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Buck Sexton
4Imprint for certain. Welcome back in everybody to the second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. We have the FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr with us now. Commissioner, appreciate you being with us.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, great to be with you. Good to be back.
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Buck Sexton
Can you just walk us through this a little bit? Because there's been, there's all this stuff in the, in the news now, headlines, some, some sniping back and forth over this. So there was a Texas Democrat, state Rep. James Talarico, Stephen Colbert, and now the FCC's name is being thrown around and all this, what is this controversy? Can you lay out for us, like what the, what the assertions have been and what the reality is surrounding this?
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
There's so many layers to this. It's really an interesting story. At one level, this is a story about why trust in mainstream traditional media is at an all time low. Because for any person that is not suffering from sort of a terminal case of Trump derangement syndrome was so obvious from the get go, what was happening here, which was that Colbert and Talarico concocted a scheme to try to drive views and clicks and donations and apparently votes by claiming falsely that the government has somehow censored their program. And what happened was the truth came out and CBS said no. In fact, nobody, not even cbs, prohibited Colbert from running the interview that he wanted. They simply said, hey, if you're going to do this, there's ways you can do this that complies with equal time requirements. And we encourage you apparently to do that. But instead of doing that, they did that sort of meme where you take the stick and poke it through your own front wheel of your bicycle and fall down and claim that you're the victim for abuse. It was pretty interesting to watch the arc of this story between mainstream fake news reporters falling for this hoax that was really about Democrat and Democrat violence was about a politician trying to get leg up in the Democratic Senate primary. And it fell apart once the facts started coming to light.
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Buck Sexton
Here is a media analyst on cnn. I've never heard of this guy before, Bill Carter. I wanted to play this sound bite and then, and then have you just react, just tell us what's accurate, what's not. Here, this is cut 13. Play it.
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Bill Carter
There are many TV shows which, as you pointed out, makes this even more strange because if CBS was in a different situation that they are in and they wanted to fight this, they could have gone to the court and said, how can you put this rule on us and not radio? They're doing the same thing. And there's, and there's thousands of stations that are conservative talk radio, and there's no way that they would force the rule against them. So it does seem like selective regulation against them. So I'm surprised that maybe ABC will do that if they go after Kimmel again. But frankly, I just think that it's embarrassing. It really is embarrassing to me that you have Trump reacting to this small cadre of critics. Every president has been criticized by late night TV and only this one wants to sic his FCC on them.
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Buck Sexton
Sic his FCC on them, he says. What's really going on here?
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Well, we sit back. There's a rule that's been on the books. In fact, it's a statute going back to the 1950s that says if you're going to put a legally qualified candidate for office on broadcast radio or tv. So he's wrong there. It does apply to radio as well. Then you have to offer comparable time and placement to other legally qualified candidates. And over the last 20 or 30 years, people have misread or overread SEC case law, and they've just assumed that everything from the View to Colbert is bonafide news. Because if you're bonafide news, you don't have to comply with the equal time requirement. And all we've done is remind people that if you think you're bonafide news, meaning not fake news, then come to us and we will adjudicate whether you qualify for the exception. But other than that, you got to comply with equal time. And why did Congress do this? It's pretty simple. They didn't want establishment media gatekeepers deciding who will win elections. They wanted the actual people in the voters to decide it. So they said you can't take your broadcast facilities and put your thumb on the scale for one particular candidate. And if you do that, you got to open your facilities up to the other candidate. So it's about more speech. And this idea that this was somehow Trump censoring people makes no sense at all. Had they applied and complied with equal time, it would have been more airtime for more Democrats to say more of whatever they wanted to say about Trump or anybody else. But again, they just decided to run this hoax, that this was about censorship because they knew that most of the mainstream media would have this comply with their priors, and they would run the story. And it, you know, the facts simply weren't there.
