Hour 2 - Saving America's Youth

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 – Saving America's Youth
Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Clay Travis (with Buck Sexton out)

Overview

This episode, broadcast just before Memorial Day weekend, centers on the importance of teaching American history to young people, the impact of pop culture on historical awareness, and current news—most notably Tulsi Gabbard’s resignation as Director of National Intelligence due to her husband’s illness. Guest Chip Roy (Texas Attorney General candidate) brings insight into history, personal resilience, and Texas politics. The episode is driven by a mix of serious debate and humor, capturing the show's signature tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Memorial Day, American Identity & History Education

• Clay Travis opens (02:52) with thoughts on Memorial Day and laments the lack of historical storytelling in mainstream culture, pitching the idea for a "Lewis and Clark" historical TV series.
• Discussion with producers Ali and Greg about how to engage youth with history:
  • Rush Limbaugh’s “Rush Revere” books are cited as an effective approach for young readers (04:08), highlighting the lack of excitement and imagination in typical school history education.
  • Clay: “I do think gripping and grabbing young kids on understanding that whatever struggles they are going through, they seem significant to you...But as you get older, you learn. Now, I’ve always been interested in American history, the stories of it…” (05:37)
• Producer Ali affirms Rush wrote the books out of “frustration that younger people weren’t really not just learning about history, but getting excited about it” (04:18).

Getting Kids Interested & The Role of Pop Culture

• Call-in segment features parents crediting the musical "Hamilton" for sparking their teenagers’ interest in the American Revolution (09:09). Clay admits:
  • "I don't criticize Hamilton too much...it really got her interested in the American Revolution, and that was a great blending of pop culture and history." (09:09)
  • He then critiques the politics of color-blind casting, humorously questioning if a white actor could play MLK or Obama, asserting double standards in representation (09:45-12:00).

Humor & Lighter Moments

• Clay and callers riff on pop culture’s engagement with history, with jokes about casting, the absurdity of the “Lion King” voice controversy, and potential new projects like “Crockett Studios” for American frontier stories (12:48, 44:30).
• Favorite listener quip: “Either way, you’re landing on the ground, it’s just hard or soft.” (15:22) – referencing paratrooper tales.

Breaking News: Tulsi Gabbard Resigns as DNI

• Clay breaks the news that Tulsi Gabbard is resigning as Director of National Intelligence due to her husband’s rare bone cancer diagnosis (22:56, 40:45).
  • “We certainly are praying for Tulsi, who’s been on this program many times over the years.”

In-depth Interview: Chip Roy (Texas Attorney General Candidate)

Starts at 25:40

Love of American—and Texas—History

• Chip Roy shares his passion for Revolutionary War and frontier history, arguing that narratives of courage like Lewis & Clark or the Battle of Bastogne have modern relevance:
  • “You get welled up with pride, particularly as we head into Memorial Day weekend...the men and women increasingly that have, you know, bore that burden and sat in those foxholes in the freezing cold or the freezing weather in crossing the Delaware...Those are the extraordinary moments that I love in American history." (26:52)

Personal Resilience: Cancer Battle

• Roy recounts battling cancer as a young father and how that gives him clarity and motivation in public service:
  • “When you stare down the double barrel of cancer, you get through it, you start to realize that all of this noise in politics doesn’t matter.” (29:39)

Texas Politics & the Stakes

• Roy outlines his qualifications and current race for Attorney General, emphasizing law enforcement experience, defense of Texans, and confronting the “Austin swamp” (30:31–34:09).
  • “You gotta have somebody who’s been in a courtroom, been a lawyer, been a prosecutor...All of these issues I mentioned, they're front and center and you gotta have somebody able to do it on day one.” (32:01)

College Baseball, Underrated Sports & Texas Rivalries

• The conversation shifts to the joy of college baseball (33:13-33:50), with both hosts extolling the atmosphere of the College World Series in Omaha.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On history education:
  “Rush wanted to really reach the next generation with those books...he was very creative about the whole process. And I read the books and as an adult I enjoyed them and learned from them.”
  —Producer Ali (04:18)

• On pop culture & double standards:
  “Imagine if a white guy had played Barack Obama. People would lose their minds. Now, I actually think it would be really funny. I think it would actually point out the absurdity, which is everyone’s history is protected so that only those people can play that historical group and except for white people.”
  —Clay Travis (10:45)

