Hour 2 - Sleeper Cell Citizens

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 - Sleeper Cell Citizens
Date: March 27, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This episode features Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delivering their trademark blend of political analysis, cultural commentary, and humor. Topics include the ongoing immigration debate (“sleeper cell citizens”), intra-Democratic rivalries between Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom, the role of Elon Musk in the free speech landscape, war policy divisions among conservatives, and lively debates on food preferences, with guest appearance by radio host Jesse Kelly. Listener interactions and tangential debates (such as whether reptiles can love) add levity alongside the pressing current events.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Political News Rundown & House-Senate Showdown on TSA Funding

• Discussion: The episode opens with news about President Trump engaging a group of farmers at the White House and legislative gridlock over a Senate-passed TSA funding bill.
• Trump's Emergency Powers: Trump vows to pay TSA using emergency powers amidst airport chaos, with Democrats likely to challenge this legally.
• Legislative Dynamics: The House GOP prepares to introduce its own version of the bill instead of approving the Senate-passed one.
  • (00:02 - 01:15)

2. The Kamala Harris vs. Gavin Newsom Democratic Rivalry

• Kamala’s 2028 Presidential Prospects: Clay jokes about a running bet with Buck on Kamala Harris's future presidential run.
• Gavin Newsom's Media Comments: Newsom calls Elon Musk one of the "great disappointments," suggesting he is ceding the EV space to China.
  • Notable quote (Gavin Newsom):
    “He’s going to allow the greatest on goal… one of the most significant on goals in the next decade is ceding the EV space to China.” — (02:16)
• Kamala vs. Newsom Narrative: The hosts question whether Newsom and Harris actually dislike each other or are simply political “reptiles,” devoid of real feeling.
  • Buck Sexton on Newsom:
    “Gavin Newsom, his brain operates like a reptile brain. Is it, is it too hot or too cold where I am? I need food. He’s pure amygdala.” — (07:39)
• Reptile Analogy Tangent: Leads to humorous speculation about whether reptiles (or politicians) are capable of love.
  • (01:24 - 11:45)

3. Elon Musk and Free Speech: Rogan vs. Newsom

• Newsom vs. Rogan: Contrasting audio clips from Gavin Newsom criticizing Musk and Joe Rogan praising him for defending free speech via Twitter/X.
  • Joe Rogan (notable quote):
    “History will go back and look at his purchasing Twitter… it has changed the course of communication in this country for the better.” — (03:48)
• Hosts’ Perspective: Strong agreement with Rogan’s assessment; credit Musk (and Trump) with expanding the parameters of public discourse and free speech.
  • “We have a more free speech, tolerant culture now online than we have had in my whole life.” — Buck Sexton (05:43)
• Elon as Capitalist: Clay lauds Musk as potentially the most successful capitalist ever.
  • (02:54 - 06:32)

4. Call-In Segment: “Sleeper Cell Citizens” & Immigration

• Caller Dimitri’s Take: Predicts Democrats will push to integrate 20+ million undocumented immigrants digitally, fast-tracking them toward citizenship to grow their voter base.
  • Caller (Dimitri):
    “They're going to have one shot of 20 million people injected into the system and that's their voting base.” — (12:33)
• Hosts’ Response: Clay and Buck characterize the Democrats’ approach as cultivating “sleeper cell citizens”—undocumented residents who will, at the right moment, be given citizenship for electoral advantage.
  • “They are being incredibly duplicitous long term… at some point… they’re going to flip the switch and say these people all need to be citizens.” — Clay Travis (13:49)
  • (12:33 - 14:47)

5. Listener Engagement & Lighthearted Banter

A. Reptiles & Pets

• Listener calls prompt debate: Can reptiles feel affection? Research into lizards and pet bonding is discussed with skepticism and humor, including geckos and tortoises.
  • Clay Travis:
    “Would a turtle be able to have love? I don’t know.” — (11:45)
  • (16:13 - 18:20, plus previous)

B. Food Controversies: Potato Chips in Ice Cream

• Jesse Kelly's Culinary Advice: Jesse recommends barbecue potato chips in vanilla ice cream, sparking ridicule.
  • Clay Travis:
    “I've never even heard of such a thing. It's barbaric.” — (20:03)
  • Buck Sexton:
    “This is like a crime against humanity.” — (19:41)
  • (19:01 - 21:12)

6. Intra-Conservative Debates: War with Iran

• Caller Concern: Questions why not all conservatives support military intervention in Iran and references Tucker Carlson’s opposition.
• Hosts’ Defense: Both acknowledge divisions, highlight figures like Rand Paul and Tucker Carlson as anti-interventionists, but note most Trump supporters trust his judgment on Iran.
  • Buck Sexton:
    “I know a lot more about the Middle East than Tucker does… So who do you want me to have on that’s going to explain something to you or take a position that we’re not covering here?” — (23:11)
  • (21:52 - 25:33)

