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Buck Sexton
Welcome, everybody. Second hour of play and buck kicks off right now. And over the weekend, the Pentagon conducted the 21st known strike on a drug trafficking boat. This continuing on here, the war on drugs looking more like an actual war these days than any time in a long time. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen joins us right now and appreciate you joining. Senator, thank you for your time.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Absolutely. Thanks for having me on.
Buck Sexton
So these strikes, there's a lot of questions that people are asking about them. Some just want to know more. Some obviously very much are opposing them in the media, including some Republicans, some Senate colleagues, at least one I can think of. Let's talk about whether they're working. What are they, what can we say about how effective these strikes are at this point? Do we not know? Is there a drop in fentanyl importation via these boats? You know, because I think that's a big part of whether or not we can say that this is a program that the American people are going to continue with.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Yeah, I think it's important for us to see the big picture. And so I'll get to that in just a second. But let's talk about what your questions were. Have we seen a drop in fentanyl? Have we seen a drop in cocaine trafficking? Absolutely. And the biggest measuring stick to that is the price on the street. I know it sounds crazy, but, you know, everything is supply and demand. We've seen a significant increase in the price of fentanyl and the price of cocaine because their shipping lanes are being cut off. The president is being very proactive on his approach. Rather than waiting until it gets to our shores, he has taken approach that we're going to, we're going to destroy it in international water, which has put everybody on notice because it's not just coming out of Venezuela. You know, we saw an attack on, we saw a taking on a narco boat in the Pacific, too. And so what the president is doing here because he realizes that we've lost more Americans in 2024. We haven't got the statistics yet for 2025, but in 2024, we lost more Americans to fentanyl and other drug overdoses inside the United States. And we did the entire Vietnam War. That's a staggering number because every single one of your listeners, including yourself and I know somebody that has been affected by this drug war that has come to our hometowns. Be it the small, the small town like Westville, Oklahoma or a large metropolitan area like Dallas Fort Worth, it has affected all of our streets, has affected all of our friends and family. It's affected some of us. So what the, what the president has done is he's done a full court approach. It's not just about taking out the drug boats, the narco boats, but it's also about getting rid of their supply lines of once it gets into the United States, the distribution lines plus the cash flowing back out to the cartels. So when the president deemed the cartels a terrorist organization, what allowed is the full way to the United States to come in? And so you see dhs, you know, Secretary Nome and ICE going into these major metropolitan areas. A lot of people think it's just about deporting illegal immigrants, but it's not. It's also disturbing their supply lines. We see a Department of Transportation with Secretary Duffy that's doing stops inside the United States. There's a actual, as we speak, there's an operation going on in Oklahoma right now where we're stopping trucks, we're doing drugs or searches, but we're also arresting illegals, their supply lines with the illegals that are coming into the United States illegally. The drug, the gangs like MS.13 and other gangs that are being used to distribute and supply different areas inside the United States. DHS is taking a hard look. So we're pushing them from the end of their supply all the way back into Venezuela, back into Mexico, back where it's going. Plus we're being proactive with the drugs coming into the United States. So it's the first time ever, ever that we've had a full pledge, all out assault on the drug cartels. And we're having a huge, huge impact. So a lot of people need to look past just the narco boats but also understand what we're doing inside our cities and on our and on our interstates.
Clay Travis
Senator, how troubled? Buck and I started off the show today talking about the revelations. I'm sure you've seen them from Tucker Carlson, Miranda Devine about the would be Trump assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania. The fact that he appears to have been radicalized on YouTube, posting violent threats in the comments there. Again, this is based on their reporting. We have been told, hey, we'll never know really the motivations of this guy from our FBI based on the reports that I've seen. How troubled are you that these media investigations seem to show trans related Connections, an incredibly violent commentary under the guy's own name on YouTube. Should, should we be concerned about this and what should happen going forward as it pertains to that assassination investigation?
