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Indeed. So do us a solid and preorder yours on Amazon today. All right, second hour of play and buck starts right now. Thanks for being here, everybody. The Virginia governor's race and some other big political showdowns, including the mayor's race.
Buck Sexton
In New York City.
Clay Travis
Let's talk about this first up here.
Jim Jordan
Polls, polls, polls, polls.
Clay Travis
Do we have Spanberger? According to the New York Times here with all these different polls, up 9, up 12, up 13, up 5, up 10. All this stuff, I don't buy it. Trafalgar has her up 2, which I think is within the margin of error. Where's the margin? Well, almost the margin of error. So I think that this is one of these times where they're trying to tell everybody, on the one hand, the polls show that Spamberger is a shoo in, but on the other hand, they're concerned about Spanberger at the same time. And this is just. This is just fun for us as two guys who make a living doing, you know, doing this. There's just some basic. This is cut seven guys. There's just some basic stuff here that you. You want to find. You want to find out before you go on the air. For example, Mika Brzezinski, who really, I think, just exists on television so that wealthy Chardonnay ladies of suburbs of major cities have somebody that they can look to who gives them emotional validation in their politics without actually educating them about any politics, because here we go. The reason that Abigail Spanberger is struggling, I just told you, all the, all the polls say that, oh, she's going to win by so much. But the Democrats know it's actually pretty close and they're worried. And so they're saying the reason they're struggling is sexism. Play 7.
Jim Jordan
It really is incredible when you have Abigail Spanberger, Mikey Sherrill, her background, all the different jobs that she has held.
Clay Travis
In the military, and also like Eliza Slotkin. I mean, my God, these women are incredible.
Jim Jordan
And to them, I would say fight, fight, fight, because we need them.
Clay Travis
I mean, this is something that a lot of Democrats are grappling with right now as they've elect, they've nominated women. Two of the last three elections for the presidency lost both.
Jim Jordan
There are some who say, well, we.
Clay Travis
Can'T do that again.
Jim Jordan
The stakes are too high.
Clay Travis
But of course, that does fall into the same misogynistic trap.
Jim Jordan
Other countries have no problem electing women.
Clay Travis
Abigail Spanberger is running against a black woman.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
So how is it that Abigail Spanberger being a woman is the cause of her difficulties? Clay, I just, I just need to understand this.
Buck Sexton
Not only that, she mentioned Alyssa Slotkin, who is running for governor in Michigan. Michigan has a female governor. And the last Michigan governor's race was our friend Tudor Dixon running against Gretchen Whitmer. Two women ran against each other. So this is just do a smidgen of basic research and don't dive headlong into the oppression Olympics. And you can see that there are women winning elections all over the country, and sometimes women lose elections all over the country just like men do. Um, I don't know that any woman has lost an election because of her gender in, frankly, the 21st century. Hillary was not a great candidate. Barack Obama beat her. I don't think Barack Obama beat her because he was a black man. I think he beat her because he was a better candidate. Bernie Sanders would have beaten Hillary, but he didn't because the DNC actually rigged the election for her. And Hillary lost because she did a poor job as a poor candidate campaigning in the battleground states that she didn't think she had any reason to be concerned about losing all over the Midwest. And Kamala, regardless of her gender, may have been the worst candidate anyone has seen. And she was elevated, I would argue, to the Democrat nomination because of her race and her gender. So if she hadn't been a black woman, I think there's a decent chance they would have had some sort of short, open mini primary. But they were so afraid of being called racist and sexist inside the Democrat Party that they just said, ah, hell, go ahead and put Kamal up. We'll see what happens. May we get lucky. If she loses, then so what? We'll blame the fact that she's a black woman. I, I, I just. There's a desperate attempt here to try and make themselves victims and the sign of oppression. But they're not even doing the research that's required to even make the argument. Very well.
Clay Travis
Remember when in the, I think, very watchable movie, still as Good as it Gets with Jack Nicholson. And do you know what I'm talking about?
Buck Sexton
Oh, yeah, it's a great movie.
