Hour 2 - Nothing is Impossible

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2: "Nothing is Impossible" – March 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton focus on the high-stakes Senate race in North Carolina with special guest Michael Watley, discuss national issues like oil prices and the border crisis, and interview Fox News’ Shannon Bream about her new book and pending Supreme Court decisions. Commentary is sharp, humorous, and fast-paced, dissecting both statewide and national topics with political insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Oil Prices and Commodities Volatility

[03:06–04:43]

• Recent dramatic drop in oil prices—largest in four years—sparks conversation about market panic and rapid rebound.
• Commentary on media narratives: “We're on to the next narrative, whatever it may be. After a one day 'everybody's going to collapse because we’re not going to be able to pay for oil and gas' narrative.” – Clay Travis [03:26]
• Commodities speculation is highlighted as risky, pointing out investor losses from market swings.

2. North Carolina Senate Race Deep Dive – Guest: Michael Watley (R)

[04:49–17:13]

• Michael Watley, North Carolina GOP Chair and current Senate candidate, breaks down his platform versus Roy Cooper (D).
• Watley stresses party unity post-primary and frames the election as a choice between "a conservative champion...an ally for President Trump" and Roy Cooper, who "will fight harder for criminals and illegal aliens than he is for the people of North Carolina." [05:30]
• Covers hurricane recovery, accusing Cooper and Biden of inaction on Hurricane Helene, contrasting with "the largest recovery effort by the federal government in North Carolina history." [06:45]
• On gender in sports, Watley criticizes Cooper’s record of vetoing bills to “keep woke out of schools, boys out of girls sports and men’s out of women’s locker rooms.” [08:18]
• Immigration and border security: Watley commits to supporting Trump’s enforcement and claims Cooper vetoed bills to remove criminal illegal aliens.
• Election strategy: Watley details targeting low-propensity Republican voters and winning suburban, college-educated swing voters by “mak[ing] the conversation about crazy versus common sense.” [10:16]
• Economics: Defends Trump-era tax cuts, accusing Cooper of wanting to expand Medicaid and raise taxes. Watley proposes pro-growth policies focusing on manufacturing, small businesses, and bringing down housing costs through market incentives and Trump-backed programs. [13:10]
• Anticipates the race will be the “most expensive Senate race in history,” projecting over $600 million will be spent. [15:20]
  • Quote: "This is going to be the most expensive Senate race in the history of the country." – Michael Watley [15:20]
  • Watley appeals for national support at his campaign website.

3. Call-in & Listener Q&A: Oil & Global Markets

[23:47–25:55]

• Responding to Massachusetts listener “Brian” and New Yorker “Dan” on why oil prices remain volatile even with high U.S. production: oil is traded globally and affected by international supply/demand, geopolitical fear, and actions by players like Saudi Arabia.
• Buck and Clay explain price controls, profit margins for producers, and the global nature of the oil market.

4. Shannon Bream Interview: The Supreme Court & Her New Book

[28:02–39:29]

• Book Segment: Bream’s new release, Nothing Is Impossible With God, seeks to inspire with “stories from the Bible…to have this theme of overcoming” and personal perseverance. [29:16]
• Supreme Court Watch:
  • Major decision expected soon on Louisiana redistricting; possible national ripple effects if the timing allows changes before the midterms. [28:02]
  • Bream debunks rumors of imminent Justice retirements, but acknowledges political timing could matter: “It's D.C.'s favorite parlor game…to figure out what they're going to do.” [36:06]
  • Discussion of unresolved Supreme Court leak in Dobbs decision, with Bream noting critics wanted a DOJ investigation, but “it feels like that just went nowhere.” [33:56]
  • On upcoming redistricting/gerrymandering decisions: the court’s timing could intentionally or unintentionally affect the 2026 election cycle. [32:46]
  • On tariff refund litigation: framework for repayments is pending, but many companies are still suing for their money. [30:18]
  • Confirmation speculation: Markets have a 60% confidence in a Supreme Court confirmation before 2027; Alito seen as possible retiree, “but they're not dummies about the political calculation.” [38:06]
• Closing: Bream receives strong praise from Clay and Buck for her work and the book.

