Summary of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show"
Episode: Hour 2 - Russia Hoax Charges
Release Date: July 29, 2025
In the second hour of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," hosted by iHeartPodcasts, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton engage in a deep dive into the controversial topic of the alleged Russia collusion hoax. Joined by Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist, the discussion centers around recent revelations that challenge the established narrative of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
1. Introduction
The hour begins with a brief introduction of Sean Davis, highlighting his role at The Federalist and setting the stage for an in-depth conversation about the Russia collusion narrative and its implications.
2. Overview of Russia Collusion Hoax Allegations
Sean Davis initiates the discussion by referencing his recent conversations with Tulsi Gabbard in Washington, D.C., about the so-called "deep state mess" within agencies like the CIA. He emphasizes that both he and Molly Hemingway from The Federalist have been scrutinizing these allegations for over a decade.
Sean Davis [01:36]:
"The rest of the media, obviously they were in on the collusion, right? I mean, they were in on the whole hoax, the fraud."
3. Recent Developments and Document Releases
Clay Travis elaborates on the historical context of the Russia collusion narrative, identifying two main pillars: the assertion that Donald Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election and that Russia's interference was intended to aid Trump's victory. He references the Steele dossier and the Mueller investigation, labeling them as baseless.
Recently, document releases from Tulsi Gabbard have purportedly revealed that intelligence agencies, including the CIA, were aware that the claims about Russian interference were unfounded. Clay accuses former Obama administration officials, such as John Brennan and James Comey, of ignoring expert advice and perpetuating false intelligence.
Clay Travis [02:31]:
"The CIA knew it was a lie. Obama and Brennan and Comey were all told it was a lie from their own experts and they went ahead with it anyway. They cooked the books, they fabricated evidence, they ignored the experts, and they put out this bogus intel community assessment."
4. Calls for Accountability and Legal Action
The conversation shifts to potential repercussions for those allegedly responsible for propagating the false narrative. Clay Travis expresses a desire for legal accountability, specifically targeting high-profile figures like Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, and Strzok.
Clay Travis [04:57]:
"If I could wave a magic wand, I'd make two things happen. Number one, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, and Strzok would all go to prison because somebody has to pay a price for the crimes they perpetrated against the country."
He also stresses the importance of institutional reforms to prevent such abuses of power in the future, referencing a declassified HPSI report that offers recommendations on restructuring the intelligence community to safeguard against political corruption.
5. Presidential Immunity and Obama’s Involvement
Sean Davis brings up the involvement of former President Barack Obama and top intelligence officials, questioning the likelihood of holding them accountable given the complexities of presidential immunity.
Sean Davis [07:51]:
"Obama and his top people in the IC colluded to essentially hobble the Trump administration."
Clay discusses the challenges of prosecuting a former president, suggesting that it might be more feasible to hold individual intelligence officials accountable rather than Obama himself.
Clay Travis [08:38]:
"Might it be better to look at what Brennan and Comey and Clapper did and say, you know what, they actually defrauded Obama."
6. Discussion on Intelligence Community’s Future and Reforms
The dialogue explores the current state and future of the intelligence community in light of these revelations. Clay praises current efforts by DNI Ratcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard for pushing for transparency and accountability.
Clay Travis [06:56]:
"I would like to know all of the people who touched the lies, who signed the affidavits for the FISA warrants. We need complete and total transparency."
Sean Davis adds that while internal disagreements within intelligence agencies are common due to the nature of intelligence analysis, systemic cultural changes are necessary to prevent future misconduct.
Sean Davis [23:21]:
"There's this sort of public retribution against their reputations, Brandon Clapper and others. But you have to change the culture of these places. And that's a long term, that's a long term thing."
7. Listener Q&A
The show transitions to a listener Q&A segment, where callers pose questions about legal strategies and the feasibility of holding officials accountable.
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Charles from Northampton, PA inquires about the possibility of civil lawsuits against involved individuals for slander, libel, and other damages.
Clay Travis [25:30]:
"Maybe recovery of expenses for court costs, maybe slander, libel, loss of wages, emotional distress, punitive damages towards Obama and the Clintons and Comey Clapper Brennan."
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Tim from North Indiana asks about the applicability of RICO statutes to the alleged conspiracy.
Sean Davis [28:10]:
"Using RICO, I think is a really good idea."
Clay and Sean discuss the practical challenges of such legal actions, including high legal thresholds like proving intent and the difficulties in securing convictions against high-profile figures.
8. Conclusion
The hour concludes with reflections on the broader implications of the Russia hoax allegations. Both hosts express skepticism about achieving substantial legal accountability for the involved individuals but emphasize the importance of transparency and continued scrutiny.
Clay Travis [09:43]:
"Why is Congress in their oversight committee not doing the exact same things to the left? Why is DOJ not doing the exact same things to the left that they did to our side for eight years?"
Sean Davis [32:36]:
"None of them are going to prison. Ok? This is, I'm just, none of them are going to prison and I don't even think they're going to get charged."
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
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Sean Davis [01:36]:
"The rest of the media, obviously they were in on the collusion, right? I mean, they were in on the whole hoax, the fraud."
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Clay Travis [02:31]:
"The CIA knew it was a lie. Obama and Brennan and Comey were all told it was a lie from their own experts and they went ahead with it anyway."
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Clay Travis [04:57]:
"Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, and Strzok would all go to prison because somebody has to pay a price for the crimes they perpetrated against the country."
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Sean Davis [07:51]:
"Obama and his top people in the IC colluded to essentially hobble the Trump administration."
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Clay Travis [09:43]:
"Why is DOJ not doing the exact same things to the left that they did to our side for eight years?"
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Sean Davis [32:36]:
"None of them are going to prison. Ok? This is, I'm just, none of them are going to prison and I don't even think they're going to get charged."
Key Takeaways
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Allegations of a Russia Collusion Hoax: The discussion centers on claims that the narrative of Russian interference to aid Donald Trump's 2016 campaign was fabricated, with high-level officials knowingly promoting false intelligence.
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Demand for Accountability: Both hosts express a strong desire to see individuals like Comey, Brennan, and Clapper face legal repercussions for their alleged roles in perpetuating the hoax.
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Presidential Immunity Challenges: The conversation delves into the complexities of holding a former president accountable, suggesting that prosecuting subordinates might be more feasible.
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Intelligence Community Reforms: There is consensus on the need for significant reforms within the intelligence community to prevent future abuses of power and ensure transparency.
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Skepticism About Legal Outcomes: Despite the serious allegations, both hosts remain skeptical about the likelihood of any charges being filed or convictions being secured against the implicated individuals.
This episode provides a critical examination of the Russia collusion narrative, fueled by recent document releases and ongoing investigations. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, alongside Sean Davis, present a perspective that challenges mainstream narratives, advocating for transparency and accountability within the highest levels of government and intelligence agencies.
