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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
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Nate Silver
And I'm Maria Konnikova.
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Buck Sexton
On our podcast Risky Business, we talk everything from politics to poker and from betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. Sports bettors need a bit more street smarts because there's this whole second side to sports betting of how do you actually. How do you get your money down good if people think that you're a winning better. And now that March madness is upon us, we're talking bracket strategies, odds, how to maybe actually win your office pool. You can listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed.
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Buck Sexton
To killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one. Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Clay Travis
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
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Buck Sexton
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Clay Travis
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the.
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Buck Sexton
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. John Bachelor's on 710 WO tonight at 9.
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Nate Silver
But now here come Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back into the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Interesting day in the economy. Some stuff happening you may have heard in the markets. S&P 500 sliding down 4 percentage points. The Dow Jones Industrial Average has fallen 1600 and China has thrown a 34% tariff back at US in response to what Trump is doing. That all said, it was a good day on the jobs numbers front. Like to bring you a little good news with all of this as well. And here is the man who kicked off the Tea party back in 2010, Rick Santelli of CNBC talking about those jobs numbers and pretty good play one.
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Buck Sexton
Non farm payrolls beats estimates 228,000 jobs. That would be the strongest this year and it would comp to 323,000 in Dec. Of last year. There is however a minus 48,000 two month revision minus 48K. Now let's go for the unemployment rate, shall we? Expected 4.1 moves up to 4.2. That equals where we were in November. Labor force participation rate coming in at 62.5.
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Nate Silver
That is indeed good news. It's up a tenth from both expectations.
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Buck Sexton
And the rearview mirror.
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Clay Travis
All right, so we got healthcare, social assistance, transportation sectors adding jobs. The 228,000 number for last month, solid, looking good. A healthy, healthy increase there in the jobs. And this is coming at a time also when the Doge Efficiency Task force has had some layoffs. Federal government employees declined by just 4,000 in March. They dropped 11,000 in February. President Trump welcomed in all apps Clay the jobs numbers with this quote, it's already working. Hang tough, we can't lose. Okay, so Trump is not backing down at all on this. I want to, I want to get to more of our calls and talk backs because I know people just, we need to hear everybody out on this. A lot of diverse opinions about it. But for you, I feel like you and I see this largely from a similar perspective of there's definitely no need for panic and this could be a very good thing and if it's not a good thing, he'll fix it.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. And also the stock prices, if you are out there, the stock prices are basically the same as they were in May of last year. And I know people don't spend a lot of time looking at historic averages, but over 10 years on average, the S&P 500 is going to double basically every 10 years. If you buy index funds and you put them away in your drawer and you basically don't look at them on year to year basis, keep buying because you keep rolling that money in because you believe in the long range success of America, it's the best possible thing you can do. So when I sold my company, I mostly bought S&P 500 index funds back in 2021. I sit them there, I don't touch them and I keep adding to them. And that's my general investment plan. Now I like real estate, buy a lot of different things there. But I'm telling you guys to do the same thing that I do. And I think it's basically the best financial advice you can get. Put them in a drawer, don't look at them, check them once a month if you want to check them once every six months, even better. And over time you're going to have good results. It's when you are trying to time the market that you oftentimes get caught because most people don't. And again, the most brilliant investor of any of our lives is Warren Buffett. And his most famous quote is be greedy when others are scared, fearful and be fearful when others are greedy. Right. Basically you're taking what, whatever the masses are doing, the masses are often wrong because the masses are ruled oftentimes by emotion. I think you need to have a long range view.
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Clay Travis
Right. Well, you're taking particularly in that, in that last discussion, Clay, a. An investor view on this. A lot of, a lot of our people, a lot of our listeners, a lot of our friends all across the country, they don't even really think about this as investors. So what affects them more, or rather I think what they're more concerned about, first and foremost, jobs. Will there be job cuts, substantial job cuts in the private sector at companies as a result of this. So that's, that's a concern. And then also prices. I mean, I have seen some pretty in depth analysis online from some smart folks on the financial side of things who say that this could cause a, a real increase in prices, at least over the short term. So I think those are things that Trump is going to have to watch very, very closely, very carefully. There is definitely a feeling among a lot of the MAGA faithful that if Wall street has to take a 15 or a 20% haircut for a while, so be it. But if the joblessness rate starts to go up substantially and if the price of goods that people need, not that they kind of want, not luxury goods, the price of food, gas, electricity, if that starts to go up substantially as a result of this, then there's going to be pressure on the program.