• Listener humor:
  “Either way, you're landing on the ground, it's just hard or soft.”
  —Listener, paraphrased by Clay (15:22)

• On personal perspective after cancer:
  “When you stare down the double barrel of cancer, you get through it, you start to realize that all of this noise in politics doesn’t matter.”
  —Chip Roy (29:39)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:52 – Clay on Memorial Day, history's importance, and pop culture
• 04:08–05:37 – Producer Ali on Rush’s books & engaging youth
• 09:09–12:00 – Caller and Clay on “Hamilton”, race in casting, and modern pop culture
• 15:22 – Listener jokes about paratroopers
• 22:56, 40:45 – Tulsi Gabbard’s resignation announcement and follow-up details
• 25:40–35:56 – Interview with Chip Roy: history, cancer, Attorney General race
• 33:13–33:50 – College baseball discussion
• 44:30–45:04 – Listener suggests “Crockett Studios” and other creative projects

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Flow & Tone

Clay carries the episode with a conversational, often humorous style—even when tackling personal and national challenges. Listener participation is encouraged and integrated. The episode blends reverence for history with irreverent jabs at contemporary cultural debates, making for both thought-provoking and entertaining radio.

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In Summary

This hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show weaves together the needs of American youth—especially teaching bravery and history—with sharp social commentary and news analysis. The breaking news about Tulsi Gabbard adds a serious current events angle, while the interview with Chip Roy blends reflection on national purpose with local Texas politics. Listeners are engaged both as a community and as contributors, illustrating the show's blend of entertainment and civic discussion.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

in hour number two Friday before memorial Day edition of the program, we are rolling through lots of different news stories out there. Buck will be back on Tuesday. He's out with his family today. Many of you are driving around like crazy. The roads are filled because I know it took me forever to get into this Panama City studio. Panama City Beach, Florida I'm down on the Gulf of America and I am texting right now with Shannon Spake. By the way, this story is out there and I think a lot of people are reacting to it with the it's an awful story. The death of Kyle Busch at the age of 41. He is a NASCAR legend and it has impacted people in a variety of different ways. She may be about to call in. She's been covering NASCAR for a long time. I thought that a lot of you probably stunned by that news, which has crossed over beyond the world of sports. We are reacting and discussing a lot of Memorial Day. I am putting out the pitch for there to be for there to be a Lewis and Clark show that is made. And there are a lot of people out there that are reacting. And I want to play some of these talkbacks. Ali points out. By the way, I don't know if producer Ali and producer Greg can get in front of the mics. Is Greg in studio today? I don't know. Okay, Greg, Ali, first of all, you said this is why Rush wrote the Rush Revere series. He has the same exact driving. He understands the understood and understands the importance of history for people long into the future. You heard him talk about this. Does he sound like me? Like we're those of us who are American history, really students, we evangelize. It's hard not to. And Rush wanted to really reach the next generation with those books. Clay, as I heard you monologuing in the last segment, that's the first thing I thought was this Rush Revere series, five books total. That he did was because of his frustration that younger people weren't really not just learning about history, but getting excited about it. The books they were given in school were either boring or textbook style. So he wanted to write YA books, young adult books that really kind of worked with their imaginations Brought history to them. He was very creative about the whole process. And I read the books and as an adult, I enjoyed them and learned from them. So what would you say, Greg?

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No, definitely. It was exactly one of the things that he believed strongly and again was the driving factor behind writing all of the books. And he talked about it frequently on

[Clay Travis]