Clay Travis
Yeah, great movie. Remember when he's a, he's a famous author, but obviously also a very strange guy or very, you know, socially awkward guy, Jack Nicholson. She says, how do you write women so well? He says, I think of a man and then I take away reason and accountability. Now, I'm not endorsing that line. I am just saying that Mika Brzezinski is playing right into that by claiming that a woman losing to a woman is because of sexism. There is neither reason nor accountability in that analysis for their candidate. And Katie Couric, who is still in the game somewhat. I didn't even know this. I thought she was just, you know, counting her millions and doing whatever, but she still does the journalism thing sometimes. She called out Abigail Spanberger because it is just too obvious that Spamberger is trying to run out the clock and not answer tough questions and just let the Democrat machine propel her over the finish line, barely, because she won't tell Jay Jones he's got to drop out. Here's Spanberger's response to Couric. Remember, Jay Jones was the guy running for attorney general. I think he's actually dropped below Meares now for that.
Buck Sexton
Agarizz looks like hopefully going to win that race because there has been a consequence from the text chain scandal.
Clay Travis
And Katie Kirk's like, hey, Spamberger, you want to be governor? You got to be able to draw a hard line on this. Here's what Spamberger says. Play 8.
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Buck Sexton
You know, these texts are years old.
Clay Travis
That what answer. That's it. We got, we got texts are years old. That's the first. That's the first thing we're going with.
Buck Sexton
I, what I come back to, first of all, Spamberger is a far left wing candidate and Virginians are being sold a bill of goods, much like we were told that Joe Bide Biden was Grandpa Joe and he was going to be a very moderate Scranton Joe, middle of the road leader. And then as soon as he got in, he did everything the super left wing of the party wanted him to do. Abigail Spamberger will do that exact same thing in Virginia. And a lot of Virginians are being sold a bill of goods here. And they're going to wake up in a year and a half or two years and say, how did this happen? How are there all these dudes in women's locker rooms? How is my daughter playing a volleyball game against a 6 foot 5 dude who's smashing volleyball on the other side of the net? It's going to be because Abigail Spamberger says, well, we have to respect the gender identity of these teenage boys who are pretending to be girls. That's the reality, by the way. This is crazy. Did you see, Buck, the Minnesota Supreme Court voted 7 to 0 in the judged 7, 0, all Democrat appointees that a power lifter, male power lifter was being discriminated against. His human rights were being discriminated against and he had to be allowed by the Powerlifting association to compete as a woman. This is a big frigging dude. Like powerlifting of all things, Buck, you would think with strength. I mean, this is basically the most thing that masculinity matters the most on powerlifting of all things. 7. Oh, he has to be able to compete in women's athletics.
Clay Travis
This is a reminder, everyone, their plan, the Democrat, the left's plan on the trans agenda, trans rights, whatever, is not to moderate, is not to become rational. Their plan is to ride this out until they can force the insanity on you via the state. They can use state power first in places like Minnesota and then California. They can use state power to make you do this and make you pretend clay. Right? This is their, their plan is to just wait till the shoe is on the other foot and decide that they can make us comply. It's a. It's like we saw with COVID It's different in terms of obviously what we're talking about, but just they're going to use state force to make you do crazy stuff on trans the second they can. You're going to be told, clap for the 250 pound dude winning the powerlifting competitions and say his name is Sally and he's actually a girl. Or else that's the plan.
Buck Sexton
I mean, for those of you out there who would say, oh, this is an exaggerated issue. Seven members of the Supreme Court of the state of Minnesota just said it's a violation of this dude's human rights for the Powerlifting association to say you're actually a man. You're not allowed to compete as A woman.
Clay Travis
It is. It is. Absolutely. I mean, I know you're not saying this. It is absolutely not an exaggerated issue on our side. They make it an issue and then when people pay attention, they say, what are you talking about? It's not that big a deal. It's not happening that much. This is the argument of cowards. They won't stand behind the argument until, you know, it's like the person who will only pick a fight with somebody when he's got his 10 buddies there. Yeah. They only want the fight when it's when they know that they'll be able to use force to win. They don't want to actually have the debate in public. They don't want people to understand what's going on here. And they want to do this in states like Minnesota, which. What has happened. I used to go camping in Minnesota as a kid. So many nice people, no crime, lovely place. All I see is bad stuff now about at least what's going on and politics and I'm sure there's still nice camping sites, but politics and in Minneapolis, it's not good.