C. “Granny” Debate & Audience Relations

• Listener Objection: Caller objects to the term “granny” for older female fans.
• Hosts’ Humor: Lighthearted discussion follows about preferred grandparent nicknames and their “appeal” to the grandmother demographic.
  • (25:46 - 26:54)

D. “Pit Bull/AR-15” Analogy

• Listener and Hosts Revisit: Listeners largely agree with Buck's analogy that pit bulls, like AR-15s, require more responsibility than other types (breeds or weapons). Discussion notes defensive backlash, cult-like defense of pit bulls, and common-sense ethos of their audience.
  • Buck Sexton:
    “We never go nuts. A lot of common sense.” — (29:10)
  • (27:25 - 29:14)

7. Jesse Kelly Joins, Food Wars Escalate

• Guest Segment: Jesse Kelly, dubbed the “menu whisperer,” defends the potato-chips-in-ice-cream combination as a classic salty/sweet juxtaposition and touts Red Lobster as the top chain restaurant.
  • Jesse Kelly (defending sweet/salty combo):
    “Just because Clay was never forward thinking enough to crumble up potato chips in his ice cream, doesn’t mean he gets to… take petty shots at me as he eats Brussels sprouts and mashed potatoes, looking down his nose at real Americans who actually know what flavor is.” — (31:38)
• Red Lobster vs. Chick Fil A:
  • Jesse Kelly: Red Lobster’s Cheddar Bay biscuits and shrimp scampi are “heaven” (34:17)
  • Clay Travis: Chick Fil A is the superior chain every time (33:48)
• Menu Challenge: Jesse gives a detailed “menu whisperer” order for Chick Fil A, impressing the hosts with specificity.
  • Jesse Kelly:
    “Spicy chicken sandwich meal. Drop the pickles. Add American cheese. Two or three ranch cups. Waffle fries – extra crispy if you can. Vanilla milkshake.” — (35:07)
• On Whether Reptiles Can Love:
  • Jesse Kelly:
    “I think they have to be able to love because otherwise they’d never be able to reproduce. There’s no way crocodiles are actually attracted to other crocodiles unless there’s some form of love attached.” — (36:21)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buck Sexton (on Newsom):
  “Gavin Newsom… his brain operates like a reptile brain. Is it too hot or too cold where I am? I need food.” (07:39)

• Joe Rogan (on Elon Musk):
  “History will go back and look at his purchasing Twitter… it has changed the course of communication in this country for the better.” (03:48)

• Clay Travis (on “sleeper cell citizens”):
  “I think Democrats let in all of these illegals almost as sleeper cell citizens… when the political world is more favorable… they’re going to flip the switch and say these people all need to be citizens.” (13:49)

• Jesse Kelly (on potato chips in ice cream):
  “The combination of salty and sweet is one of the great combinations in the history of mankind...” (31:38)

• Clay Travis:
  “Would a turtle be able to have love? I don’t know.” (11:45)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:02-01:24: Political open — Trump, TSA, House/Senate standoff
• 02:16-07:13: Newsom on Musk, Harris/Newsom rivalry, “own goal” discussion
• 03:48-04:23: Joe Rogan praises Musk’s Twitter purchase
• 07:35-11:45: “Reptile Brain” analogies for Newsom, pet love debate
• 12:33-14:47: Caller Dimitri on Democrat “sleeper cell citizens” and immigration
• 16:13-18:20: Guest preview, research on lizards bonding with humans
• 19:01-21:18: Jesse Kelly’s controversial ice cream advice, McAllister’s Deli
• 21:52-25:33: Discussion of conservative views on Iran, Tucker Carlson’s opposition
• 25:46-26:54: “Granny” nickname response
• 27:25-29:14: Pit bull/AR-15 analogy revisited
• 31:13-36:44: Jesse Kelly segment: menu wars, chain restaurant debate, reptiles and love

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Final Thoughts

This hour offers a signature Clay and Buck mix: sharp political critique (immigration, intra-left rivalries), defenses of controversial figures (Musk), robust audience engagement, and playful, culturally resonant banter (culinary “crimes” and interspecies affection). Even as they address serious topics like war and immigration, the hosts keep the mood lively and relatable, providing a conversational atmosphere that balances hard news with humor and audience participation.

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Transcript

[Host]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Clay Travis]

Guaranteed human welcome in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. President Trump speaking at the White House right now with a large collection of farmers. We are expecting the House to reject the bill that was passed by the Senate. Remember President Trump. A lot of flurry of activity yesterday as it pertains to tsa. President Trump said he would pay TSA under his emergency powers, saying it is an emergency right now. What is going on at the airport? I think Democrats would be likely to challenge Trump's authority legally to do that if it were to happen. Around 3am A bill passed the Senate. It is now in the House and the House GOP is expected to put forward their own bill rather than ratify the bill that has been passed by the Senate. For those of you that are following along with all of the stories there now, I did want to have a little bit of fun, Buck. This was on the sheet yesterday and we didn't get to it. But for all of you out there that are not aware, Buck is going to have to buy me another state because Kamala Harris is going to run for president of the United States in 2028.