the show because you're right, that is a tough age that like teenage tween teen getting them to read. And I think it's cool to pretend that you don't think or care about anything that happened before you. And I think partly that's just a function of teenage years. And for those of you out there who can go back in time and remember, I remember this well, anything that happened before me in sports, for instance, my dad would say, boy, Herschel Walker was amazing. I'd be like, what do I care about Herschel Walker? I care about the guys who are playing right now. I care about Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry and all these incredible players right now. And I didn't even care about athletes that much. But as you get older, you learn. Now, I've always been interested in American history, the stories of it, but I do think that gripping and grabbing young kids on understanding that whatever struggles they are going through, they seem significant to you. And some of you do have crazy. I have a nephew who had cancer as a kid. That's a really serious challenge. There are many people with very, very serious challenges out there. Most of us do not have childhood cancer. We are not fighting for our lives when we are young kids and we lose. I think an ability. To me, what it does is just toughen you up. People have gotten through way tougher things than what you are dealing with right now. You are too. You're stronger than you think you are. I think this is one reason that Charlie Kirk had resonance with young people because he didn't teach talk them like they are flowers that are in danger of wilting at any moment. Like they are delicate, fragile beings. I think kids want to. I mean this is why I think sports are important, honestly, because kids want to, I think, be coached sometimes hard by people who care and have high aspirations for them. By the way, speaking of high aspirations, I meant to bring you on recently. I feel like producer Greg I was reading where Trump has an early morning person and it is, I think Susie Wiles and meaning like 6am, 7am and then he has a night person which is Dan Scavino. Poor producer Greg, what hours am I texting you clips for the show? And I didn't even ask recently. I've been doing it for years. I was like, I hope he's got notifications turned off. What is your life like? Getting clips for me you have an opportunity to, to address the assemblage here.

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[Clay Travis]

You mean hours? Yeah, all hours. I don't sleep very much and so I will be sending things at all hours. So thank you as we come in for the holiday weekend to you guys for the work you're doing. We got some great talkbacks. I was going to hit a couple of these, by the way. I don't think I've mentioned in a little while the guests that we have lined up today. Chip Roy is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. George Nori at the top of the next hour. Steve Deese also. And Chip Roy is a huge history guy. He's also running for the Attorney General of Texas. That should be an interesting conversation. Crazy. The second batch of UFO files have come out. I know Buck doesn't believe there's any UFO stuff out there. We're, we've got probably he has to be the most listened to person who talks about UFOs on the planet, doesn't he? At least in the United States. George Norrie and I knew that the second batch was coming out soon. I didn't know officially that it was going to be coming out this morning. So we're going to talk, have some fun. Third hour with the UFO discussions, but a lot of you weighing in and reacting to the first hour of the show, the discussion surrounding history, Memorial Day and whether or not people are going to be super proud Here for the 250th anniversary of our country in about six weeks, here is Dave in Oak View, California. Cut D hey, couldn't agree with you more about mixing history and pop culture and the timing being right and it's in contrast to something you guys have said in the past when you guys would dump on the musical Hamilton. I'm not saying it's amazing, but for my 14 year old daughter who's about 16 now, it was huge. It really got her interested in the American Revolution and that was a great Blending of pop culture and history. I. You know what? This is why I didn't criticize Hamilton too much. Buck hates Hamilton. And I get it. It is the creators of Hamilton. It is super woke history. I just, I'm never going to buy into the idea that, oh, race is just a construct. Let's just make everybody who was white a different color. Because to me, in just a humorous way, imagine the reaction if I decided to do a Martin Luther King musical and a white guy played mlk. That feels like it would be pretty significant. I don't think that a lot of black people would say, hey, you know what? Color is just a thing. It doesn't matter if we did a musical about Barack Obama and a white guy played Barack Obama, by the way, even though he's half white. If a white guy played Barack Obama, you're not allowed to say that Barack Obama is half white. Mom was white. But FYI, Barack Obama's ancestors, I think, fought for the Confederacy. Yeah. So you're not allowed to say any of that, which I just said. But imagine if a white guy had played Barack Obama. People would lose their minds. Now, I actually think it would be really funny. I think it would actually point out the absurdity, which is everyone's history is protected so that only those people can play that historical group and except for white people. And it's racist if you notice that somebody who is not white is playing a white role. But it's also racist if you try to play anyone who is Asian or Hispanic or. Or black. If you put a white person in those roles, it's unexpected, unacceptable. And we were talking about this with the Odyssey, which I'm afraid Christopher Nolan is going to completely blow up. But Helen of Troy is described as a white woman. She's Greek. And so it would not make sense for Helen of Troy to be black if there were. What is the most famous historian? I don't know. If we were doing a story about. Didn't they do a story recently about an African tribe that was supposedly female warriors? If I remember correctly, if it had been Sydney Sweeney playing the lead African tribe warrior, I think people would lose their minds. That would be funny to me. But you wouldn't allow it to take place. Having said all of that, everybody enters study at different ages, and so you never know what is going to be the historical event that captures someone's attention. The woman King, by the way, was that story. And I don't remember who the black female actress was, but if it's Sidney Sweeney, hopefully in a Halter top was the woman King. Then I think in Africa. Look, the greatest African woman of all time. It's Sydney Sweeney. People would lose their minds. I'd probably go see the movie, but most people would lose their minds. Viola Davis. The team says if we replaced Viola Davis with Sydney Sweeney, people would lose their minds. I still think the funniest example of this was when they remade the Lion King live action. And they said it would be racist if white people voiced the African animals. Do you remember this controversy? The original Lion King, you had white voices of the lions. Now, lions can't actually talk. So this is a creative endeavor, just FYI. And we had Jeremy Irons, I think, was he Scar, Evil lion? And then we had Jonathan Taylor Thomas from Home Improvement. If I'm not mistaken, he was young Simba before Simba's voice changed. When they remade the movie, they did a live action version. They are. The lions still had to talk. But if the lions were voiced by white people, it was racist. This. I'm not. I'm not making this up. Because lions are from Africa and therefore black people had to be the voices of the lions or it would be cultural appropriation. So in 1993, when they made the original Disney movie, we had white voices, including a white villain. Jeremy Irons, I think was Scar. Spoiler alert. Scars. The bad guy in Lion King, in case you haven't seen it, when they remade it, they said it would be racist. It would be racist if white people voiced the lions. This is the world in which we live in. But we're supposed to be fine with Alexander Hamilton being a black dude because race doesn't matter. It only matters when white people can be replaced. We've got more talkbacks. Hold on. Let me see if I can catch up here. Oh, wow. This is big news. Tulsi Gabbard has resigned as National Intelligence Director. That just came down. I will react to that because we're about to go to a commercial break. Thank you, team for letting me know. I don't have a camera. I. Sorry, I don't have a televisions in the studio that I'm in right now. But let me play these two talk backs. We'll do a break and I'll come back and react to Tulsi Jeff in Houston.

