The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Hour 2 with OH Rep. Jim Jordan
Date: October 23, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Guest: Congressman Jim Jordan (Ohio)
Episode Overview
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into key political flashpoints with a focus on the Virginia governor’s race, the impact of far-left influence on the Democratic Party, the controversy over women’s sports and transgender participation, the ongoing federal government shutdown, and the House Judiciary Committee’s referral of former CIA Director John Brennan for allegedly lying to Congress. Special guest Congressman Jim Jordan provides insight on the shutdown dynamics, Democratic in-fighting, Trump’s presidency, and upcoming races.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. The Virginia Governor’s Race & Women Candidates
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Discussion on Polls and Media Narratives
- Clay and Buck break down polling discrepancies regarding Abigail Spanberger's chances, expressing skepticism about mainstream media predictions and suggesting the race is tighter than reported.
“I think this is one of these times where they're trying to tell everybody… the polls show that Spamberger is a shoo in, but on the other hand, they're concerned…” – Clay Travis (03:25)
- Clay and Buck break down polling discrepancies regarding Abigail Spanberger's chances, expressing skepticism about mainstream media predictions and suggesting the race is tighter than reported.
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Sexism Claims and Democratic Messaging
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Mika Brzezinski's claim that sexism is hurting Spanberger and other female candidates is critiqued.
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Clay points out Spanberger’s opponent is also a woman of color, questioning the validity of the sexism argument.
“Abigail Spanberger is running against a black woman. So how is it that Abigail Spanberger being a woman is the cause of her difficulties?”
— Clay Travis (05:45) -
Buck extends the critique by referencing other races, arguing that women win and lose elections like men, and points to candidates like Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris as poor examples of sexism playing a role.
“There are women winning elections all over the country, and sometimes women lose elections all over the country just like men do.”
— Buck Sexton (06:27) -
Memorable pop culture moment: Clay references "As Good as It Gets" (08:13), using a Jack Nicholson line as a humorous jab at the logic of attributing every loss to sexism.
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2. Minnesota Supreme Court Ruling & Transgender Issues in Sports
- Minnesota Powerlifting Case
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The Minnesota Supreme Court’s 7-0 decision requiring a male powerlifter who identifies as female to compete in women's powerlifting is discussed as an example of “toxic empathy” and the “left’s trans agenda.”
“Seven members of the supreme Court of the state of Minnesota just said it's a violation of this dude's human rights…”
— Buck Sexton (13:18) -
Clay and Buck speculate that such cases, which they argue are forced through by state power, represent the progressive goal of enforcing compliance with their views on gender identity.
“Their plan is to ride this out until they can force the insanity on you via the state…”
— Clay Travis (13:18) -
Both hosts cite concern that the left uses kindness and tolerance as “Trojan horses” to advance their agenda:
“The innate kindness, desire for respect, civility, and decency has unfortunately been used as a Trojan horse for the left wing radical agenda...”
— Clay Travis (15:59)
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3. Government Shutdown and Democratic Leadership Tensions
With Rep. Jim Jordan (25:43–37:33)
- Shutdown Dynamics and Democratic Infighting
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Jim Jordan attributes the shutdown to “the crazy left that now unfortunately has control of one of our major political parties.”
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He argues that Democratic leaders like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are now beholden to the hard left, possibly fearing primary challenges from figures like AOC.
“It's this phenomena that the hard left has control of that party… Schumer took all kinds of heat from the left… when he allowed the Senate to pass the continuing resolution.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (27:28) -
Discussion of potential impacts of the shutdown on benefits like food stamps.
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The possibility is raised that the shutdown might be used to manipulate turnout in key races, such as the Virginia governor's race, especially in left-leaning Northern Virginia.
“We may be in this till November 5th or longer, you know, after Election Day… never underestimate just this phenomena about the left hatred for President Trump.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (29:20)
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4. House Judiciary Referral of John Brennan
- Details on Alleged Lying to Congress
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Jordan details the House Judiciary Committee’s referral of ex-CIA Director John Brennan for allegedly lying under oath about his involvement with the infamous Steele dossier during the Russia investigation.