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Buck Sexton
Well, this seems to be a replay at some level of the, of the Kimmel playbook where they claim victim and they, they act like there's been this terrible wrong done to some Democrat mouthpiece in the media, and then they get a boost in ratings, they get all this attention, and they have, you know, idiot celebrities who are standing with them in solidarity. So I guess it worked for them in that case. And so they're trying to just replay this for attention and for clicks.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
That's right. This seems to be the exact playbook. It's the same thing we saw with Kimmel, which is just nothing but projection and distortion. And what's so amazing for a media, for an observer of the media here was this episode where this politician, the Democrat Senate primary in Texas, put out a tweet, I think, before daylight on the east coast, claiming that he was censored by the Trump administration when no one here had anything to do with it. And then within minutes, hours, the entire mainstream media apparatus just turned on a dime like a school of fish or a bunch of lemmings. And it just reveals the cartel nature of so much of the national news media. And then later in the day, the facts came out and said, that's not what happened at all. And then they say, well, the narrative shifts like, well, the administration must be so awful that we were fooled by this, that we thought this could possibly have taken place. There's no reflection. I mean, these journalists are fed total slop by these candidates, and they've got no problem regurgitating it. And when they're called out for it, they seem to be happy that they were part and parcel of another hoax.
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Buck Sexton
We're speaking to FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr right now. And Commissioner, what, What enforcement actions, if any, do you either are underway have been taken or do you think may be taken when. When it pertains to the equal time rule? I mean, is. It's one thing to have a rule, it's another thing to enforce it. Is there a likelihood that the FCC if people continue to completely ignore this will do something.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, absolutely. Look, we already have enforcement action underway with respect to Disney and the View. Disney apparently is taking the position that the View is bonafide news and therefore doesn't have to comply with the equal time provisions. We've already taken enforcement action there. We've begun our enforcement process and we're going to see that through to the end. And we're going to expect all the broadcasters to comply with these provisions. If they don't like it, that's okay. They can go to Congress and try to change it, or they can turn in their license. They can simply broadcast this content over a streaming service or a cable channel, because those are not subject to this requirements, just broadcast TV and radio. But we're going to insist on people complying with the law as passed by Congress. Again, broadcast is just fundamentally different than any other means of distribution of programming. And I get that people don't understand that because you just see a screen and you don't know that it is cable. Is it streaming? Is it broadcast?
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Buck Sexton
Can you. Actually, I think. Not to interrupt you, Commissioner, but I think this important people, what does fall. You've mentioned this, but what and why do certain things fall under FCC rules that. And you mentioned cable, for example, does not. What is that distinction? Where does that come from? I just think that's important background for people to have.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
It really is. So in order to broadcast, that means you're using the public airwaves, that's a finite natural resource, and you get a license by the government to use a particular channel. When the government gives you a license, they're necessarily excluding other people from having the ability to use that spectrum for their own viewpoint. So if you are on a podcast or a cable channel or a soapbox, the government isn't excluding anybody. Everybody has a right basically to stand up a business and do that. And so when you're on a podcast, all you have to look out for is your own viewpoints, your own partisan politics, whatever you want. But if you have a license, the government says you must stand in the shoes effectively of people that were denied that microphone. And so you have an obligation to operate with what we call is in the public interest, not in some narrow partisan interest, which would be perfectly fine on a cable program or a streaming service or podcast. But broadcast is a license by the government. It means we've excluded other people. And it means you have to operate as sort of a public trust model. That's the bargain that you, that you agree to, to get free access to this valuable public resource of the airwaves.
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Buck Sexton
I don't even have cable TV commissioners, so I'm kind of out of the loop on some of these things. But when it comes to broadcast television, are a lot of people. Isn't that like how. Remember the old TVs, they had the antlers, the antennas on top, and that. Would. Are people watching CBS via the broadcast, or is it digital? How does that work? Just the technology of it. I'm curious about.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
There's a small percentage of people that still get their broadcast tv, as he would say, over the air through the old rabbit ears that we used to have to tune when we were kids. But a lot of people get it, obviously through their cable service as well. And the rules and regulations effectively apply to broadcast over cable to the extent that that cable channel is the same programming that you would get over the year. But it also highlights why I think it's important to enforce these rules, which is there are so many other different ways of getting programming out there. So if you don't want these rules and requirements, go to cable, go to streaming, go to YouTube. But if you want to distribute to this one particular unique medium, then you got to comply with the rules and regulations that apply to it. And again, over the years, the FCC had simply walked away from enforcing that. And I don't. I don't think we're better off for that.
