Hour 2 - Rent Freeze Myths

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show - Hour 2: Rent Freeze Myths

Date: June 26, 2026
Guests: Ann Coulter
Main Theme:
This episode centers on the controversial rent freeze in New York City, connecting its economic consequences to larger political trends, the impact of immigration on elections and housing, and the ideological drift of major American cities. Clay is out on vacation, Buck Sexton hosts, joined by commentator and author Ann Coulter. Their conversation touches on recent Democratic primaries, immigration policy, economic theory, and the politics of rent control, mixing in signature humor and combative analysis.

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Episode Overview

Purpose:
To explore the myths and realities of New York City's rent freeze policy, its political motivators and economic fallout, how mass immigration shapes voter bases and housing demand, and the broader progressive policy landscape in cities like New York and California.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rent Freeze in NYC: Political Optics vs. Economic Reality

• [02:35] Buck Sexton opens the segment with Ann Coulter, highlighting the recent rent freeze passed in NYC. He argues it's celebrated by many but will ultimately backfire, raising rents for those not covered by it and worsening housing shortages.
  • "This guy just got a rent freeze passed in New York. It will only make things make rent go higher for everybody who’s not covered by the freeze. And everyone cheers for this." (Buck, [02:47])
• Ann Coulter links the policy to the results of the week's Democratic primaries: moderate incumbents defeated by far-left candidates she describes as "anti-America, pro-Hamas lunatics." She ties rent freeze support to demographic shifts, rooted in mass immigration.
  • "I think it’s at least 30% of people in rent who are affected by this rent freeze are foreign born in New York City." (Ann, [05:42])
• Historical analogy: Coulter compares cheering crowds for rent freezes to Venezuelans who voted for Hugo Chavez, warning New York risks the same fate.
  • “It looks exactly like all the red cap wearing Venezuelans who voted overwhelmingly for Hugo Chavez.” (Ann, [06:46])

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2. Immigration’s Role in Urban Politics, Housing, and Elections

• [05:10] Coulter critiques AIPAC for prioritizing the defeat of Rep. Thomas Massie rather than defending moderate pro-Israel Democrats, resulting in more “anti-Israel fanatics” in Congress.
• Immigration and identity:
  • "The younger generation, thanks to immigration, is massively, massively foreign-born or second-generation foreign-born. They come from failed countries." (Ann, [05:25])
  • "For foreigners to come here and vote against us and vote to bring in more Third Worlders. So as with everything, the solution is mass, mass deportations, denaturalizations." (Ann, [05:55])
• Judicial interventions: Discussing how immigration judges, whom she implies often aren't U.S.-born, have stymied previous attempts to end Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for certain groups, particularly Haitians ([08:00]).
• Exception for refugees of communism: Buck notes Cuban and Venezuelan immigrants, who fled socialism, now vote GOP in Florida—unlike other recent arrivals ([09:00]).

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3. The Economics and Intentions Behind Rent Control

• Rent control as “feel-good” policy: Buck and Ann describe rent control as a populist policy that ignores basic market economics. Even people who don’t benefit support it for “emotional” reasons.
  • “No matter what data you show people…they want it because it makes them feel good to want it.” (Buck, [09:55])
• Ann points out that leftist politicians in New York openly admit their goal is to drive landlords out and convert private housing to public projects.
  • "Their idea is to drive landlords out of business so they can turn it into public housing." (Ann, [10:20])
  • Describes NYC’s public housing: "It's basically Dante’s inner circle of hell. And that's what they're trying to do…turn all of New York City into Venezuela." (Ann, [10:43])

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4. California’s Wealth Tax and Policy “Chickens Coming Home to Roost”

• California’s 5% retroactive wealth tax on the ballot:
  • Buck wonders if Silicon Valley billionaires who supported Democratic policies now regret their consequences.
  • Ann explains the exodus of billionaires from California, highlighting the practical difficulties of changing state residency to avoid taxes ([12:23]).
  • “Talk about taxation without representation…they are gone.” (Ann, [12:35])
  • Mentions Google founder Sergey Brin dating a MAGA influencer as evidence of political shifts among some tech magnates ([13:55]).