[Buck Sexton]

And I this one's not going to

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

come in a gold case with a light show, by the way. It's, you know, I, I got to

[Buck Sexton]

renovate my kitchen here.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

So we're going to have to, this

[Buck Sexton]

is going to be a little more

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

of a, you know, Outback Steakhouse kind of an outing.

[Clay Travis]

So Kamala and Gavin Newsome have been squaring off in public and this was an interview, I believe, that Gavin Newsom did with Axios. And there are a couple of things that stand out about this that I thought were worthy of discussing. The first is Gavin Newsom. We've got a contrary take on this. The first is Gavin Newsom said that Elon Musk is one of the great disappointments of this era. That's a tough argument to make, but I'll let Gavin Newsom make it. Cut 21 one of the great disappointments,

[Gavin Newsom (quoted)]

one of our, one of the great innovators of our time, Zettison of our time. It breaks my heart. I was the first and, you know, one of the first Teslas off the line. I've been one of their biggest proponents, supporters was regulation in California that created the conditions that allowed him to take the risk to become the multi billionaire, maybe trillionaire that he's become. But right now he's allowing and I think this is Trump, not just Elon Musk, he's going to allow the greatest on goal he in. I think one of the most significant on goals in the next decade is ceding the EV space to China.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

He means own goal. Right? He kept saying on goal.

[Clay Travis]

I think he said, I was listening to that too. I love that you heard a sports reference. His voice sounds like he's sick or something the way that he was talking. But it sounds like he's not saying own goal. For those of you who don't know, you can probably figure it out. But one of the greatest flaws in soccer would be to score yourself on your own team a so called own goal when you knock it into your own net inadvertently. Unless you're, you know, shaving points then. But so that's one of the great flaws now. I thought this was interesting, Buck. Joe Rogan simultaneously making the exact opposite argument that Elon Musk is actually one of the most important figures historically when it comes to communications in this country. Cut 20.

[Joe Rogan (quoted)]

Listen, if it wasn't for Elon Musk, we would be. I've said this before, I'll say it again. History will go back and look at his purchasing Twitter and it, it has changed the course of communication in this country for the better. I know a lot of you thought, oh my God, the racism is up and all this stuff is up. That's people, that's the Internet. That is an accurate representation, representation of people. It's not good, but it's also accurate. And the only way that's going to change is if the other voices are more compelling. And at least now they have an opportunity to do that.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, so I do think, I think he's right, Buck. I bet you would sign on as well.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Strong agree on that first part. It has enormously benefited actual, meaningful free speech for Elon Musk.

[Buck Sexton]

I can't say it enough. I'm not, I don't like to do,

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

you know, butt kissing. I'm not somebody that's like, oh, what

[Buck Sexton]

he did is incredible.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

It has benefited the country enormously. And you know, he's, he's the most impressive entrepreneur and business visionary of our era on top of doing more for free speech than the only person who maybe has done as much for free speech in our lifetime is Donald Trump.

[Buck Sexton]

It's really those two guys.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I would argue Trump has expanded the Overton window such that you actually now

[Buck Sexton]

can clay you remember back in the

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

day like a decade ago or so. You could go back.

[Buck Sexton]

Every conservative commentator can tell you you had to always operate in this realm

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

of are you going to get in trouble for something you said? Are you going to get in trouble for something you said?

[Buck Sexton]

Are they going to create some digital

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

lynch mob that's going to come for

[Buck Sexton]

you and demand that your sponsors flee and everything else?

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

That crap doesn't really happen the same way anymore.

[Buck Sexton]

It really just doesn't. And it's such a benefit to the

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

country that people have more.

[Buck Sexton]

We have a more free speech, tolerant

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

culture now online than we have had

[Buck Sexton]

in my whole life.

[Clay Travis]

It's 100% correct. And I think Elon deserves a tremendous amount of that credit. I think he is the most successful capitalist of all time. I believe Buck, he's already a trillionaire because when SpaceX announces that it's going to go public, he will officially be a trillionaire. But based on what the valuations look like, I, I think he's already there. Now I mentioned as the lead in the Kamala Harris bet that Tron that Buck's going to lose over whether Kamala is going to run or not. The back and forth between Kamala and Newsom continues and he wasn't happy. Gavin Newsom wasn't with how she portrayed him in her book. Again, this is from the axios interview. Cut 22.

[Interviewer]

So former Vice President Kamala Harris, why don't you guys like each other?

[Gavin Newsom (quoted)]

A preposterous premise of a question. Because we absolutely do.

[Interviewer]

Well, she took a shot at you in her book. You didn't speak at her convention. I mean, we can even go back to the San Francisco days, her and Guilfoyle. I mean, no, there seems to be something there.