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Buck Sexton
About 60%. We'll take some of your calls and reactions here. About 60% is the number that I have seen people own stock in America. That is you either own individual stocks or your 401k or your pension does. What percentage of our audience do you think is invested? 80. I would think it's higher than the general consensus. But to your point, Buck, if you're not a stock market investor, it is somewhat funny to me that Democrats rail all the time about the wealthy, the billionaire class, even though the billionaire class, by and large actually votes Democrat and supports them more. But they rail all the time about the billionaire class. As soon as the stock market starts going down, it's a calamity. Well, if you don't really care that much about the billionaire class or they don't need the money that they have, why would you be focused on the stock market? I think it's because they need a tangible something to grab onto to say Trump is doing a horrible job. They can't say it on the border. They can't say it on violent crime, they can't say it on deportations. They can right now argue, oh, the stock market is down since Trump got elected and that is really their only move. They were trying to argue eggs. Egg prices are down. We told you gas prices are going to be coming down soon because the barrel of oil is at a record low for the last four years or so. So whatever you're paying at the pump for your gallon of gas going to be well under $3 on average. Because somebody's going to tell me, hey, I live in San Francisco and my okay, on average, the passive price of an unleaded gallon of gas Going to be under $3, maybe even going under 250. That's where I think most people kind of gauge how the economy's going. My concern, if I had one buck, is if you run a business and you've been running the business based on the expected outcome of the rules being X, and suddenly you find out the rules are Y, do you draw back and not spend the money that you had been spending, planning to spend? That is my concern. Why we need to. If you were asking me, hey, Clay, what. What concerns you here? It's the ability of business to plan, and they now have unexpected realities, and it takes sometimes years for businesses to invest substantial dollars. But we've got a lot of people out there who want to weigh in, who should.
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Clay Travis
I just want to say, Clay, real quick, before we get to the, before we get to the calls, I mean, just the thing we want to avoid here, right? Stagflation. You're going to hear people talking about it. Stagflation is high inflation, slow economic growth, high unemployment. So to your point about the investing and, and particularly for businesses and their balance sheets, that's something you want to. Because if they're not investing and they're cutting and they're not hiring and, and we continue to have inflation chipping away and we have high prices, then things start to start to pinch. That's. That's not a good place to be. All right, let's get to those calls. As you said, we have Neil in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. What's going on, Neil?
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Nate Silver
Hey, guys.
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Buck Sexton
I have a little bit of a.
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Nate Silver
Different take on it. I'm a big Trump supporter, voted for him three times, and he's done a lot of great stuff on the tariffs. I wasn't expecting this. It seems like he's going to financial war with the entire world. What I thought he was going to do was to take away the incentive from companies to have a plant here and move it to Mexico because it's cheaper to make it there and the company makes more money.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, a nice thing about having.
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Nate Silver
A plant in your town is that big company. You got lots of jobs there, thousands of jobs, but that leaves. You don't have that anymore. The only people that are making money are the owners of the company and the investors in the company. I thought Trump would figure out a way to take away that incentive, and that would have been the tariff that if you're saving $10,000 per vehicle to make your truck in China or Mexico, let's put a $10,000 tariff on that. So that it costs you the same to make it here, just keep the factories here and that would be more jobs.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I think. Sorry to cut you off, Neil. I think that is the goal, right? The goal in a tariff free world would be that American commerce can compete more fairly around the world. And again, it does. From a purely analytical perspective, I think most economists would say we shouldn't have tariffs, right? I think that's what they would say. Because then the free world, like for instance, by and large we don't have. The reason the United States has been able to be so successful as a huge economic heavyweight is because we don't have 50 different tax tariffs. When you're trying to sell a good in California, by and large you don't have to pay way more to get to Texas or you don't have to pay way more to get to Michigan or whatever it is. Now, I know there's cost of shipping, all those things. I'm not talking about the cost there. I'm saying by and large there isn't a tariff. Because inside of the United States, which is why Trump has said Canada should come in, we don't have tariff regulation between states. You're not paying massive amounts. I know, I'm going to get emails. People say, well, the tax rate here is that, yes, I get it, but you're not paying a tax every time you cross a state line. And I think the goal, again, big picture here is if we can eliminate tariffs and lead to American products being treated the same as we treat other products, is it still going to be cheaper to make things in Vietnam, for instance, than it is in the United States? Yes, because they have a lower standard of living. That's why the shoes are made there. But we should be competing evenly with other countries that are also of our size and magnitude, like China and everything else would kind of log into and again, and it would lead to more jobs here.
