Hour 2 - Rep. Chip Roy

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 – Rep. Chip Roy

Date: August 26, 2025
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss the latest headlines surrounding crime in major U.S. cities, President Trump's policies to reduce crime—especially in Washington, D.C.—and broader questions about law enforcement effectiveness. The episode also features an interview with Congressman Chip Roy (TX), who discusses banning congressional stock trading, pilot age restrictions, his campaign for Texas Attorney General, and the intersection of politics and sports. Scattered throughout is the ongoing pop culture phenomenon of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift’s engagement, giving the conversation an energetic and contemporary flavor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Crime Reduction in Washington, D.C. and National Implications

• Trump’s Crackdown on D.C. Crime

  • Clay and Buck open the hour discussing President Trump’s efforts to decrease crime in D.C., presenting them as a potential national template.
  • They replay a dramatic exchange from a recent Trump cabinet meeting, where a young female reporter recalls being mugged and pistol-whipped in D.C.
  • The conversation highlights the trauma of urban crime and Trump’s responses to victims.
  • Notably, the hosts mention a homicide-free streak in D.C. (later corrected to 13 days), which they describe as unprecedented and as a sign of Trump’s effectiveness.

  “You had a gun pointed at your head, and you probably figured that he's going to pull the trigger, because these are animals that don't know what the hell they, they couldn't care less.”
  — Donald Trump, [03:39]

  • The segment underlines skepticism towards Democratic messaging on crime and frames Trump’s actions as both morally right and politically potent.

  “Don't take the bait on violent crime mattering to that many Americans.”
  — Buck Sexton paraphrasing DNC messaging, [09:09]

2. Critique of Democratic Attitudes Toward Crime

• Hosts play a segment of a Democratic National Committee (DNC) affiliate downplaying violent crime as an electoral issue, urging focus instead on “mental health and homelessness.”

• Clay and Buck argue that such messaging is out of touch with reality and victimizes ordinary Americans.

• Buck links this to a broader failure of Democratic leadership in “blue cities,” positioning Republican responses as both tough and effective.

  “Democrats are defending the status quo of unacceptable criminality in American cities. That's what they are doing.”
  — Clay Travis, [11:46]

3. Congressional Stock Trading Ban

• Interview with Congressman Chip Roy

  • Begins at [20:36]
  • Roy discusses bipartisan efforts to restrict congressional stock trading due to conflicts of interest.
  • He expresses optimism about new legislation that would force members to use broadly traded mutual funds and penalize violations.

  “Members of Congress were sitting here making serious decisions about key issues while they're also trading stocks directly impacted by it... I just think we ought to clean it up.”
  — Chip Roy, [21:13]

4. Raising the Pilot Retirement Age

• Roy details the “Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act,” which would raise the retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67 to address industry shortages.

• He cites union opposition as a major obstacle but emphasizes safety and international precedent for the change.

• The discussion becomes relatable and practical, highlighting everyday experiences with flight delays and crew shortages.

  “I think it's really important for us to have an adequate number of experienced pilots. And that's my biggest concern, is that we're going to be running through a bunch of people trying to fill up the jobs of pilots and that would endanger the American people by putting more inexperienced pilots in the cockpit.”
  — Chip Roy, [24:05]

• Listeners call in to question why age restrictions exist for pilots but not for aging members of Congress, leading to a brief civics/history lesson from Clay.

5. Chip Roy’s Campaign for Texas Attorney General

• Roy announces his campaign for Texas AG, focusing on:

  • Border security and law enforcement cooperation
  • Combating drug cartels, human trafficking, and “street-level thugs”
  • Resisting “radical progressive leftists” and Soros-backed DAs

  “If we don't secure Texas, we're going to lose America. That's the bottom line... It's time as someone who is a former federal prosecutor, as someone who is the former first assistant attorney general of Texas, to come back to Texas and stand up and stand side by side with our sheriffs, our constables, police officers, Department of Public Safety...”
  — Chip Roy, [26:32]

6. Football & Pop Culture Crossover

• The episode is interspersed with asides about the just-announced engagement of NFL star Travis Kelce and pop icon Taylor Swift, which Buck and Clay both mock as overblown but unavoidable news.