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5. 2028 Presidential Speculation & Democrat Bench

• Who leads the Democrats?
  • Buck: Kamala or Gavin Newsom? Ann bets on Newsom despite California’s failures—because, she says, "Do you realize how stupid Democratic primary voters are?" ([15:04])
• Republican nomination hopes: Ann wishes for J.D. Vance as GOP nominee, with praise for Ron DeSantis as “an unbelievable leader” but a less effective debater than Newsom.
  • “JD is really good in a debate. Again, he’s really smart. And I’m just so happy whenever we have a smart Republican. They are rare.” (Ann, [16:35])
• Buck’s prediction: J.D. Vance for President, Rubio for VP ([38:00]).

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6. Immigration Policy Deep Dive

• Cuts from Tom Homan and Stephen Miller:
  • Tom Homan calls for more deportations, noting most asylum claims are fraudulent: "Nearly nine out of ten get orders for removal…they’re not escaping fear and persecution. They’re coming in for a job." ([27:00])
  • Miller argues most Haitian TPS claims have no legal basis; crime in Haiti no different than pockets of U.S. cities ([22:21]).
  • “[The asylum system] is just turned into a total scam.” (Buck, [22:42])
  • Analogy: letting asylum seekers stay permanently after a temporary crisis is like a neighbor never leaving after sheltering from a tornado ([29:59]).

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7. Economic Fundamentals & Housing Supply

• Impact of illegal immigration on housing: Buck calls out Democrats for ignoring supply and demand; millions more people increase housing demand and prices.
  • "Supply and demand is one of the most basic [laws]... Democrats can pretend they can suspend it, but they can't." ([33:10])
  • Notes bipartisan attempts at constructive housing policy versus “socialist feel-good” policy in NYC/California.
• Ultimate critique:
  • "It’s not about people having enough. It’s feeling like others have more than them. That is the key wedge Democrats want to exploit." (Buck, [34:28])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "[Rent freeze] will only make rent go higher for everybody who’s not covered by the freeze." — Buck Sexton ([02:47])
• "It looks exactly like all the red cap wearing Venezuelans who voted overwhelmingly for Hugo Chavez." — Ann Coulter ([06:46])
• "As with everything, the solution is mass, mass deportations, denaturalizations. We’re probably going to have to make Stephen Miller president." — Ann Coulter ([05:55])
• "Nearly nine out of ten [asylum seekers] get orders for removal... they’re not escaping fear and persecution... they’re coming in for a job." — Tom Homan via Buck ([27:00])
• "Their idea is to drive landlords out of business so they can turn it into public housing... basically Dante’s inner circle of hell." — Ann Coulter ([10:20])
• “JD is really good in a debate. He’s really smart. I’m just so happy whenever we have a smart Republican. They’re rare.” — Ann Coulter ([16:35])
• "It’s not about people having enough. It’s feeling like others have more than them." — Buck Sexton ([34:28])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:35] Start of discussion: NYC rent freeze, Democratic primaries
• [05:42] Immigration’s impact on rent freeze demographics
• [06:46] Venezuelan historical analogy
• [08:00] Immigration judges blocking TPS changes
• [10:20] Rent freeze driving landlords out; public housing as “hell”
• [12:23] California’s wealth tax and exodus of billionaires
• [15:04] Newsom as likely Democratic nominee
• [16:35] JD Vance and GOP hopes
• [22:21] Stephen Miller on Haitian TPS and asylum
• [27:00] Tom Homan: asylum system fraud
• [33:10] Economics of housing supply/demand
• [34:28] Critique of leftist policies on envy vs. need

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Listener Questions and Calls

• [36:10] Mike from Pittsburgh on Marco Rubio as possible GOP nominee; asks about term limits.
  • "You have to convince the people who don't want term limits... It's just not going to happen." (Buck, [38:07])
  • Discusses potential J.D. Vance/Rubio ticket ([38:00])

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Takeaways

• The episode provides a right-leaning, sardonic critique of progressive urban policy, particularly rent control, and its intersection with immigration, housing markets, and electoral outcomes.
• The hosts and Ann Coulter argue that rent freezes and similar interventions are political theater with damaging practical effects, enabled by demographic and ideological changes they attribute largely to mass immigration and leftist activism.
• Economic rationales, political strategy, and culture-war references are woven throughout, with recurring themes of elite hypocrisy and the perils of ignoring fundamental economic and civic principles.