[Buck Sexton]

Cut E. I was in 101st Airborne in the first Gulf War, and something you said just made me chuckle. He said they'd go up in the airplane, jump out, pull a cord on their belt and pray that they landed on the ground. Well, either way, you're landing on the ground, it's just harder, soft. Love you guys.

[Clay Travis]

That is pretty funny. Yes. They would pray they would land softly, safely in a way that they still existed on the ground. That is very funny though. Yes. Once you jump out, you're going to land. There is an inevitability to gravity. That is very funny. Yes. They wanted to land safely, softly, without broken legs, still alive. Sarah in Houston, Texas News Radio 740K TRH. I think your American history movie sounds great.

[Buck Sexton]

Although I don't know if you'd look good in buckskin.

[Clay Travis]

I would recommend. This sounds like a great project for Angel Studios and they are so pro America. Anyway, God bless America and God bless you. Thank you. I think I would look amazing in buckskin and a coonskin cap, if you must know. Sarah, when we come back. By the way, I think we could sell this show. I think the Lewis and Clark show just from this audience. I think this audience would watch it enough to make it profitable. Am I crazy? I don't even think that's remotely crazy. There are millions of you listening right now. I think you guys all just saying, hey, this new show is coming out, we trust it, we're going to watch it. And telling your friends and family, I think just this show could make that show successful. Now the show still has to be good, of course, but just this audience, the demand is such that I think this audience standing alone could make that successful. Okay, when we come back, news on Tulsi Gabbard. Sometimes this happens, by the way, on a Friday into a holiday. I was telling the team, monitor all the news stories, monitor everything because a lot of times you bury stories going into a long holiday weekend because a lot of people are on vacation and everybody's going to be out. And then by Tuesday it's kind of washed through the news cycle. So it always feels like these kind of weekends, these long weekends. A lot of times on the Friday afternoon we get the so called news dump. So again, Tulsi Gabbard reportedly resigning, reportedly out. I will catch up with that story during the break and be able to talk about the absolute latest there when I come back. But first I want to tell you about our friends at Super Sure. I went down to hang out with Howard Mackler. He's the founder of Super Sure. And you may even see the Super Shore logo in the UFC fights rings, the one that's going to be at the White House soon. Super Shores logo is on that mat if you watch those events. And Howard has built an awesome, incredible, fantastic, brand new company. He loves this show and he said, hey, you guys have a lot of business owners in your show and I bet they're frustrated over how confusing insurance can be. I said, you're preacher, the choir here. So many people out there. Those of you who run small businesses, 25 or so employees. You got healthcare, you got your business insurance. You got all these different insurance policies. You don't know what the heck they cover. You don't even know how they overlap. It's actually super confusing. You're Busy, you're working 80, 100 hours a week trying to run your business to make sure it's effective and then you're worried about what the insurance is, what's covered, what isn't. That is exactly what super sure is designed to fix. They have one broker for all your business insurance. They will figure out exactly what you need. They have a team that works with you year round, not just at renewal. They have easy to understand contracts, that fine print fax tool that will actually tell you what the heck does this actually say? Because lawyers write these policies so confusing. You can go online. You got nothing to cost at all. Go online to super sure.com clay right now. You get a full report on all your current policies. No obligations. Find out if you're overinsured, underinsured, somewhere in between. Just go to super sure.com clay one powerful platform, all your policies in one place. That's super sure.com clay paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Get covered at super sure.com clay looking for normal in a world of crazy.