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Clay Travis
This was, this, this forces us to look at. Okay, so I mean, for Vietnam, which does a lot of textile and mentioned shoes, a lot of that manufacturing, if you look at your clothing, is very good chance the clothing you're wearing is, is made in Vietnam. And why do they have tariffs then? If they just have. If their cost of goods and, and labor is cheaper and they can compete fairly in the international market.
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Buck Sexton
Right.
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Clay Travis
Again, it's not that we want to make everything here, but why would any country have tariffs against any American goods if we were going. If we can avoid it? So let's take Pat in Menominee Falls. Did I Get that? Wisconsin.
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Buck Sexton
Menominee Falls, Wisconsin.
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Clay Travis
So you're saying I nailed it. You're saying I stuck the landing. Pat, thank you. What's going on?
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Nate Silver
It's very close.
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Buck Sexton
Well, what, what you might try emphasizing is anyone who's working like you guys, and whether it be in a factory or a professional place, whatever, you're probably contributing to an IRA or a 401k.
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Nate Silver
Or you have a pension plan.
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Buck Sexton
The people that run pension plans, they are spiraling from ear to ear because they have to buy every week, every month. They have to buy their dollar cost averaging. What people have to realize is when you're, this is what you're hoping for when you're involved in a plan, that the plan is smart. They don't have to be smart at all right now. They just have to keep buying while it's down. Because sooner or later, like you said.
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Nate Silver
And many of your callers said, things.
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Buck Sexton
Are going to uptick. And when they uptick, wouldn't it be so much nicer that you bought that gallon of gas for 50 cents rather than two 50? Thank you for the call. Yes, for people out there who don't know, dollar cost averaging is basically the idea that you're going to put a certain amount of money into the stock market every week, every month, every year, and you're going to buy no matter where the price is. And what dollar cost averaging would do is when there are dips, it would give you the opportunity for higher returns. Obviously it also means basically buy and hold, right? And index funds are the best way to buy and hold because you don't know necessarily which stocks are going to take off and which stocks are going to bomb. I buy s and P500 index funds. That's the 500 biggest companies, right. All my money is in s and P500 index funds because over time, bucks and P500 funds have been proven index funds to beat the vast majority of brilliant money managers around the globe simply by staying put and investing in a broad based index.
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Clay Travis
You want to invest if you're an investor. And all of our 401ks and all of our retirement plans and pensions are premised on this clay. You want to bet on the American economy to continue to be the greatest wealth generation machine in the history of existence? Yeah, that's really it. So you can either bet on the American, I mean, that's really the, I think a distilled Warren Buffett philosophy too. I mean, there's more nuance to it than that. But he bets on the American Economy. And then you have to ask yourself, if you can't bet on the American economy long term. I'm not saying, you know, day to day, of course, but if you can't bet on the American economy long term.
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Buck Sexton
What else is there? Where do you go? I mean, that's the crypto guys out there. Like, it's crypto. Clay, you buy crypto because the whole world's collapsing and you need a. I.
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Clay Travis
Live in Miami, let me tell you. You want to. You want to get your hand. Hand blown off investing really quickly, start messing around with the wrong crypto.
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Buck Sexton
So, yeah, but that's where crypto guy is screaming that. But really, I mean, what else is there? Are you an expert in Japanese stocks? Are you an expert in China's completely manipulated stock market? I mean, do you feel comfortable about Europe? I think you either buy a US or. Or you're. You're like a Doom Scroller. Look, feeling safe in your own home should be a no brainer. Something you can count on. Protecting yourself in your own home against a possible intrusion. Something you can prepare for too, in the unlikely event it ever happens to you. You want to have the right protection tools. And that's what Sabre does. Family owned business that. They've been at this for 50 years now. Whether it's pepper sprays, let's say you got a teenager running around. I used to have pepper spray back in the day we were talking about. I'd ride the school bus home. Fifth grade, buddy. I was ready. Pepper spray on the, on the keychain when I got home. Nobody else is in the house. You got teenagers out there, daughters, granddaughters off to college. You want to get them pepper spray, you can do it. Maybe you're at home, maybe you're at home and you've got a lot of kids coming in and out of the house. Kids or grandkids, People coming in at odd hours. Maybe kids trying to skip out on the curfew. Maybe teenagers every now and then coming in unexpectedly. You don't want to use something that is lethal as a result, because you're just nervous about who might be coming in when that alarm's going off. Might well be your family. How about the pepper projectile spray launcher? It is small enough to hold in one hand. Buck and I have used this. We fired it all off in the Everglades recently. These things are really easy. They're fun to use. That was a cool, interesting spot where we did our pepper spray. But these things are really easy to use and they aren't lethal. But they'll protect you. Get hooked up now saberradio.com you can also call 844-824 safe. That's saberradio.com they're fabulous. 