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Well, I think there's no one more motivated to get to the root of the problem than President Trump. He's the one that got his ear shot and he's one that they've tried to satnik two different times. And so he's extremely motivated to prevent it honestly from happening to him again. Plus the Secret Service. And then you take Cash Patel who loves the President, and Pam Bondi, who loves the President. We all do. We're all walking in the same direction in the same boat. Roll in the same direction. I kind of take a step back when you chase so many conspiracies, especially some of these news reporters, if they want to call that or commentary or talk show host when they concert chasing conspiracy theories and they believe a conspiracy theory is the truth. Because anybody can say something online and you can run an AI search and it doesn't do a deep dive for you. All it does is take the information that's on the Internet and you can persuade any algorithm to be to come up with whatever you want it to come up with. And so I always take a step back. I believe in facts. And it's really hard for me to believe that someone like Tucker Carlson would have a better research department than the FBI. I read intel reports on this stuff, a lot of stuff that, that the public won't be able to see because they don't have the same type of clearances, which it will be very hard for a lot of this stuff to be released because it, it's not that we're trying to protect the shooter's identity. It's because we try to protect the tradecraft on how we access this information. And in a lot of times, when we see how we gather that trade that information, it releases the tradecraft that these I see the intelligence community uses. But I have seen nothing, period to support Tucker Carlson's theory on this one. Not saying it can't be realistic, but I just don't believe it until I actually see it. I don't, I don't have time to chase theories.
Buck Sexton
Speaking of Senator Mark Wade Mullen and sir, you're on the Armed Services Committee. I want to just pivot back for a second to the drug boat strikes 21. So far over 80 people killed. Senator Rand Paul, your Republican colleague is very against these. He has recently said things like color.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Ran as a Republican colleague is Pretty loose lipped.
Buck Sexton
So I mean he is a Republican colleague. I mean we can, we can talk about how you feel about that, but he definitely is a Republican senator. So what do you think about the concerns about legality when it comes to these strikes?
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Well, I don't, I think the President's well within his authority to do so because it's very clear that these are terrorist organizations. They are attacking us, attacking our streets. They're domestic terrorists plus foreign terrorists. The President is well within his rights to be able to protect United States citizens home and abroad, not in our intellectual property and our person self. It that's well within, within his constitutional authority to do so. And, and so for Rand Paul to quote that I always, what I always say is say okay, give me in the Constitution where it's not in his authority to do that because people always say it's outside the Constitution. Okay, show me, show me. The Constitution is very, very thin. It's not hard to read. It's. You can read it in 20 minutes if you want to. Pull, pull out the part that Rand Paul is talking about. But this is the same Rand Paul that doesn't vote with Republicans to open government. He just recently was trying to support his plan to enhance THC levels for consumption in drinks because he thought it was good for Kentucky's, not joking, good for Kentucky's industry, for hemp industry. This is the same Rand Paul that is constantly looking for an opportunity to run against the President of the United States. And so he's looking for an opportunity anytime he can to distance himself. I would be a lot better off if Rand Paul just called himself what he is. He's a libertarian. I'm perfectly okay with that. But he can't get elected as a Libertarian in Kentucky so he decides to run as a Republican. You know, I have more respect for Thomas Massie than I do Rand Paul. And because at least Thomas Massey owns who he is. Rand Paul is just whoever he feels like to be that day.
Clay Travis
We're talking to center Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. You were at a big football game over the weekend. This is much less serious than everything else. I know you were hanging out with.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Serious topics between Alabama and Oklahoma. Football is a very serious topic.