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay and Buck News. Reading up on this breaking news. Tulsi Gabbard has resigned as Director of National Intelligence. Fox is reporting and certainly we pray for her husband that this is because of her husband having an extremely rare form of bone cancer and she wants to be there to help him as he is fighting this battle. So again, Tulsi Gabbard resigning as the Director of National Intelligence and she is citing quote Fox is citing her husband having an extremely rare form of bone cancer that he has been diagnosed with and she wants to be there alongside him for the cancer battle. So we certainly are praying for Tulsi who's been on this program many times over the years. She and her husband Both born on America's darkest day of 9 11. The Tunnel of the Towers foundation has been helping America's heroes ever since. Heroes like New York Police Department Officer Pedro Garcia, a 25 year veteran who answered the call in the aftermath of 9 11. Pedro spent many days in search and recovery efforts at ground 0 in this 25th anniversary year of 9 11. We continue to see the toll that day is still taking on heroes and their families. Pedro bravely battled a 911 related illness that ultimately took his life. A took his life. He is survived by his wife Yvonne and their children. Today you can help us as we come into Memorial Day weekend. Remember those who gave everything in service of our country and say thank you with a donation to Tunnel the Towers. Join Buck and me and [e-mail] that's t2t.org welcome back in Clay and Buck. Buck is out. He'll be back with me on Tuesday after Memorial Day. We head down now to the great state of Texas. Talk with Chip Roy who's running for Attorney General in Texas. Runoff is Tuesday and we'll get into the race here in a second, Chip, but first, you are a huge history guy and I love a lot of the years around the Battle of San Jacinto and around the Alamo, you will share different historical moments from that era. What's your favorite part of American history to read about, to study and are you with me that a really well done show about the Lewis and Clark expedition would utterly dominate and that we need more American history infused bravery, courage, stories from the past to help in the pop culture space?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I mean look, I love this. I mean look, let's just do an entire show on this topic. It's great to be on and I'm a huge fan of American history and history generally. And obviously you brought up the Texas history great connection between your great state of Tennessee and your heroes that came to Texas and helped us in our victory at San Jacinta after obviously the Battle of the Alamo. But look, that's a tough question, but I would probably say my two parts. I mean, yes, 100% on Lewis and Clark. I mean look, I'm a guy who went to the University of Virginia, Thomas Jefferson. If you go to Monticello, there's Lewis and Clark stuff all over the foyer there in the front part of Monticello. I'm a big fan of the revolutionary period. That's obviously been well documented over the years in the history of the revolution. I still don't think people have felt enough of the extraordinary results of the battles that George Washington was able to fight and to win and what they were able to overcome, obviously, crossing the Delaware, but everything and how thin it was, how hard it was. I think there could still be more on that. And then I look, I mean, it is hard for me ever to. I mean, Band of Brothers did justice for those men that sat there in Bastogne, but I don't know that you can ever do it full justice. I mean, those are the moments of history where I get. You get welled up with pride, particularly as we head into Memorial Day weekend. You know, the men and women increasingly that have, you know, bore that burden and sat in those foxholes in the freezing cold or the freezing weather in crossing the Delaware, and then, you know, everything in our revolution at Valley Forge and everything else, it's just an extraordinary. Those are the extraordinary moments that I love in American history. But. But I do. I mean, I agree with you, Lewis and Clark. Imagine you and I just like, all right, let's suit up. You know, I mean, it's like Travis and Roy. Let's rock and roll and start heading west. I mean, think about it, right? That's what's crazy. My great, great grandfather was a Texas Ranger in Comanche country, in the Hill country, you know, back. You didn't go down to Walmart and get a box fan and a bottle of water, Right? You had to figure out how to survive, and that's what built our country.