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Transcript

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[Ann Coulter]

Why? I'm glad you asked. Yes, there is. I would tie that in directly to the three Democratic primaries this week in New York where two longtime Democratic incumbents, including the heir to the Levi Strauss fortune, Dan Goldman, Jewish, pro Israel, you had that Espliat and Jerry Nadler's seat, he was retiring. And in each one of these cases you had a, a standard Democrat whom you and I would completely hate running against a foaming at the mouth anti Israel, pro Hamas, anti American, pro Palestinian and I've noticed, lunatic. For one thing, I talked about this on my rumble video yesterday, 5pm for one thing, I'm still a little annoyed with AIPAC for spending 30 million to take out Thomas Massie. He opposes all foreign aid. It's not specific to Israel. And meanwhile he's pretty great on everything else. He's really smart. You've been around a while, Buck. It's so unusual and so wonderful to have a high IQ Republican. I've interviewed him a bunch of times on my sub sac just because he's so brilliant, including the things I disagree with. On $30 million to take him out. And meanwhile we now have three guaranteed barking at the moon anti Israel fanatics joining the Congress from New York. They'd spend AIPAC only spent a few hundred thousand defending these Democrats who were pro Israel and just, you know, they're perfectly happy to give those seats away. But I've noticed in the commentary on those seats and that you and I will connect it to rent control. A lot of people have been commenting. You know, the reason all these young people are so anti American is they're not American. The younger generation, thanks to immigration is massively, massively foreign born or second generation foreign born. They come from failed countries. I mean I've been noticing all day this the end of temporary protected status for Haitians and Syrians, although Haitians are the ones Democrats are really concerned about. You know, they were calling that racist on MSNBC today and it's racist because as Al Sharpton pointed out, all, all the countries that have temporary protected status because crises are going on in their own, all of them are non whites. So I'm thinking we should put two and two together if all the countries in crisis are non whites, you know, maybe the problem is Haitians. That's, that's why it's not a safe country. So what, how does moving the, the whole problem To Ohio. Help us. So as with everything else in America. Oh, and I tweeted this out today. You've probably commented on it. I think it's at least 30% of people in rent who are affected by this rent freeze are foreign, born in New York City.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Ann Coulter]

For foreigners to come here and vote against us and vote to bring in more Third Worlders. So as with everything, the solution is mass, mass deportations, denaturalizations. We're probably going to have to make Stephen Miller president.

[Buck Sexton]

So can we actually, I want to have you react to this. Guys, can you pull up that Tom Holman cut. Ann and I both are. I think we're in the Tom Holman fan club. I certainly am. I think you're a tie. You might be a longtime Tom Holman fan club guy. Here's what he says about this guy's. Play it. We had a record historic year with deportations, but now we got 10,000 more agents on board. Or it should be on board by the end of next month. Wait till next year,

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

He says.

[Buck Sexton]

10,000 more agents and just wait till next year. You believe it? Is this going to happen?

[Ann Coulter]

I. I hope so. When I was looking at these three elections in New York and looking at the rent freeze, I mean, I tweeted out today that the people who were cheering, it's all over New York one cheering and waving their signs, Freeze the rent. Freeze the rent. It. It looks exactly like all the red cap wearing Venezuelans who voted overwhelmingly for Hugo Chavez.

[Buck Sexton]

Chavez.

[Ann Coulter]

And then, oh, lo and behold, because they voted for Hugo Chavez to turn over golf courses here, the poor, you can live here free. Before you knew it, a country that's sitting on one of the largest reserves of oil in the world, the people were starving to death, so they have to flee here. And then they vote for the exact same policies. So I was thinking, man, Congress better be funding a lot of deportation agents and it's got to be pedal to the metal. You know this ruling from the Supreme Court yesterday on ending the temporary protected status for Haitians, I was looking at that today. Every district court to look at that. And there were about almost a dozen. Every district court judge told Trump he couldn't do it. He couldn't suspend temporary protected status. And I happened to notice, I've been noticing this about immigration judges, immigration rulings, immigration activists. Oh, my gosh. A lot of them were not born in America.

