The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 – "Mess Around and Find Out" (November 21, 2025)

Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Date: November 21, 2025
Episode Theme:
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton break down the latest political firestorm regarding a Democratic “PSA” video about military orders under a potential future Trump presidency, Trump’s heated response, and the broader battle over media narratives, “seditious” behavior, and political violence. Throughout, the hosts infuse their characteristic humor, sharp criticism, and listener engagement on issues of trust, hypocrisy, and political double standards.

Episode Overview

Hour 2 of the show centers on a viral video from Democratic lawmakers warning military and intelligence community members not to follow "illegal orders"—a thinly veiled shot at Donald Trump. The hosts delve into the political motivations, Trump’s fiery online response, and a wider discussion about the rhetoric of political violence and the double standards in how the left and right are treated by media and public figures. Listener emails and calls round out the hour, offering further perspective and critique.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Democrat Military "PSA" Video (01:35-05:55)

• Context: Democrats, including Mark Kelly and Alyssa Slotkin, released a video advising military/intel personnel they "don't have to do war crimes"—implying fears about Trump’s return.
• Buck Sexton’s Take: Calling the video patronizing and unnecessary, Buck mocks the implication:
  • “Wouldn't it be really off-putting if you sat down at Thanksgiving dinner and one of your relatives... was like, you know, you don't have to murder anybody...? Uncle Mort needs a nap.” (03:40)
• Broader Critique: Sexton and Travis argue this move is a calculated political jab, intended to undermine trust in Trump as commander-in-chief and in the military chain of command itself.

2. Trump’s Explosive Social Media Response (05:55-10:30)

• Trump's Posts: Trump called the participating Democrats "traitors," floated the idea of them being "locked up" and referenced “seditious behavior punishable by death."
• Buck’s Legal Note: He clarifies that "you can actually be, under our federal laws, executed for treason" but muses on whether that applies to sedition—not a call to action, but a fact. (06:55)
• Democrat Response: Democrats release a joint statement, with Chuck Schumer dramatizing the threat:
  • Schumer: “The President of the United States is calling for the execution of elected officials. This is an outright threat and it’s deadly serious… Every time Donald Trump posts things like this, he makes political violence more likely.” (09:15)

3. The Media’s Double Standard & The Rhetoric of Violence (10:30-15:18)

• Buck’s Argument: The left is quick to amplify fears of right-wing violence while downplaying or ignoring left-wing incidents:
  • “A left wing maniac almost assassinated President Trump. A left wing maniac shot and almost assassinated Steve Scalise... Show me one time a left wing speaker has shown up at campus and it was conservative… Doesn't happen.” (10:55)
  • "The political rhetoric is not equivalent on both sides and the political violence is not equivalent on both sides. Efforts to pretend otherwise are simply dishonest." (12:20)
• Critique of “Fascist” Label: The hosts claim that by labeling conservatives or Trump as Nazis, Democrats rationalize or excuse left-wing violence.

4. Mark Kelly’s Defense & Republican Critique (15:18-21:00)

• Kelly’s Statement: Mark Kelly defends his participation, referencing Trump’s "dangerous ideas" and recalling the alleged “shoot protesters in the legs” remark.
  • Kelly: “He didn’t give the order, but it’s obviously rattling around in his head. He’s got these ideas, and these are dangerous ideas.” (15:56)
• Buck’s Retort: Scoffs at Kelly, arguing that Democrats weaponize their military service as a shield from criticism. He also alludes to Kelly’s own political ambitions and lack of national appeal.
• Masculinity & Values: The hosts criticize what they perceive as an incongruence between military valor and progressive stances on social issues, offering an extended riff on “normal dudes” versus Democratic candidates.

5. Listener Engagement: Emails and Calls (18:59, 39:23)

• VIP Email – Warner: Claims the Democratic video borders on encouraging a military coup, not a simple PSA.
• Callers Weigh In:
  • Woody (Arizona): Points out that the video includes accusations of Trump using the military "against American citizens," which he calls a "flat-out lie." (21:00)
  • Sherry (Cincinnati): Uses a soccer analogy to explain how Democrats “jab and jab” and play the victim once they receive pushback.
  • Jay (Florida): Frustrated by lack of accountability, argues Democrats' actions skirt treason, “planting seeds of doubt” about lawful orders and military division.