5. Listener Calls & Book Review Testimonial

[45:34–48:03]

• “Frank from California” calls in to credit Buck’s book with converting a family member’s political views after he paid her to read it. Buck and Clay riff on the editing process and historical anecdotes cut from the book, including Soviet propaganda stories.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Oil Market Panic and Media Shifts:
  “After a one day, 'everybody's going to collapse because we're not going to be able to pay for oil and gas' narrative.” – Clay Travis [03:26]
• On the Senate Race Stakes:
  "This is going to be the most expensive Senate race in the history of the country." – Michael Watley [15:20]
• On Party Messaging:
  “[Swing voters] want a conversation about crazy versus common sense…They supported President Trump in this last election cycle because he was the common sense candidate.” – Michael Watley [10:16]
• On Being Apolitical at the Supreme Court:
  “They want the Court to be viewed as apolitical as possible. They don't want to get involved in looking like they're putting a weight on the scale.” – Shannon Bream [32:46]
• On Supreme Court Retirement Rumors:
  "Justices Thomas and Alito have both hired their clerks...no rumblings anybody's actually thinking about it...June could be a very interesting month on that front." – Shannon Bream [36:06]
• On Book Inspiration:
  “All of us get up against something in life that...will make us feel a little overwhelmed. That's the common thread in all of these stories.” – Shannon Bream [29:16]
• Listener Testimonial:
  “Your book turned a 21 year old university-going commie into a patriot.” – Frank from California [45:45]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [03:06] – Oil market crash and narrative cycles
• [04:49] – Michael Watley (NC Senate candidate) interview begins
• [05:30] – Watley: state of the North Carolina race & Trump alliance
• [06:45] – Post-hurricane recovery critique: Cooper vs. Trump response
• [08:18] – Gender in sports and vetoed legislation
• [08:56] – Immigration/border security policy differences
• [10:16] – Election strategy: Turnout and swing voters
• [13:10] – Economic policies: tax cuts vs. spending, housing market
• [15:20] – $600M projected Senate race spending discussed
• [28:02] – Shannon Bream discusses Supreme Court calendar
• [29:16] – Bream describes the “Nothing is Impossible with God” book
• [32:46] – Supreme Court redistricting ruling timing and impact
• [33:56] – Updates (or not) on Supreme Court Dobbs decision leak
• [36:06] – Rumors/speculation of Supreme Court retirements
• [45:45] – Listener call on book’s political impact
• [47:09] – Behind-the-scenes on book editing & Soviet history anecdotes

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Summary Conclusions

This hour is a blend of sharp political analysis, insider campaign strategy, and cultural commentary, all delivered with the hosts’ signature wit and confidence. The interviews with Michael Watley and Shannon Bream are especially rich, giving listeners an insider’s view of both electoral and judicial battles set to shape 2026—and beyond. Listeners come away with a clear sense of the stakes in North Carolina’s Senate race, the ongoing cultural skew around sports and gender, anxieties about oil and global markets, and what to watch for in upcoming Supreme Court decisions. The hour ends with warm listener engagement and behind-the-scenes stories, reinforcing Clay and Buck’s reputation for creating an informed, conversational, and entertaining conservative talk environment.

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Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Speculation is risk,

[Buck Sexton]

no doubt. We bring in now North Carolinian Michael Watley. One of the biggest battleground states of the midterm will be North Carolina and in particular an open Senate seat there. The primaries are over. It is going to be Michael Watley against Roy Cooper. You have seen and helped to shepherd Trump to victories in North Carolina in 2016, 2020 and 2024. And so you know the state better than almost anyone. What does it look like on the ground there? What needs to happen in order for a victory to happen in this seat to remain in Republican hands?

[Michael Watley]

Chairman Whatley well, really like what came out of the primaries. And we have a completely unified Republican Party and we have the narrative that we really were hoping to have in this election cycle, because this is about cont. This is about a choice that North Carolinians have, and they are going to vote for a conservative champion who's going to be an ally for President Trump over Roy Cooper, who absolutely is not going to be an ally with the president. He's not going to support the president's agenda. He is going to be a soft on crime senator, just like he was a soft on crime governor. And he is going to always want higher taxes. He's going to want boys and girls sports and men and women's locker rooms. And he's going to always fight harder for criminals and illegal aliens than he is for the people of North Carolina.