[Buck Sexton]

No, we talked, I'm sure. And your favorite judge, Sparkle Sukhnanan, has waited. Sparkle Suknan. You know, just, just like the founders intended born in Trinidad and Tobago and is now telling the federal government they can't use federal government data to determine that illegal. Illegal aliens shouldn't be on the voter rolls. So she's. She's really important in this process. But I do, you know, I live in South Florida now, so I just got to say this. What you're saying about all the foreigners who are coming here and what they want is, is generally true. There is the exception, though. And actually Venezuelans fall under this exception. So do Cubans, people who come here from countries wrecked by communism, oftentimes certainly in the case of Cuban Americans here. And actually in the most recent election in 2024, Venezuelan Americans, they hate that crap and they vote solidly Republican. So it's the people that come here from.

[Ann Coulter]

Very suspicious of that. I think we'll get the first generation. I mean, the Cubans that they went for Clinton. I know that was a while ago, but they don't vote like, like, like white American wasps.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, that. That may be. That may be true, but I'm just telling you, Venezuelans voted majority Republican venezuelan Americans in 2024. And I think it's because their country got so screwed up by the socialist policies that now, unfortunately, in New York, they're trying to. But I want to actually go back to. To the issue of rent control. I think this is. And people are like, why do we care so much? Because I view this as one of those things that it's a little bit like minimum wage, which is another one, by the way, where even people who are, oh, I'm so right wing, you go, yeah, but minimum wage, like, it doesn't even work the way it's supposed to work, they still want it. And I think that rent control is one of these things where no matter what data you show people, no matter what, there's this huge cohort in New York, certainly, who benefit from it. So we know why they. But even people who don't benefit from it, and they want it because it makes them feel good to want it.

[Ann Coulter]

Yes, yes. And it's even more frightening in the case of Mayor Zorhan Mandami, and that is, maybe you've already talked about this, but he has people working for him specifically in housing, and their idea is to drive landlords out of business so they can turn it into public housing. If you're not from New York, the only neighborhoods that will never, ever, ever be nice are those that have a public housing project.

[Buck Sexton]

We call them the projects. Yeah, projects.

[Ann Coulter]

They're run down. They're disgusting. I knew a guy who worked for the unions who cleaned them. He could tell the difference. Difference in the feces dropped by a male or female in the elevator. Banks of public housing. So it's basically Dante's inner circle of hell. And that's what they're trying to do because these landlords are showing up at the meeting saying, I can't pay taxes, I can't keep the water on, I can't run the heat, I can't repair anything. My costs are going up and you won't let me charge more. I'm going to have to walk away from this property. They're called, they're called ghosts. Ghost apartments, ghost buildings. They're popping up all over New York. And as far as Mom, Dummy and his team are concerned, that's fantastic because, wow, they can turn all of New York City into Venezuela.

[Buck Sexton]

It's. It's astonishing. And I want you weigh in also. You know, Gavin Newsom is getting in on the, on the. Because you all, you, at one point, I believe you lived in California a long time ago. You know California very well. They have a 5% wealth tax on the ballot for this fall. And you know, I have very mixed emotions about a lot of this. Like, this is a whole. Put me on the couch. Like, there's some stuff I want to talk about here. These billionaires who. Some of them, like Elon, I love him. He's done a lot for us and he's changing the world. He's doing good things. A lot of these Silicon Valley, especially these VC billionaires, have decided that they're pro Trump and Republican about five minutes ago. And I'm like, do you guys see what you've done here to California? They built this monstrous machine of Democrat collectivism and now it's eating them. And we're supposed to feel sorry for those guys. But on the other hand, I think it is disastrous. What do you think? Will it pass and what does this mean?