[Gavin Newsom (quoted)]

No, quite the contrary. I introduced her at the convention. It was even more personal. She gave me a little shot as it relates to the actual truth of the the walk I was on. And I remember texting her back. I said, come on, I've already put out a statement supporting you, the last person you need to talk to. But for whatever reason she added that and I think it graded some color for the book.

[Clay Travis]

They really. Do you believe that they do not like each other or do you think they are fine with each other? Like what is you said yesterday earlier this week that you think Gavin Newsom is such a sociopath that he doesn't even care if his own father in law moves to Florida. That if that's the case then he clearly can't care about Kamala Harris at all.

[Buck Sexton]

I think my father in law take was a strong take and I think

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

no question in my mind. Same thing with Kamala. Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom, his brain operates like a reptile brain. Is it, is it too hot or

[Buck Sexton]

too cold where I am?

[Clay Travis]

I need food.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

You know, he's pure. What is it? The amygdala? He's pure amygdala.

[Buck Sexton]

Whatever is in his immediate benefit and

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

meets his immediate needs is where Gavin Newsom will go. So if Kamala Harris is in his

[Buck Sexton]

way, she's the enemy. If Kamala Harris being friends with her

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

makes him look more pro women, particularly pro minority women.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, you know, whatever.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

We could sketch all this out. Then he is very pro Kamala. But personal feelings, I don't know if

[Buck Sexton]

he's even capable of personal feelings. I don't know. You know, it's like you mentioned a pet, a pet alligator. It's like, can an alligator ever love you? I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

I'm not sure.

[Buck Sexton]

We'd have to talk to some people that have really handled reptiles a lot. Can, can a reptile feel affection for you the way that a mammal can? I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

That's a great question. I, I, I never even really thought about how much reptiles.

[Buck Sexton]

By the way, not a lot of people came for me on the pitbull take. A lot of people. Cause I think it's a pretty nuanced take, actually. I'm not anti pitbull.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I'm just, you need to, you know, you're carrying around a loaded AR15, you're not carrying a BB gun.

[Buck Sexton]

I got like 5 to 1 people agreeing with me, which I was a little surprised.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Maybe that's just a confirmation bias for some reason in my inbox. But that was the not, you know,

[Buck Sexton]

again, because I know that there are sweet dogs of every breed, but some

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

dogs are bigger problems than others.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's a good analogy. I mean, you know, a BB gun versus an AR15, one can do more damage. I mean, you can make it kind of for any context, right? Like a big wheel. You don't have to be as worried about running into a wall as you would if you're driving a Ferrari. I mean, you know, there are just different rates of speed that lead to different dangers.

[Buck Sexton]

I take people to the range.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I take first timers, the range. I'm not good enough to like, I have friends who are competition shooters and

[Buck Sexton]

all that, but I'm very solid now

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

at taking people, I'm licensed to do it here. Taking people to the range and giving them like a first range day experience if they've really never shot before. And I can just tell you if

[Buck Sexton]

I have somebody with a bolt action

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

22 on the line. Particularly if someone's like, younger. You know, if someone's like a, you know, in their teenage years, are there with dad. I've taken a teenage friend of mine with his dad. You know, they've.

[Buck Sexton]

You get the.22 going, you're like, okay, you know, you got to be on target all the. You can still die from a.22.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Right? It's not that.

[Buck Sexton]

But if I take somebody, because I have had friends with FFLs who have

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

fully automatic weapons, and I put them on the line with a squad automatic weapon, Clay, which fires at a very rapid rate of speed, full auto. It has a lot more movement and everything else I'm paying closer attention.

[Buck Sexton]

You know what I mean?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

So I'll even say that both of those are lethal situations in the sense

[Clay Travis]

you have to be careful.

[Buck Sexton]

These are both firearms, but one firearm, you really gotta pay attention. Right.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

And that's how I view the dog thing.

[Buck Sexton]

Not to get in the dog conversation, but I think Gavin Newsom is not even a canine. I think he's a reptile. I have brought this full circle one.

[Clay Travis]

Whatever.

[Buck Sexton]

Whatever brings him lunch that day is what he wants.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

That's all.

[Clay Travis]

He really got me thinking about whether reptiles can be loving. Now, I. I never really had thought about it, but is there a reptile that is supremely lovable, cuddly? I. I don't know. I'm not a snake guy. I don't.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I think that their brains are not capable of that level of connection, is my thought. But we probably have people who are going to say, you know, I had a pet gecko.

[Buck Sexton]

Pet birds can definitely bond with.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

The birds are way smarter than a lot of people. Like the whole notion of bird brain. Crows are freakishly smart. I mean, there are.

[Buck Sexton]

There are bird.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

There are great African Grey Parrots. Some of these pets that people have can last. These pet birds can last 4050 years. And they know people and they have favorites and people they don't like. So birds definitely can bond very tightly with people.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't think.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I don't think reptiles get a.

[Buck Sexton]

If any reptile owners want to let. Want to let me in on this or let me know, I will say the alligator whisperer that I.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

That I went out with here, though the alligators knew him and they came out and were very kind of curious about him in a way that seemed like they recognized him.