[Clay Travis]

So my understanding is you are the recovery czar for western North Carolina right after Hurricane Helene, that Trump has talked about how you've been important in those efforts. How is, how is that going? And what would you say about the state efforts that you weren't in control of to try to help out areas like Asheville and Boone?

[Michael Watley]

Well, what we saw when Roy Cooper was the governor was absolutely no activity whatsoever, either from Joe Biden or from Roy Cooper. They both left the state totally in shambles. But President Trump has done what we've been able to DO, is bring $8.75 billion plus in recovery efforts to western North Carolina. 99% of the roads have been rebuilt, the bridges have been rebuilt, the water systems, the wastewater systems have been rebuilt. You know, that is a very strong part of the state. It is a resilient part of the state. The people there have, you know, overcome adversity. Adversity. But, you know, we're not ready to hang out a mission accomplished banner yet. But we feel very good about where we are in terms of the recovery. And this is the largest recovery effort by the federal government in North Carolina history for any hurricane.

[Buck Sexton]

The governor, former governor of North Carolina, you're running against Roy Cooper. I remember seeing a super viral video of him asked a very basic question, should men be able to compete in women's sports? And I know as March Madness is going on, there's not a sports crazier state, hardly for basketball season than North Carolina right now. I think it's something that really cuts through and connects with a lot of North Carolinians in particular. Has he answered that question. I imagine that when you get on the debate stage and as this campaign progresses, that's going to be something that you really hammer him on.

[Michael Watley]

Well, he did answer the question because he vetoed three different bills to keep woke out of schools, boys out of girls sports and men's out of women's locker rooms. He's exactly wrong on this issue set. And it really does, as you say, you know, touch the hearts and minds of people all across North Carolina.

[Clay Travis]

What is the difference between you and Roy Cooper as you see it, when it comes to immigration enforcement? That's obviously an area that matters a whole lot to the whole country and it matters a whole lot to your home state of North Carolina. Where is Cooper on that issue? Where has he been as governor and where will you be?

[Michael Watley]

Well, I'm going to support President Trump. I think that when we talk about the highest, most important function for any government, it is protecting its citizens. That's true, whether it's local, state or federal. And what President Trump has done in securing our border is not just keep out, you know, the millions of illegal immigrants that were flowing into the country every single year, but has also brought down drugs, he's brought down migrant crime, sex trafficking, you know, all of the, all of the scourges that came along with, you know, 10 to 15 million illegal immigrants that came across, you know, Roy Cooper, on the other hand, vetoed two different bills that would have forced sheriffs to honor ICE detainers and help get violent criminal illegal aliens out of North Carolina.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, I know that the answer is everywhere, every part of the state. But you know the state of North Carolina better than anybody. Buck just asked you about western North Carolina, where I think you were born and raised, still recovering from a lot of what happened with Hurricane Helene. Where does a statewide race get decided in your mind? Is it the suburbs outside of Charlotte? Is it in turnout related issues? Again, I know that there are lots of things to point to, but when you look at this state, where is a close election decided in North Carolina?

[Michael Watley]

Look, you nailed it on the head when you said everywhere matters. We're expecting that this race is going to be extraordinarily close. You know, when Thom Tillis won this seat for the first time in 2014, he had a 50,000 vote margin, which was 3/10 of a point. When he won it for the second time, it was a 6/10 of a point margin and Ted Budd got a very comfortable 50.5. So we know that every, every place is going to matter. What we need to do is to get out there and talk to every Republican voter that supported President Trump who has not voted in the off years. So we look at people who voted in 2016, 2020 and 2024, but they didn't vote in 2018 or 20, 20, 22. We want to go to them and have a conversation that says this really matters. We need to dynamite them off the couch and we need to get them to go vote. The other thing that we need to do is in a typical election in North Carolina, 46, 47% of the people are going to vote for a Republican candidate. 46, 47% are going to vote for a Democratic candidate. And then we are going to have to go have a conversation with that 6 to 8% that are your swing voters. And they're predominantly suburban, they're predominantly college educated. And the thing that matters to them is a conversation about crazy versus common sense. And they supported President Trump in this last election cycle. Independent voters in North Carolina, 54 to 45, because he was the common sense candidate. He was actually going out there and talking about the issues that they cared about, not the woke progressive issues that Kamala Harris was putting on the table. Roy Cooper is right there in lockstep with the Democratic Party when he's talking about open borders, inflationary spending, and a weak woke America. What I'm fighting for is President Trump's common sense agenda to, you know, rebuild our economy, to make sure that our kids and our communities are safe and that the men and women in uniform based in North Carolina have what they need to protect our interests and allies around the world.