[Ann Coulter]

Well, it's led to you having much richer, fancier neighbors down there in Miami because a whole slew of billionaires, particularly in Silicon Valley or that field, this tax is retroactive to January 1st of this year. So if it passes, and it will pass without. I mean, talk about taxation without representation. They are gone. They, they. And, and boy, they want to make sure they're not residents. The rules are very, very strict. If you've. As anyone who tries to move out of New York will know, you have to leave your doctors behind, you have to leave your apartment, you have to Leave your house, you have to leave your clubs, you have to bring all of your valuables with you. Change bank account, where your kids go to school, you really have to pull out of, of California and a slew of them did before January 1st of this year to avoid that tax. One of the billionaires I remain sympathetic to because of his dating life and that is, I talked about this on Rumble a few weeks ago. It makes me so happy. Sergey Brin, one of the founders of Google, is dating a MAGA influencer and she's brought him, or he's brought her to, you know, dinner at the White House with Trump to mar a lago and he gave, I don't know, something like $50 million to get Steve Hilton elected. So. And she looks like a lovely, lovely girl. So thank you, MAGA influencer who's dating Sergey Brin.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, more pretty conservative girls. Dating these Silicon Valley billionaires could only be a good thing because unfortunately, you know, I think of the like the five richest women in the world or something right now, they're all the ex wives of these, of, of Steve Jobs, of, of Bezos, of, you know, one of the Google guys and they're left wing lunatics.

[Ann Coulter]

Huffington started it. Remember her? Ariana Huffington kind of started that trend.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. And she, of course the Huffington Post was somehow a site that kept getting sold even though it never actually money. Not a surprise. They get a lot of that stuff. Who's the right now? I did one last question for you and you can kind of take it however you want. Clay and I argue, not argue, but we go back and forth over whether it's Kamala or Gavin Newsom who's going to be there and we're going to be talking about this for real soon. I keep telling people we're going to be in the presidential election cycle in the blink of an eye here. As soon as next year starts, it's really underway, especially for the Democrat side. And who do you think is the leader of the Democrat Party right now?

[Ann Coulter]

I think the nominee, I mean, who knows, It's a long way away, so don't quote me on this, but I'm with you. I think it's Gavin Newsome and everyone says, especially people from California. Oh, he's right to. California's been such a disaster. Do you realize how stupid Democratic primary voters are? No, I totally think they will go for him.

[Buck Sexton]

This is what I have, by the way. I have people come up to me and they'll say like, I mean Buck, do you really believe that in New York, where you grew up, there's eight Democrats for every Republican. And I have to look in the eye and be like, I promise you, the answer is yes. It's like, they.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

They.

[Buck Sexton]

They are as crazy as I'm telling you, there are as many of them as I tell because, you know, if you. If you grow up in, like, a night, you grow up in, like. Like clay, like Franklin, Tennessee. It's like, oh, it's beautiful and it's safe and it's, you know, everyone's, you know, been in the country for 300 years and everything else. I was like, no, in New York. It really is. You said, like Dante's eighth circle of hell, at least politically. So, yeah, I try to tell people what it's like, and they're still shocked. Like, that can't be.

[Ann Coulter]

I just hope our side. And you'll get mail on this, because for some reason, people are dragging their feet on J.D. vance. I just hope our nominee is J.D. vance. I think Ron DeSantis, your governor, is. Is an unbelievable leader. I wish we could just appoint him President of the United States, but we can't. I don't think he was that good in the debate with Gavin Newsom. I mean, one on points, but Newsom is glib and charming. It's. He's much harder to beat than I think our side thinks. And JD Is really good in a debate. Again, he's really smart. And I'm just so happy whenever we have a smart Republican. They are rare.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, I think. I think Ron becomes either maybe Secretary of Defense or White House Chief of Staff for JD I mean, I think that would be the, you know, that would be a smart. A smart way for it to go. But anyway, we'll see Ann Coulter, guys, you got to go check her out. Every Thursday, 5pm on Rumble. She does her show live there. Unsafe on substack. Ms. Coulter, have a great weekend. Have a great two 50th and we will see you back here soon.

[Ann Coulter]

See you soon. Thanks, Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Ann Coulter]

I have to say, I absolutely love your impersonation of Bernie Sanders, Dr. Fauci. Oh, my gosh. It just. Oh, it just cracks me up and I absolutely love it.