[Clay Travis]

So would a turtle be able to have love? I don't know.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the real question on the Clay buckshot. We're trying to fix the Iran war and the economy, but also thinking like

[Clay Travis]

I've never really thought through, can reptiles love their owners? We were making a joke yesterday about, you know, somebody who raises, let's say an alligator from, you know, the, the time when it's a baby until the time. I mean, I think they can have familiarity, but, you know, a dog or a cat, I think they would be capable of loving an owner. Dogs more than cats. But sorry, cat people. It is a really good question. Dimitri in Houston. Let me try to get a call in here before we finish the segment. Dimitri, what you got for us guys?

[Caller]

Quick. The Democrats will fight tooth and nail to integrate this 20 million or 25 legal or illegal or migrants digitally. They're going to try to integrate them into our society because everything is digital for bank account, for direct payments. Even Western Union implemented the stablecoin as a choice of digital currency transactions. Blockchain. They're going to argue that, hey, we're going to need to collect FICA taxes, so let's put them under the payroll where they're going to need to pay for Social Security. They'll open 401ks, they will contribute to the tax payment system, disability insurance, Social Security. They're going to come up with 100 different excuses. But if you do the statistics, it takes about six years to have 4 million people born in the United States and another 18 to become legally capable to vote. So instead of them waiting five years plus 18, they're going to have one shot of 20 million people injected into the system and that's their voting base. So that's the platform they're running. They're going to need that voting base because everyone is abandoning their ideology, I think.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you for the call, Dimitri. I think you're 100% right. Look, the one way to think about this is I think Democrats let in all of these illegals almost as sleeper cell citizens because they're here. And at some point in time, having created this mess, they're going to say Democrats are, we can't have 20 million constant people living here who are not citizens. We have to give them all a pathway to citizenship, a form of amnesty. And so they are being incredibly duplicitous long term in terms of what arguments they are making with the idea being at some point when the political world is more favorable to the argument, they're going to flip the switch and say these people all need to be citizens and they see it as an opportunity to bring in additional millions of voters. I think Dimitri is right. I don't think there's any doubt at all about that.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

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[Narrator/Promoter]

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[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We have a guest coming up at some point during the show. Clay, who's the guest?

[Buck Sexton]

Don't we have a fabulous guest?

[Clay Travis]

Or am I imagining we have two? In the third hour of the program, Florida's Attorney General James with Meyer is going to be with us. And then at 2:30, Mike Baker. So double guess.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I would like to ask the, I'd like to ask the attorney general also about some of these videos that are going around of a, of an influencer perhaps illegally discharging a firearm or rather discharging it in a manner that is, that is problematic legally. We'll see because that happened in Florida. If you're looking all over the video all over online right now, it's going viral. And it also involves wildlife, possibly. Speaking of wildlife, we get a lot of people writing in. Hold on, here we go. People writing in.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh no, this is research from our team.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Lizards.

[Buck Sexton]

Can they, can they bond with humans?

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Schneider's skinks. I've never heard of a skink before, have you?

[Clay Travis]

No, I don't even know what that is.

[Buck Sexton]

These are the top five lizards that

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

bond with humans according to our team here. Tegu lizards, large snakes. Guys, come on. I'm throwing a flag.

[Buck Sexton]

Snakes don't bond.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

You're food. You're a food source or you're food yourself.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't buy it.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I'm sorry.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm anti snake.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Monitor lizards. Interesting. And iguanas. Interesting.

[Buck Sexton]

And what about geckos?

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

They can also get you great deal on on car insurance.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, they can. Did you see? Tortoises are super popular pets buck, but they live for over 100 years. So they're the few one of maybe the only pet that outlives their owners. Not to be morbid today, but maybe they can.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

That just went in quite a direction. Okay, look. The Jewish faith has one of their bigger holidays coming up next week. Passover starts next Tuesday in Israel. There's a good chance this holiday will be observed in darkness under the shadow of war. It's likely we'll see more sporadic missiles and drone attacks this coming week across Israel. Air raid sirens and phone apps continue to inform residents to seek protection in bomb shelters.

[Buck Sexton]

That's why the International Fellowship of Christians

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

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[Clay Travis]

I think we can dive into some of those again. Got a couple of guests coming

[Jesse Kelly]

of

[Clay Travis]

the program and let's see. Let's start with talk Back. A, I believe. I think we got A, B, C and D. I think we can hit them all. Let's start with A. I've had potato

[Caller]

chips on a sandwich and it's okay. It's hard. It's hard to have potato chips ever be bad. But if you want a little tidbit, here's a little tidbit from Jesse. Just trust me. You gotta trust me. Trust the menu whisperer on something. Forget about the sandwich. Crumble up some potato chips, even barbecue chips. Put them in vanilla ice cream. Put them in your ice cream.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

That is radio host Jesse Kelly. Now I'm going to tell you guys this.