[Clay Travis]

I saw a picture you posted. I didn't even know about this. You had cancer. You battled when you had two young kids. I'm sure you saw the news, if you haven't already, that Tulsi Gabbard has just posted that she's resigning. Her husband has an extremely rare form of bone cancer. She says she's going to be helping him recover. What was that battle like for you and how did it create or drive you to the person that you are today?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I appreciate that question. Obviously, my prayers go out to Tulsi. She's become a very good friend, and I think so highly of her. And I just, you know, prayers for her husband and for her. You know, she's got a home in Austin. Her sister lives there, and. And so we've gotten to know each other very well. Yeah, Going through cancer, that's a, that's a game changer. You know, I was, I talk about it on the campaign trail. God gave me some bonus time. But when I at the time had a three month old daughter, that picture you're referencing, you know, it just popped up on my phone and I posted it. My little daughter, who was then a few months old, was just sprawled out, passed out and I was sitting there in my very thin, bald head, chemo state and you know, my son was just not quite two years old. And at that point, your thoughts are very clear. I want to see them graduate high school. I want to walk my daughter down the aisle. You get, you get real quick to the things that matter. And that's what's driven me in politics. It's been very clarifying. I just don't care what people tweet at me. I don't care what other politicians say about me or think about me. And I think that, you know, look, you can get into trouble if you get arrogant, you know, in that way. And I try not to be, but I think it does give you a certain set of confidence that you put the full body of armor on that God gives you. And you just walk out into the fight and you say, put me where you want me to be, Lord. And, and you don't worry about it because you realize you have people say, chip, you're going to go be Attorney General. You just want to be the title. Look, I don't care about titles. I don't care what you put on a tombstone I'll never see. I don't care what the history books have in it that I'll never read. I care that my kids can live in a free country and that they can know Jesus Christ and that they can proclaim the gospel and that we can live in the, continue to live in the greatest country in the history of the world. That's what motivates me. And I know a lot of people can say those things, but when you stare down the double barrel of cancer, you get through it, you start to realize that all of this noise in politics doesn't matter.

[Clay Travis]

Having said all that, Tuesday is the runoff election. You are running for Attorney General. And I thought that was very well said for people out there in Texas. And we have a huge audience listening to us right now in Texas. What should they know about the race and what should they know about their choices?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I appreciate the question. I'm running against a state senator who I've known a long time. I don't wish him any ill will, but he's been running a very tough race. He inherited a lot of money and he's been spending that money. Not a well kept secret that he wants to be governor and Attorney General is a nice stepping stone to be governor. I don't know what the Lord has in my future, but I know I want to be the Attorney General for the state of Texas. I want to be a lawyer for the people of Texas. At a time when I think we've, we've not had the things we're facing today since 1836, since you mentioned the Alamo in San Jacinta, the stuff that's happening with respect to Islam marching through Texas, the criminals on our streets. The George Shore has funded Marxist, Das and judges the borders that we have to manage. God bless President Trump and Tom Homan and Secretary Mullen. We've stopped the flow, but that's not always going to be the case. We have illegals in our state, the burden on us, data centers, water grid, all these things. It's a big state, 31 million people. And you've got to have somebody who's been in a courtroom, been a lawyer, been a prosecutor, been the first attorney General, not someone who needs on the job training. I've been in court, I've been there. I've been a federal prosecutor and I've run that agency. My opponent never has. He's been managing his family oil and gas royalties. You know what, God bless him, I don't wish him ill for that. But it doesn't prepare you to be the Attorney general. All of those issues I mentioned, they're front and center and you got to have somebody able to do it. On day one, Ken Paxton has been taking the fight to corporate America, taking the fight to the federal government, defending Texans. I'll do the same thing and I'll do it with the full backing of so many friends from across the state of Texas, like Ted Cruz, who is the former Solicitor General, one of the most brilliant legal minds that we have in the nation. So many great groups and freedom fighters that are backing me and supporting me. But look, there's a lot of people in the Austin swamp who don't want someone like me who call out balls and strikes. And the Austin swamp is every bit as big as the D.C. swamp. And now I know you know that because I know you've probably seen the same thing in Tennessee, you know, state government, you can have a whole lot of swamp actors there. And that's what I'm facing. Some folks There that are saying, wait a minute, we don't want this guy who comes in and calls balls and strikes and tells the truth. And I'm going to do that. And that's why the reaction has been great. We're trending well in the polls. Some great people with God's blessed resources through oil and gas and other have stepped to the plate to help me match dollar for dollar, our spending. So we're trending in the right direction. I can tell you. The Austin Swamp is nervous. And look, I want to win this election. I want to win Tuesday, become the Ag. And then I want to take a break and go watch college baseball next weekend. Go watch, watch the Longhorns, the Aggies, Virginia Cavaliers. You know, we've got a lot of good SEC and ACC guys in the, in the baseball tournament, as we always do. They pretty much dominate the tournament.