• Congressman Roy, a Texas sports fan, predicts victory for Texas over Ohio State in college football, adding local color and a relatable human touch.

  “I always bet on Arch.”
  — Clay Travis on Texas quarterback Arch Manning, [30:03]

7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Crime in D.C.:

  “Trump has just said, no longer. We're not going to stand for this.”
  — Buck Sexton, [09:31]

• On Political Courage:

  “Even the people that Trump is protecting, remember, almost none of them voted for him... But it’s just the right thing to do.”
  — Buck Sexton, [12:21]

• On Congressional Reform:

  “It's a bipartisan problem... I just think we ought to clean it up.”
  — Chip Roy, [21:28]

• On Pop Culture:

  “Caring about celebrities’ personal lives is a bigger waste of time than video games, which I actually like [...] I don’t get it.”
  — Clay Travis, [19:01]

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Timestamps: Key Segments

• Opening Discussion: DC Crime, Trump’s Cabinet [00:17–05:14]
• Reporter’s Mugging Story and Trump’s Response [02:34–08:12]
• DNC Downplays Crime, Hosts React [08:14–12:42]
• Statistical Milestones in D.C. Crime [12:42–13:43, correction at 17:22]
• Interview: Congressman Chip Roy (Stock Trading Ban) [20:36–22:35]
• Roy: Pilot Retirement Age, Listener Calls [22:35–25:45, 34:19–38:22]
• Roy: Texas AG Run & College Football [25:47–30:50]
• Hosts Wrap-Up and Listener Calls [33:46–39:11]

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Tone & Style

• The episode alternates between light-hearted, sarcastic takes (especially on pop culture stories) and impassioned, tough-minded commentary on politics and public safety.
• Host personalities are front and center: Clay as the pragmatic skeptic, Buck as the policy wonk, with both showing both humor and seriousness throughout.
• Congressman Chip Roy contributes a direct, no-nonsense Texan perspective.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is a fast-paced blend of political insight, current events analysis, and cultural asides. It underscores the hosts’ view that law and order is a top voter priority, while also spotlighting the inside baseball of congressional reform and pilot policy. With a grounding in real-world stories—from crime victims to overworked airline crews—and touches of football and celebrity, the conversation is both grounded and lively, leaving listeners informed and entertained.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox One for complete terms and conditions. Fox One we live for live stream streaming now. Welcome in everybody. It is the second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. We started off talking about the situation in Chicago and Trump trying to create a new paradigm of less crime in D.C. and then perhaps a template for other American cities as well. Trump has fired Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook. We didn't get into that yet. This is interesting, Clay, just because does the Federal Reserve exist outside of executive branch authority? If so, how? And then from, from where or whence does it derive said authority if it isn't within the executive branch's purview? This is interesting to see how that, how that goes, I think. And Clay, did you see also an update on the Cracker Barrel branding issue? Oh yeah, from Cracker Barrel, which we shall discuss in a little.

[Buck Sexton]

An all time own goal. But yes, let's dive into that in a little while.

[Clay Travis]

I do think that you and I with AI, not that either of us are particularly good artists, but you or I with AI, could have come up with a better logo rebrand in an hour than what this reran was. But put that aside for a second. We'll get to that in, in just a little bit. We just had President Trump a few moments ago having a cabinet meeting, his seventh cabinet meeting of his first administration. Well, I'm sorry, his second term, his first year of his second term. And this is interesting, there was an exchange. Now, it might be a little hard to hear the reporter for some of you out there, so we'll fill in a bit of it because this was an exchange of back and forth. You'll be able to hear Trump obviously, but the reporter. But I wanted to hear a reporter tells the story of how she was mugged in Washington, D.C. and wanted you to hear how this went. Play 33.

[Young Female Reporter]

So more than two years ago was a Saturday morning in broad daylight. I was on my way to work and a young man with a black ski mask pointed a gun at my face and threatened me to hand over my phone, my wallet, my laptop and everything else. And when I refused, he used the butt of his handgun to strike me across the face, the cheek, or what some people call a pistol, whipped Me before running away. That has deeply traumatized myself and my family ever since. I've never dared to walk in the street of D.C. at night, ever. And my family was extremely worried. So, Mr. President, thank, thank you so much for what you're doing right now.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you for being honest.