15 off everything on the website right now when you use the code saber radio saberradio.com 844-824 safe stories of freedom.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Inspirational stories that unite us all. Spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it is Ryan and I was on a flight the other day playing one of my favorite social spin slot games on chumbacasino.com I looked over the person sitting next to me and you know what they were doing? They were also playing Chumba Casino. Everybody's loving having fun with it. Chumba Casino's home to hundreds of casino style games that you can play for free, anytime, anywhere. So sign up now@chumbacasino.com to claim your free welcome bonus. That's chumbacasino.com and live the Chumba Life. Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary VGW Group void where prohibited by law 21/ terms and conditions apply. You know how we're always talking about what's next? Well, I found it. It's called Formula E. Forget everything you think you know about racing. This isn't just cars going fast. It's like a supercomputer on wheels. The tech is insane and the drivers, they're like chess grandmasters at 200 miles per hour. You've got to see it. Trust me, you'll be hooked. Follow Formula E live on Roku next race Miami, April 12 for the next four years, maybe more, the name of the game is efficiency and doing more while spending less. And I'm not talking about our government. Private sector desperate to cut unnecessary expenses while still building better products and services and beat the competition.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Nate Silver
Ever see your cat slowing down or.
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Buck Sexton
Having health issues and wonder, what can I do to make them better? Well, my friend, add Meow Greens to.
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Nate Silver
Your cat's food for 90 days and.
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Buck Sexton
I guarantee you'll see changes that will amaze you.
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Nate Silver
Greetings.
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Buck Sexton
I'm naturopathic doctor Dennis Black, inventor of Meow Greens, and I invite you to take the Meow Greens 90 day challenge. In the first 30 days, you'll see shinier coats and increased energy. By day 60, your cat will have a stronger immune system, less shedding, improved joint function, all due to the live.
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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
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Nate Silver
You don't have to change your cat's.
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Buck Sexton
Food to improve your cat's health. Just add a packet of Meow Greens. I'm Nate Silver. And I'm Maria Konnikova. We're both journalists and professional poker players. And on our podcast Risky Business, we talk about taking risks in everything from poker to politics. And we talk about betting, from betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. We've learned a lot about taking risks through our own research and sometimes even our own bets. And we share what we've learned with you. Are you still doing sports betting? I had no idea that you'd wagered over a million dollars for your research. I bet almost the entirety of the 2022, 23 NBA season, all the regular season and about half the playoffs. And I learned that, I mean, it's probably what I should have expected, but I learned that it's pretty hard. I went on a huge heater at the start of the NBA season where it was up like 70,000 bucks. I'm like, man, I'm really good at the sports betting stuff. But then, but then things change.
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Nate Silver
Now that March Madness is upon us.
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Buck Sexton
We'Re talking bracket strategies and a whole lot more. Join us and listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Quick turnaround, but I wanted to hit a couple of talkbacks. This is Bob from KTLK up in Minnesota. He wants to react to Carrie from Michigan.
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Nate Silver
Listen, Bob from Minnesota, Carrie from Michigan, hit it. Right on. I think everyone that's about 60, which.
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Buck Sexton
Includes my themselves, to ask themselves, are.
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Nate Silver
You willing to work a couple more years just to make this country better for the next generation? The answer should be yes.
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Buck Sexton
Interesting take there. Stacy From Cape Coral, Florida, 92.5ws WFSX says this. Hey, guys, this is Stacy from Cape Coral, Florida.
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Nate Silver
I'm in favor of the tariffs because.
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Buck Sexton
I think of them just like going to the gym. No pain, no gain. Love you guys.
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Nate Silver
Bye.
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Buck Sexton
There you go. People weighing in. You can always weigh in on the talkback. You can also. We'll take your calls. I want to tell you right now, you've been hearing about how challenging everything is right now going on in Israel. I just came back from Israel and I have to tell you, I cannot impress upon you enough what incredible work the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is doing right now. They have been helping to protect people. I saw the work that they are doing to provide security, bomb shelters, as well as feed people who are in need as a result of the October 7 terror attack there. They've got bomb shelters, armored security vehicles, ambulances, firefighting equipment, flak jackets, bulletproof vests, so much more. Your donation makes a tremendous difference and you can help bless Israel and her people by visiting supportifcj.org that's one word. Supportifcj.org Foreign.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in, everybody. We have Senator Tuberville with us now. Senator, appreciate you being here. Much to discuss with you today.