[Clay Travis]

I think college baseball is the most underrated sport in America in terms of how much fun it is, and a lot of people still haven't figured it out. I got to go to Omaha and watch my Tennessee Volunteers win the title a couple of years ago. We got a great audience. KFAB in Omaha. One of the coolest experiences out there. College World Series on the bucket list in Omaha for a lot of you,

[Buck Sexton]

so cool, 100% the most underrated sport in America. It's not even close. I took my son in 14 and 15 when Virginia was in the finals against Vanderbilt. Now, by the way, as a Tennessee guy, you know, you know, the animosity there. And the Whistler, right? The guy.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, the Vandy Whistler.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. And that guy was there for the two times I took Charlie. My son was only five, six years old. Virginia lost the first one, we beat Vanderbilt the second one. And then I thought we were going to play Texas. As you know, I went there for law school. My wife's an Aggie. And of course, A and M lost a tough one to Tennessee, right?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. A couple of years ago. Yeah. In the final.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. So it was brutal. And my son loves A and M baseball, but look, college baseball, you're right, it's underrated. It's so fun. I hope to get the regionals next week, but I'm just asking everybody to get out and vote. Last day early voting is today throughout Texas. Tuesday. Just don't believe all the lies. I'm not going to get into it, refuting them. A lot of, lot of things being said. It's politics, I get it, but it's a bunch of lies. The People who know me, they know I've been defending the president. I stand alongside the president, delivered on the big beautiful bill, delivered. I'm the lead author of the Save America Act, a proven lawyer. So get out there and support Chiproy for attorney general so we can defend the state of Texas. And really appreciate it, brother.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. Last question for you. A lot of attention on the Senate race, the runoff. Do you have any doubt whether it's Ken Paxton or John Cornyn that James Talarico is going to lose?

[Buck Sexton]

Correct. And first of all, it sure looks like it's probably going to be Ken Paxton. I mean, certainly after the president's endorsement. I mean, we'll see the people speak on Tuesday, but that seems likely. And now we will get out and win the race. Now, I will tell you, Democrats are motivated. They're going to spend a lot of money and this, you know, you remember our mutual friend ted Cruz in 2018 battling Beto O'. Rourke. He only won by two point, I think 4 or 5%. And that was the first time I ran for Congress and I got the nomination in a tough battle. I won a runoff for Congress and, and then I had to run into general in Austin and I won that race with 2.7% victory. So I know what it takes to run a tough race in the general. We're going to have to run that kind of a race this year. It's another reason to support me, by the way, is I've been there and I've done it. I think we can win all these races, but we're going to have to show up. The governor is right to be sounding the alarm. Texans are going to have to step up to make sure we win this fall.

[Clay Travis]

No doubt. Chip Roy, the runoff Tuesday. Texans get out and vote. Appreciate the time, sir.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, God bless you. Talk soon. Take care.