[Young Female Reporter]

Such incidents involve not just me, but also my family. If he had shot me, I could have died right there in the middle of nowhere without my families or my friends knowing. At the age of, back then, I think 20, 23.

[Donald Trump]

Right.

[Young Female Reporter]

Just starting my career here in D.C. without even starting a family. And now I'm very blessed to have this opportunity.

[Donald Trump]

So you had a gun pointed at your head, and you probably figured that he's going to pull the trigger, because these are animals that don't know what the hell they, they couldn't care less. They're pulling the trigger is a very minor event, and I'm sure he's done it before. So how did you, and you, and you did refuse to give it, which would probably, maybe somebody would say that was not the right decision. Right. But you refused. But I understand that.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

So.

[Donald Trump]

And then he hit you real hard.

[Young Female Reporter]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. Clay, this is, here's a reporter I saw on the exchange. She's, she looks to be a Asian American.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, She's a young, she's at the Epic Times, I believe some people may get that newspaper weekly, I believe that goes out many different places.

[Clay Travis]

Yes. So he's a young woman. She's not, not physically large, formidable person. She, first of all, she's a woman. And beyond that, you know, she's not a, somebody who would be in a particularly strong position to defend herself. Broad daylight, guy with a ski mask pulls a gun, says, I'm going to murder you if you don't give me your stuff. And then he pistol whips her in the face. People hear stories like this in dc, Clay, and you know what the response is? Oh, yeah. I know a few other people that, that's happened to. And remember, this is happening in the nice neighborhoods. Indeed. You know, she, she's talking. I, I could probably tell you, I'm just guessing she probably lived in, like, Adams Morgan or something. We're talking about in Northwest D.C. this stuff happens. We're not even getting into how often this stuff goes on in Southeast D.C. and, and here Trump actually continues on this exchange. So just wanted you to hear what's going on here. Here Trump continues with this. Oh, you want to jump in? Oh, sorry.

[Buck Sexton]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I, I, I'm much less Serious news. But I lost a major bet with my wife. So I was just texting her during the.

[Clay Travis]

Well, that's not as I thought. You lost a bet with me. And I was going to say hold the phone, stop the press. That's, that's always good news.

[Buck Sexton]

This is all very serious. But Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift just got engaged and I just got texted about it. So this is going to take over all the pop culture news.

[Clay Travis]

We're going to put a pin in that one. We're going to go back.

[Buck Sexton]

That's what I was doing. That was my face reacting to the news. Serious news.

[Clay Travis]

We can read. I can read his face usually and I know when he's, he's fired up and you make a point or whatever and he's an honest guy and he's telling you we're having a very serious, important discussion and he's fired up that he lost a bet over Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift. Honest man. We'll come back to that, Clay. We'll let you, we'll let you weigh in on that in a second. Let's get back here to this woman, this reporter pistol whipped in the face with the whole thing. So remember, there's also the trauma of these things that lingers with individuals, especially for a woman to be attacked like this, it be trauma for a guy too. But for a woman to be attacked like this broad daylight, guy has a ski mask on. And Trump and the reporter Continue the exchange play 34.

[Donald Trump]

It's really amazing that you weren't shot though, isn't it?

[Young Female Reporter]

I'm very blessed and that's why having this opportunity to stand here to share my story today, one I'm very grateful for God for allowing me to still survive to this day. But also to Mr. President, thank you for now making D.C. safe. Thank you very much for us, for our families, for my parents, on behalf of my parents and now my baby on the way.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you so much. And there are other reporters, journalists, good people and you don't have to say it, but that have also been attacked violently and not violently too pretty pretty badly. But. And I bet you see a big difference on the streets right now. And this is only 12 days, but people are telling me they're going out to dinner now. They haven't I told to serve my friend but I have a lot of friends that are going out to dinner all the time now in D.C. and they weren't, they weren't doing it 12 days ago. They would never even think one of my friends went out five times. It was four times the last time I told. Now it's five times. He said, I love going out to dinner. And restaurants are starting to open again. A lot of them closed because, you know, they weren't. Nobody wanted to go into a restaurant. Nobody wanted to get to a restaurant or even sit in the restaurant. But you see a big difference now, don't you?