“It looks like that's exactly what John Brennan did. And it looks like he did that because… the Director, National Intelligence declassified a report…”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (30:42) -
Jordan frames this as part of a pattern of dishonesty and partisanship by Brennan.
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Notably, Jordan mentions the 51 intelligence officials’ letter on Hunter Biden’s laptop as a further instance of political weaponization.
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5. Analysis of Trump’s Second Presidency
- Comparison to First Term
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Both hosts describe Trump’s current term as more focused and effective, crediting better personnel choices and a commitment to fulfilling campaign promises.
“I thought his first term was amazing, but I do think this is better for a couple reasons. One, he's just focused… Second, the people he's put in running these key agencies are actually Trump people…”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (33:26) -
Jordan claims the GOP is well positioned going into the next Congressional election cycle, citing improved candidate recruitment, redistricting advantages, and Trump’s realignment of traditional political coalitions.
“Trump has just fundamentally changed American politics… now it's represented by Republicans because he has fundamentally changed the party and politics and is, I think, truly fighting for middle class, working class and all Americans.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (35:27)
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6. Sports Gambling Controversies
- Discussion on Players Betting on Their Teams
- Clay and Buck discuss the ethics of sports figures betting on their own games, referencing Pete Rose, boxing, and recent NBA allegations.
- Buck notes individual sports allow for self-betting under specific rules, but team sports prohibit it.
- Officials are considered especially high risk for corruption due to lower pay.
“Referees, because they don't make as much money, most of us… said, you know, a guy making $26 million is never going to be dumb enough to risk it all for $200,000.”
— Buck Sexton (38:14)
- Clay and Buck discuss the ethics of sports figures betting on their own games, referencing Pete Rose, boxing, and recent NBA allegations.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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“There's a desperate attempt here to try and make themselves victims and the sign of oppression, but they're not even doing the research that's required…”
— Buck Sexton (07:43) -
“Remember, J. Jones was the guy running for attorney general. I think he's actually dropped below Miares now for that.”
— Clay Travis (09:28) -
“You have to pretend that it's not Macho Man Randy Savage… That's Tina. No, it's Macho Man Randy Savage.”
— Clay Travis (15:59) -
“Never underestimate just this phenomenon about the left hatred for President Trump. I mean, this… Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (29:32) -
“No one has done it better than President Trump. He said he would cut taxes. He did. He said he'd get men out of women's sports. He has.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (33:57) -
“Seven Supreme Court justices in Minnesota said that a man who identifies as a woman should be allowed to participate in powerlifting competitions there because it is a violation of his human rights. This is all seven Supreme Court justices all appointed… by Democrats.”
— Buck Sexton (45:41)
Timestamps for Major Segments
- Virginia Governor’s Race & Sexism Claims: 03:15–09:45
- Minnesota Powerlifting/Trans in Sports: 11:30–17:46
- Shutdown, Hard Left, and Dem Leadership: 25:43–30:17
- Brennan/Intel Community Referrals: 30:17–32:37
- Trump 2.0 Performance: 33:00–34:56
- House/Senate Outlook for GOP: 34:56–36:22
- Sports Gambling & Integrity: 37:38–41:38
- Listener Feedback on Minnesota Ruling: 45:09–46:42
Listener Reactions
- Minnesota listener Sam (jackhammer in background) vents that most Minnesotans outside the metro do not support the Supreme Court’s trans sports ruling:
“I'm talking about Minneapolis and St. Paul. It is a joke down, but the rest of us are fine.”
— Sam from Western Minnesota (45:49)
Tone and Style
The episode maintains its trademark blend of sarcasm, cultural references, and political humor while sharply critiquing left-wing positions and policies. The hosts’ banter, along with Jim Jordan’s candidness, provides a conversational—sometimes irreverent—take on current controversies.
End of Hour 2 Summary