[Buck Sexton]

We don't do this thing of fighting

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

with people on the right.

[Buck Sexton]

We don't do the podcast wars or the bro pod fights or any of that stuff. But, Clay, I think. I think this is a shot that just has to be answered. Jesse is telling his audience to crumble up barbecue potato chips and put it in vanilla ice cream. This is like a crime against humanity.

[Clay Travis]

I've never even heard of such a thing. It's barbaric. I mean, I don't know. This is the kind of thing that I would expect an Ohio State fan to come up with. Just doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever. Ah, it's nasty. Now, I will say I had potato chips on my sandwich from McAllister's Deli recently, and I hope McAllister's Deli is not going to soon be considering sponsoring this program. But I've been very anti McAllister's Deli for about 15 years, because to me, when you go into a deli, it should be fast. And every time I go into McAllister's Deli, I'm there for nine hours. And then they finally give me a deli sandwich. And doesn't seem like it should take that long, but I had one with potato chips on it the other day. Laura brought it home because she loves the McAllister's Deli place. It was amazing. But the ice cream, I think this. Is this a bridge too far?

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Jesse Kelly might have to come on and explain himself with this.

[Buck Sexton]

First of all, he calls himself the menu whisperer. And then he's telling us to crumble up even bar like. Like the potato chips, maybe barbecue potato chips into your ice cream. I think I might have someone committed

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

if I saw them do this.

[Buck Sexton]

It would be like watching Joe Biden walk around without any pants on in the Oval Office. Like, what's going on?

[Clay Travis]

I've been at many meals now with Jesse. I've never been impressed with his orders. I'm gonna be honest with you. And you know, when a member of the Brussels sprouts controversy of 2024, the summer of 2024, I'm still right. And he's shown up and ordered $75 shots. So I actually think he's not a good orderer. And he's trying to cover up for the fact. Aubrey, his wife, I trust her orders way more than I would his. I'm not even sure he's the best order in his family. Okay, so that's shots across the bow for Jesse. Cut B. What is up next? Fire away.

[Caller]

These are talking some conservatives who do not support this war with Iran, such as myself, I think Tucker Carlson gives some good reasons not to support what is going on right now, especially boots on the ground. I'd like to hear you say something about this, since you and Buck are not going to die.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Well, sure.

[Clay Travis]

First of all, let me say this. You and I are going to die. I hope not for a long time and I hope because of violent causes. But she's wrong, Bucket. I wish I was immortal. You and I are, in fact, going to die. Now, what do we say? We said we started off the show today talking about the fact that there's about 10% of Trump supporters that are opposed to the war in Iran and 90% of you trust Trump to figure out a way to get it done. I think, I think we've given the 10% pretty fair, pretty fair space on the program to make a case for what they believe should happen.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Honestly, we just had Rand Paul on recently. You want to talk about somebody who's opposed to adamant military. Military. He's opposed to the strikes on the boats, which another one just happened, I think, earlier this week. Didn't even get reported on really, because so many other things happening. But, you know, we read everything, so we're aware of what's going on even if we don't have the time to talk about it. Who would be the conservative you want to have on? Tucker warned that World War three would break out if the strikes happened on the nuclear facility last June. That was wrong. And again, I'm just, it just wasn't accurate. He's, of course, entitled to his opinion. And, you know, we've always gotten along Clan. I've always gotten along very well with Tucker. It's not any, not any shade, but if you're asking me what the analysis is or who you want, who you want us to have on. What. Who do you want us to have on? I mean, give us like the names of somebody that you would like to hear on, on the program because I think that would be a more helpful. And then we can assess like, is this someone who actually, you know, I know a lot more about the Middle east than Tucker does. He's a very smart guy, but that's just the reality of our experiences. So who do you want me to have on that's going to explain something to you or take a position that, that we're not covering here? We don't know. Let us know, let us know what that would be and how that is. I think that would be interesting to be sure. I mean, Clay, who do you. Who is, who is a, who is actually a Trump supporter right now? I'm not talking about pod bro comedians who supported Trump for five minutes when it was popular socially online. I mean, who are people who have really supported Trump on this, who not

[Buck Sexton]

have questions about the war, but are adamantly.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Tucker's very opposed to it.

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

He's on the record with that. I'm trying to think of who else is really, you know,

[Clay Travis]

I don't even know. I don't even know who the other person, by the way.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm not trying to stammer because I

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

really just can't think of somebody who is a very pro Trump voice and

[Buck Sexton]

consistently, again, I don't want to hear about.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Oh, just in this last election, like,

[Buck Sexton]

if you're somebody who's doing stand up

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

one minute and the next minute you're like lecturing me in the Middle East. I don't care what you, you just don't know very much. I don't care what you have to say about it. I'm aware of the opinions of, you know, no, no wars are good. No intervention is good. I'm, you know, Noam Chomsky has a similar point of view. There are people that have been saying this for a long time. No, American wars are good. Other wars they'll excuse.