[Young Female Reporter]

I do. I do pass by Union Station every day on my way home. And I do feel lasting for seeing the trucks right outside, seeing the National Guard troops members right outside. It does make me feel like I'm hopeful about these and one day, hopefully we can raise our family here.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you very much.

[Buck Sexton]

I think this is fantastic and there's going to be a lot of criticism because we've got a cut and I want to play it. This is cut 10. A woman at the DNC yesterday saying, ho hum. There's not actually crimes like this because this is now where Democrats are relegated. Cut 10.

[DNC Woman / Advertiser]

Where does Trump go? Migrant crime, carjackings, the really lurid, awful stuff. That is a crazy, crazy visual. Don't take the bait because most Americans are more worried about how are we going to address mental health issues, the visible homelessness that we see on streets and how do we deal with mental health and other issues that drive the sort of random incidents that scare all of us. That's what you should be talking about. That's where you should be focused. Don't take the bait in talking about migrant crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't matter to that many Americans.

[Buck Sexton]

Don't take the bait on violent crime mattering to that many Americans. And I do think again, this woman's story is echoed by almost everybody that is listening to us in the country. Somewhere in a city, somewhere in your state, innocent people are being victimized by crime. And Trump has just said, no longer. We're not going to stand for this. And Buck. 12 days since a murder happened in Washington, D.C. at some point there will be a murder. But when I see 12 days based on the history of Washington, D.C. in the summer over decades, at some point you have to start to say, hey, maybe this is not a total statistical anomaly. Maybe Trump really is starting to drive down violent crime in Washington, D.C. and this is why it's ultimately scary to Democrats, because if Trump can do this, Trump shut down the border. Remember, the whole story that we heard for years was Congress has to act in order for there to be border security. Trump showed up and shut down the border security. And I think what's happening now with D.C. violent crime is. Democrats are becoming terrified. Chicago, we started off Baltimore, Memphis, Kansas City, New Orleans, whatever city you want to point to, with a huge violent crime rate. It's a failure of will, it's a failure of caring enough to actually drive down crime. We can do it.

[Clay Travis]

If you look at what most of the homicides are in a place like Washington D.C. they are not, you know, it's not like people are having a random property dispute and they both pull out guns or something. It's overwhelmingly drug, gang related and theft, slash armed robbery, crime related. Right. I mean, this is, people are being shot because someone's trying to take something from them, or people are being shot and, or shooting at each other because they want to be able to sell drugs in a certain area without, without competition. I mean, that's, this is what drives most of the homicides in a place like Washington, D.C. in a lot of places across the country, those things can be made more difficult if there are more law enforcement officers on the streets and if they are told that arrests will be turned over to prosecutors who will do something with those arrests. That's a huge component of this. Remember law and order. Dun dun, you know, it's about the police who investigate crimes and the prosecutors who bring them. To bring the offenders to justice in a court, it has to be a one, two punch. But Clay, of course you can address these things. You make it harder for somebody to get away with going and doing a drive by shooting on a rival's turf. You make it harder for somebody to think, I'm going to put on a ski mask as was done to this young female reporter, and in broad daylight pull out a gun and smack you in the face with it and think that I'm going to get away. This is really straightforward stuff. And I like that Trump is doing this for the reasons we've all discussed about saving lives and helping people and making the streets better. But also he just don't let Democrats squirm out on this one. Don't let them get away with what they're doing here, which is they are defending the status quo of unacceptable criminality in American cities. That's what they are doing.