[Clay Travis]

Speaking of Michael Wadley, he's running for that Senate seat that's open in this cycle in North Carolina. I know you've strongly supported Michael, President Trump's tax cuts, which have obviously boosted North Carolina's economy along with the rest of the country. But there's major affordability concerns in your state, just like there are in many states, particularly a lot of states people are moving to. Right. Housing prices are going up because of that supply and demand reality. Roy Cooper wants to expand Medicaid. Roy Cooper wants to spend more money, and that's not going to help. What would you like to do? What kind of pro growth policies would you prioritize in the Senate so that working families can get some relief and there can be some of the affordability issues addressed that are so critical right now, especially to those independent and swing voters?

[Michael Watley]

Yeah, look, tax policies, regulatory policies and trade policies that are going to help North Carolina manufacturer, small businesses, and particularly our farms. Right. We need to create more jobs. We need to make sure people are taking home, bigger paychecks. And of course, we've got to get the cost down low. And that is going to take a concerted effort. You know, one of the things that's so important about President Trump and the one big beautiful bill that was passed by Congress last year is extending the Trump middle class tax cuts, which ended up being the largest tax cut in history, and making sure that no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. You know, Roy Cooper, when he was a legislator, he voted for multiple tax hikes. When he was the governor, he vetoed six different tax cuts. And he made it very clear that he would have voted against the one big, beautiful bill. So he's always going to support tax increases. He's always going to want, you know, to tax and spend your money. Right. I'm going to always fight to make sure that we're going to bring those costs down. You know, you mentioned housing, Right. So just today we've got Secretary Scott Turner, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, coming in to Charlotte, Charlotte, North Carolina, and we're going to have a roundtable where we're going to be focusing on bringing down housing costs and making sure that we have houses that are going to be available. It's really hard for you to set up and live the American dream when you can't get married and buy a house and raise a family. And so what we want to do is have an honest conversation with the secretary along with, you know, real estate developers and lenders and construction folks about what is it going to take for us to be able to build more homes and bring down those prices. We need to bring, you know, interest rates down. Right. President Trump has been fighting on that a lot. We need to have transparency in the housing markets. We need to make sure that the HUD loans and other programs they have are specifically designed to get more first time homeowners into place.

[Buck Sexton]

How much is this race going to cost total, do you think? And for people out there that might have the resources to be able to help you, how can they help you?

[Michael Watley]

Well, this is going to be the most expensive Senate race in the history of the country. And we're seeing, you know, experts on both sides of the aisle are saying that we're going to be somewhere north of $600 million that are going to be spent on this race, which is going to eclipse what we saw in Ohio and Georgia and Pennsylvania in the last couple of election cycles. People want to support us. They can go to michaelwatley.com we are certainly going to need help from all across the country. And we are going to be in a position to win this race when we have that support, because we are believers that good policy is good politics. And we're going to be on the right side of every one of these 80, 20 issues, and we're going to be fighting for President Trump's common sense agenda.

[Buck Sexton]

I want to just come back to that number quickly because my jaw dropped. For people watching on video, you think this race is going to cost $600 million?

[Michael Watley]

Yeah, I think it's a stunning indictment on politics these days that this is what we're going to be spending on there, you know, but need to make sure that we get our message out, you know, and President Trump did such a good job. What we did on the campaign was make sure that we were good stewards of every dollar, that we were spending it in a way that was going to maximize getting our message out there. But it didn't work if we didn't have a good message. And so when we talk about rebuilding the economy, restoring the borders and keeping our kids and our communities safe and making sure that our military has what they need, you know, as, as we're watching what happens now in Iran, we need to make sure that we're focusing on what are the issues that the voters care about.