[Clay Travis]

For sure. All right, we'll come back. Tulsi Gabbard has posted more about her resignation. And we also have a statement from President Trump not only about Tulsi, but also about Don Junior's wedding, which is vintage Trump, the way that he has handled that. We will read both of those for you when we return. But I want to tell you, as we are rolling into Memorial Day weekend, it is finally getting warm across much of the country. And that means it is trees, plants, shrubs. It is the time of year when many of you are out there deciding that you are going to make new decisions when it comes to plants in your communities, whether you live in a house, whether you live in an apartment, whether you live in a condo wherever you are, Fast Growing Trees has things for you and you are going to love them. And, and I gotta be careful what I mention on here because you guys go buy up every single time we mention any of these products. Even when I mention them and I mispronounce them and we get deluged with people saying, you're a moron, Clay. How do you not know how to pronounce? I don't know a lot about trees and plants. I know a little bit about trees. But if you're like me and you're not an expert, I love that you can just go put your zip code in and they will tell you what should grow in your area. They have an alive and thrive guarantee. It comes right to your home. And again, producer Ali lives in an apartment in New York City. Fresh plants, different roses, everything else that can live in your apartment, live out on your windowsill. You don't have to be living in a, in a home like I do with a yard. You can find things that make total sense. Trees, plant shrubs, whatever it might be. And you get 20% off right now when you use my name, Clay. 20% off everything. Just go check it out. Fast growing trees.com the trees, the plants, the shrubs you want alive and thrive guarantee right to your doorstep. My Name Clay for 20 off fast growing trees.com My Name Clay for 20

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[Clay Travis]

Tulsi Gabbard has posted and I want to read from you. The Director of National Intelligence I'm deeply grateful for the trust President Trump placed in me and for the opportunity to lead for the last year and a half. Unfortunately, I must submit my resignation effective the end of June. My husband has recently been diagnosed with an extremely rare form of bone cancer. He faces major challenges in the coming weeks and months. At this time I must step away from public service to be by his side and fully support him through this battle. Her subordinate, Aaron Lucas has been elevated into the top role now and Aaron is a friend of Buck and Mines. In fact, if you remember when we visited the CIA, he was our tour guide. He is a great guy. I know that he is stepping into a super difficult role and he will now be the Director of National Intelligence and he will be stepping into Tulsi's role. So Aaron is going to do a great job but Certainly for those of you out there, prayers for Tulsi and her family who are dealing obviously with. With a super difficult situation for their family. Many of you reacting to a variety of different subjects. By the way, we've had a lot of fun, a lot of serious talk about history. At the top of the next hour, I told producer Ali, I said, for the final hour, before we go into the Memorial Day holiday, let's do something on UFOs. And so we have George Norrie. And I'm super fascinated about this. This actually comes partly from my oldest son who is graduating from high school next week, heading into college in the fall, obsessed with UFOs and wants to talk about him all the time. And he told me the other day, dad, you should have a really good UFO guest on Urine Buck show. And I said, you know what? That's actually a pretty good idea. Let me reach out to producer Ali. The timing ended up being perfect because they're a huge UFO release that that came out. And so all of this adding up could make a lot of sense. But a lot of you weighing in to what we have been discussing. By the way, shoot your shot. I just tagged a clip of us on this program talking about how we need to have great Lewis and Clark streaming show made. And I sent it to Jeff Bezos. So you can go onto my Twitter feed if you like that idea. Like it? Look, Jeff Bezos has spent hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more. We had Jack Carr on the Terminal List program. He's done all the Lord of the Rings programs. And after that interview on cnbc, I think he's tried to avoid politics, but I think he agrees with a lot of what we would be saying on this program. He's got the resources to be able to do a really good version of that. So I said, hey, Bezos, how about we make this show? Denise in Greenwood, Arkansas, she wants to weigh in. Listening on 1320 KWHN. Just like Rush had to do the series of books that he was passionate about. I believe you have to do your series that you're passionate about. And in the same way we supported Crockett Coffee, just make a Crockett studios. I grew up on Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone. And this could be the same. I love the idea Buckle like that idea, too, of Crockett Studios. I mean, we named our coffee company after Davy Crockett. It's fantastic coffee. You guys have supported it at a high level. I'm starting a new media company. I've never made anything other than live shows, meaning sports shows, news shows, things like that. So I don't know what is required to make something of this scope and magnitude. I do know the story is incredible and look, that's a fantastic, nice idea. Jason in New Hampshire has feedback as well. Cut H Just calling to let you know that Netflix does actually have a Lewis and Clark show. It's called the Men who Built America. I haven't seen it, so I don't

[Buck Sexton]

know if it's any good, but just

[Clay Travis]

wanted to let you know that's a great series. It's from the History Channel and I'm talking about a live action, real Game of Thrones, budget style Lewis and Clark show. That's what I want. We come back Alien Talk here on Clay and Buck Speaking Truth and Having Fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton,

[Buck Sexton]

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