Clay Travis
So you were at that game with your, with Senator Katie Britt of Alabama. We just had. You may not, you probably don't know this because we just had him on, but Paul Feinbaum, who I know you know, SEC network commentator, is thinking about running for Senate in Alabama. You were at the Alabama Oklahoma game. Congrats to the Sooners, huge win there. What do you think of Paul Fine Bomb as a potential Senate colleague from Alabama? And for everybody out there listening, you got the opportunity to go after some Alabama fans over the big win and celebrate. For all the Oklahomans out there listening.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Well, first of all, Alabama was very gracious. I have never been to an sec, came outside of Norman, Oklahoma. It was amazing. Hats off to Alabama, hats off to their fans. My hats off to Tuscaloosa because that whole town turns out for football and it was a amazing environment. Glad we pulled off the win. But in the little part, I was like, oh, I'm kind of almost sad for this group because this whole town has to go into depression now because they got beat by the University of Oklahoma. But it was, it was, you know, we had the first pick six. I was sitting in the president's box for the University of Alabama and super nice guy and I hollered because I got my ou, you know, wrestling because my son wrestled through University of Oklahoma and I got my OU wrestling shirt on and one of the guys walked up to him and he says, I was going to give you, I'm using clean language here. I was going to give you crap about hollering in the president's box, but I thought better of it when I saw your shirt said wrestling. We just kind of laughed about it. But that was kind of group. It was. Now, as far as anybody, this isn't particular for anybody, as far as anybody willing to put their name on any ballot and run for any office. I don't care if it's school board, city council, mayor, state rep, state senate, sheriff, county commissioner, or for a federal office. I commend you for doing that. And no one knows what type of person the candidate's going to be, but we need good people that have a passion for our country, not a passion for a title to run for, to run for office. And my measuring stick is this is your best job you've ever had, then I would question your ability to do what is best for your decision making. Because if it's the most money you've made and it's the biggest title you've had, then are you willing to fire yourself? Because we're all somewhat self employed, but we have a whole bunch of shareholders across our state and we're the chairman of the board to some degree. So our board can fire us at any given time. But it's pretty hard to be, to be fired because you can get your votes right half the time either. Yes, or. No, it's just how you articulate yourself. And what type of tough votes are you willing to take? And so for anybody, anybody to stand up and run, great. Just have the right motives to do so. And anybody decides to run, we're going to sit down, we're going to talk to them, and we may or may not get involved in the primary. It really depends. Usually I don't get involved in primaries unless it's somebody I know personally and. But when they win a primary, were all in to get them across the finish line. Let them come. Come be part of the team.
Clay Travis
Outstanding stuff. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. Congrats to the Sooners. I'm glad that you had the wrestling shirt on so the president didn't come after you too hard at the University of Alabama. And Buck's been down there and can speak for the hospitality of the people of Tuscaloosa. First game Buck ever went to was Ole Miss Alabama college football.
Buck Sexton
It was amazing. I had all these fraternity brothers handing me red plastic cups and saying they love outkick. It was quite a scene.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Hey, it was an amazing Buck. It's an amazing environment. I've never seen anything like that in my life. I want to go back just to just enjoy the environment. Just when they're not playing a University of Oklahoma.
Clay Travis
Outstanding stuff, Senator. We appreciate the time. Keep up the good work.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Thanks. See you guys. Bye.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Mark Wade Mullen came in the show just throwing elbows, throwing punches in every direction. Bogus. Like the Royal Rumble there.
Buck Sexton
Did he, did he put Rand Paul in the. Is that the Kimura it's called in mma, Is that right? Or the. I gotta think of some MMA terminology. Like what is it when the, like a arm bar. He put him in an arm bar.
Clay Travis
Rear Naked Choke.
Senator Markwayne Mullin
Whoa.
Clay Travis
It sounds, it sounds a little bit tougher than. I mean it's a, it's a wrestling move, I promise. Look, I. Throwing elbows. I do think we should talk more because he seemed very skeptical of, to be fair, what we started the show with, which is the New York Post Miranda Devine. You have her on tomorrow. So you will be able to walk through all of this directly with her and Tucker Carlson's revelations on the would be assassin social media accounts. Now I'm not an expert in, in deep dive investigations, thankfully when it comes to criminal related issues, but I read and looked at this. It looked very real to me. It doesn't seem like something that is faked, but I don't know. I mean, what's your take on that?
Buck Sexton
I, I mean, look, Tucker's team came out with it. They said they vetted it. I think that at some level when you are seeing some of the names that are involved in this, this is a, this is an issue of fact. Yes. It's not an issue of opinion. And so to get an issue of fact like this, very wrong. Which would then lead to the New York Post, Daily Mail, other top global news sources reporting on it as fact incorrectly as well. We, we've talked about it, obviously attributing it's not our reporting, but attributing the reporting to the initial source, that, that would be a big, A, big error. But I think that this is pretty straightforward.
