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Clay Travis
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And I'm Maria Konnikova. On our podcast Risky Business, we talk everything from politics to poker and from.
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Betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. Sports bettors need a bit more street smarts because there's this whole second side to sports betting of how do you actually. How do you get your money down good if people think that you're a winning better. And now that March madness is upon us, we're talking bracket strategies, odds, how to maybe actually win your office pool. You can listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts, welcome in Clay.
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Clay Travis
Travis, BUCK SEXTON SHOW Our number two. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. The tariff battle continues. We have talked quite a lot about that. There has been a massive swing today in stock market prices. We are not CNBC or Fox Business, so we will not tell you every single day what the stock market prices are. But this is the latest battleground as Trump tries to remake the American economy and helped to make American trade practices fairer around the globe. In particular, this is a battle with China. I would expect, Buck, and I bet you would sign off on this, that in the days and the weeks and the months ahead, basically 90% of all these countries are going to come to the table and America's going to end up with a better trade partnership with those countries going forward. And really, ultimately the battleground is going to come down to, as has been predicted for some time and as Trump has been talking about truly for decades, we what our relationship ends up being with China and how that situation resolves itself. That is really the underlying conflict that is going on at its most basic level is the United States versus China on how global trade policy is going to play out.
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Buck Sexton
And we haven't spent much time today talking about the national security component of all of this, but it is, it is substantial. You cannot have your primary adversary on the world stage, which is China. I know we're supposed to always be so scared of everything Russia does, but Russia has a fraction of the population and a fraction of the economy. And you cannot be in a situation where you rely on your adversary. Think about that for a moment. Imagine if during the Cold War, like, look, we don't need to make antibiotics, we don't need to make robotics, we don't need, we'll just get it all from Moscow. I mean, that would be considered pretty nuts right now. That obviously wasn't the case because, you know, communism, it turns out, is not. But China has a different version of communism. It's kind of like a market, market based communism, if you will, or market based collectivism that they've been able to grow very, very rapidly, particularly over the last 40 years. But Clay, as we've discussed the wars between near peer nations in the future, it's not going to be like what we've seen in the global war on terror, terror era. It's going to be who can produce the most material at the highest level with the best technology and deploy it the fastest. And that's going to determine, I think, who wins conflicts. And so the, the idea that we're just going to continue with the status quo and we can't make our own antibiotics and we can't make a lot of our own electronics and we need China as part of our day to day supply chain. That is an unsustainable long term arrangement. While China of course is doing the tariff thing so much which we are told only makes you poorer somehow. A billion plus people in China, Clay, haven't gotten that memo that the global is funny. Right? Somehow China hasn't gotten the memo that it's so dumb. The EU hasn't gotten the memo that it's so dumb. Israel hasn't gotten it until now. Now they're like, hey America, we're buddies, we'll get rid of those tariffs. They hadn't gotten the memo. That's a lot of countries that are doing something that we are all supposed to believe is manifestly self defeating and idiotic. Right? And I'll tell you this, you look at our immigration policies and we're the only country that has 10 million plus people that have piled into it. You know, it's not like we can't be the outlier in a bad way. We're so used to being number one or being the outlier in a good way. But we're the only country that was supposed to adopt effectively open borders. In Europe it's different in Europe. It's mostly migrants who they've invited in. They've said, okay, we're going to take you. And now they know Germany and Sweden, they're finding this out the hard way. Maybe that wasn't such a great idea. They didn't have people walking across the border from Norway into Sweden. Right. We have a unique problem set there too. So I think that people are going to see more and more that the consensus on this is not, not, not correct. Certainly not as solid as it pretends to be.