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Nate Silver
Thank you very much for having me on it. Yep, there's a lot going on.
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Clay Travis
All right. Let's talk first. We got some, some very important sports commentary and all that coming here in a second. But I do have to ask you, because there's a lot of concern out there. The headlines are really all dominated right now by what the market's doing in response to Trump's Liberation Day and the tariffs. You are in the United States Senate, the August legislative body that it is. You have to oversee a lot of what's going on with the economy with your fellow senators. Are you worried? Is this all part of the plan? What do you tell to a lot of our Trump supporting audience that has a little bit of concern right now?
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Nate Silver
Well, everybody's a little concerned. But let me tell you this. It's called a great reset. I've been Here four years, and I've never seen the destruction of our country so fast. And what the Democrats did for the last four years and then the eight years before President Trump went in for four years, he got it back on track to some point. But we're in trouble. This whole country's in trouble. And we cannot continue to run the football up the middle like we've been doing it. We got to start throwing the ball a little bit. That's analogy I've been putting on it. The game plan has changed. We're going to win this game and we're going to do things different. Because if we stay the course of what we've been doing, $37 trillion in debt will be just a small part of what we'll be in. And then we'll end up being a socialist country with third world mentality of crime and all the things that are going on. We have got to do something different. And it will work because President Trump understands it. So does Scott Bessett, the Secretary of Treasurer. Treasurer Howard Ludnick, Commerce Secretary. They've got a great plan. I'm looking forward to it working.
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Buck Sexton
Senator Tuberville with us right now from Alabama. Appreciate you joining us. We're going to talk with Bruce Pearl actually, a little bit later, scheduled to end the show, and I'll ask you about him in a sec. I think he's the AP coach of the year. Not a bad guy, not a bad result there. But you have been sharing this story and our audience has responded to it in a big way. A young woman was in a fencing competition and she decided to take a knee rather than compete against a man who was winning many of these matches? You coached football. You've got a background in sports for a long time. Would you have ever believed that we would be in a position where one political party is saying men should be able to compete in women's sports and the other one is just saying, hey, we think women's sports should just be for women and that it's truly turned into a Democrat versus Republican issue.
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Nate Silver
It's unbelievable. And it's just a continuing motion of what the Democrats in this city of Washington, D.C. has done to the American dream. They have. They're trying to destroy it. We're not going to allow that to happen. This young girl who was fencing the University of Maryland, I think she was part of university, but she was on the USA fencing team, you know, refused to compete against a man. And she's exactly right. I mean, there's no, no, there's no business whatsoever for young boys or men to participate against girls or women. And you got to think about this, and President Trump's even said this, in a couple years, we're getting ready to have the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. We'll be the laughingstock of the world if we can't get this back going the way it should be. I can remember watching the last Olympics and that boy or man boxing against that young lady.
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Buck Sexton
Yep.
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Nate Silver
And it was a mismatch. So we got to get it done. I've been. I've had three bills on the floor. All three of them have not passed. Not one Democrat ever votes to keep men out of women's sports. It is a disaster. Now I've got no men in Olympic sports. And we'll put that on the floor. But they're going to fight against it. I don't understand. I ask them, you know, what do you believe in and what we believe in? The rights of everybody. How about the rights for young girls and women? Because we're going to lose women's sports if we don't watch it.
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Buck Sexton
Let me give you a little bit more detail for those of you out there who may not know young woman's name. Stephanie Turner, she said on Fox News this morning, I told them I was refusing to fence because this person is a man and I'm a woman and this is a women's tournament. The USA Fencing Organization then kicked her out of the tournament and, and has expelled her from being able to compete. But this is a very powerful moment. It's on video, her saying, quite simply, I'm a woman and it's a women's tournament and I'm not going to compete against a man. And the fact that this is a political issue in any way is crazy. I coach a Little League baseball. Let me tell you, if somebody had shown up with a 16 year old and tried to play in 12U, every parent in America would have said no. This is why we have age limits. This is also why we have men and women's sports.
- [31:25]
Clay Travis
Fuck, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
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Nate Silver
Parents all over you, too. You'd have had parents all over you.
- [31:31]
Buck Sexton
If you no doubt would have won, though.