Buck Sexton
No, I think this is Minnesota. Nice is a real thing and many of you in Minnesota know it. I think Minnesota may be the foremost example of toxic empathy ruining a state because they have convinced a lot of people. Well, if you don't acknowledge that, I mean, there was the Minnesota where a dude pitched as a woman and won his girls team, the softball championship. Like a 6 foot 2 dude was saying, hey, identify as a girl. And they won a Minneapolis, Minnesota, Minnesota state softball championship. They beat all these other girl teams. So they're trying to be kind. This is where I think it comes from, Buck. I think it's a good point. They're trying to be kind. Same thing with George Floyd. Oh, you know, this is so unacceptable. Look, that this is how black people are treated all over Minnesota, all over the country. The BLM protest. What happened to George Floyd was a crazy outlier. And we could do probably whole shows on the calamity surrounding the criminal prosecution and everything else of Derek Chauvin in that entire case, but the fact that they didn't shut down the protests, the fact that Tim Walls and his wife bragged about leaving the mansion windows open so they could smell the city burning, as if that was somehow a sign of pride. There's a lot of white guilt. I think there's a lot of white kindness that has been used to drive toxic results all over the state of Minnesota.
Clay Travis
Well, the courtesy of people on the right, the innate Kindness, desire for respect, civility and decency has unfortunately been used as a Trojan horse for the left wing radical agenda on the trans stuff. The whole time. The whole time. Come on, this person's having a tough time. Just use the name. Just use the pronoun. Just be inclusive to now. It's, that's not Macho Man Randy Savage, you know, throwing elbows at these little girls and, and breaking their noses. That's Tina. No, it's Macho Man Randy Savage.
Buck Sexton
I mean, you see a picture of the power lifter in Minnesota. I mean, it is a huge dude, man. I mean, powerlifting for those of you who don't lift. Men who power lift are freakishly large dudes in the first place. Right? I mean, powerlifting is maybe the most aggressively masculine way to lift weights on the planet. So of all the things that you could be using to try to compete as a man in a women's sports, powerlifting might be. Is this Fairbuck might be the sport where you have almost the biggest advantage.
Clay Travis
Yes, I will. So I, A long time ago. And don't come at me CrossFitters. I think CrossFit actually does. Is very injury prone and I'm not a fan. But anyway, it's not for me. A long time ago I used to go to a CrossFit gym and you know, you'd put your, you'd put your stuff up there and there were, there were women in there who had quads the size of telephone poles. I'm just saying. Very, very strong. You and I can both bench more than they can easily.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
And people will sit there and make fun of us for being slouchy looking radio hosts. Which fair. But we can both bench more than.
Buck Sexton
Almost any woman on. Correct.
Clay Travis
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are rolling through a lot of different stories out there that all of you are following along with. Let me update you on 1. President Trump just said he's not going to surge federal forces in San Francisco after a late night call with San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie. And also he says that Lori is doing a decent job. Says that they are on the process of trying to fix San Francisco. Sounds like Jensen Wong and Mark Benoff and I may mispronounce Jensen Wang. Yeah, yeah. I was not even worried about mispronouncing his name. The Mark Benoff, the other big prominent San Franciscan also have talked with Trump and persuaded him not to surge federal enforcement. So that just came down. If you're listening to us in the Bay Area or maybe traveling to the Bay Area soon, they are saying that that things are improving and the mayor has pledged to take aggressive action and let him see if he can fix it instead of President Trump coming in. Again, that a truth social post that was just put out by President Trump in the last couple.
Clay Travis
I like this, by the way. I like that Trump is establishing that, hey, look, you can be a Democrat mayor in a Democrat city if you want to be reasonable and take the proper steps to keep people safe.
Buck Sexton
Great.
Clay Travis
We'll work with you. And you know, God bless. You want to be a maniac and pretend like everything's fine like they've been doing in Chicago. We might just have to send the feds in there to clean things up a bit. All right, look, it is day 23 of our federal government shutdown. It's not good for Anyone, it's likely to go on for some time. People in Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C. are most affected. If you're feeling the impact, if you've been furloughed, you're uncertain about the future and you want to cut some expenses. Well, PureTalk, the wireless company we rely on, save you money. Right now, the average size family of four saves over a thousand dollars a year when they switch from big wireless to Pure Talk because Pure Talk gives you unlimited talk, text and plenty of Data for just 25 bucks a month on Pure Talk's lightning fast 5G network. Plus right now, they'll take an additional 50 off your first month. That's serious savings that can take immediate action for you. And if you own a business and you transfer your lines, you could be saving even more. Dial pound250, say the keywords Clay and Buck and Pure Talk's US customer service team will switch you over in as little as 10 minutes. Plus you save 50% off your first month. Dial £250 and say Clay and Buck to switch to America's wireless company, Pure Talk. One more time. Dial £250, save 50% off your first month when you say Clay and Buck, switch to Pure Talk.