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Clay Travis
And let me just say this because I get it and you guys can all weigh in. I'm looking right now. On April 14, 2024, the S&P 500 was, in fact, I'm screenshotting it if I can, was at 49, 67, 23. All right, that is lower than it is today, but basically the same price. Okay, so for everyone out there that is running around with their hair on fire, stock prices today, meaning The S&P 500 is the exact same place basically that it was one year ago. I look if the stock market drops to 2500 in the S&P 500, something like that. Catastrophic. I'll look back and I'll say, boy, you know, you should have gotten out at 4900. But my point on it is I bet none of you were panicked in any way on April 14th of last year. Your stocks are the exact same value basically that they were a year ago at this time. Ideally, stock prices go up, but if you bought one year ago and you've just held them, then you are the exact same place as you were before. So again, like, I understand what they're doing. Buck, you and I were talking about this off air a couple of weeks ago. What was the calamity that could not be ignored? The signal group. Signal gate, remember? Remember signal gate. Oh my goodness, can you believe that? They were, they were sharing information and this journalist from the Atlantic was on it and heads must roll. And is anybody talking about that right now? Now then, before this, what was it? Price of eggs. Everybody went out in unison and they said, look at how Trump is tanking the economy. What did they point to? They said, look at what it costs for everybody out there trying to buy a dozen of eggs. Price of eggs actually down since Joe Biden left office, by the way, Trump, is the price of eggs actually come down to the extent that all of you are out there buying eggs every single day, Prices are down. Now the new thing is, there's always a new new thing with Trump, a new line of attack. The new line of attack is Trump has destroyed the stock market. Well, actually the stock market, same price it was a year ago and none of these people talked for two years. When Joe Biden was in office, the stock market was actually down for a two year process.
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Buck Sexton
We also haven't talked more about how important rates are in all of this. You should be able to put your money in the bank. This sounds crazy. Now think about how much this has changed. It used to be if you were a saver, you could save money, put it in the bank and get a reasonable rate of return on your money. And that was something that a lot of people would do and depends on when this was. But you know, you have to obviously look at how inflation chips away at that, but you could still be ahead. And so there was an encourage, there was some encouraged savings through policy. You see what's going on now. You can't do that anymore. You're just losing money in a savings account because of inflation in recent years. And you look at The S&P 500, right, which is this basket of 500 companies and a lot of people invest in it. And this is what really moves the market. Clay, it had a 25% gain in 2024 and a 26% gain in 2023. This is not based on real productivity. It's not possible. The 500American companies didn't become 30% more productive or efficient roughly in 2023 or 2024. This is all financial alchemy. This is the political system determining that it's easier to anesthetize people at the top with cheap money and to make everyone think the market's better than it is. Than to look at the reality of we have been on a binge and we need to go on a diet totally.
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Clay Travis
And again, I just think you need to understand where the attacks come from and comprehend that this is about coming after Trump aggressively. Let me just say this too, and we're going to continue to talk about it. Trump didn't have to try any of this. He could have come into office and done what most presidents do, which is kind of trim around the edges a little bit, not really change any of the trajectory at all. He is trying to make decisions that will benefit Americans long after his political career is over. He's trying to completely change the way that our trade deals are constructed, the way that we handle border security and balance the budget, all in the space of roughly 100 days. He has aggressively taken this on. So again, on a day to day basis, I think a lot of you are going to be nervous if you follow the stock market tracking day to day. If, if you follow it over six month periods, over one month, one year periods, then the trajectory is going to be 8 or 9% a year. You're going to make 8 or 9% a year. Every 10 years your money's going to double. That's what basically the last hundred years has shown us. So does it happen every 10 years? Does your money double? No. Does every year your money go up 8 or 9%? No. But I do think that if you want to make good decisions going forward, you should be in the stock market. I don't know where else you're gonna put your money, candidly. And for those of you out there that are not invested in the stock market, Buck, I thought you kind of laid it out that you are going to be impacted in some way based on the long term trajectory of the stock market because that's how jobs are created. Unless you're a government employee and you never have to worry about anything other than the deficit being enough to Pay your salary. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Or Elon finding out that you do nothing all day, that's also. That's a new thing. Look, if you, if you take a company, just take a company. Well, you take Disney. And I know that we all like to beat up on Disney, and Disney deserves it. But just for way of our example here, if the Disney stock plummets, Disney is then going to have, is then going to make determinations based upon its stock price. It's probably going to make cuts because it's going to try to create more cash flow for the market. And as it makes those cuts, it's going to fire people. And it's, you know, you see, there's this cascading effect where the market is an indicator of other things that matters to people. Job losses matters to all of us. Right. Unemployment number matters to all of us. And, you know, so. So there's going to be a little bit of watching that that needs to happen here. But, Clay, you brought up the price of gas, the price of oil, remember, petroleum is 50% goes into gas, gasoline and, you know, transport in that way. The rest of it goes into products. And that is reflected in the overall price that you pay for everything all the time. So a dropping price of gasoline can also be very, very helpful in all of this. You know, look, as I keep saying, arguing about whether Trump should do this or not, I'm seeing a lot of people, Clay, saying that is is really a fool's errand because Trump is doing it. He's earned the right to take this gamble. He owns this. It's his gamble. And I think we're going to see that it goes very well. And because of the system we have, if for some reason Trump is wrong and that's that, and we see that, as Clay has said in 18 months, if the economy's in a really bad, truly in a bad spot, Democrats are going to absolutely annihilate us in the midterms, and you're going to have a very competitive next presidential election, period. So this is, this is where we are. Right. I feel like everyone just, just ride with it, roll with it. This is what's going to happen. And there can be moderation and, or, you know, modifications made this whole system, the whole approach, Clay, is built on possible modification. That's why you have 50 countries that have come forward. People act like what it is now is supposed to be what it is in 30 days. No. Does anyone understand that China is engaged in its own brinksmanship, too? They're saying, oh, they see the pressure that Trump is under from some people, from some quarters right now. So they go, you know what, we're going to raise our tariffs on you substantially. We're going to double down on this. Trump's going to back. You think Trump is going to back down at that point? You know, you think Trump is the guy at the negotiating table when you play hardball, he goes, you know, probably I don't like hardball. I just want to be friends. No, clearly not.
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Clay Travis
So I, I love all of this in the context of we're basically now because of Trump buck, like for right now we're CNBC and we're Fox Business. Everybody objectively cares about where the stock market is on a day to day basis right now, obsessively because they want to attack Trump for it. But it is really hysterical that they were saying, you know, this signal controversy, I don't know how Trump's going to shake this. This goes to the heart and core of his administration. There isn't a single story anywhere about the signal story. And I think ultimately Trump understands media and he understands story better than any of the people trying to criticize him in media. And that's ultimately his gift. That is over and above everybody else. He knows how much of the narrative arc is total bs.
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Buck Sexton
You know, something else that I'll throw out there. If Trump just tried to run some establishment GOP presidency now, it would be a betrayal of what he promised his voters during the campaign. It would be a trail of a betrayal of what Trump says that he wants to do and believes in. So if you just let things happen as they're happening, if he didn't do Doge, if he didn't shut down the border and if he didn't try this trade gambit, well, you know what he's going to do? A little tax cut. You could get that from a Bush administration, right? We voted for disruption. Let's look at the disruption. You know, you vote for somebody to shake things up, don't complain when it's shaken. And that's where we are right now. Lean into it a little bit. It's all going to be fine. And if not, Clan are going to be wearing clown noses on the radio show tomorrow.
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Clay Travis
Oh, you're signed on with me now?
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Buck Sexton
Well, not on Piers's show. That's your thing. But yeah.
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Clay Travis
October 7, 2026, we will wear. You'll wear a clown nose with me on the show.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I can't do. You're, you know, can't let wingman wear a Clown nose without me. Like, you know, this is, like, you know, this is, you know, if, if I just, I think I might have to follow you on this one. All right, look, this is, this is transition to something serious. But as you know, if you are going to carry a firearm to defend yourself, you have to be prepared to make that very important decision. I conceal carry down here in South Florida and I've been in places abroad where I've carry weapons to defend myself for the government. And if you're going to defend yourself, it's a big decision. But guess what, you need to also prepare for the consequences of that decision. And you really need to do this and you need to take action now because you can end up in court even if you're 100% right. In fact, I know of cases, I know of people who have ended up because they defended themselves with a firearm. They still ended up in court. Some of them even ended up getting prosecuted, had to defend themselves. So it's not about just what you did, it's how it's interpreted. It's the politics in that county. This is why you need to become a member of the uscca. Clay and I are both members. I conceal Carry, Clay is a lawyer. We come at this from two sides. All of you who own a firearm need to join USCCA. Download USCCA's free guide. You can even do that before you become a member to check it out. This isn't a gimmick, it's tangible information. It's practical. Their concealed carry and family defense guide walks you through what to do before, during and after a self defense incident. Mental prep, legal insight, step by step training. United States Concealed Carry association is something you need to join as a firearm owner and especially if you ever even think that you're going to be carrying, this is the association you need to be a part of because you might have to go to court. And I don't want you to be bankrupted by that. I want you to be prepared. Go to uscca.com buck to get your free guide today. That is uscca.com buck stories of freedom. Stories of America.