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Buck Sexton
Can I ask, would it fall under your remit at the fcc? These spam texters? Is the. Can you fix this, Commissioner? This is something like, you know, go ahead.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
We are. We are. We are working on this. Most of the coverage of the SEC has to do with our media regulation policy because it likes to talk about the media. But we have a really significant work stream going on, what we call illegal robocalls. And we're tapping the issue at every single portion of the life cycle. We're making it harder for bad actors to get phone numbers. We're making it really harder for foreign call centers to deliver traffic here, even legitimate foreign call centers. Like if United has a call center in Guatemala, we are looking at additional regulations to compel them to disclose that this is a call center outside the U.S. not one inside the U.S. and so we're doing a lot of work. It's not just us, it's ftc, it's state attorney generals. We're all working to try to crack down on this robocall problem. We're making some progress, but obviously we're a ways off from mission accomplished on.
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Buck Sexton
That, well, it's just good to know someone's on it because it drives me and I think a lot of people listening with us right now drives them nuts. And it's so. It's such a time waster. It also opens the door to a lot of elder fraud because people just assume I got a call, a number showed up, you know, the person sounds nice and legitimate and they're actually from, you know, my whatever company or my credit card company. And of course, you know, turns out that it's, it's a scam. So cutting down on this, I just think across the board, by the way, I think that's probably like a 95. There aren't that many issues in politics, but I think cutting down on spam calls and, you know, you know, robocalls is a way to make the FCC very, very popular.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, you're right. And we're going to be continuing to ramp up our efforts here because we're seeing increasingly, to your point, elder fraud, where people are impersonating banks. You see it with direct messages to people through Facebook. They either claim to be businesses or people. It is a rampant vector right now for fraud. I think almost everybody either has, you know, a parent or a friend or a neighbor that's been victimized through either these impersonation calls or Facebook dms. I do think you're going to see us continue to ramp up our effort to crack down on that.
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Buck Sexton
FCC Commissioner Carr, appreciate you really explaining in detail what's going on here, setting the record straight, and please come back anytime.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, appreciate it. Good to be with you.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Want to take your talk facts and your calls, my friends, and also remind you that Chip Roy is going to join us in the third hour. We're going to do a politics policy nerd deep dive into the SAVE act, into the partial government shutdown, the demands about ICE from the Democrats. Like you're going to know more from the conversation we're going to have with Congressman, Congressman Roy than anyone who's going on TV over at Ms. Now, that's for darn sure talking and spouting off about it. So I really want to get, get into that because those are, those are important issues. Obviously, the integrity of our election, something this administration still very energized by and focused on for obvious reasons, really does matter. And I think that the American people need to know where the two sides, Democrat and Republican, fall on this issue. So we will, I promise you we'll get into some real, real policy stuff on that one. You know, Chip Roy knows, knows the ins and outs on that. And we have Talkback A. Let's hit it.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
This is David in Hendersonville, Tennessee. Wanted to thank you all for carrying on after rush. Back in 2021, I lost two of the most important people in my life. Rushling, Vaughn, my mother. So thank you all for carrying on and take care.