- [31:38]
Clay Travis
Senator Tuberville, you know, President Trump has taken a very strong posture on this. And specifically in the case of Maine, we recall the governor of Maine got into a little back and forth with him and she said, you know, I'll see you in court. Which is generally not something you want to say to Trump, because this guy lives for the conflict he loves to throw down when he thinks he needs to and when he thinks he's in the right. Now, it turns out that it looks like Maine's trying to back off a little bit, but the federal funding is going to get cut to Maine if they continue down this pathway. I mean, do you support taking those kinds of actions to protect women in sports? What would you like to see done?
- [32:18]
Nate Silver
Everything that we possibly can do. We have to do it. It has started not at just the high school or college level. It's got to start out in elementary school. It's got to start out in the. And the levels that we need young girls to be involved and enjoy participating in sports, to get them involved in it. It's made great leadership out of a lot of women over the years. I can remember when I first got into coaching, Title IX just started. And it opened up the avenues for many, many different sports that girls didn't have. Softball, volleyball, track. It got them involved. It's built leadership around this country. And I'm telling you what's going to happen. This transgender nonsense and the NIL at the same time is going to put Title nine and women's sports under because NIL is taking money away. You can't survive without money in athletics. And now you got transgender boys that want to participate. So it's a double whammy on. On women and girls sports. And, you know, it just. It's a. It's absolutely ashamed we're even having to talk about it.
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Buck Sexton
We're talking with Senator Tommy Tuberville. I just mentioned Bruce Pearl. He's scheduled to join us in a bit. You're an Auburn guy or Eagle. For all of our Alabama and Auburn fans out there, you coached Auburn football, which has been a long time, big winner. You had a lot of success there. Auburn basketball has not. Bruce Pearl has them two wins away from the national championship. He was just named AP Coach of the year. How big of a deal is that and how hard are you rooting for Auburn this weekend?
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Nate Silver
Very well deserved. I live in Auburn. I play golf with Bruce all the time. I was at a function with him a couple of weeks ago. He has done an amazing job of that program. I remember I got there in 99. We're decent in basketball. Couldn't hardly sell any season tickets. Now you can't get a ticket. I've got. I live in that town and I beg to get a ticket to get into a game. He has done one of the best jobs probably ever done in college athletics to get something turned around. But you got to give Kudos to the entire SEC of the athletes now that they have in basketball all across other than Kentucky used to be just Kentucky, now they all can play basketball. And Alabama almost made the Final Four and it was close. I thought they had one of the top four teams, but they didn't make it. But Auburn's in it. I'll be voting here tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't get to go to the game, but I'm looking forward to the game until. Bruce, good luck for me. I talked to him yesterday, but he's getting a little bit tight, uptight and. But that's Bruce Pearl. I mean he takes it very, very seriously.
- [34:57]
Clay Travis
Senator Tuberville, you know, Clay twice this week had to go play golf. You know, I had to be here trying to save the republic and hold together America to the best of my ability while my esteemed co host was out there on the links as one does. I don't know if you saw any video of him, but do you have any? You know, you are a phenomenal coach. That is beyond question. Can you give him any coaching on his swing? Because some people are saying some things about, about my friend Clay, about his golf swing and I feel the need to defend him. What do we have here?
- [35:28]
Nate Silver
Well, most things start out with talent. You got talent and athletic ability. You know, it. It's good that you can just play any sport and whether you're good at it or not, it takes a lot of pressure off it. You know, it's good for exercise and all that. But it all starts with athletic ability. I think he's got some. But he needs to work on it. And again, not elite.
- [35:54]
Buck Sexton
That's right, Coach, you can only it ain't the Jimmy's and the X's and those all the time. It's the Jimmy's and the Joes and I don't have. I don't have a lot of athletic ability here. When it comes to golf, my swing does not look good. I deserve all the criticism.
- [36:08]
Nate Silver
Yeah, yeah. Well, it's. You can't win a lot of games unless you have players.
- [36:13]
Clay Travis
That was not. That was not the inspiring locker room speech from Coach Tuberville that I was expecting. He's basically telling Clay that gotta leave it to the pros. Well, raise some great money for charity earlier this week for Tiddle the Towers and Senator Tuberville. Really appreciate you being with us as always. Thanks for making the time.
- [36:29]
Nate Silver
Thanks guys. Talk to you soon.
- [36:32]
Clay Travis
Okay, look, I mean, you know, we're talking about Clay swing, but I got swung at yesterday the pronunciation police.
- [36:40]
Buck Sexton
No, I need to hear this big time.