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Clay Travis
Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton SHOW we have not talked, I don't think on the program about an awful story that happened in Texas. A 17 year old, I believe, high school kid in Texas was stabbed in the heart by a suspect, guy named Carmelo Anthony, not the basketball player for those of you out there, 17 year old, also Texas kid. There was a dispute over where the 17 year old should be sitting. And the 17 year old that is accused of committing the murder had a knife in his, in his bag, said hey, if you tell me where to go, he was sitting in the wrong area, there will be basically consequences. The other kid says, hey, you shouldn't be sitting here, you're in the wrong place. And the Carmelo Anthony kid stands up and stabs the 17 year old in the heart and he bleeds out, dies there in the arms of his twin brother. I mean it is an awful story and not surprisingly it has gotten attention to a large extent only on right wing media because it is, and I say right wing media, it is a story that is uncomfortable for much left wing media because the kid that got stabbed to death was a white kid. The kid that did the stabbing was a black kid. Now this happened in Frisco for those of you not familiar, that's about 30 miles north of Dallas. And the individual who was stabbed to death, Austin Metcalfe, he was an 11th grader at Memorial High School in that area. Okay, I've got buck, 17, 14, 10 year old. So anytime I see a story like this, it makes me sick to my stomach. My son is the same age as this. My oldest is the same age as this kid who was both stabbed and also the stabber. The reason we're talking about it is There is a GoFundMe page that has been created for the Carmelo Anthony, the individual that is accused of stabbing this young kid to death. And it is raised $160,000 I believe. Buck, you have it open in front of you right now? Yes. Why? I think this is interesting and I want to get your reaction to it. First of all, it's awful and this is emblematic unfortunately of what happens with young people when it comes to violence in America today. Relatively inconsequential issues are leading to death. And this is a snapshot of what happens all over the country.
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Buck Sexton
And there's more than that, too. I mean, the. There's a lot of conversation now around. Because this, this. For something like this to happen at a high school athletic event over who's sitting in what section. Yes, you have to. There's. There's no. There's no. Okay. There's a lot to be said here. One is that people are pointing out, why is it that half the murders in this country are committed by Black men age 16 to 40 and we're not allowed to. That. That's just the way that the statistics are. Right? That's. That's part of the conversation. Why. Why is there such a disproportionate. And we can get into all that conversation, but you should be able to say that out loud without people gasping and saying, how dare you say that? That's just a fact. It's just a fact. So why is one part of the American community committing such a disproportionate share of the violence? Now, generally, as I also know these statistics, the black community, when there is violence, it's men. It's not. We're not talking about women, Black men. It's against other black men. However, when you look at interracial violence, it is also wildly, disproportionately the case that there will be black violence against a non black individual than a non black individual committing violence against a black person. So this is what the conversation online has. That was initially where it turned. That was what it turned into. You know, Matt Walsh asked this question, got over the Daily Wire, got a lot of heat from people. He's saying, look, why are we ever allowed to say that maybe that this, there should be some way to culturally, socially, to address this pro. This, this issue, this disparity. Okay? Disparity in other ways we can talk about all day long, right? Disparity in household income. How do we fix that disparity? Other disparities are to be addressed. This disparity is not to be talked about. And I think, by the way, not.
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Clay Travis
Only are to be addressed are a sign that America is failing. Right, like the failure to address the wealth gap.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Yes, absolutely.