[Buck Sexton]

And again, 12 days without a murder, are they going to be in a position where they're actually now rooting for murders to occur? This is why the Trump move is so brilliant, both politically and also morally right. Sometimes, thankfully, these things overlap where you can do the right thing politically, hey, we should have less crime. That's something Republicans should be behind and also morally, because even the people that Trump is protecting, remember, almost none of them voted for him. D.C. was a, what, 955 voting for Democrats? It's taken a Republican president to be willing to say, I'm gonna make you safer. And it's not necessarily politically beneficial in Washington, D.C. for Trump. These are people that are not Republican voters. Same thing Chicago, Same thing in all these different blue cities. But it's just the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do, and it's something Democrats should have done, are unwilling. And Trump looked at it and said, I'm gonna fix this. God bless him for it.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Congressman Chip Roy]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Angry bitter buck rearing its ugly head as he is opposed to happiness. True romance. I In the midst of our discussion about the plummeting D.C. homicide rate, we can talk about. Well, we've got Chip Roy coming up at the bottom of the hour, so I'm sure we will get into this a bit more. First, a correction in the ultimate you knew it was going to happen. 13 days. A homicide has happened in D.C. so almost two weeks in the summer, which is frankly unprecedented. But about an hour ago, news broke in Washington D.C. that they had had another homicide. So that has happened. I want to update you because as part of our discussion about D.C. crime rates, I was saying it had been 12 days. It had actually been 13 days since there had been a homicide and it just happened since we started the show today. That news broke second and again, we're going to talk with Chip Roy down in Texas about his AG campaign. The news also broke on Instagram and it is on track to be the most liked Instagram post of all time. Travis Kelsey, NFL tight end, future hall of famer there, and Taylor Swift are officially engaged. And as I said, I lost. I was wrong on this. I said this relationship would never last. And Buck, grumpy, Buck is very angry. The truth of the matter is this is going to be news that you cannot escape. It is going to take over everything. And you just said, what did you just tell me? It's already on the top of all your newspaper sources, even everywhere.

[Clay Travis]

Biggest, biggest news story in the country. The President's talking about ending the war in Ukraine and hundreds of billions in new manufacturing and winning the AI race against China. But put all that aside, everybody, because Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift are engaged. Caring about, I'm just going to say it right now, caring about celebrities personal lives is a bigger waste of time than video games, which I actually like a bigger. I, I, I, I, I don't get it. I don't get it. Call me grumpy, call me grumpy, I don't care. But also call me forward leaning and forward thinking. When it comes to gold, my friends, I prepare for the future and that's what gold allows you to do because the markets can change in a heartbeat. And as we know, inflation is going to continue to happen because we've got a 37 and trillion. $37 trillion and counting. Dead. So what can you do? I think gold makes a whole heck of a lot of sense. In fact, I'm gonna be buying more gold in the months ahead. I already added to my gold holdings this year with Birch Gold Group. Birch Gold Group makes owning physical gold very easy. I've got gold bars and gold coins in my safe. Thanks to Birch Gold Group. You can also convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA with physical gold. Gold's up 40% over last year, my friends. You should get some gold. Text 90, text Buck to 98. 98 98. Text Buck to 98. 9898 for birch gold. All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We're joined by Congressman Chip Roy of Texas. Congressman, appreciate you being with us, sir.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Great to be on, fellows. Hope you're doing well. As college football just starts to heat up, it's good time and well there's.

[Clay Travis]

And there's the very Exciting news that Clay is going to get your take on at some point, I'm sure. Speaking of football, of Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift's engagement. Congressman. So we got that going on, but we'll get to that in just a few minutes maybe. In the meantime, talk to me about the Congressional stock trading ban. Let's, let's see where does that actually stand? Because I see this, lots of talk about it and it doesn't seem to be clear what are the rules and what should the rules be?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Well, existing. Yeah, thanks for that question. It's something that's been important to me for a long time. When I got to Congress, I introduced legislation in 2020 to address this issue because it just did not make sense to me. The members of Congress were sitting here making serious decisions about key issues while they're also trading stocks directly impacted by it. Right. Whether you're talking about breaking up big tech companies, you're talking about health care monopolies, you're talking about defense contractors, I feel like that ought to be separated. So you know, current law you've got to have disclosure, but you're allowed to do whatever you want to do. And in that disclosure, obviously there's a lot of trades. And by the way, this is a bipartisan problem. Obviously Nancy Pelosi gets a lot of the headlines because of her prolific trading. But a lot of Democrats and Republicans both do it and I just think we ought to clean it up. I've got legislation that would do it, but we're now working currently through this August on a bipartisan bill that would bring together a number of different approaches, including what the Senate passed out a committee right before August break and try to bring those together and look forward to a pretty big I think news announcement when we get back up in D.C. next week with a good group of Dems and Republicans with a bill that would restrict stock trading and require there to be penalties. If you're engaging in that and you need to be in broadly traded mutual funds instead of independent stocks.