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Buck Sexton
Well, David in Tennessee, thank you so much for listening and condolences on your losses there. And yes, we all lost Rush five years ago yesterday, a voice that brought us all so much, so much comfort was a friend. Also. I just can't give a better answer than this. Whenever someone asked me, they say, how did you, how did you know you wanted to do talk radio? And how did you learn how to do talk radio? And the answer, the real answer is just listening to Rush. It's how I learned it's. How I know or how I knew that I wanted to do it. So there was. Yeah, it was. That's when someone has had that profound an effect on your life. As I sit here now doing radio for a living. Yeah, of course, you think back to it and the team, by the way, that is with us here, that pulled together a tribute for Rush that you could listen to yesterday. I know many of you did. Some of them have been were with rush for over 20 years. So you want to talk about someone that they remember in the fondest terms and had the most profound impact on their lives. The team that's still running this show today was with Rush for 20. Most of them were with Rush for 20 plus years. So we got all your emails and all of your feedback on our remembrance of Rush yesterday and we really do appreciate it and we every year, you know, every year we'll take that moment to say thank you for what he did and for the role that he played in so many of our lives as a trusted voice and a trusted friend and obviously a patriot for this country. Someone who did so much good. Now we have, like I said, we have Chip Roy coming up in the third hour. I want to get into this, the issue of where things are going with trans surgeries and the liability that now is emerging for those who have done surgery on minors. This is having a real effect. And there's some breaking news that is coming out about this that I want to address and we will get into that. And also I'll talk to you a little bit about how it very much does tie into my book Manufacturing Delusion, which like I said, neck and neck with that Jon Meachen book. Right? We gotta beat him. Guys, help me out. Get a copy. Manufacturing Delusion. Just like having fire alarms, every home should have Sabre products. These are non lethal protection devices for you and your family. Sabre. It's important you get the spelling on this one. S A B R E. S A B R E. The website is sabreradio.com. that's where you go. They've been in business 50 years. I know the CEO, I know the top product and design people there. They all rely on these products to defend themselves and their families. And when it comes to non lethal self defense, Sabre is the most trusted name in the business. Sabre home defense launcher delivers seven powerful impact or pepper projectiles. That's two more than most of the competitors out there. 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If you have a local bookstore, call them and see if they have it because that's great. We love to support our local bookstores. Otherwise, you know how to get it online. The audiobook, I read it and it is my voice. It is me reading the whole thing. So hopefully you like my voice. If you're listening to the show and you will enjoy listening to the audiobook as well. The. The book is, is doing well so far. I'm very sanguine about these things. You know, there's probably some, you know, some children's book about like a non binary polar bear that's going to, you know, rocket to the. Oh, whatever. The point is, for a political book, it's doing well and we have to beat Meacham's book because he's a smug lib who trashes Trump on msnbc. And there's a chapter in the book, though, where I get into what, what I was talking about yesterday a bit, which is menticide. And menticide is obviously killing of the brain, coined by Joost Meerloo, who was a psychiatrist and in the Second World War worked at, well, really debriefed Nazi prisoners of war and came to understand very much the Nazi. He did, he did counter propaganda for the Allies. Meerloo was a. He was Dutch and then as part of that was debriefing Nazis and learned about their propaganda efforts. But he came up with menticide, mental annihilation, the murder of the mind. And the ways that you achieve this. And confusion and degradation again are the twin pillars. If you're going to simplify it down. Confusion and degradation are essential. Now there are a Lot of ways to confuse people, a lot of ways to degrade people. You can confuse people by putting them in extreme isolation and bombarding them with. With noise, music, sounds. There's all these different things that you can do, or you can just be in a society where you are constantly bombarded with lies. Fire, fire hose of falsehood, it is called. It's actually a term taken from a Rand Rand study on this. And these are the ways that you can get people to believe crazy things. And it's not quite Pavlov's dogs, which we start out with. And Pavlov wasn't working on brainwashing, he was working on the brain body connection. Right? What, what can your brain process, whether it's sight, sound, what. What does your brain process in that way that then has actual physiological effect? And this is where we get the saliva, salivary reflex of dogs that had come to associate a metronome or a buzzer, not a bell, with feeding time. And unfortunately for a dog lover, you'll find out that Pavlov was quite rough with some of the dogs. Some of the. Some of the animal. Let's just say that there was no PETA. Some of this. Anyway, I won't get into this, but the point is this is. He was very much interested in the digestion of dogs and, and this was all to understand better how this works in the higher order creatures, human beings. But it turns out that even though there were some lessons from it, it's also really complicated. Some dogs are, as anyone knows now, he wasn't training dogs. Pavlov would have never said he was training dogs. He was exploring this brain body connection. And this is when nobody else really was doing this. So it was revolutionary work at the time. He was doing this, of course, before we knew what DNA was. He's doing this before the rise of widespread