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Buck Sexton
You are problem. So now what's happened, because the online left has gotten involved is they're saying, oh, it was a case of self defense, just like Kyle Rittenhouse. This is what they're. This is what they're trying to. They're trying to say. And I think that that has outraged a lot of people. Because first of all, there was, I know the father of the boy who stabbed to death. He is a, he is a believing Christian and he said, I forgive him. And there are a lot of people that are saying, I don't want to get into that. I didn't just lose a child. I'm not going to criticize somebody who did. I would not personally be saying that I forgave anyone. I would be wondering if I could be the one that threw the switch on the electric chair. But put that aside. I'm a different person, that person. And I didn't just lose a family member, a son. Self defense for this claim. I'm sorry that the left is so unfamiliar with this. It's interesting, Clay, just like with firearms, there's a tremendous disparity politically and culturally between the left and the right when it comes to issues. When it comes to self defense, they have no idea. Just like they don't understand anything about law enforcement. Just they, they, they have a very superficial and generally idiotic view of it. They don't understand that, for example, if somebody walks up to my car and they say, you know, hey, give me all your money or I'm going to kill you. You know, I'm going to shoot you. I have a gun in my pocket in Florida. If I drew down on them and if people believe that that threat was there, that that's what was said, maybe this is on video or whatever. People believe that my life is in danger. I am justified. If somebody walk up to my car and like, hey, you drive like a jerk and I pulled out my gun and I shot them, I'm a murderer. I'm going to prison, as I should. Right. Self defense is not. We are in an argument. I'm going to kill you. That that's not self defense. And that's what happened with this individual quite clearly. Ok. We're arguing over a chair. You know, unless he believed he was in fear of. He stabbed this kid in the heart. Yeah. Another part of this too try that's I'm killing you. Okay. Anybody with a knife knows, you know, you could slash. I'm not saying do this. I mean, if you slash somebody in the face, you slash them in the arm, you slash them in the stomach, you're going to get, you know, they're going to run away and be like, oh my God, they're going to want to not deal with you anymore. Right. Stabbed him in the heart to kill him. And now people on the left are saying, and there are some prominent, you Know, some prominent commentator type, not prominent, but some commentator types are saying this too. It's self defense. And it's. People are taking it as a real slap in the face because instead of the conversation about why would somebody resort to lethal violence in this circumstance against a high school peer with no real provocation, it's yeah, it was self defense defense. You know what I mean? It's really the left spitting on the grave of this kid.
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Clay Travis
Not only that, GoFundMe has a policy where they did not allow Kyle Rittenhouse to raise money. In fact, they shut down any attempt to raise money for him to be able to defend himself. And in general, I think their policy is these fundraisers aren't allowed because, for instance, a guy like Luigi Mangione Buck would probably sadly raise millions of dollars for his legal defense if they had a GoFundMe up for him.
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Buck Sexton
GoFundMe being a bunch being run by a bunch of left wing communists, though. I mean, this is, unfortunately, this is just the deal. This is why a lot of people don't like GoFundMe because it's a left wing entity and they do this. It's a private entity. They're allowed to make their own. It's like a social media company. Right. Which we saw with all of them for a long time. Completely arbitrary, not, I shouldn't say arbitrarily in partisan and, and very intentional fashion are hurting one side to benefit the other. So, I mean, GoFundMe falls into that category as well. But the claim that now this ties in because the claim of self defense, you can see that people are believing this because they're giving money on the GoFundMe. So now you have people that are hearing this story who are saying, I want to support this kid who stabbed this other kid in the heart in front of his dad and his brother because he said, you're not supposed to be seated in this section. You know, this, this is, this is appalling. I mean, to your point about Luigi Mangioni, people are really rightly upset at this. What American wants, what America well wants is an interesting question there, isn't it? What American believes this story that this kid actually thought in a, in a, in a. Who had the knife, who had the weapon? The kid who killed him. Yeah. How could he have been. How could he have been in a position where he thought he was under threat of extreme violence and. Or threat of his life? He didn't. This kid should go to prison the rest of his life. This is not a hard case.