Clay Travis
Yeah, I mean the New York Post got everything right on Hunter Biden and the laptop when everybody else was accusing them. Miranda Devine nailed that entire story.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Yeah, look, I mean, the data doesn't change the prices. I went to Subway last night with my 15 year old subway. Oh, I love Subway.
Buck Sexton
Really? Yeah.
Clay Travis
Oh, yeah. You don't like Subway?
Buck Sexton
I can't eat the bread, so I.
Clay Travis
Can'T really do it well. So here's an example of something where my eyebrows get raised. We each had 6 inch subs, right? And a drink and a chips. $30. $30 for two 6 inch subs, some chips and a drink. Now you can say, you know, what do you think it should cost? To me, it should be $20, right?
Buck Sexton
And.
Clay Travis
And then they want me to tip, right? Which gets into a whole nother dynamic where everything that you buy now, they give you the tip response, even when you know it's a fast food restaurant.
Buck Sexton
Now, can I give you, can I give you my, my sense on this, by the way? Because this is something that I've decided. You know what, People work hard. You know, neither you nor I are worried about our month to month bills. We both have been at times in our lives.
Clay Travis
Totally.
Buck Sexton
But you and I do not worry about month to month bills. Now, I will never forget being in my 30s after, you know, serving in a couple of war zones and working for over a decade. And I had $500 to my name. You know, the thing like Dave Ramsey or whatever, you gotta get the thousand dollar emergency. I did not have the thousand dollar emergency fund. Okay? I was in my 30s, did not have the thousand dollar emergency fund. That is a fact. But I just decide now, you know what? Just, just tipping is now just a way of thanking people for just showing up and doing a job. You know what I'm saying? It's not like, oh, you gave me great service, so I'm gonna give you 30. Clay the coffee. In my neighborhood, obviously I have a coffee company. I drink rocket every day. But occasionally I want to be social. I'll meet someone for a cup of coffee or something. It's like $9 for a client crew over there. Yeah, $9. And then if I. But, but again, I think of this now, if you're in a position to fine, you Know the people. I know the people in there, they show up, they're kind, they work hard. I give them 30%, I give them 25%. Whatever. And just because I think if you start to think of this the way we used to think of tipping as a incentive for good service, you're going to go insane. Because everyone wants a tip for I tip now when I do takeout food. Yes.
Clay Travis
I decided when I had a public job that people could say a lot of awful things about me. I legitimately don't think, I think open phone lines right now. And to the extent that anybody who's ever been a waiter at a restaurant I've ever been to, I think every one of them would call in and be, say, Clay Travis, a great tipper. So I decided a long time ago when I started doing radio.
Buck Sexton
But I also just, can I say it's also just good. I'm not sure if one believes in karma. I use that not in the religious sense, but in just the, you know, the, the, the passing along. Look, you've been very fortunate in life. You've done incredibly well. You know, it can really make someone's day a little brighter when you throw them a 30 tip on that, you know, whatever $100 meal, 200, whatever it is.
Clay Travis
Right.
Buck Sexton
I mean it's just, it's, it's kind of a high five to people who are working hard and having worse. So I'm just saying I've had, because I've had to. I've talked to my wife about this because she's like, what do you. I'm. Now I just, I just hit whatever it is, the 20. I just hit it. Don't think about it. Hit it. Don't think. By the way, I'm not saying all of everyone. I get it, people are, People have to do what's within their budget. But I just mean if you're in a position to just sort of take a different philosophy on this one. I just think tip big and don't think twice about it. Is the. Is just the only way forward.
