Hour 2 - Sorry, New York

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 - Sorry, New York
Date: October 20, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this engaging and often irreverent hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dissect the fast-approaching New York City mayoral election, using it as a broader lens to examine the recent direction of Democratic politics, urban policy failures, and partisan divides. With Buck broadcasting from Florida and Clay from Tennessee, they address the contentious race, discuss the consequences for New York and the nation, and take calls from listeners across the country—many of whom are exasperated or resigned about New York's fate.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. The New York City Mayoral Election: High Stakes, Dismal Choices

[02:38–06:36]

• Clay and Buck open the hour by framing the New York mayoral race as possibly the most consequential and contentious upcoming election, noting how it exemplifies deeper issues within urban Democratic strongholds and broader national politics.
• They discuss the perceived inevitability of the left-wing candidate—Mamdani—winning, with Andrew Cuomo presented as an only slightly lesser-of-two-evils. Neither inspires confidence from Buck, who brands Cuomo “a disaster” and “the meanest person in New York politics” ([03:29]).
  • Quote [03:06] - Buck: "Cuomo is also awful. He's not a communist, but he is a very, very bad, authoritarian Democrat... He was a disaster... I've heard that from numerous people that he's a really nasty guy if you cross him.”

2. Trump’s Critique: Radical Associations and Political Optics

[04:46–06:25]

• Trump’s commentary is played, highlighting Mamdani’s apparent association with Siraj Wahhaj, a controversial Brooklyn imam with reported links to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
  • Quote [04:54] – Trump: “Didn’t the man you’re talking about blow up the World Trade Center? And he’s friends with Mamdani.”
• Buck provides context: the imam is an “unindicted co-conspirator” in the bombing and, per Buck, an advocate for “jihad on the Big Apple.” Yet, to Buck, the imam controversy “isn’t even in the top three” worst things about Mamdani as mayor.

3. The Futility (and Comedy) of Saving New York

[06:36–10:08, 22:24–26:33]

• Clay takes a pragmatic—if bleak—approach, suggesting that perhaps New Yorkers “just need to suffer for the benefit of the rest of the country,” arguing a far-left New York could trigger a national backlash benefitting the GOP.
  • Quote [06:46] – Clay: “I think Mamdani is going to win... and when he wins... the nation as a whole will benefit.”
  • Predicts mass exodus of New Yorkers to Florida and Tennessee, further driving up real estate prices in those states ([09:47]).
  • Quote [10:08] – Clay: “As soon as you move somewhere new, you want to immediately pull up the bridge. You’re like, there's too many people moving in here now.”
• Listeners call in, echoing the sentiment of letting New York “sink beneath the waves of communism” ([25:25], [31:43]).

4. The Electability Conundrum

[16:21–17:22]

• Discussion of the necessity for Democrats to have a “star power” candidate on the national level, dismissing potential moderates like Andy Beshear as non-entities due to lack of charisma or national profile.
  • Quote [17:19] – Buck: “Nah. Doesn’t get enough sizzle on social media… He’s too boring, too bland, I think.”

5. The Role of Legal vs. Illegal Immigration Sentiment

[10:31–11:57]

• Buck and Clay debate the miscalculations of Democrats regarding immigration, emphasizing how legal immigrants often oppose illegal immigration even more than native-born citizens.
  • Quote [11:18] – Buck: “Legal immigrants are like, ‘you tell those illegal immigrants to go home and do it the right way, buddy.’”

6. Call-In Segment: Reactions, Rants, and Reflections

[26:46–45:20]

• Multiple listeners chime in from Wisconsin, New Jersey, Long Island, and elsewhere. Some criticize the hosts for “giving up” on New York or not backing Republican long-shot Curtis Sliwa. Others argue New York deserves the government it votes for, and Republicans shouldn't “bail them out.”
• Concerns about Mamdani instituting radical policies (like Sharia law or free public transit leading to system abuse) are expressed, with Buck pointing out the limits of the mayor's practical and legal powers ([34:15]).
  • Quote [34:21] – Buck: “There are things that Mamdani is not capable of doing… There are other things that I think he will not be able to do logistically or bureaucratically.”