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Clay Travis
I think that's right. I think it also speaks to masculinity in crisis because to Your point, yes, 16 to 40 year old black men commit over half of all murders in this country, which is a staggering perspective stat considering that 16 to 40 year old black men probably represent, what do you think, 3% of the overall United States population, 5% at most. I mean, it's a tiny percentage of the overall population and they represent over half of all murders.
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Buck Sexton
And it's even, it's even more disconcerting. You look in a place like New York City where on a per capita basis the poorest ethnicity in New York City is when you include the Asian immigrant population. There's a lot of very poor Asians, whether South Asian or East Asian, and New York City clay, who commit effectively no violent crime. Yeah, almost none. So they're poor, but they don't kill anybody. And you know, these are the conversations people want to say, okay, well what's going on here? Clearly there is a pernicious cultural and you know, family destruction influence in some communities that, that makes the propensity for violence as a result of those cultural issues likelier. And instead of addressing it now, we have people saying, oh, well, it's, you know, let's talk about this as a self defense case. No serious person thinks this is a self defense case.
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Clay Travis
I think a large degree what you would see is that the overwhelming amount of violent crime is committed in fatherless households across racial groups. That is absence of men, absence of dads, leads young men to be far more likely to be violent. And I don't think that's coincidental. The other part of this is, and you hit on it, if this had been two black kids, exact same story, nobody would have heard about it because young black male violence against other young black males is so common that it virtually makes no news at all. And this is why, and I'm writing in this new book that I'm writing, Buck, it's been so unfortunate that we have demonized police because if you look at the data, there are, I believe that the data reflects this is true, thousands and thousands of young black men who are dead because police weren't able to do the jobs that they should have been able to do in those cities. So everybody who marched, blm, everybody who donated money, blm. All those people walking around raising their fists. The actual most prominent consequence of your rebellion, of your protest was thousands more young black men dead. And again, Buck, this wouldn't even be a story if this is two young Black kids, one stabs the other over a dispute about who should be sitting where. None of us would have heard about it because it happens so often.
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Buck Sexton
Turning to the numbers here again, just because I know that what the left has done for a long time is they say it's about poverty and lack of opportunity really. 24% of Asians in New York City are in poverty by New York City's own metrics and standards. 21% of the black community is in poverty. 90% of the prison in New York City, Rikers island is black and Latino. It's actually 90% plus I think some years like 92, 93%. The Asian percentage of Rikers island, despite 24% of them in poverty is less than 1%. So what's going on? This is just, you know, why are these situations playing out? The way you brought up family formation, you bring up culture, culture in school, culture in media, these are things that we should be able to talk about. But some people don't want to talk about them and instead they'd rather play this game of oh well, this was this national profile case now was a self defense case. And they say that knowing that it's really just meant to antagonize people and meant to say, you know, the whole system is corrupt and you know, it's, it's, it's like an OJ Verdict situation.
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Clay Travis
I bet if you overlapped buck, it would be a fascinating study. I don't know if anybody's done this in recent history. I bet if you overlapped rates of men at home for Asian communities versus black communities in New York City, I bet the average Asian community household, 90% dads at home. I bet the average black family in New York City, dads at home, 10%.
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Buck Sexton
15%, something percent, topic 20%, maybe 15%.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, but it would be, I bet, the biggest racial dynamic difference between Asian and black anywhere in the country. And I think if you override that, kids behavior, especially young men who we're talking about, remember women don't commit stab murders very often. I bet you would see dad in home decreases. The overall rate of violence on a level that is staggering, would actually be a really interesting conversation that we should have that a lot of people won't have because it forces us to have serious conversations about absence of men and what fatherlessness does to young men across the country. Uh, when I say you need to protect yourself, interestingly from a home intruder, a lot of people's gut reaction is that doesn't happen where I live. Maybe it's the case. But still, all it takes is one time. If you want to have pepper spray, if you want to have bars on your doors, if you want to just make your home safer than it otherwise would be, I encourage you to go check out Sabre. They have all sorts of products. We've got every single one of their products here in the Travis household. Whether it's bars that you put on your doors at night that make it very difficult to open those doors, whether it is pepper spray. My wife carries around pepper spray. A lot of the women probably in your life do as well. And if they don't, they should be. And also maybe you want, maybe you got a lot of guns, but maybe you would like to have a non lethal option because kids are coming in and out of your house at all hours. I know in the Travis household we got teenage boys, they are in and out of the house all the time. They make a lot of noise. Sometimes they set off the alarms because guys, go figure, they don't come in like you would expect them to. Maybe it's going to wake you up in the middle of the night. You want to be able to protect yourself, but you don't want to do it in a lethal manner because you know you got teenagers coming in at all hours. That's a perfect example of why you would want to check out the pepper spray launcher from Sabre right now. Dozens of products, all reduced price. In fact, if you go there right now, 15% off every single thing on the website. Saberradio.com that's S A B R E radio.com family owned business. You're going to love them. They'll make your family saf. Saberradio.com you can also call if you want to get your pins. Call the phone number. Talk to somebody directly. 844-824 safe. That's 844-824 safe. Two guys walk up to a mic, anything goes. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Nate Silver
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Clay Travis
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Nate Silver
I'm Nate Silver.