Clay Travis
It's a good, it's a good life, I think for those of us who can afford it. $30 buck though. $15 each for a 6 inch sub. And this was not to the extent you guys don't go to Subway. This was a chicken sandwich and like a turkey and cheese sandwich. Right? Not, not even. We're not talking about the most high end to the extent that there are any. This is not lobster and caviar on the buns. Right. $30, to me, it seems like it should cost 20. This, I think, is the biggest challenge that Trump has when it comes to affordability. It's not the truth, which is he has slowed the rate of price increases. It's that things went up so fast you snapped your fingers and overnight everything started costing 35% more than it used to when Joe Biden became president. Joe Biden's not president now. Things still cost 35% more than you think they should. Again, I bought that $30 subway. I paid and I thought to myself, how is, how is a Subway meal for me and my 15 year old $30 now a 6 inch? I'm not even buying a foot long? How is it that expensive? And I think every time people go to the grocery store, I think every time people go through fast food, you look at the bill and you just say, this is too much. And this makes me angry. So I, I think the biggest challenge Trump has is how awful Biden was because it's, it's going to take years for people to come to recognize what things cost now. And he's trying to address it. He's doing a, an event today on affordability. He's been trying to address prices in a way that is making them better. Positive gas prices are actually lower, adjusted for inflation than they have been in most of our lives. They're down four year lows right now. I know they tick up sometimes back and forth and people respond. Different states have different prices, different taxes on it. Those of you in California are screwed, as we talked about with Steve Hilton last week. But I think it's the number one issue that Trump faces now. Borders better. Crime is getting so much better. And again, it can take a while for the perception to reflect the reality. But I think most people out there feel like crime is getting better. Not that it's fixed, but it's better. Borders fixed. I think it's the number one issue.
Buck Sexton
We also border. Border and the economy, those are the two. And they were the main things in the last election. And now when we say the economy, I really do think it's cost of living. Now there is a, I'm not, I'm not somebody who necessarily thinks this is going to happen. I think it's possible. But some of the productivity gains that should come from AI and from technology could have dramatic price factor as, or could dramatically factor into pricing in ways that matter to all of us. The world is going to change very rapidly, my friends, over the next five to 10 years. And there are so many ways that we can start to think about this. But the ability, for example, to program into your car where to go and it just drives you, that's already here. That's already happening. And that's going to have a dramatic effect not just on the, on the economics of who are drivers for a living, which is a big concern what happens to the millions of people who are making a living driving right now, but clay also in the efficiencies of delivery and the cost of goods to get them from one place to another. And there's a lot of increases in productivity that are going to happen that I think will help on this price issue. But fundamentally, we also have to look at this as Covid essentially turned into a let's just see how much we can inflate our currency game. You cannot pay people to stay home and do nothing and not have a massive effect on your currency. Otherwise they should just give everybody a million dollars tomorrow. Just the federal government. You know, we're all paying. Well, not all of us, but a lot of us are paying taxes. Federal government could just send you a million dollar wire tomorrow. It wouldn't make any difference, right? Oh, no. It'll destroy our currency and destroy our economy. Covid was a massive inflation event for the country that we are still dealing with. Some of us were warning about it then, but people were like, oh, my gosh, Fauci, it's so scary. Fauci. Ouchie. And then on top of that, we have a $37 trillion debt and we monetize the debt. We carry all this stuff on the Fed balance sheet and then we pay for it ourselves by putting out the treasuries, and the whole thing is a mess. This is debasing the currency. We're debasing the currency and then we turn around and say, why is the currency being debased and why are things more expensive? Because as a matter of bipartisan policy, we continue to do that. Now, Trump is a lot better than the other side. He's trying to get it under control, but debt's still $37 trillion. Nothing is even beginning to deal with that issue. So it's a challenge.
Clay Travis
And again, I think it's something that is going to be hard to get resolved by 2026. And the challenge is people are angry. And when you try to respond to anger over price issues, you risk looking like you don't understand their anger, which makes them angrier. And so again, I get it. I spent $30 for two 6 inch subway meals last night. And Subway is supposed to be an affordable place to go. And again, this was not like some super high end meal.
Buck Sexton
Did they have whispering Angel Rose at Subway, Clay? Because I hear that's your favorite.