antibiotics. I mean, this was early. It was really turn of the 20th century and then the early 1920s, 1930s, when he was doing a lot of this work. And what you find is that each individual animal, again working with dogs here, had its own circuitry. And so some of them were much easier to get certain training through to. Or certain reflexes. It was actually conditional reflex in the original Russian. It wasn't just, you know, we think of this as like Pavlov and conditioning and conditioned, conditioned reflex. It was conditional reflex. And that's what he was looking at, the reflex of the brain into the body and how these things affect each other. So that was a revolutionary, as I said, revolutionary scientific discovery at the time. But always there was this, well, hold on. It works better with some dogs than others because they're not machines, just like we're not machines. We actually aren't machines. And our circuitry, our underlying biochemistry, our soul, these things take us out of the realm of science into something else, right? Something that can't yet be fully understood by charts and tables and data and beakers and Bunsen burners and all of this. Now that's worth noting because for each and every one of us, there's going to be different approaches that we have to be particularly mindful of and different things that will work on us. And we are in a society now that is, we are more bombarded with information than any other era of the human species. But by far, it is not even close. And you know, this is true. We carry around in our. I carry more knowledge with my smartphone, or at least access to more knowledge than existed in the, you know, the Great Library of Alexandria. I mean, there's, there's just, it's endless. But also because particularly of social media, there's a feeding and refeeding into the system and we have to become aware of, of how this is affecting our circuitry. Again, we use the. When we talk about ourselves, we use the language of, of electronics and robotics and. But of course, as I said, there's something different about us too. And even Pavlov noted that there's something that you can't just account for with experiments, charts and tables. We are all different. We're all unique. You might even say we're all created in God's image. And therefore there's something very special and unable to be charted on a graph about each and every one of us. But this is where I turn to how is it that we became a society with more knowledge, more advanced knowledge than anyone else before us, with discoveries and with computation and analysis truly unfathomable, even, I don't know, 100 years before, even in the time of the year, certainly the earlier days of Pavlov's research. And yet we are a society that has allowed children to have genital mutilation surgery in the furtherance of a mass hysteria, which is this transgender stuff. Something that is increasingly, and this is also why, you'll note, it is getting more desperate and more violent as an ideology, and it is, as it more clearly fails in every respect, which is often the case, right? People can become most dangerous when they are. Feel they're cornered and they have nothing to lose. This ideology, this transgenderism that became a true Culture, really a sort of mind virus that was spreading very rapidly. And it occurred in the 21st century overwhelmingly and really in the last 10 to 15 years is when this gained tremendous momentum. We're now seeing the pushback against this, a pushback against this mass hysteria. But I think that the way that we were able to get there. Oh, the, the, the news story, I should tell you, the, the breaking news on this is that NYU Langone hospital system has said that because of the current regulatory environment, environment, it will discontinue its gender medicine program for minors. This is a massive step forward. This is enormous. This goes to show you that just a few years ago there were people who were saying, it's never going to change. This is here to stay. There was a, there was a sense, even among people, I think, who recognized how wrong this was. There was a sense that this could be with us forever because the medical associations and big medicine and the hospitals and all this were pushing this and believed that somehow this was giving people care. And now, and now this is something that I think is going very clearly in the other direction. Here you go. This is. And someone in an interview, the Manhattan borough president, Brad Holly Hoyleman Siegel, it's a Manhattan borough president, not a doctor, said it was his understanding NYU Langone would no longer provide hormone treatment and other gender related care to transgender youth. Mr. Hoyleman Siegel said he was worried that some of NYU Langone's transgender patients would struggle to find doctors willing to continue their care. I'm horrified at the consequences. It's crucial they find alternative care. They deserve care. They should get care, psychiatric care. You are not a woman because you think you're a woman. That is not reality. That is not real. You can never become a woman. There is no surgery that can effectuate that. It is not reality. And that medicine entered the. And you know I'm right, you know, as I say those words, what I am saying is true. And the other side cannot defeat that truth. Everything they say is an obfuscation or an evasion or an emotional manipulation. But the fundamental truth that you cannot be some other gender, you cannot be the other because you deem it or wish it or insist on it being so. That reality is emerging right now in a way that I think is, I hope, going to continue with a momentum to stop this. Because at this point, it's just. You're saving young people from ruining their lives. I mean, every day that these systems are shut down or every day that they. This is horrible. The stuff that they are Doing and to do this kind of thing under the guise of medicine, it's such a betrayal of the Hippocratic oath, such a betrayal of medical ethics. It's very obvious. And this is why when you start to ask people, say, how do you fight against the manufacturing of delusions? When you ask honest questions, you should get answers or honest answers from