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Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. We're both journalists and professional poker players. And on our podcast Risky Business, we talk about risks in everything from poker to politics.
- [46:14]
Nate Silver
And we talk about betting. From betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. We've learned a lot about taking risks through our own research and sometimes even our own bets. And we share what we've learned with you.
- [46:25]
Maria Konnikova
Are you still doing sports betting? I had no idea that you'd wagered over a million dollars for your research.
- [46:31]
Nate Silver
I bet almost the entirety of the 2022, 23 NBA season, all the regular season and about half the playoffs. And I learned that, I mean, it's probably what I should have expected, but I learned that it's pretty hard. I went on a huge heater at the start of the NBA season where it was up like 70,000 bucks. I'm like, man, I'm really good at the sports betting stuff. But then, but then things change now.
- [46:52]
Maria Konnikova
That March Madness is upon us. We're talking bracket strategies and a whole lot more. Join us and listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [47:05]
Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got a quick turnaround here. I'll tell you where we're going. Third hour because we've got a lot happen. Stock market. Clay just informing me today is back into positive territory for the day. So you're talking wild swings going on here, but how bad can it be when it's already back in positive territory? Right? There's all the global meltdown. Everyone, like, what do they say in espanol? Tranquilo. Just, everyone's just gotta, everyone's just gotta chill out. It's all gonna be fine. Got a lot of talkbacks, a lot of calls we want to get to in the next our because I want to hear from all of you on this stuff. So we will rack and stack some of those. And then the trans athlete thing, Clay, it's. This is like the Clay and Riley Gaines employment act of 2025. Like you guys over at Outkick going to be very busy with this forever. Apparently. They're still going to do this thing where dudes don't have an don't have an advantage over women in sports. They're still going with this.
- [48:03]
Clay Travis
John Oliver did on HBO his entire show last night on men pretending to be women don't have competitive advantages in women's sports. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen that they truly have determined that they're going to light themselves on fire over this and not give up.
- [48:23]
Buck Sexton
And they also got rid of the gofundme for the guy who stabbed the kid, by the way.
- [48:28]
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- [48:58]
Nate Silver
Always talking about what's next? Well, I found it. It's called Formula E. Forget everything you think you know about racing. This isn't just cars going fast. It's like a supercomputer on wheels. The tech is insane. And the drivers, they're like chess grandmasters at 200 miles per hour. You've got to see it. Trust me, you'll be hooked. Follow Formula E live on Roku Next Race, Miami, April 12th.
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I'm Nate Silver.
- [49:29]
Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. On our podcast Risky Business, we talk everything from politics to poker and from.
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Nate Silver
Betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. Sports bettors need a bit more street smarts because there's this whole second side to sports betting of how do you actually. How do you get your money down Good if people think that you're a winning better. And now that March madness is upon us, we're talking bracket strategies, odds, how to maybe actually win your office for school. You can listen to rescue business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [50:01]
Buck Sexton
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one. Every time I hear about my dad.
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Clay Travis
Is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
- [50:13]
Buck Sexton
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known. At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer. Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the.
- [50:25]
Clay Travis
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.