[Buck Sexton]

Patty, I just want to say you have a great sense of humor. And unlike the billionaires out there who refuse. Refuse to tell the best jokes we hear on Clay and Buck. We keep it going for you. We keep it going for you. Thank you so much, Patty. I appreciate that. Even Clay, sometimes randomly off air, I'll just, like, do a quick impersonation of somebody, sometimes even someone else we know in media, which I won't do here because, you know, got to be respectful. He's like, wow, you're really good at that. Well, it's how I used to entertain some of my friends in high school. It's really what it comes down to. I used to do really good impersonations of some of the teachers, and I was always terrified the teachers would actually find out because they were so good that, you know what I mean, they weren't going to like them. So that's where it all started. Companies using new technology to improve our everyday life deserve a shout out. Viome is one of those companies. They've made a business of paying attention to your gut health. If your DNA is the blueprint, your RNA shows what's happening right now. That's where Viome comes in with their helpful insights. Viome is a simple at home gut health test that advances uses advanced RNA technology to analyze your gut microbiome and understand how your body really functions. From there, viome creates a personalized food and supplement plan designed specifically for for your body. Instead of guessing, you get guidance based on real data. And when people follow their plan, many report better digest, digestion, more energy and improved mood. Go to viome.com that's V as in victory iom.com viome.com or use and rather use code CB50 to get $50 off. Viome v I o m e.com use code CB50 for $50 off. So we've got the commies on the march. We will stop them though. We will defeat them. Not to worry. I'm gonna be in New York actually next week for a day or two. So I'll do a little up close and personal inspection of Kami Mumdani's New York. But something that Ann Ms. Coulter just brought up a moment ago about this taking the temporary protected status, removing it, taking it away from certain individuals, including Haiti. I thought this was a really interesting exchange this is with she mentioned Stephen Miller too and so got my mind jogging on this one. My memory jogging on this one. This is cut 7 right outside of the White House. Our friend Stephen Miller was asked, is Haiti a safe country? And this was his response. Consider Haiti a safe country for Haitians. Absolutely, yes. I mean, yes, Haitians live in Haiti. It's not our position that Haitians should leave Haiti. I mean it would be, it'd be crazy for us to say that Haitians

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

couldn't live in Haiti. Haiti is their country.

[Buck Sexton]

Of course Haitians should live in Haiti. The there's no viable asylum or use a technical term here, cat claim or withholding claim for any Haitian seeking relief from going back to Haiti to their homeland. The fact that there might be pockets of Haiti, but there's higher crime rates.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

Guess what?

[Buck Sexton]

There's pockets of Chicago with crime rates just as high.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

There's pockets of cities like St. Louis with crime just as high, pockets of Los Angeles crime just as high. It has never been the case that having communities that have high crime rates is a basis for asylum. Never has been, never will be. This is really important because the asylum system in this country is a, it's just turned into a total scam. And it would be like we had set up a, you know, if you live in a, if you live in a city and they set up a homeless shelter, let's say you said, look, we're going to take people who are down on their luck. But the homeless shelter was actually really nice. You know, it was really like everybody gets their. Oh, you mean kind of like what they did with illegals in New York with the four star hotels like that. Let's say the homeless shelter is actually a four star hotel that you have taxpayers putting the bill for. And then all of a sudden you have all these people who are saying, oh, I'm homeless too. Give me my free four star hotel. Are you really homeless or you just want to live for free in a four star hotel? That is what happened to our asylum system. It was, we're just going to help people because we are Americans. We're going to help fellow human beings who are facing genocide, who are facing the mass murder of their people, or the torture and execution because of their religion or political pressures, or there's been a horrific, you know, earthquake. There's been, by the way, Venezuela, I know, just had a terrible earthquake. Thoughts and prayers go out to the Venezuelans dealing with that. Or, you know, a massive tsunami that kills tens of thousands of people, has knocked out all power and all medical care in an area, will take in some people out of sheer kindness. We, the American people, get nothing out of this other than the kindness that we are able to give to fellow human beings that is, is not to our strategic benefit, economic benefit, anything else. But the American people overall are a decent, honorable, kind people. And so this is why we have this program. This is why we have asylum and refugees and these things. And that's important to remember because it has been completely exploited by millions and millions of people. And one of the ways they did this was just the Biden administration particularly did this whole thing where they said, well, if you're, if you have a credible fear of violence in your country, well, yeah, guess what? For example, a lot of Latin American countries have a lot of violence.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

Why?