people who are trying to push a certain point of view or push a policy. If all they want to do is shout you down and bully you, there's a problem. You know, you've established something with that. And for as long as there has been this transgender, really psychological contagion, this phenomenon, as long as this has been ascendant in this country, it has been clear that if you ask questions about this, the people who push it don't want to answer your questions and they want you to shut up or else. And they will hurt you. They will hurt your career, as we've seen. They'll do more than just hurt your career. There is something obviously of the radical in these individuals. There is a sense that this is not something they're willing to discuss. Really. What other area of medicine are they? Are we not able to have a conversation about, hey, what are the long term prospects for this? What are the failure rates? What are the complications? I can ask any doctor in America that about a knee surgery and they're, you know, if they're a decent doctor, they'll sit down and they'll talk to me. But if I want to get, you know, you know how many times I've tried to get a transgender doctor in the past to come on a show and explain the procedure and what's possible. It's not. They won't do it. They won't do it. Why not? Oh, because, you know, you're mean and you're right wing. No, I actually really want to know. I want people to know the reality of this, that NYU Langone is. And I just. These Democrats too are saying, oh, where are they going to get care? You mean where are teenage girls going to find a doctor that's willing to surgically remove their breasts because they're going through a psychiatric disorder? Hopefully nowhere, because it's not going to turn out well for them. And if it was going to turn out well for them, by the way, don't you think we would all have the long term data and the studies, they just say that we don't have these things. We don't have these studies. They do some observational study they run. It's just like with COVID they just try to smother you with credentialed nonsense and hope that you shut up and stop asking the obvious questions. They want you to be a part of of the manufactured delusion. Get the book. This is now. This is current. This really matters. Power outages are happening with greater frequency across our country. And weather disruptions are one reason why wildfire preparation is another. 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When the world goes quiet, make sure you don't communication redefined only@rapid radios.com News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Chip Roy coming up here in a few minutes, Congressman Chip Roy of Texas talking about the SAVE act, talking about the government, partial government shutdown, and bring it to speed on all the politics. That's what we do here. That's how we roll. Mr. Clay will be back with you tomorrow. Both of us will be back with you tomorrow. So it'll be a regularly scheduled program with both of us and. Yeah. Vicki in Michigan, you want chat? Let's go. Vicki in Michigan.
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Caller Vicki
Hello.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, you're on the air. We're all listening. Hey, Vicki, how you doing? Hi.
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Caller Vicki
Thank you for having me. I just wanted to say thank you first. I'm a big fan. I listen to Rush as well, and I know that it's not a popular view sometimes what you and Clay are saying. So I just wanted to thank you for standing up against the transgender craze, the surgeries. I have two close friends whose kids both had surgeries and it just. It affected them so much. They're just. It's Breaks up a family.
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Buck Sexton
So.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, I just.
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Caller Vicki
I just wanted to thank you and.
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Buck Sexton
No, of course. Oh, well, please get the. Probably. Please get that.
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Caller Vicki
Sorry.
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Buck Sexton
I said please get that book. No probably. Go get it.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
I will.
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Caller Vicki
Thank you, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
Thanks so much. All right, thanks for calling in. So we've also got podcast listener Mark from Tennessee F on the talk back. Hit it. I finished your book already.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
It's fantastic. It reinforces some of the things I've thought about. The changes in the definition of words have occurred a lot in my 70 years.
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Buck Sexton
Example, vaccine.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
What you say is so, so true. Thank you. Shields.
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Buck Sexton
High shield time, Mark. Thank you. And yeah, I get that's part of the propaganda portion of the book, which I haven't talked about as much, but that's another part of manipulating your perception and controlling your mind. Propaganda. All the military guys listening are like, yeah, you know, information operations. We know all about this. Right? Opsec psyops. I'm sorry? Psyops. Not opsec Psyops. And psychological operations and controlling language is a big part of this. Even Orwell noted this. In fact, news speak was a term that Orwell popularized. Oh, you're like, buck, What? Get the book, everybody. This is a book that's meant to be read. It is short, it is readable, it is punchy, it is packed with information. You will learn cool stuff from the book. You will be glad you read it. I promise you. I would not put some nonsense out there. You will learn lots of historical fact. You will learn the tactics of mind control, and you will rip through this book in a weekend. Get manufacturing delusion wherever you get your books. Back in a moment.
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