- [36:42]
Clay Travis
Bigly. Bigly pronunciation police lighting me up over how I pronounce the word that I'm now, I guess, supposed to say tournament. They say it's tournament. I say tournament. Darn it. Like torn a grip. Although maybe it's Turner grip, actually, now that I think about it, which is what I use on my tennis racket. But no matter how you pronounce the word that begins with the T there. Big weekend in sports with the Final Four in the NCAA men's basketball tournament. Whether you're watching or listening to the games this Saturday or the championship game on Monday night, make sure you have the Prize Picks app downloaded on your phone. Clay, have you given out the necessary picks or do we? Do you? You have, right? Or do we What?
- [37:20]
Buck Sexton
What? I gave out picks for the Elite Eight. I have not given out Final Four picks yet. So we may try to do that in the third hour just coming up.
- [37:28]
Clay Travis
Okay. And I will tell you, it is very sad, some people are saying, very sad that Clay is ahead of me right now in the March Madness bracket. So it turns out knowledge of these teams does mean something, which is sad for me, but I'm hoping to catch up to them. But no matter what, see, even if you know as much about NCAA sports as I do, you can have a lot of fun with the Prize Picks app. And if you want to take Clay's expertise into account, he's going to give you those picks. But Prize Picks just makes it all a lot of fun. Easy, fast withdrawals, safe and secure. It just makes watching the games more. More interesting, more entertaining. And you get your money in as quickly as 15 minutes. You can use your MasterCard, Visa, or Discover card for quick and easy deposits. Get your money quickly. Download the app today. Use my name, Buck as your code to get $50 instantly. After you play your first $5 lineup again, use code BUCK to get $50 instantly. And if you want, you can always just bet against Clay's picks. And then if you're right, you can call into the show and be like, hey, guess what? And you control him. And that's always going to be fun. No matter what you want to do, use the Prize Picks app. Use promo code Buck Prize Picks. Run your game.
- [38:33]
Buck Sexton
Stories of freedom, stories of America. Inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day, spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. You know how we're always talking about what's next. Well, I found it. It's called Formula E. Forget everything you think you know about racing. This isn't just cars going fast. It's like a supercomputer on wheels. The tech is insane. And the drivers, they're like chess grandmasters at 200 miles per hour. You've got to see it. Trust me, you'll be hooked. Follow Formula E live on Roku next race Miami, April 12 for the next four years, maybe more, the name of the game is efficiency and doing more while spending less. And I'm not talking about our government. Private sector desperate to cut unnecessary expenses while still building better products and services and beat the competition.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
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- [42:31]
Clay Travis
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed.
- [42:34]
Buck Sexton
To killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.
- [42:38]
Nate Silver
I just knew him as a kid.
- [42:40]
Buck Sexton
Long, silent voices from his past came forward, and he was just staring at me. And they had secrets of their own to share. Gilbert King I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott. I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it. Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil. I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known. If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would.
- [43:12]
Nate Silver
Have been in jail.
- [43:13]
Buck Sexton
I would have never existed.
- [43:14]
Clay Travis
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.
- [43:21]
Buck Sexton
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer. Bone Valley Season 2 Jeremy, Jeremy, I want to tell you something.
- [43:30]
Clay Travis
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- [43:49]
Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate everybody out there weighing in. We are absolutely deluged with reaction. Let me hit some of this. Let's See who is up next. I think Dustin in Wilmington, North Carolina wants to weigh in. Dustin, what you got for us?
- [44:09]
Nate Silver
Yeah, it's Justin, but that's not important. What's important is these tariffs are great for America. They're absolutely necessary. And okay, even, even if we have zero to zero tariffs, even if they're.
- [44:27]
Buck Sexton
You know, equally zero, we cannot compete with a country, say China, who's going to use slave labor where we have.
- [44:35]
Nate Silver
Minimum wage, we have Social Security contributions, they don't.
- [44:40]
Buck Sexton
They are manufacturing with coal, while here.
- [44:44]
Nate Silver
In California we've got to manufacture with Chinese windmills and solar panels. If we want jobs, if we want our middle class to be or working.
- [44:56]
Buck Sexton
Class to have money to live and.
- [44:59]
Nate Silver
To prosper if we want, our country.
- [45:02]
Buck Sexton
Has to implement these tariffs to protect the working people.
- [45:07]
Nate Silver
And the only people that are going.
- [45:08]
Buck Sexton
To lose a little bit may be.
- [45:10]
Nate Silver
The elite who have been benefiting from the working class's sacrifice and the globalist. But this is good for America.
- [45:20]
Buck Sexton
This is good for the working class of America.
- [45:23]
Nate Silver
We have to support it.