[Buck Sexton]

He is Michael Whatley. He is hopefully going to be the next senator from the state of North Carolina. I'm sure we'll be talking to you a lot. That $600 million battle, that is extraordinary. Sir. Get your rest and be ready.

[Michael Watley]

We're ready to go. And really appreciate you and your listeners.

[Buck Sexton]

That is Michael Watley. Check him out in one of the big open Senate seats, maybe the biggest battleground Senate battle in the country there. 600 million. I can't believe it. By the way, reports now that the New York Police Department bomb squad has arrived at Gracie Mansion. Buck, we'll update you on the absolute latest on that. That's the headline at Fox News as we are on the heels of the two IEDs being thrown outside of Gracie Mansion as well. Prize picks available in all 50 states. California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, wherever you are across the country. You can play along. You can download the Prize Picks app today. Use my name, Clay, as the code and you get $50 instantly in lineups. When you play $5. That's code. Clay. Clay on prize picks. To get $50 in lineups. When you play five dollars, win or lose, 50 bucks in lineups just for playing guaranteed prize picks. It's good to be right. You want to check out and get hooked up with this in all 50 states. When you play $5, you get back $50. You are going to love it. It's fun. March Madness underway. Have a little bit of fun with prizepix.com code clay want to be in the know when you're on the go the Team 47 podcast drop highlights from

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back in here to Clay and Buck and we are getting into some of your talk facts and calls. Also, Shannon Bream, chief Legal Correspondent at Fox News, is coming up shortly with her book Nothing Is Impossible With Gods. And we are big Shannon Bream fans here. So we are happy to talk to her about her book, but also some major Supreme Court cases that will have an effect on the whole nation and all of that good stuff. Brian, from Clay, do you know how to say this one in Massachusetts? Do you know how to say this one? This town?

[Buck Sexton]

Worcester.

[Clay Travis]

Worcester is. Yes, Worcester. Technically you're correct. But you got to lean in with Worcester usually how we say it. Brian, put the talk back in here. Let's go wtag. Hit it. Hey Buck, could you just give an explanation of why if we've beaten the

[Buck Sexton]

crap out of Iran and all their

[Clay Travis]

military, why are we still dealing with blockages of the Straits of Hormuz and increase in oil price and all that? Why is, why is it not open? Yeah, it's a good question. Trump was addressing this just the last few days telling the ship captains, the oil tankers, it's okay, go for it. Alright, well that's, that's a little easier said than done. If you're the ship captain on a giant floating sea of oil and you know that the Iranians are saying we may just decide to make an example of somebody and cause an ecological disaster, you know, you don't want to be the one that they happen to have one more good missile lined up for.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

So there's a, there's just a fear factor with these ships going in and out.

[Buck Sexton]

Right now they're still sending drones and missiles out. So you could be, to Buck's point, the one that gets hit, which is why Trump is now providing escorts. By the way, I think the fear that this was going to happen has collapsed. It drove up oil prices. Now they're down $40 from yesterday. By the way, Dan in New York, W O R up in New York City has a question.

[Clay Travis]

Hi guys.

[Michael Watley]

Dan from New York here.

[Clay Travis]

Maybe you could explain to the audience why if we are the biggest producer, why we can't control the price? Well, it's because oil is a globally traded commodity, so it's priced by international supply and demand. So there's, there's a lot of how much oil is being pumped by different places at different times. I mean, we have influence on it obviously. Like it's not as, we don't, we don't lack influence, but there's additional supply or rather, you know, additional capacity is a big thing. Like the Saudis have a lot of additional capacity to put out more.