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know, conversation. We can have another time. A lot of violence. Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, obviously for a long time. Colombia, though, Colombia just voted for a right wing president. So they're actually going to be okay. It's interesting, I can just say, I just know that. I know based on the decision the people of Columbia made that it's going to get safer and be better than it currently is or than it otherwise would have been if they had gone with a left wing lunatic. Gosh, I wish we could start placing bets on things like that. They got to start. They got to have these prediction markets set it up. So when a Democrat comes into office in a place like New York, can I bet on the rent increase? Can I bet on price of rent going up no matter what he does? Because I would. And I'd be right back to asylum, though. And what's gone on here, Stephen Miller saying, look, yeah, there's some violence in Haiti, but people can live there. And you know, at some level too, the Haitians have got to figure this out. The people of Haiti need to come together. Well, I sit here and speak to you. I've got a very good friend here in South Florida who is a Haitian American, very good friend of mine, and I talk to him about the mother country. Sometimes he's like, oh man, the place is such a mess. But there are people there who need to step up and fix it. They need to fix it. And America is here to assist in some ways, as we always do, again, out of kindness. There's also some strategic benefit to not having like a totally failed state within swimming distance of our own country. That does make sense. We do want that. But we've gotten sick, I think, of people taking advantage of us. Tom Homan here in Cut 6, he says, I said this to you yesterday. I said, what, 80, 90%? And that's exactly what the data shows. For the last 10 years, you've had millions of people coming into this country claiming asylum. Are any of them really asylum seekers? What are the numbers like? Listen to cut 6. What Sotomayor didn't tell the American people is if you look at the last 10 years of data, nearly nine out of 10 people who claim asylum end up with an order of removal because they don't qualify for asylum. They're not escaping fear and persecution from the homeland because of race, religion or political affiliation. They're coming in for a job. So nearly nine out of ten of these asylum seekers are fraudulent claims. Half of them don't show up in court, and 9 out of 10 get order removed. And while they're clogging up the court system, there are thousands of people in this world that really do need our protection, really are escaping fear and persecution. They're sitting in the backseat. That's what Sotomayor did not say under descent. That's what the American people need to understand. If you look at the number of people who transited Mexico, for example, to get here to claim asylum. That alone tells you this isn't about asylum because they could stay in Mexico and try to get asylum there. If you're from some other country and you say, oh, if I go back to my home country, I will be murdered, which would be a terrible thing. If that's true, of course, 90% of the people saying that at our border were lying, which is also a crime, by the way, to lie to federal immigration authorities about. But you know, that's never going to be.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

And

[Buck Sexton]

they don't stop to ask for safe harbor in the first safe country they're in. They want America. Why do they want America? Because we're rich and we give them a lot of stuff. That's why. Maybe some of them want to make it good here and do a lot of work and be really productive. Most of them want stuff. Most of them want free stuff. And so that is why they've come here by the millions. And the other side of this, of course, with whether it's Sotomayor, as he mentioned there, the other three justices came down to this decision. We say temporary protected status. And the word temporary is supposed to have meaning. This is very straightforward. It would be like if there's a tornado and you give your neighbor, you say, hey, I've got the. Some of you probably even have this right. You go, oh, the basement. You know, I've got the basement set up so you can come. Hey, you're out in that field. The tornado's coming. Come here. I'll give you safe harbor during the tornado. Humanitarian thing to do, Christian thing to do, the right thing to do. But imagine that person that you brought into your.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

Your.

[Buck Sexton]