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Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We have Congressman Jim Jordan with us in the mix today. What's going on, Congressman?
Jim Jordan
How guys doing? Good to be with you.
Clay Travis
We're good. Can I there's a few things we have on the agenda for you today sort of to talk about in the news, but the shutdown starting to feel like the Democrats are playing a bit of chicken here and maybe not going to pull off, pull off the road. There's word that this could create a shortage in like food stamps for people or what. What is going on here?
Jim Jordan
Well, I mean, you guys have talked about this. We all know this is about the crazy left that now unfortunately has control of one of our major political parties. And like I said this, I think the first week this happened, Chuck Schumer's having a debate with Chuck Schumer because he was for this six months ago, but now he's not. And it's the darn same darn thing. But yeah, it's all about their, their lap. I've been telling people this underscores why the midterms are so the same mindset that says we won't vote for what we voted for before we're going to shut down the government is the same mindset. If they can get control, will go after President Trump will impeach him and do all this stuff that they did, you know, in his first term. That's, that's, that's what's at stake here. So I think the country sees this for just being ridiculous, and hopefully it ends sometime soon. But, but like, like, like you buck. I don't know. And they go for a while.
Buck Sexton
Jim, do you think this is related directly to Chuck Schumer being afraid of AOC and, and thinking that she might primary him in New York because he got so much?
Clay Travis
Can I just add to Clay's question? Yeah, I don't want to. Is that the bigger issue, or is the Obamacare subsidies and people realizing they're both issues? But which one do you think is driving this more, the Schumer shutdown or the Obamacare thing?
Jim Jordan
Well, I think it's probably the former, because, remember, it looks like even Leader Jeffries may get a primary in, in New York City. So I do think it's this phenomena that the hard left has control of that party, but I think that is driving this. And remember, Chuck Schumer took all kinds of heat from the left, including, frankly, from Hakeem Jeffries back in March when he allowed the Senate to pass the continuing resolution. So I think that is certainly big. But then they pick health care because that's the only issue they think they have. The only thing that polling shows they might have some somewhat of an advantage if you, if you can trust the polls, because it wasn't going to run on, you know, letting more people in the country like they did on border security. They're going to run on raising people's taxes. They're going to run on men and women's sports. I mean, there's no other issue they really have. So foreign policy, the president's been amazing. So I think, I think it's a combination, but I do think it's driven primarily by the hard left and the fact that he may get a primary, the Senate leader for the Democrats may get a primary. And now there's talk of Hakeem getting one, Hakeem Jeffries getting one as well.
Buck Sexton
So when you break all this down, I said, hey, I think they didn't want to have the shutdown because the no Kings protest is going on, Jim, and they didn't want to, like, bend the knee right beforehand. Now my, my sort of political antenna are up, and it's suggesting maybe they are in a bigger scrap than they anticipated with the Virginia race for governor and lieutenant governor and Attorney general.
Jim Jordan
Attorney general.
Buck Sexton
They somehow feel as if, if the government is shut down. Maybe left wing voters in Northern Virginia are more motivated to come out. Do you think that's also in play here? Because that's really, it doesn't make any sense that this, this battle would be going on and they would have so little at stake, by and large, to not be willing to keep moving along.
Jim Jordan
Yeah, that may in fact be the case. And so we may be, we may be in this till, till November 5th or longer, you know, after Election Day. But, you know, I would also just ever underestimate just this phenomena about the left hatred for President Trump. I mean, this, you know, we've talked before, Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing. And these, so many people on the left really have this phenomena going on and they are just out in any way. They think it's harmful to the President, harmful to Republicans. Therefore, even if it's something as ridiculous as shutting down the government because you won't vote for what you've already supported for good, we made this so simple. Here's the cr. It's short term. It's what you voted on. I mean, and you can't vote for that. Like they're saying we need to compromise. We've already did. We've given you the bill that you support six months ago, for goodness sake.