[Buck Sexton]

So it's not as clear as just it's global. Buck, I would also add in there has to be a price point where people can make money. So you can't drive down the price of oil and gas to $30 a barrel because no one will pump. Right. It's a balancing act. We'll talk a little bit more about that. It's a good question. Question, I think for people who may not pay a lot of attention to this. In the meantime, Cozy Earth brand defined by luxury and comfort, sheets, bedding, clothing, blankets, you name it, all online at their website, cozyearth.com Most people discovering Cozy Earth start with the sheets. The most comfortable sheets you may ever sleep on. We have them in every bedroom of the Travis house. You can also dig into Cozy Earth clothing for guys like us who want to be comfortable. It's awesome. Trust me on this. 20% off on all products with the code clay go to cozyearth.com code clay that c o z y cozyearth.com code Clay for 20% off everything. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us and we are glad to be joined by our good friend Shannon Bream. Am I allowed to say it? I'm going to say it. I always ask and then I say it anyway. Nearly a neighbor of mine, among other reasons that I appreciate everything that she does. She has great choices and where she has decided to live with her awesome husband Sheldon, who often listens to the show. So thank you. Congratulations on the new book. Let me make sure that I get that out there for the title. It is Nothing Is impossible with God, 11 heroes, one God, endless lessons in Overcoming. Shannon, of course, chief legal correspondent at Fox News. And we encourage all of you to go buy her book. Book put her on the bestseller list like Buck was just on the bestseller list for the New York Times. And Shannon, I'll get to the book in a sec. But let me start with this. We're still expecting really big Supreme Court decisions. When do we expect some of these to come down? And what do you think has the potential to be the most significant between now and June when that term is over?

[Shannon Bream]

Well, Clay, good to hear your voice. Great to be with you guys. Thanks for having me. We probably will get another round of opinions starting the week of March 23rd. They're back at arguments, oral arguments then. So listen, it's the court's world. We're just living in it. They could give these opinions anytime we want. But that's kind of my educated guess. You were waiting on one really big one out of Louisiana that has to do with redistricting with the Voting Rights Act. And you guys know we're tracking these states all over the country that are trying to do redistricting leading up to the midterm. So if we get that decision on the earlier side, meaning, you know, March, April rather than the later, which would be the end of June, it really does have the potential to impact a number of these states. And what they're doing with redrawing these streets, excuse me, the district. So I'm watching for that one. We've got a couple that test the limits of executive power. You know, the president trying to dismiss a governor from the Fed board and some other interesting ones that we're just kind of waiting on. Our nail biting standby.

[Clay Travis]

Shannon, I want to ask you about the book because I just went through the whole book thing and still going through.

[Shannon Bream]

And congrats, Congrats.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you, thank you. I'm sure you're enjoying your copy very much. Thank you for your kind words. Tell me what you write in this book and what do people need to know? I want to dive right into it.

[Shannon Bream]

Well, listen, it's. It's a group of stories from the Bible, old and New Testament, to have this theme of overcoming because, I mean, all of us get up against something in life that, you know, either it's unplanned and it's, you know, a terrible diagnosis or financial crisis or something really difficult in life. It may be something exciting like, you know, starting a new business or having a baby or something, but we all have things that sometimes will make us feel a little bit overwhelmed. And that's the common thread in all of these stories. And so I hope that people will see themselves in these stories, be encouraged and see how God was working and help each of these people to overcome what was the tough thing in front of them.

[Buck Sexton]

Shannon, you mentioned the Supreme Court decisions that are coming down soon. One of the biggest questions, and this is a huge mess in general, so maybe you have the perfect solution here is, and I think we've talked about this with you before, the tariff decision had so many different implications, but the biggest still is out there. It is what happens with tariff refunds. How does this play out in your mind? Where does it go?

[Shannon Bream]

Yeah. And listen, during the fight over the tariffs in the lower courts, the administration represented to the courts numerous times that they would pay out the refunds to the plaintiffs in those particular cases. So that was just a small group of businesses. So I pressed, you know, Secretary Bessant, Kevin Hassett, others on this, like what happens to everybody else out there. And you've seen, I mean, There were already been a lot of big filings, lawsuits filed with different companies across the spectrum saying, we want our money back. Well, now cbp, because this money comes in through Border Patrol, they say, listen, we are getting together a streamlined way to do this. It's going to take us about 45 days. I think they told the court recently to kind of set up the way that you go about getting your refunds. But there are a lot of lawsuits from companies who say, we're not waiting for that. We want the money back, and we want a guarantee from the court that you're going to pay us.

[Clay Travis]

Hmm. How do you think this plays out, Shannon?