- [45:24]
Buck Sexton
Thank you for the call. Buck, Let me ask you this. I haven't heard the flip side asked very often. Why do so many of these countries have massive tariffs against the United States? Vietnam, for instance? I mean, you hear a lot of people say, oh, you can't put reciprocal tariffs on. I hear very few people analyzing it, which I think we should. From the other perspective, Vietnam should be able to produce everything that Vietnam needs inside of their country much cheaper than we could produce it by and large in the United States. Right. I mean, that's why Nike makes its shoes there. Because to the caller's point, you pay somebody to work in a factory in Vietnam, much less cost of living is much lower. Why does Vietnam have these protective tariffs?
- [46:10]
Clay Travis
Very good question. You could say, well, hold on. Vietnam, you're talking about shipping globally and it's the other side of the world, an enormously different labor, education levels, labor standard of living, all of that. Right. So that's one part of this. But also you look at Canada next door, Canada had something like a 200% tariff on American dairy.
- [46:32]
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
- [46:33]
Clay Travis
Why would they do that? Why aren't, why weren't we giving them lectures about how self defeating it is for them to have this 200%. Now, maybe this is about cronyism and political constituencies. That's perhaps an answer, meaning that the dairy farmers along the border in Canada, because everybody as we know, lives along the U.S. canada border. Who lives in Canada. They wouldn't have any industry without these Tariffs. But then you ask, well, why do they have so much political sway that everybody else has to pay more for milk? Is that, is that a choice that the Canadian people want to make?
- [47:05]
Buck Sexton
That's a great question. Why do all these tariffs exist if all of them are worthless? And I think the milk idea is a good one, because theoretically, Canadians could have much cheaper American milk, and instead they're willing to pay more to try to give the Canadian dairy farmers.
- [47:20]
Clay Travis
Here's the other part of it is, is Vietnam being used as essentially a cutout for Chinese companies to operate their factories and get around some of the restrictions we have in China? Would not be hard to do. Would not be hard to figure this out.
- [47:39]
Buck Sexton
So this is the game of whack a mole. We know that China has done that with Mexico. They have moved many of their factories to Mexico to produce Chinese goods there. So they can then bring them in without the tariffs. The other thing, by the way, buck on the. Like Nike, for instance, making its shoes in Vietnam. You and I know this because we have a business. We're shipping coffee all over the country. Can you imagine how much the shipping cost must be to get all that Nike gear from Vietnam to the United States? I mean, also, people tell me about.
- [48:13]
Clay Travis
Labor costs all the time. Is it really that hard to have an American factory that's largely automated? We're just, we're a couple of years out from having Tesla robots making our omelets in the morning. You're going to tell us it's really that hard to onshore a lot of this production? It's not just about jobs. There's also about supply chain and productivity and the national security side of it. But Clay, you mentioned an amazing company before. What was the name of it? Crockett Coffee.
- [48:34]
Buck Sexton
Crockett Coffee, yes, Crockett Coffee. You should go use code book. You get an autographed copy of my book. But I'll tell you, crockettcoffee.com we're shipping and bringing this all to you from Green Bay, Wisconsin, by the way, is where our supplier is based, where our coffee is brought together. For all of you. Let me ask you this question. A lot of you out there probably have that question. You know, our biggest expense, basically shipping. I, as I look at all this, all this product that's being created all around the world, it makes makes me wonder on the Nike front, how much money could they save just by making their product in the country? It's really kind of interesting. But anyway, if you love coffee, Crockett Coffee.com, code book for an autographed copy. Get signed up today. Best coffee in America. You know how we're always talking about what's next? Well, I found it. It's called Formula E. Forget everything you think you know about racing. This isn't just cars going fast. It's like a supercomputer on wheels. The tech is insane, and the drivers, they're like chess grandmasters at 200 miles per hour. You've got to see it. Trust me, you'll be hooked. Follow Formula E live on Roku. Next Race, Miami, April 12th. I'm Nate Silver.
- [49:55]
Nate Silver
And I'm Maria Konnikova.
- [49:56]
Buck Sexton
On our podcast Risky Business, we talk everything from politics to poker and from betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. Sports bettors need a bit more street smarts because there's this whole second side to sports betting of how do you actually. How do you get your money down good if people think that you're a winning better? And now that March Madness is upon us, we're talking bracket strategies, odds, how to maybe actually win your office pool. You can listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [50:27]
Clay Travis
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed.
- [50:31]
Buck Sexton
To killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one. Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
- [50:39]
Clay Travis
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
- [50:44]
Buck Sexton
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
- [50:46]
Clay Travis
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the.
- [50:51]
Buck Sexton
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.