Your basement to safely wait out that tornado. Tornado goes, oh, no, the birds are chirping. Sunny day. And that guy looks at you and goes, we got a lot of space here. I'm just gonna stay. You say, hold on a second. This was a temporary setup, buddy. I just didn't want you to get, you know, torn up by the 200 mile an hour tornado that just came through here, you know. Okay. No, I said, you got an extra bedroom. I saw it. Plush couch, very nice. I'm going to stay and you're going to give me free food, too, and you're going to pay for my medical care. That is the reality of Haitians who are still here on temporary protected status. They were here with the understanding it was just so that they could be safe for a limited period of time until they go back to their home country. That is the entire purpose of the policy. And Democrats still say no. In fact, here's Mamdani in New York City saying this is cut 8. He's talking about how we're going to do everything we can to stand with them in solidarity. Play 8. We saw today the Supreme Court make a decision that is putting so many people's lives in jeopardy. And I just came back from a rally with 1199 as I stood alongside a number of Haitian New Yorkers who are concerned about what this means for their status in our city. And frankly, this city, the one that we love, is one that has been built by so many from so many different parts of the world, and that includes our Haitian brothers and sisters, our Syrian brothers and sisters. And we stand here ready to be in solidarity with all of those who are concerned by today's decision. And beyond just language of solidarity, actions of solidarity, what does that mean? Believe it or not, Mamdani, federal immigration law does apply to New York because New York is still part of the United States, even if it doesn't look like it that much these days, federal law still applies. The federal government still has supremacy on the issue of immigration over state and local law enforcement, over state and local legislation. And here's. Here's what I got to tell you. I heard this before with Tom Holman. We played that cut. Next year better be the biggest year yet by far of deportations and removals from the United States, or the Trump administration is going to unfortunately be one that has failed a core promise of its second term. I'm not saying it has failed. I am saying it has to follow through on this. Tom Holman is saying we have 10,000 more agents and just wait and see. You know, it's something else that you definitely don't want to talk to your liberal friends about because they'll freak out. But it's true. We talk about housing prices, and that's more nationwide. I'm not just focused in on New York. I know some of you are sick of all the New York talk, but that's where Kami Mamdani is, and that's what's going on right now. Housing prices nationwide. You know what also affects supply and demand? Millions and millions of illegals weren't supposed to be in the country in the first place, many of whom pay cash to have far more people in a dwelling than they're supposed to in a certain municipality, which, of course, creates all kinds of additional problems. And that puts pressure on the housing market, too. Democrats can pretend that they can suspend the most basic laws of economics and supply and demand is one of the most basic. It probably is the sort of foundational law of economics, and they can't. But we can make changes here. We can do things that make it possible for people to build more houses more quickly. You know, there's actually some legislation that just came down on this I believe is bipartisan too, which I can talk to you a bit about. But there are constructive ways to deal with this. And then there are socialist feel good for some people. While they're completely counterproductive in reality ways to deal with this. 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[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

Hey, what's happening?

[Buck Sexton]

What's going on, man? Can you do a Pittsburgh accent for me? What does a Pittsburgh accent sound like?

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

I. I ain't much for talking about that. You know, hearing that, you know, Yin's guys need to come down and see. Come down to Manning Brothers and get a sandwich.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay. Yeah, that sounds about right. Good stuff. So what are your thoughts? Thank you for that. I'm just kind of trying to place the accent here. Like, someone did a Baltimore accent for me once who was really good at it. I was like, is that English? What language is that? Tell me, Mike, what's on your mind?

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

So, you know, going back to what you know about J.D. vance and, you know, running for president and stuff, and what Ann had said earlier, you know, I've been thinking about this a lot, and, you know, Margaret Rubio really, to me, seems like our guy, you know, and I'll say our guy, but, I mean, he's my guy. You know, in this climate with socialism and asylum and immigration, you know, who better to really talk on that, you know, to the American people as a president than someone? I mean, his story is just as, you know, impressive as JD as far as where he came from. And every time the guy talks, I mean, you want to talk about intelligence and quick. I mean, I'm just always so impressed by him. And I just wanted to comment on that. And, you know, and hey, real quick, on a side comment, can someone please let us know, as the American people, what we need to do to get Congress in the House to vote on term limits? Like, what do I got to do? Do I got to start a committee?

[Buck Sexton]

You have to convince the people. You have to commit. Thank you for calling in, Mike. To get term limits, you'd have to convince the people who know who don't want term limits, because that means they would have term limits to write in. Term limits.

[Caller or Guest (e.g., Mike or Tudor Dixon)]

That's the problem.

[Buck Sexton]

It's. It's not going to happen. I, I, I just. It's just not going to happen. But I, I appreciate the thought. And then as for Rubio, J.D. they're not going to run against each other guys. They're not going to do it. So you're asking me what I think happens? I think JD Runs top of ticket and I think Rubio runs as his vp and I think the, they're like a dynamic duo, a clay and buck of politics, if you will. And, and they do a great job. If they end up winning in 28, that's. I, I, they're not going to run against each other. I just don't, I don't think that's going to happen. They're too close. Their families are too close, and that's what I see. We'll talk to Peter Dixon coming up and much more. So stick around. Show is going to be awesome.