[Clay Travis]

The Congressman actually, since I got you on this one and you're talking about what's gonna happen, you come back something else that I think is really important for any of us who have wondered why is it we have to wait hours at the gate at the airport because the crew is not there and sometimes cuz there's no pilot there, I think this could really help a whole lot. You're a sponsor of the Let Experience Pilots Fly Act. I know you introduced the original version a few years ago. Senator Lindsey Graham Has a Senate companion bill. So they're trying to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67 because of pilot shortages. These pilots, these are some of the most experienced pilots. My father in law is a super experienced pilot who's coming up to that, that period of his career. And so many of these great pilots want to stay on board. This is sort of able to be done. It's even bipartisan. How can this get out of committee and actually get done so that we have some of our most experienced pilots training the next generation of pilots and more pilots who don't wait at airports for hours because we have shortages?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Yeah, this is certainly something I've tried to elevate with, you know, Secretary Duffy and his team. We've just got to basically beat back the lobby, the lobby that opposes it, which, as you might, you know, understand, is a powerful union lobby that would say, well, they've got more bargaining power and more leverage. They've got, you know, tighter numbers there and I think we ought to increase that age. I mean, look, this is in line with a lot of international standards. For example, the Japanese pilots and others. I mean, it's not unusual. And importantly, we're now getting to the place where we have greater and longer lifespans and the notion that someone who's 67 is any worse off necessarily than, you know, a 50 year old who could, you know, drop dead from a heart attack or something. You have two pilots, you have safety mechanisms to deal with this sort of thing. I think it's really important for us to have an adequate number of experienced pilots. And that's my biggest concern, is that we're going to be running through a bunch of people trying to fill up the jobs of pilots and that would endanger the American people by putting more inexperienced pilots in the cockpit. So let's, let's relieve that pressure valve a little bit by increasing that age and allowing more experienced pilots to fly.

[Clay Travis]

How does that happen? Like, how do we get this? You said beat back the unions, so who is this? Just members of the Senate who want to keep getting that union cash or something. How do we get this into committee and get it through?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Well, we've got to move it through the transportation committee and we've got to make sure that enough people know that this is a legitimate issue and that there's no reason to block it and we're getting some traction and some ground on that. My colleague Troy Nels in Texas led the bill in committee. It was my bill to start with, but I Handed it off to him because he's on the Transportation Committee and you know, that's the easiest way to try to move things. So we're trying to work it through the committee this time. The speaker is aware of it. I think it's just something that we need to elevate. Look at the American people are tired of waiting in lines and tired of our concerns about inexperienced pilots. Just got to let your members of Congress know that this is an important issue and it's an easy solution.

[Clay Travis]