Clay Travis
Can't believe it. Yeah, I'm sorry, It's just Kaylee McEnany now, Buck. I never know when I'm just going to get leveled. Going over the middle, thinking we're going to commercial break right now.
Buck Sexton
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Rainbow sandals.
Buck Sexton
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Shh.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show all right, I'm going to have to get ahead of this sorry metastasizing in a negative way. I think to myself, you know what, what could go wrong if I did a Fox News hit on Saturday morning for our friend Kayleigh McEnany's new very successful Saturday morning Fox News show. And especially the case when I'm doing it with my good chum Buck Sexton. So I sit down and as the hit is going on, this outrageous attack upon my character aired for millions of people and now it's going to air for millions more.
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Clay Travis
Wasn't a great collection of alcohol at the table.
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Buck Sexton
Can I just love that Kayleigh McEnany who is so delightful and wonderful throwing a little elbow into your ribs right before the right, right before you're basically cut off the mic there, buddy. You know, I know she, she hip checked you. What is it in the hockey when you hip check somebody and they go over the, the thing where on the side it was like in the boards.
Clay Travis
You got into the boards. Yeah. And look, she just tweeted this as well, sharing the video. I did not take at Clay Travis to be a whispering angel. Man at Buck Sexton looks stunned now. I, I'm not a wine guy. I have, I have on for years on this program pointed out and we always get angry emails whenever I say this. All of you buying your thousand dollar wine. No idea what you if you have a couple of glasses of wine, you can't tell a thousand dollar wine from a $50 wine.
Buck Sexton
This is like Clay talking about classical music. The barbarians are winning. I don't know what to tell you.
Clay Travis
I at Julie Talbot's big induction into the hall of Fame, well deserved hall of Fame induction, there was a gentleman there who had a huge big bottle of wine and it was like a two thousand dollar bottle of wine jumbo thing. I had a glass and I said man, it tastes just like almost as good as the box wine I had back in the day. Now here's the deal. When this is at the Patriot Awards, the Patriot Awards great event lasts like three hours and when you sit down at the table, all they had was water and wine and unlike Jesus, I can't turn water into wine. So I just decided that I was going to drink the wine and I took the bottle of wine. Tommy Lahren sitting next to me. Kayleigh McEnany's next to me and I just poured myself a glass and you're.
Buck Sexton
Sitting with two lovely, lovely blonde ladies and you decide to join in on their favorite beverage and have some chick wine right there. That's how this goes.
Clay Travis
I thought why would I be mean to them and make a big fuss? Because there wasn't bourbon or there wasn't my beverage of choice. I, being the generous person that I am, also Emily Campagno, same table, Jesse Waters, Benny Johnson. And.
Buck Sexton
And.
Clay Travis
And I thought, hey, I don't want to be the stuck up guy who's going to fight back against the rose. And you know what? It tasted pretty good. I'm not going to lie. But she took a photo of me and now she has attacked me on air. This reminds me of the Brussels sprouts debate when. Remember when Jesse Kelly got furious at me for ordering brussels sprouts for. For thinking about everyone else my harm?
Buck Sexton
Well, he was trying to get back at you for order. Oh no, you were. Wait, no. Who ordered the 70? He ordered their 70 shots.
Clay Travis
He's the bad guy in all these things. My only flaw is that I care too much and that I'm just too kind when I'm sharing a table with people. I'm not picky. I'll drink your rose. I'll order brussels sprouts. I'll even let you order $75 shots.
Buck Sexton
I do think that there is a rule where you don't lose your man card if you're on a vacation to a warm place and you just want to try the froze. You know, it looks so inviting. It's like a slushy with booze in it. So if you're going to froze all day, I guess rose could be okay.
Clay Travis
I believe. Also I went with the the lighter colored wine because I was afraid that I might spill it on myself too. Which for anybody out there who knows me, is probably a good move. Outrageous attack. We'll have more outrageous attacks when we return on clay.
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And Buck. Shh.