Clay Travis
Speaking of Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio, you all know Congressman Jordan and New York Post certainly knows him because they've got him in a side by side here, I see, with former CIA Director Brennan. Because, Congressman, tell us what's going on here. There's been a referral by the House Judiciary Committee regarding ex CIA Director Brennan for lying under oath. What's happening?
Jim Jordan
Yeah, well, you all know you're not supposed to lie, but you're definitely not supposed to lie when you're under oath talking to Congress. And it looks like that's exactly what John Brennan did. And it looks like he did that because God bless Tulsi Gabbard, the Director, National Intelligence declassified a report from the House Intelligence Committee from a few years ago. And that report says just what Brennan told us in this deposition. He told us, oh, I was not involved with the dossier at all during the whole Russia hoax. Baloney. And I didn't want it included in the intelligence community assessment. Well, then we get to declassify the report from, from Director Gabbard. And it says just the opposite. It says, oh, no, it warrants the dossier warrants being included in the ica. And that means a person at the CIA confronted the Director and said, director, this dossier is garbage. The underlying intelligence is just not there. We shouldn't use it. And Brennan's response was, according to this CIA official. Yeah, but doesn't it ring true? Just demonstrating his motive, his biases, his, you know, out to get President Trump attitude. And so, look, I don't do many of these. I've only done a few of these referrals because I think you really got to have the evidence that they violated 18 USC 1001, which says you can't lie to Congress, wouldn't impede their investigation. But we did it with Brennan. And we point out in the letter this is part of a pattern with this guy, because I think he also lied to Trey Gowdy when Trey questioned him a few years back on the same issue. And of course, the irony was, guys, we were deposing Brendan as part of a different investigation. We were deposing him because he was one of the 51 guys who signed the letter, the now famous letter saying the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian information operation when they had the FBI had this stinking laptop and knew it wasn't. So we were deposing on that. But we get into this other Russian stuff and he lies to us about that. And that's why we think the facts are strong. And we sent the. We sent you a letter to Attorney General Bondi.
Buck Sexton
We're talking to Representative Jim Jordan from the great state of Ohio. Jim, when you look at what Trump has done, we were just up in Fort Wayne, Indiana yesterday. Buck and I were. And I think you can make a strong argument that this is the greatest year that we have ever seen of any president in terms of total impact, what he's been able to do.
Clay Travis
Real wins, not just promises. This is what we're talking to the woah wo folks about, is that Trump is racking up the scoreboard. Sorry, Clay.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, no, it's exactly right. And when you look at you were there for Trump 1.0. How much more efficient and effective do you think the first year of Trump 2.0 has been than anything we saw? Trump 1.0. What do you attribute it to? And do you sign on to that take that we put out there and that we've been arguing quite a bit on this show?
Jim Jordan
Yeah, 100% sign on to what you guys said. It's been an amazing nine months, frankly. Just, just truly amazing. I thought his first term was amazing. But I do think this is better for a couple reasons. One, he's just focused. He's been through this before. He knows how Crazy the media is going to be, how crazy the left's going to be. And it's not deterring him. He's focused on the mission. Second, the people he's put in running these key agencies are actually Trump people. The first time he had Rex Tillerson, for goodness sake, he had Jeff Sessions, for goodness sake, running, you know, State and Justice, they weren't necessarily on the team. So. But the team he's put together, and we deal with the justice, I mean, Pam Bonney, Todd Blynch, Cash Patel, Dan Bonney, these guys are good people who are focused on doing their job the way it's supposed to be in serving the taxpayers. And then finally, I would say this, I always say we make this job of politics way too complicated, very darn simple. What'd you tell the folks you were going to do when you ran for the job if you get elected, go do what you said. And no one has done it better than President Trump. He said he would cut taxes. He did. He said he'd get men out of women's sports. He has. He said he would make sure Iran doesn't get nuclear capabilities with the help of Israel and our great military. He accomplished that. He said that he would secure the border, for goodness sake. He accomplished that just a few months. So on and on it goes. And he's just focused on doing what he said, what he was elected to do. And that's what's frustrating the Democrats and why they got to like, oh, we're gonna have to shut down the government and create some crazy Obamacare issue to justify that. Because he is doing what he said he would do and getting it done in just an amazing way.
