's because there's all these regulations and all these permits and all these things that go into the process. You know, recently they did an analysis, Clay, and I think it was in Canada, another very liberal place, right, left wing place. And something like 50% of the cost of a new house in Canada is purely regulation, taxes and permits. 50%. And I mean, if you looked at what it is in California, remember when they were going to build the million dollar porta potty, essentially, I think it was in San Francisco. They were going to spend $1 million on a public single occupancy bathroom. Everybody, that's a port, a potty. How do you spend a million dollars on a porta potty, California? Gavin Newsom has an answer for you. New York City, Clay. 20% of New Yorkers, something like 1.4 million people are in subsidized, almost free, depends on which kind of subsidized housing. And then they make it very expensive and very difficult to create new housing. Guess what? This makes market conditions where everything is pricier. The 2% surcharge that Mamdani says he's going to charge on incomes to make life less expensive for people is a joke. It is not even scratching at the problem.

Clay Travis (38:27)

It also reminds me your bathroom analogy. Remember when they were going to build a nationwide network of charging stations for all the E vehicles and then the numbers came out that they had spent billions of dollars and somehow added like seven charging stations. The government can't do anything efficiently or effectively, which is why we need to get the government out of as much as we possibly can. We'll play a couple more of these momdani cuts because I do think they're very significant. Also, we got Obama coming in to the Virginia governor's race. And I saw this AOC on masculinity, but also Buck, did you see that? AI articles now make up the majority of articles published on the Internet already just in the, you know, two years that AI has taken off.

Buck Sexton (39:14)

I think this is the book industry, which you and I are still in. For what it's worth. I don't know what's going to happen now. It's gone from ghostwriters to AI writers is what you're going to see. I can tell you I wrote my book, and I know Clay wrote his book because I know the people in the publishing industry who are reading these things. That's unfortunately going to become a vanishingly small number of books that you're actually able to buy, no doubt.

Clay Travis (39:37)

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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. For those of you watching on video, we have a special guest. Six month old James Speed Sexton is on the mic right now. He is very entertained by it. He may or may not make may or may not make a sound, but super cute baby on the camera.

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We are not already smiling. Now we got a big smile. I bet that's mom in the background being able to get him to smile. And so are we shamelessly using baby videos to encourage you to subscribe to the YouTube channel. Yes, yes. If you. There you go.

Buck Sexton (45:47)

You.

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If you want to see and hear a very happy baby, six months old, it will be up on YouTube and he is awesome and starting to sleep a little bit better, I'm told. Sources.

Buck Sexton (46:01)

That is true. That is true. His mommy is a mommy superstar and we're getting him. Whoa. We just pulled by your ear off. So Clay, I can't hear you, but yeah. Ow. He's also able to grip and hit now, which is new. So this is a very exciting stage in his. Ah, there he is in his. He's a lot of fun.

Clay Travis (46:21)

Six month old, they start to really, really get fun. You get a lot back from them is what I recall. And he is a super cute kid. So you can check him out right now on video. We come back, Obama stepping into the governor's race in Virginia. AOC has strong takes on masculinity. More from our buddy Momdani in his interview with Martha McCollum also, all of that headed this way. Buck, take us to the break with your son there.

Buck Sexton (46:49)

Yeah, well, he just speed says to everybody that he loves America and he loves all of you who listen to the show because you have great taste in radio and also maga. These are the things he's saying right now.

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