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Episode: Hour 2 - Narco-Terrorism (November 17, 2025)
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In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the U.S. government's aggressive new approach to narco-terrorism, focusing on recent military strikes on drug trafficking boats and increased efforts to disrupt cartel supply lines both at sea and within American cities. Senator Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma joins the show for a wide-ranging discussion on these anti-cartel operations, the legal justification for such actions, the broader impact on domestic drug and crime issues, and the political rifts such operations are creating, even within the Republican Party.
The second half of the hour finds Clay and Buck pivoting to the ongoing investigation into the would-be Trump assassin, touching on media versus government narratives, and rounding out the episode with a discussion of economic angst, the rising cost of living, and a few lighter moments about SEC football, personal lives, and playful media jabs.
Timestamp: 02:51–07:26
Context: The Pentagon conducted its 21st known strike on a drug trafficking boat over the weekend, as part of an escalating 'war on drugs' that looks increasingly militarized.
Senator Markwayne Mullin on Effectiveness: Mullin explains the multifaceted nature of the initiative—disrupting supply lines before drugs reach U.S. shores and breaking up cartel infrastructure in American cities.
"The biggest measuring stick ... is the price on the street. We've seen a significant increase in the price of fentanyl and the price of cocaine because their shipping lanes are being cut off."
—Sen. Markwayne Mullin (04:20)
Broader Approach: Mullin praises the all-out ‘full court’ approach: not just striking at sea, but also interdicting drugs within U.S. borders, targeting cash flows, and classifying the cartels as terrorist organizations to expand federal action.
Domestic Operations: Describes ongoing nationwide operations, including truck stops and searches in Oklahoma, aiming at both trafficked drugs and illegal immigrants tied to cartel activity.
"It's the first time ever that we've had a full pledge, all out assault on the drug cartels."
—Sen. Markwayne Mullin (07:13)
Timestamp: 10:20–12:46
Rand Paul’s Opposition: Buck brings up Senator Rand Paul's public concerns regarding the legality of these military strikes.
Mullin’s Response: Mullin strongly defends the President's authority under the Constitution to combat terrorist threats, calling out Rand Paul's positions as inconsistent and labeling him "a libertarian who can't get elected as one in Kentucky."
"The President is well within his rights to be able to protect United States citizens home and abroad ... people always say it's outside the Constitution. Okay, show me, show me."
—Sen. Markwayne Mullin (11:04)
"I would be a lot better off if Rand Paul just called himself what he is. He's a libertarian. I'm perfectly okay with that. But he can't get elected as a Libertarian in Kentucky..."
—Sen. Markwayne Mullin (12:18)
Timestamp: 07:26–10:20, 21:46–23:29
Media Investigations: Clay and Buck address reporting by Tucker Carlson and Miranda Devine about the assassin's alleged radicalization and violent online postings, questioning the FBI’s official stance.
Mullin’s Take: As a member of the Armed Services Committee, Mullin pours cold water on media-driven 'conspiracy theories,' stressing his reliance on classified intel and skepticism of outsiders having better info than the FBI.
"It's really hard for me to believe that someone like Tucker Carlson would have a better research department than the FBI. ...I have seen nothing, period to support Tucker Carlson's theory on this one."
—Sen. Markwayne Mullin (09:08)
Clay & Buck’s View: The hosts express more trust in Miranda Devine/New York Post, referencing past investigative scoops (e.g., Hunter Biden laptop).
"The New York Post got everything right on Hunter Biden and the laptop when everybody else was accusing them. Miranda Devine nailed that entire story."
—Clay Travis (23:18)
Timestamp: 12:46–16:44, 41:01–45:43
SEC Football Culture: The tone shifts as Clay and Senator Mullin chat about Oklahoma’s win over Alabama, hospitality in Tuscaloosa, and sportsmanship.
On Running for Office: Mullin encourages people with the right motivations to run for office and offers amusing anecdotes from the Alabama-Oklahoma game.
"As far as anybody willing to put their name on any ballot and run for any office... I commend you for doing that."
—Sen. Markwayne Mullin (14:13)
Playful Banter: The hour ends with ribbing about Clay’s drink of choice (Whispering Angel rosé), with a faux scandal rising out of playful Fox News remarks and Twitter posts.