Clay Travis
Congressman, how are we looking for the. I know it's a year out, but because we're all focused on this upcoming election, at least in a few places. Some, some big races are happening. New York, I mean, sorry, New Jersey, Virginia. Well, New York, New York City Mayor, how are you feeling about the Republicans chances in the House, especially given that this administration is getting things done, the Republican Party is keeping its promises and, you know, how do you. How do you war game that a year from now?
Jim Jordan
I feel good. I mean, I feel like we break the trend because the trend is typically against us when you're the party in power in the White House. Tough in the midterms. But I feel good because of the record we just talked about, because we're recruiting good candidates. I do think redistricting is going to net out in favor of us. I mean, it's happening in so many different states. It's in the news every day, it seems. And then finally, Trump has just fundamentally changed American politics. I mean, I look at Youngstown, Ohio. I mean, you can look at our whole state, but take Youngstown, Ohio. Ohio now has a Republican member of Congress representing the city. The state senator is Republican, and the state reps in that area are Republican as well. 25 years ago, this was the most Democrat area in the state. In the country, maybe, and now it's represented by Republicans because he has fundamentally changed the party and politics and is, I think, truly fighting for middle class, working class and all Americans. And I think that that message is getting through.
Buck Sexton
Good luck to the Buckeyes as the season continues, Congressman, I think they are going to continue to roll, and I know you got Wisconsin connections, too. Good. Good luck to them because I think they really need it.
Jim Jordan
Oh, man. Poor Fickle. It's been tough. You got to have a quarterback to win games, and it's just been tough for the. For the Badgers, no doubt about it. But the Buckeyes are, as you point out, looking good. You did great on. I caught you earlier on this crazy NBA story.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. I mean, what's your take on that? I mean, this is like we started off the. The show talking about this, and obviously I was talking about it on Fox News, too. I mean. Yeah, this is just all bonkers, huh?
Jim Jordan
No kidding. I was joking with our media guy. I said, makes you long for the good old days when Pete Rose only bet for the Reds to win.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Jim Jordan
And as far as I know, was not involved with the mob. I mean. Yeah, this is. This is. Yeah, this is wild. And throwing games that I hadn't. I haven't seen the videos, but people tell me, like, there's some videos of the.
Buck Sexton
Oh, I mean, you watch, you watch some of these plays. I mean. Yeah, it is. It is bad. It is very bad. Congressman Jim Jordan, keep up the good work, and we'll have you on whenever it makes sense.
Jim Jordan
All right, we'll see you guys. Take care.
Clay Travis
Congressman. Appreciate you. Classic. A quick question, Clay, actually, about this.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Clay Travis
Have people tried to make the case to me again as a. As a. Not. Not as, you know, not somebody who does this sports stuff. Professional or college a lot. But if you want to bet on your team, why is that bad? If I'm a player, if I'm a quarterback and I want to bet a million dollars that my team can win? I understand, obviously it's fraud if you're going against your team, because the implication is you always want your team to win. But do people ever make that case that there's something very different about I, I have full faith that I'm going to win this. So I'm going to put putting money on yourself versus I'm just wondering about that because yeah, I didn't know that.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, Pete Rose did that. You lose and eventually you end up having to pay back the money. So it just puts you out of whack. Now to be fair, boxers do it all the time. Boxers in Vegas have gone in and said, hey, I'm going to put, I think Floyd Mayweather did it. I'm going to put a million dollars down on me to win. Like I'm going to walk into a casino. So certain leagues prohibit it as part of player contracts.
Clay Travis
So, so there are carve outs for that because that's very different.