6. Secondary Segment—“Jeffrey Epstein” Mix-up (33:00-36:20)

• The Mishap: Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett mistakenly associated political donations from the living Dr. Jeffrey Epstein (a Long Island physician) with the deceased financier sex criminal—a source of amusement for the hosts.
• Dr. Epstein’s Response:
  • “If my name was Jeffrey Dahmer when the whole thing came out, do you think that would be a good problem?... The only thing that bothers [me] about having the name Jeffrey Epstein is people calling me to ask me these questions.” (34:00)
• The hosts muse humorously about notorious names and the practicality of changing them.

7. Civility in Public Life and Air Travel (43:19-46:20)

• Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy’s PSA: Encourages kindness and civility while traveling during the holidays.
  • Duffy: “Are you helping a pregnant woman put her bag in the overhead bin? Are you dressing with respect? Are you keeping control of your children?... The golden age of travel begins with you.” (44:05)
• Buck’s Commentary: Applauds the message, lamenting the “pandemic” of poor manners in public places like airports and movie theaters.
  • “There is a lack of manners that is a pandemic. If only perhaps we could get some masks and some PSAs to go along with them. No, really. But it is a pandemic of no manners, and it's very frustrating, and we don't need Fauci to tell us that.” (45:10)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buck Sexton on Dems’ PSA:
  “Imagine if you kind of kept yelling it at you. You’d be like, ‘Uncle Mort needs a nap. Like something’s wrong with this guy.’ We did not need to hear from these individuals and we did not need the lecture.” (03:40)

• Chuck Schumer doubles down:
  "The President of the United States is calling for the execution of elected officials. This is an outright threat and it's deadly serious." (09:30)

• Buck on Nazi analogies:
  “By calling us Nazis, they're just convincing themselves that... they're always morally in a superior position. And two, if some of their more radical elements decide to engage in violence... Well, by their own logic, aren’t they stopping a fascist?” (13:10)

• Sherry (caller) on Dem tactics:
  “They jab and jab and jab and knife from the back. And then when you dare to come up against them, oh, I’m the one who was hurt. I’m the poor victim. And it’s so infuriating.” (39:40)

• Dr. Epstein on sharing his name:
  "If my name was Jeffrey Dahmer when the whole thing came out, do you think that would be a good problem?... The only thing that bothers [me] about having the name Jeffrey Epstein is people like you calling me to ask me these questions." (34:00)

• Buck on manners pandemic:
  “There is a lack of manners that is a pandemic... It is a pandemic of no manners, and it's very frustrating, and we don't need Fauci to tell us that.” (45:10)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Democrats' "unlawful orders" PSA, Trump’s “traitor/death” response: 01:35 – 10:30
• Chuck Schumer’s reaction & political violence double standard: 10:30 – 13:30
• Mark Kelly’s defense / masculinity riff: 15:18 – 17:31
• Listener email/calls on the PSA’s implications: 18:59, 39:23
• The Jeffrey Epstein name mixup: 33:00 – 36:20
• Sean Duffy’s airline civility PSA and Buck on manners in public: 43:19 – 46:20

Tone & Style

The episode is fast-paced, sarcastic, and richly opinionated—typical of Clay and Buck’s on-air dynamic. Both hosts blend serious cultural analysis with humor and a touch of mockery, often employing analogies (“Uncle Mort,” soccer and flopping in football) to underscore their frustration with the current state of political and civil discourse.

Useful for New Listeners

For those who haven’t tuned in: this hour is a robust snapshot of the show’s core themes—combative political commentary, cultural criticism, and anecdotes from both hosts and callers, all interwoven with humor and a clear conservative/libertarian perspective. The big takeaway: the politicization of the military, the battle for narrative control, and the growing sense that institutional trust (in politics and public civility alike) is at an all-time low.