[Buck Sexton]

So, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm open to it, though.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I'm just trying to think of who it would be.

[Buck Sexton]

We're gonna have Ted Cruz on here. He'll be like, you guys are way not supportive enough of this war. I mean, you know, who are we, who are we gonna have on? That's.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, we haven't had Lindsey Graham on. I mean, he would be like, hey, we should go to war with everybody. But again, the only thing I would say is I wish you were right, but we are, in fact going to die. C. Who is up next? Talk back.

[Caller]

C. Buck, Buck, Buck. I have a bone to pick with you. I'm a 64 year old granny, but I do not like that term. So let's find a new one. When you're talking about the older ladies, the more seasoned ladies who find Clay

[Clay Travis]

attractive, well, I love everything about this call because she loves me and she's got a bone to pick with you. So having said that, I never have thought of granny as an offensive term.

[Buck Sexton]

My nephew calls my mom granny. So I don't know what to say about this.

[Clay Travis]

I.

[Buck Sexton]

But maybe, maybe some of the grannies who, you know, feel a little frisky after, you know, A little whispering angel at a clay event. You know, maybe they don't want to be called granny. They just want to be called a seasoned lady Grandma.

[Clay Travis]

Nana. I'm trying to think of what my kids call grandma's grandma, which is. I would say the standard nana is a choice.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm starting to think, you know, Laura might have to throw a couple of hip checks at some walkers here or something. You know, I might have to kind of divert some of these ladies, keep their paws off a good old clay look.

[Clay Travis]

It's hard to be this lovable for the. For the grandmothers of America, but I'm here for all of you. I will say I. Well, my boys are not old enough yet. I've got an 18, 15, 11 year old. But I have occasionally started to think, what would I want to be called when hopefully years into the future, I become a grandpa? Like, what is. Is there a unique phrase? I mean, that seems like kind of a fun thing. You get to pick what the grandkids are going to call you. D Talk back.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

D On the top.

[Host]

I don't understand why you are so surprised that most people agree with your analogy with the pit bulls and the AR15. Because the majority of the audience that listen to you have common sense, and of course they're going to agree with you. I am an owner of Pitbulls, so I completely understand where you're coming from, and I totally get. Get it. And most people do because they have common sense.

[Clay Travis]

I actually agree. I think this audience is just layered with tons of common sense. Let's go.

[Buck Sexton]

Wait, wait, real quick. Clay. Excuse me.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

I would like to respond to Patty because she's. She's, you know, she's making a. Making some claims here, and she's saying that what I'm saying is true. So I appreciate that. I have come across in my life, and particularly in my public life commentary, I have come across very vociferous and kind of aggressive defenders of the pit bull breed who will. Who will start to say crazy things like pitbull. A pit bull is no more dangerous than a golden retriever. That's crazy. But the people will say this stuff. And there's a little bit of a

[Buck Sexton]

cult of the cult of the pit bull among some people because they look

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

at them as maligned. It's not fair and everything else. Again, I have known very sweet pities. I've known them and I. And they're very. But I also know that you have to be more in control and treat them differently than you would a smaller or less powerful breed of dog, powerful jaws as well as, you know, just overall. But yes, other than that, Patty, totally, totally agree with you. And yes, this audience does, does have, I mean of course they have common sense. They listen to this show which is basically a giant common sense town hall

[Buck Sexton]

where we notice how we never go really nuts here. Like there are some other shows that

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

they're good on some things and they go nuts. We never go nuts. A lot of common sense. Go ahead now.

[Clay Travis]

No, a lot of common sense coming from Will in Wisconsin. Will, what you got for us?

[Caller]

Kelly coming in on his culinary high horse pun, very much intended. Isn't he the guy that would eat shrimp and bankrupt his favorite restaurant, Red Lobster?

[Clay Travis]

True. Will's right. For those of you who don't know, Jesse Kelly claims to have perfect menu taste and his favorite restaurant in the world is Red Lobster. Now I'm not trying to cast aspersions upon Red Lobster, but it is nowhere near the finest of the chain restaurants that are available to many of you on a day to day basis. In fact, I'll come back and tell you what the best chain restaurant is. And we don't get paid by any of them. Just that Jesse's wrong. But first I want to tell you what you can be right about. And that is Cozy Earth. They have unbelievable, incredible opportunities for all of you right now with every product under the sun. All you have to do is go check them out and you are going to absolutely be blown away. Whether it's Cozy Earth sheets, whether it's the bedding, whether it's the blankets, you are going to absolutely love these purchases. Risk free 100 day money back guarantee in addition to a 10 year warranty because they want you totally satisfied. Cozyearth.com My Name Clay. For 20% off that's cozyearth.com 20% off everything. Promo code clay cozyearth.com C O Z Y earth.com My Name Clay. Get hooked up today. That's cozyearth.com stories of freedom, stories of America.

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[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Let it not be said that we take shots here on Clay and Buck then run and hide.