Timestamp: 23:29–35:43
Affordability as Top Voter Issue: Clay and Buck reflect on everyday frustrations—like $30 for two Subway sandwiches—illustrating the persistent pain of price inflation even if recent increases have slowed.
Tipping Culture: They discuss the evolution of tipping expectations as costs rise and the life philosophy behind generous tipping.
"You look at the bill and you just say, this is too much. And this makes me angry. So I, I think the biggest challenge Trump has is how awful Biden was because it's, it's going to take years for people to come to recognize what things cost now."
—Clay Travis (31:05)
Debt & Monetary Policy: Buck brings up COVID-era stimulus, national debt, and currency debasement as fundamental sources of current economic stress.
"Covid was a massive inflation event for the country that we are still dealing with. ...We monetize the debt ...and then we pay for it ourselves by putting out the treasuries, and the whole thing is a mess. This is debasing the currency."
—Buck Sexton (33:10)
Timestamp: 32:33–35:08
AI & Promise of Cost Reductions: Buck highlights optimism for future gains from AI and automation but maintains that systemic economic challenges remain.
"Some of the productivity gains that should come from AI ...could have dramatic price factor as, or could dramatically factor into pricing in ways that matter to all of us. The world is going to change very rapidly, my friends, over the next five to 10 years."
—Buck Sexton (32:46)
Senator Mullin on Cartel Strikes:
“It's the first time ever that we've had a full pledge, all out assault on the drug cartels. And we're having a huge, huge impact.” (07:13)
On Government Secrecy & Media Skepticism:
“It's really hard for me to believe that someone like Tucker Carlson would have a better research department than the FBI.” —Mullin (09:08)
On Congressional Motivation:
“If this is your best job you've ever had, then I would question your ability to do what is best for your decision making.” —Mullin (15:13)
Banter on College Football:
“Serious topics between Alabama and Oklahoma. Football is a very serious topic.” —Mullin, joking (12:57)
On Runaway Inflation:
“How is a Subway meal for me and my 15 year old $30 now...And I think every time people go to the grocery store, I think every time people go through fast food, you look at the bill and you just say, this is too much.” —Clay Travis (31:05)
On Federal Debt and Inflation:
“We're debasing the currency and then we turn around and say, why is the currency being debased and why are things more expensive? Because as a matter of bipartisan policy, we continue to do that.” —Buck Sexton (34:13)
| Topic/Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Narco boat strikes and anti-cartel efforts (with Sen. Mullin) | 02:51–07:26| | Trump assassination investigation media coverage | 07:26–10:20| | Legality & GOP division (Rand Paul, with Sen. Mullin) | 10:20–12:46| | SEC football & running for office banter | 12:46–16:44| | Recap & reaction to Mullin’s interview | 21:22–21:46| | Media/fact debate (Tucker, Devine, Post vs FBI) | 21:46–23:29| | Inflation, cost of living, tipping culture, economic discussion | 23:29–35:43| | Technology & AI’s future impact | 32:33–35:08| | Lighthearted segment: Whispering Angel Rosé ‘scandal’ | 41:01–45:43|
This episode delivers a comprehensive look at narco-terrorism and the new assertive, multidimensional U.S. response, not shying away from the internal political and legal debates the new measures have sparked. Senator Mullin offers an insider perspective, defending both the effectiveness and legality of current policy, and candidly critiques fellow Republicans. The hosts maintain their hallmark balance of serious analysis and humor, shifting from grave discussions of terrorism and assassination attempts to relatable talk about groceries, football, generosity, and even wine selection. Throughout, Clay and Buck stress that, despite improvements and successes, everyday Americans remain frustrated by high costs, perceiving economic recovery as slow and uneven. The episode closes on an upbeat note with playful jabs and acknowledgment of listeners' shared experiences.
For listeners who missed the show:
This episode is a must-hear for incisive takes on America’s anti-cartel strategies, transparency and skepticism in high-profile investigations, the challenges of communicating economic progress, and a dose of the hosts' trademark humor—rooted in real life and sports fandom.