Absolutely. Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

All right. You have announced that you are running for attorney General of Texas. The we talked about this a little bit earlier. The primary in Texas happens very soon. Relatively speaking. It's March. You are a monster football fan. Texas got a huge game coming up against Ohio State. I'll let you talk about that. But I would imagine one of the challenges of campaigning for an early primary is so many Texans out there with high school, college and NFL football about to take off. A lot of people's entire attention just goes into the football world and not necessarily to the battle for the primary. So why do you want to be Texas aggressive and what's going to happen this weekend in the biggest game between Texas and Ohio State?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Well, dress the AG first because then we maybe have a little more fun talking about football in the back end. But you know, I appreciate your all show being a good balance of sports and politics. It's good for our world. But look, I want to be AG for a simple reason and that is how are we going to secure Texas? Because if we don't secure Texas, we're going to lose America. That's the bottom line. I will have served four terms, eight years in Congress. I've done what I think I can do so far up there to try to change things. I'm very proud of the record of trying to fight spending and stand with the border security individuals and law enforcement officials that are trying to secure our border. Stand with the Trump administration to deliver on the big beautiful bill, but make it better, actually deliver on spending restraint, all of the things that I've been able to do, fighting stock trading, fight for healthcare freedom, a lot of things that I feel very good about. But it's time as someone who is a former federal prosecutor, as someone who is the former first assistant attorney general of Texas, to come back to Texas and stand up and stand side by side with our sheriffs, our constables, police officers, Department of Public safety, people I saw in action during the Kerrville floods, which I proudly represent. But we just dealt with that big tragedy this summer. And I was working with law enforcement and it just reminded me how important it is. And I can assure you Texas will have no better advocate, no better partner. As Chip Roy in the Office of the Attorney General. Combating drug cartels, combating human traffickers, going after street level thugs. The Office of the Attorney General has one of the biggest law firms in the state. It's the most important Attorney General's office in the country. And you gotta have somebody ready on day one. Like I said, I've been there. I've been a prosecutor, I've been in AG's office. And at the end of the day, you gotta have somebody who's unafraid to fight and unafraid to win. And I've been doing that. And look, we're under assault by radical progressive leftists, you know, George soros of funding DAs in Texas. Guys, I mean, like people don't realize how bad it is in our blue cities in Texas because of what George Soros and the radical leftists are doing. And we gotta change that. We gotta back the blue, we gotta secure our streets. They don't realize how bad it is, the pressure at our border with the cartels notwithstanding. Trump, because he's doing the right job. But when you get another bad president like Biden, Texas has got to be even more prepared to hold that line. Hold the line against Chinese Communists buying up our lands. Hold the line against faceless bureaucrats and corporations buying up our small businesses and making our health care more expensive. That's what the AG's office has a lot of power to do. And so I'd be ready to rumble on day one.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, well, sorry to cut you off, but you. I can't believe. I would be stunned if he picked Ohio State given that he's running for office in the state of Texas. But, but it is the biggest game of the weekend. 10 million plus people are going to be watching. Much of Texas, for sure, much of Ohio. What happens this weekend between Texas and Ohio State?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Well, look, obviously a lot is going to be riding on the arm of Arch Manning. I think Texas defense is in a good position to be able to hold the line and be able to give him a little bit of room to deliver. I still like Texas in this. I know we're having to go up to Ohio State. I know that it's, you know, a big game and the entire eyes of the nation, so to speak, are going to be looking at Texas here to see what they can do. But I like our, I like Our chances to get up there. And look, I think Arch has proved himself formidable and, and look, it's gonna be a big game. Everybody's gonna be watching it but Texas defense. Texas defense holds the line. It holds Ohio State. Arch will deliver. That's my basic summary.

[Clay Travis]

I always bet on Arch.

[Buck Sexton]

That's a great take, by the way. I'm also on Texas.

[Clay Travis]

I'm just saying, I. Yeah, Texas. And Arch is doing a great job.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Well, look, I mean, you know, hook them. It goes without saying. And you know, as a graduate of Texas Law School, I was going to pick Texas no matter what, but I actually believe what I just said. The spread's very close. I mean, look, it's. It's close to a toss up. I know that the odds makers are giving a little edge to Ohio State and probably a home field advantage, but I like Texas. I like our energy. I like where we are. I like what Sarkeesians philosophy is. I like what I'm seeing out of the entire university. And even though my Aggie wife might have to hold her nose more watching the game over the weekend and my Red Raider father as well, we'll all be pulling for the state of Texas this weekend.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, well, good luck on the campaign. We know it's going to be a crazy fall for you as you get ready for that, I guess late winter, technically primary season. And good luck to the Longhorns this weekend. I know we probably just alienated. I know. Oh, I'm going to get deluge from Ohio because I think we're number one in Cincinnati, Columbus and. And also Cleveland at different times of the year. So we're going to get lit up here. But Congressman, we appreciate you. Good luck in the ag campaign.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Hey, God bless you guys. Take care.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Joe writes in you realize the Travis Kelce Taylor Swift news is a real gut punch to poor James Comey. I think he was convinced he had a chance with her, but now. Poor little feller. And let's see what do we got the absolute latest here. Do we still have Jeff in Illinois lined up here? Let's go to EE podcast listener KC who's asking a question based on what we just discussed with Chip Roy. Fire away.