Buck Sexton
It usually has to be an individual athlete. So some boxers have bet on themselves. Now obviously you can't bet against yourself. I mean that would raise a lot of red flags as a fraud. But yeah, some boxers have gone forward. I think some UFC fighters in the past or mixed martial arts fighters, if not UFC in particular. A lot of the contracts as a part of the players association do not allow you to gamble on any sport. Sometimes they'll allow you to do casino table wagering. But there's always been the fear that you end up in debt and then as a way to pay back the debt you could give it away. That if you really want to dive into the particulars of, you know, sports gambling and refs have always been the ones that team particularly susceptible. Right. So referees, because they don't make as much money, most of us Buck sat around and said, you know, a guy making $26 million is never going to be dumb enough to risk it all for $200,000 right now that's the allegation against Terry Rosier in the NBA. But we would sometimes sit around and say, you know, if you're an official and you make 120k, 10 grand or 5 grand to you is a lot more than to an average athlete. And, and so that's always been like the area that I thought was susceptible. But again the bright lights of regulation theoretically would allow you to get caught called and obviously if you're an official, you're not allowed to gamble on these games at all. When you got your kids under your roof, you don't play around keeping everybody safe. Our sponsor Saber family owned business making self protection tools for 50 years. Pepper gel gun is a great example, shaped like a pistol or rifle, depending on the model. Fires off a pepper gel projectile, goes the difference, goes the distance, making it effective against an intruder. And also just pepper pepper sprays. We're talking about this yesterday in Fort Wayne. You never know when you might be walking through a parking lot late at night. Maybe you got a kid or a grandkid and they've got a new job and they are getting off late hours at a restaurant or at a mall or somewhere out there and they got to walk to a car. Why not have pepper gel, spray that pepper spray on the phone, on the keychain of every single one of your keychains for your teenager, for yourself, for your wife, for your daughter, for your granddaughter. Go check it out right now. Saberradio.com I'm telling you, you're going to love these products. We have every single one of them in the Travis house. S A b r e radio.com 15% off when you go there. You can also call 844-824 safe. That's 844-824 safe.
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NeverChange welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We have been taking off on all different sorts of directions. Our thing thanks to Jim Jordan who was just with us right there. We got a ton of different talk back. We were talking earlier about Minnesota and Sam from western Minnesota listening on Newstalk 1130 103.5 radio. Seven Supreme Court justices in Minnesota said that a man who identifies as a woman should be committed, should be allowed to participate in powerlifting competitions there because it is a violation of his human rights. This is all seven Supreme Court justices all appointed, go figure. By Democrats. Sam, G.G. reacting to that.
Jim Jordan
Sam from western Minnesota, I can tell you right now that most of people that live in Minnesota that aren't in the metro don't believe in this BS Supreme Court ruling. It's literally these freaks in the metro area that have taken over the place is garbage. I'm talking about Minneapolis and St. Paul. It is a joke down. But the rest of us are fine.
Clay Travis
Can I just say next time, Sam, please put your jackhammer down while you're.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, that. We got a lot of people from Minnesota weighing in that are fed up with the decisions being made by their leadership. But that Minnesota Supreme Court case, again, if you didn't hear seven oh, a man is having his human, his, his human rights violated by not being able to compete as a woman in power.
Clay Travis
I think someone in someone in Minnesota maybe has to bring a case for being either transracial or trans age straight point. Just, just really start to make these judges. Just make them deal with what by.
Buck Sexton
Their own logical petard would be one way to put it. We'll be back next hour. Closing up shop.
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Date: October 23, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Guest: Congressman Jim Jordan (Ohio)
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into key political flashpoints with a focus on the Virginia governor’s race, the impact of far-left influence on the Democratic Party, the controversy over women’s sports and transgender participation, the ongoing federal government shutdown, and the House Judiciary Committee’s referral of former CIA Director John Brennan for allegedly lying to Congress. Special guest Congressman Jim Jordan provides insight on the shutdown dynamics, Democratic in-fighting, Trump’s presidency, and upcoming races.
Discussion on Polls and Media Narratives
Sexism Claims and Democratic Messaging
Mika Brzezinski's claim that sexism is hurting Spanberger and other female candidates is critiqued.
Clay points out Spanberger’s opponent is also a woman of color, questioning the validity of the sexism argument.
“Abigail Spanberger is running against a black woman. So how is it that Abigail Spanberger being a woman is the cause of her difficulties?”
— Clay Travis (05:45)
Buck extends the critique by referencing other races, arguing that women win and lose elections like men, and points to candidates like Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris as poor examples of sexism playing a role.
“There are women winning elections all over the country, and sometimes women lose elections all over the country just like men do.”
— Buck Sexton (06:27)
Memorable pop culture moment: Clay references "As Good as It Gets" (08:13), using a Jack Nicholson line as a humorous jab at the logic of attributing every loss to sexism.