[Shannon Bream]

Well, you know, the president himself was frustrated. The court did not give a specific, you know, framework for paying this money back. Instead, he, you know, so we're going to be tied up in litigation for a couple of years. So that's my question. Is the administration going to fight some of these refunds, or will they do, as CBP has said, set up this framework? Because, you know, several businesses out there have spoken publicly and said, listen, the forms that you fill out for these specific tariffs, it's always very specific, so you can track. You got the receipts, as the kids say, to show exactly what money you've paid out. And so it would seem, with that in mind, if CBP really sets up this framework for getting it done, that that would expedite the process. But I think that there are going to be those who press for litigation to make sure that that DAO is made good.

[Buck Sexton]

When you look, Shannon, at the Supreme Court decisions, the one that you just referenced on the. On the redistricting in particular, using race as a. As a criteria, the gerrymandering of race. I've seen some stories that that could flip 20 different districts, particularly in the south, if that's tossed. My suspicion, I'm curious, if you would sign on, is that the court is going to wait as late as possible, release that ruling. I think it's going to invalidate those districts, but I think they want to do it late enough that it doesn't impact the 2026 midterms. You buy that? Or do you think there is a possibility that they would interject themselves into that aspect of 2026?

[Shannon Bream]

Yeah, and that's such a great question, because that's what we keep waiting for. Listen, if this thing comes in the next couple of weeks, I do think, you know, it's going to impact a number of states that can make these changes before it's later. But if it comes at the end of, the end of June. It may preclude that process, you're right, from getting too close to doing anything about the elections that are going to come in the midterm. You know, the justices will tell us they want the Court to be viewed as apolitical as possible. They don't want to get involved in looking like they're putting a weight on the scale in a partisan manner or any other way. So I don't know what they're going to do, where they're going to land with this. But you know, the Chief justice always tells us when the opinions are ready. We don't hold them or time them to meet any kind of specific political or other timeline. We release them. So they haven't even given us a date for the next release. But he says they don't play games with it, that when it's ready, we get it.

[Clay Travis]

Something I just thought about as we're here talking about matters affecting the High Court and matters before the High Court. Shannon, whatever happened to finding out who leaked the Dobbs decision in advance of the actual decision? Very few people would have had access to that. And it feels like that just went nowhere.

[Shannon Bream]

Buck, I love it. One of my favorite questions, because remember this administration picked that up when the Court had the investigation, the Chief justice kept it in house use the marshal service use their internal workings to get it done. We know some people were pressed on taking lie detector tests and those kinds of things, but we all know if it was a clerk and that's an if. We have no idea. They have these one year terms. And if it's an internal Supreme Court investigation, when they leave at the end of that clerking term, the court kind of loses its reach over them. They can't take away their employment. They can't do anything from that infrastructure. And there are a lot of critics on the outside who said this should have been farmed out. We should have brought in DOJ or some other federal investigative body to do this. Well, then, you know, when Dan Mangina was part of the administration, he talked a couple of times about this saying the Dobbs decision is still on our list of investigations. Like we're going to try to find out. So if the Court cooperates with them, that's one thing. But if the Court's not cooperating and turning over all the details of what their internal investigation found, I'm not sure how you kind of pick up the threats at this point.

[Buck Sexton]

We want you to go buy her book. The book is Nothing is impossible with God 11 heroes 1 God, endless lessons in overcoming. Shannon Bream, let me hit you with this, because I haven't heard this discussed in earnest. But a big part of what might happen in the Senate is who's going to control it, right? This could be the last year that President Trump has control of the United States Senate. Have you heard any discussions about the possibility of some of the older justices, maybe a Justice Alito, for instance, deciding that this is the time to step down because he knows that his conscience confirmation would be someone who shares many of his judicial philosophies. Whereas if you wait until, you know, January, you could end up in a situation where Ruth Bader Ginsburg found herself or other justices have found themselves, where your health is at the beck and call of a political universe you don't control what discussion, if any, is, is is about the Supreme Court right now.