[Clay Travis]

I just heard the craziest thing about pilots.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

I did not realize that there was.

[Clay Travis]

An age restriction on pilots at 65. How is it then that we're allowing Representatives and Senators to be in their.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Late 80s and 90s? If we can put a restriction on.

[Clay Travis]

Pilots, we can put a restriction on people's age serving in Congress.

[Buck Sexton]

Well look, this is actually a big point of debate. You have to be 35 years old to be a president. You have to be 30, I believe, to serve in the Senate. And is it 26 to be a member of the House of Representatives. I think that is accurate. One of the great debates that's out there is how much different would things be if we had an upper level age limit as opposed to a lower level age limit. And I think the reality is the framers of the Constitution were very focused on the idea of people who were in positions of power just handing the baton to their younger sons as kings do, and they did not want to enable that, which is why we have age limits. And on the lower end, they probably didn't think that it was going to be very common to have elected a president who were Joe Biden's age. And what I would say in general on this buck is as it pertains to the, to the pilot issue, I think we should have reasonable positions that people test for regularly. When you're doing things like flying planes, and if you have the cognitive ability to do it, you should be able to continue to do it. That seems very rational to me. And indeed, elections, by and large are in many ways cognitive tests. You may not agree with Trump, but the idea that he didn't have the cognition to be president of the United States is, is, is utterly absurd.

[Clay Travis]

There's also a huge difference. Being a commercial airline pilot and being a, you know, a fighter pilot who has to deal with G force and, you know, being a commercial airline pilot, the most important things that you're going to bring to bear are your experience and the skill set of understanding what's going on in that plane. And that's, again, these things are obviously very closely related. You know, it's not a, you know, you're not a Formula one race car driver. Right. I mean, you're, you're somebody who, your knowledge is if you have a sharp mind and you have a lot of experience. You know, the basic way to put this is do you want somebody flying your plane who's been flying for one of the, one of the airlines and maybe has previous military aviation experience over the course of a 40 year career at the controls, or do you want somebody who was just rushed through under, let's be honest, some DEI hiring that was occurring under Biden in the last few years who may not understand as well what's going on in that plane? Yeah, I think it's pretty straightforward. And the other thing too is you want to wait at the gate or not? I mean, the clay. I think there are a few things that drive me more insane than when.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

And I'm going to.

[Clay Travis]

Got a lot of flying coming up. You got a lot of flying coming up in the fall, I'm going to be all over the place, crisscrossing the country and beyond. When you're there and you're like, it's a beautiful day. There's no weather anywhere. There's no problem anywhere. We have a plane sitting here. Why can't we go? Oh, because the crew for the plane isn't here. Because they're overstretched, because the airlines don't have enough pilots.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. It's a huge issue. And in general, I would say we need more highly skilled pilots wherever we can get them to make sure that all of us are as safe as we can possibly be. And we have got a lot of.

[Clay Travis]

Keep in mind that the raising the age, I suppose they raising the age. I'm not saying raise it to 90, raising it to 67, which from 65, which would just mean that you're keeping more seasoned senior pilots online to help with this transition period when we have a shortage.

[Buck Sexton]

We're coming back to the top of the next hour. More discussion on crime. More cuts from Trump inside of his cabinet meeting that he's just been taking place, has been taking place today during the course of the show. We'll give you more cuts from that. We will also dive in to the Taylor Swift news. Getting engaged with Travis Kelce, that's going to just drive Buck utterly bonkers. As many of you out there are pouring in with thoughts. I have heartfelt thoughts on this from.

[Clay Travis]

Buck on all of this.

[Buck Sexton]

Ba humbug, dominate.

[Clay Travis]

I hope they stay married. I hope they have a nice family and all that stuff. But I don't get the fascination, honestly.

[Buck Sexton]

Also, Melania Trump, should she be on the COVID of Vanity Fair? This is actually a fun story. All that more next.

[Clay Travis]

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