The Minnesota Supreme Court’s 7-0 decision requiring a male powerlifter who identifies as female to compete in women's powerlifting is discussed as an example of “toxic empathy” and the “left’s trans agenda.”
“Seven members of the supreme Court of the state of Minnesota just said it's a violation of this dude's human rights…”
— Buck Sexton (13:18)
Clay and Buck speculate that such cases, which they argue are forced through by state power, represent the progressive goal of enforcing compliance with their views on gender identity.
“Their plan is to ride this out until they can force the insanity on you via the state…”
— Clay Travis (13:18)
Both hosts cite concern that the left uses kindness and tolerance as “Trojan horses” to advance their agenda:
“The innate kindness, desire for respect, civility, and decency has unfortunately been used as a Trojan horse for the left wing radical agenda...”
— Clay Travis (15:59)
With Rep. Jim Jordan (25:43–37:33)
Jim Jordan attributes the shutdown to “the crazy left that now unfortunately has control of one of our major political parties.”
He argues that Democratic leaders like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are now beholden to the hard left, possibly fearing primary challenges from figures like AOC.
“It's this phenomena that the hard left has control of that party… Schumer took all kinds of heat from the left… when he allowed the Senate to pass the continuing resolution.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (27:28)
Discussion of potential impacts of the shutdown on benefits like food stamps.
The possibility is raised that the shutdown might be used to manipulate turnout in key races, such as the Virginia governor's race, especially in left-leaning Northern Virginia.
“We may be in this till November 5th or longer, you know, after Election Day… never underestimate just this phenomena about the left hatred for President Trump.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (29:20)
Jordan details the House Judiciary Committee’s referral of ex-CIA Director John Brennan for allegedly lying under oath about his involvement with the infamous Steele dossier during the Russia investigation.
“It looks like that's exactly what John Brennan did. And it looks like he did that because… the Director, National Intelligence declassified a report…”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (30:42)
Jordan frames this as part of a pattern of dishonesty and partisanship by Brennan.
Notably, Jordan mentions the 51 intelligence officials’ letter on Hunter Biden’s laptop as a further instance of political weaponization.
Both hosts describe Trump’s current term as more focused and effective, crediting better personnel choices and a commitment to fulfilling campaign promises.
“I thought his first term was amazing, but I do think this is better for a couple reasons. One, he's just focused… Second, the people he's put in running these key agencies are actually Trump people…”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (33:26)
Jordan claims the GOP is well positioned going into the next Congressional election cycle, citing improved candidate recruitment, redistricting advantages, and Trump’s realignment of traditional political coalitions.
“Trump has just fundamentally changed American politics… now it's represented by Republicans because he has fundamentally changed the party and politics and is, I think, truly fighting for middle class, working class and all Americans.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (35:27)
“Referees, because they don't make as much money, most of us… said, you know, a guy making $26 million is never going to be dumb enough to risk it all for $200,000.”
— Buck Sexton (38:14)
“There's a desperate attempt here to try and make themselves victims and the sign of oppression, but they're not even doing the research that's required…”
— Buck Sexton (07:43)
“Remember, J. Jones was the guy running for attorney general. I think he's actually dropped below Miares now for that.”
— Clay Travis (09:28)
“You have to pretend that it's not Macho Man Randy Savage… That's Tina. No, it's Macho Man Randy Savage.”
— Clay Travis (15:59)
“Never underestimate just this phenomenon about the left hatred for President Trump. I mean, this… Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (29:32)
“No one has done it better than President Trump. He said he would cut taxes. He did. He said he'd get men out of women's sports. He has.”
— Rep. Jim Jordan (33:57)
“Seven Supreme Court justices in Minnesota said that a man who identifies as a woman should be allowed to participate in powerlifting competitions there because it is a violation of his human rights. This is all seven Supreme Court justices all appointed… by Democrats.”
— Buck Sexton (45:41)
“I'm talking about Minneapolis and St. Paul. It is a joke down, but the rest of us are fine.”
— Sam from Western Minnesota (45:49)
The episode maintains its trademark blend of sarcasm, cultural references, and political humor while sharply critiquing left-wing positions and policies. The hosts’ banter, along with Jim Jordan’s candidness, provides a conversational—sometimes irreverent—take on current controversies.
End of Hour 2 Summary