[Shannon Bream]

Oh, guys, this is one of our favorite parlor games in D.C. especially in the Supreme Court press corps. Like, it gives ulcers to all of us trying to figure this out and figure out what they're going to do. Because, you guys know, these confirmation battles have gotten so heated the last few rounds that when somebody decides to step down, it triggers all kinds of pandemonium in D.C. and you're right, you got to look to the midterms and see does the Senate lose control, which would make it really hard. It's already difficult because you're not even guaranteed all the Republican votes. If you're a Republican voter who wants to see President Trump to get another appointment, they don't always stick together either. So, you know, it's a really heavy lift. But I've heard nothing. I mean, Justices Thomas and Alito have both hired their clerks. They have everything in place that you would think is going to be in place for future terms. That's something that they do pretty far in advance. So I haven't heard any rumblings that anybody's actually thinking about it. We like to speculate, but my educated guess is that Justice Thomas is not going to leave the bench by choice. He's having a good time. He fights every day. I think when he shows up there every day, he does it with such glee for his haters that I think he's somebody who's going to stay as long as possible. You know, we have no indication that Justice Alito is even thinking about it, but I think he would step down before Justice Thomas would. So I think June could be very interesting month on that front.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. Let me hit you with this, because I like to look at the markets, and there are markets right now on whether a new Supreme Court justice would be confirmed before 2027. And it's right at 60%. Yes. So there are people making wagers that somebody. Alito is the favorite. As you just kind of ran through that, you know, he might be considering this. And again, you've done this for a long time. If you wanted to ensure who your replacement was going to be from a judicial philosophy perspective next year, that meaning this year might be the last year where you have some certainty on that for some time to come.

[Shannon Bream]

Right. And listen, as much as the court wants to be apolitical, they're not blind. Listen. They get the political trends, they get the political conversation. And you do have to think about that. Remember when Justice Ginsburg was being pressed so hard by the left to step down and it made her dig in her heels? I mean, there were op EDS telling her she had to go. There were law professors calling for her to go, and she was like, no, sir, I will go on my own timeline and I'll go when I'm good and ready. And then the left was so furious with her, obviously passing away while she was still holding that seat and, you know, President Trump obviously getting to replace her. So it's a really sore point, but a lot of people think on the right, even listen, you give deference to these men who, you know, are the more senior members of the conservative wing of the court. They've given decades of their lives, and we should respect that. So I don't know. And I do think that both Thomas and Alito are justices, too. If you pressured them or started saying, hey, Thomas to show you the door, that would make them stick around. But they're not dummies about the political calculation, so I got to imagine that's. That's part of their consideration.

[Buck Sexton]

No doubt.

[Clay Travis]

New book is Nothing Is Impossible With God, eleven Heroes, One God, Endless Lessons and Overcoming. Go get your copy. Shannon, Clay and Buck are Shannon fans, and we have so many Shannon fans listening. So I think we're going to sell a bunch of books today. Let us know how it goes.

[Shannon Bream]

Well, thank you. The feeling is mutual. I would love to see you guys in person so hopefully end up in one of your studios again soon. Again, congrats.

[Clay Travis]

Fantastic. Thank you so much. Thank you. She's the best.

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[Clay Travis]

Thank you so much. It took a lot of doing so I really appreciate that. That manufacturing delusion. Friends Clay. I keep saying it. The number, the number one praise that I get from it is the wow, it's actually good. The surprise. You actually wrote a good book. Yes, it is a good book. Please go get a copy of it. You'll appreciate the history stuff's really interesting. You know one thing Frank, I think you'll appreciate that I actually got cut out. There's a lot of stuff that got cut out of the book. Like my thing about the story of how lemmings don't actually commit mass suicide. That got cut out. That's a total.

[Buck Sexton]

How much longer was the book before the edits came through?

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There were something like I would say 80 pages of cut, cut, cut, cut, cut generally because it made the narrative drag too long in some of the chapters. I wrote way too much about Pavlov and the Soviets because I got so into it. I thought it was so interesting. One thing though about Stalin, Clay, that I thought was so fascinating was they understood whether building the biggest cult of personality in human history essentially around him, right totalitarian state, was that there always was also propaganda that Stalin didn't want it. This Is another thing I didn't. It's like, oh, oh, no. Comrade Stalin hates all this attention. He just wants to serve the peasants. He just wants to serve the workers. Like, no, actually he was making people put the posters up or else he'd shoot them in the head. But, you know, you learn these things from history and it's fascinating stuff. So. Frank, I appreciate you, man. Thank you. History professor likes the Blue Book.

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