[Buck Sexton]

Jesse Kelly apparently got word that Clay had some thoughts about Jesse's menu whisperer status. Mr. Jesse Kelly, Premier radio host, joins us himself. Sir, I think you've heard some of these allegations. What say you about the potato chips ice cream controversy?

[Jesse Kelly]

Well, I wish I could Tell you, I was surprised, Buck, that Mr. Orders Brussels sprouts, thinks that it's bad to somehow put potatoes on ice cream. But let me just inform Clay of something that every single person listening knows. Something that Reese's Peanut Butter Cups figured out long ago. And Snickers and everything else. The combination of salty and sweet is one of the great combinations in the history of mankind. Just because Clay was never forward thinking enough to crumble up potato chips in his ice cream, does it mean he gets to sit there and take petty shots at me as he eats Brussels sprouts and mashed potatoes, looking down his nose at real Americans who actually know what flavor is? That's what I have to say.

[Caller]

You.

[Clay Travis]

You were just saying the combination of salty and sweet is great. This makes sense since you were a Kamala Harris voter. That's good. That's good. Some of you out there, I. Now I know why you were a white dude for Harris. Jesse. It all makes sense now.

[Jesse Kelly]

Look, I admit I did not vote for Kamala Harris. I was an enthusiastic Donald Trump supporter. However, when I think about how dumb she was in the incredible sound bites we would have had for four years. Look, for my country, I'm very happy we don't have President Dom for my radio show. I am very sad we don't have President Dom because every day she would have been giving us some kind of word salad gobbledygook answer. I don't know if you guys saw the story and I'm going to mess up the name. So I'm not even going to try to name it that she did a podcast. It didn't come out, I don't think till yesterday. I didn't see it. She did a podcast, Recorded a podcast when she was running for president and apparently it was so bad they just black holed it. They never aired it at all. She was so bad, the podcaster and dome decided, let's just pretend like this never happened. That's amazing.

[Clay Travis]

I did see that story, by the way. You, I think, are on record as saying the best chain restaurant is Red Lobster. In addition to being wrong about Brussels sprouts, many other things, the best chain restaurant is Chick Fil A. I would eat Chick Fil A a hundred times out of a hundred before I would go to Red Lobster.

[Jesse Kelly]

Well, that doesn't surprise me at all. Clay, I'm sure you probably think Panda Express is good Chinese food, but when you've walked into a Red Lobster.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, that's rough.

[Jesse Kelly]

You eat Cheddar Bay biscuits and you order the shrimp scampi. And then get another fresh order of warm cheddar bay biscuits and you break them open and you dip them them in the red. In the, in the shrimp scampi. Lemon butter. That's when you know what heaven is. While you're sitting across the street eating soggy waffle fries from Chick Fil A. Of course.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, Jesse, this is important. This is important because we had a caller.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

We didn't plan this.

[Buck Sexton]

A caller called in who's familiar with your work and familiar with your self

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

titling as the menu whisperer and called

[Buck Sexton]

this into question based solely on your

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

love of Red Lobster.

[Buck Sexton]

So I want to throw one or two situations at you here. We're going to kind of put you on the spot. We're going to want to play this

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

out a little bit.

[Buck Sexton]

You are at Chick Fil A. What is the best order you can make, Mr.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

Menu Whisperer?

[Caller]

Like what?

[Jesse Kelly]

What is the go to spicy chicken sandwich meal. Drop the pickles off a sandwich. It's not that I'm anti pickle, it's when you put pickles on a sandwich, it becomes a pickle sandwich and that's all you can taste. Spicy chicken sandwich meal. Add a slice of American cheese. Make sure you ask for two or three ranch cups, otherwise they won't give you any. You're going to dip your sandwich in that. The waffle fries.

[Caller]

You not only have to order them

[Jesse Kelly]

extra crispy, depending on the location, sometimes they'll give you that, sometimes they won't. Extra crispy on the waffle fries. And although I admit I am not a huge milkshake man, Chick Fil a does an excellent milkshake. Straight up vanilla milkshake. Gives you that salty sweet everyone's looking for clay.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

That was pretty good.

[Buck Sexton]

You're a little impressed.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

You're a little impressed.

[Clay Travis]

I mean that was very specific. That was not a. You know, Chick Fil a. I've never been. And I'm just going to throw elbows about how. How a Red Lobster is better. That was a very. That was a man who's ordered Chick Fil a many a time. Final question for you, Jesse, as we go into the weekend.

[Co-host (possibly Clay or Buck, but distinct voice)]

30 seconds.

[Clay Travis]

Buck threw out the theory reptiles cannot love. Have you ever contemplated whether a reptile can love or not?

[Jesse Kelly]

I think they have to be able to love because otherwise they'd never be able to reproduce. There's no way crocodiles are actually attracted to other crocodiles unless there's some form of love attached there.

[Buck Sexton]

Elevated thinking from our friend Jesse Kelly. Go Check out the Jesse Kelly show, folks. We'll be on later today. Jesse will see you in a bit.

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