7. Left-Wing Coalition Contradictions: Sharia Law & Identity Politics

[35:54–37:45]

• Clay and Buck highlight the “unholy alliance” between progressive activists and Islamic hardliners, mocking leftists who overlook glaring contradictions (e.g., LGBTQ activists supporting pro-Sharia factions).
  • Quote [36:09] – Clay: “I would even offer to fund an airplane to fly the gays to Gaza to protest in favor of Hamas, just to see how it would go.”

8. Broader Takeaways: Urban Exodus and Political Realignment

[43:29–46:08]

• Final callers reference the ongoing exodus from New York City, citing quality-of-life deterioration, crime, and municipal mismanagement as key drivers.
  • Quote [44:12] – Chris from Manhattan/Long Island: “I have friends who are cops. They're done, too. This whole thing is going to be a complete and utter disaster. We could see it a mile away.”
• Hosts debate whether New York real estate demand will ever diminish, with Buck noting prices and rents remain at all-time highs despite perceived decline ([45:05]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Cuomo is also awful… the meanest person in New York politics.” – Buck ([03:12])
• “I think Mamdani is going to win… the nation as a whole will benefit.” – Clay ([06:46])
• “If Sliwa stays in, Mamdani wins. So what to do?” – Buck ([06:25])
• “We're good over here now. We've already got the infrastructure problems… these New Yorkers coming down into my Miami.” – Buck ([10:00])
• “Legal immigrants are like, you tell those illegal immigrants to go home and do it the right way, buddy.” – Buck ([11:18])
• “He's one of these guys who, like a Mafia don, basically… if you cross him, he's going to get you back.” – Buck on Cuomo ([04:21])
• “Burn it all down. Sorry, Big Apple.” – Clay ([06:26])
• “These people are actually completely the antithesis of what the left in this country tries to argue…that coalition cannot continue.” – Clay, on leftist contradictions ([37:37])
• “I have friends who are cops. They're done, too. This whole thing is going to be a complete and utter disaster. We could see it a mile away.” – Chris, caller ([44:12])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:38] — Show launches into the New York City mayoral race discussion.
• [03:06–04:21] — Buck’s detailed critique of Cuomo.
• [04:46] — Trump soundbite on Mamdani’s alleged extremist connections.
• [06:36] — Clay on why a Mamdani win could help Republicans nationally.
• [10:08–11:57] — Hosts on migration, legal immigrants’ stance on illegal immigration.
• [12:11] — Mamdani defends himself and his associations.
• [16:21–17:22] — The importance of star power in national politics.
• [22:24] — Clay presents new poll and betting odds, reinforces Mamdani's near inevitability.
• [26:46 –34:15] — Caller segment; debates on whether to “save” New York or let it flounder.
• [35:54–37:45] — Clash of ideologies: leftist identity politics and Sharia law contradictions.
• [43:29–46:08] — Callers describe urban exodus and the state of city services.

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Tone, Language, and Style

As always, Clay and Buck blend humor, sarcasm, and frank political commentary. They are unsentimental about New York's fate, favoring ideological clarity (and a few taunts) over futile heroics. There’s banter about “letting New York sink” and lively engagement with callers who run the gamut from frustrated conservatives to ex-New Yorkers.

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Summary For Newcomers

This hour serves as both a case study in urban political dysfunction and a meditation on what happens when a city—or party—embraces ideologically extreme leadership. If you’re following the NYC election, worried about leftward shifts in governance, pondering the dynamics of migration from blue states, or entertained by sharp political banter, this episode has something for you.

Key takeaway:
Even if New York seems headed for radical governance, Clay and Buck argue, maybe that’s the lesson America needs—and the rest of the country might be all the better for it.

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Welcome everybody. Second hour of play and buck and let's dive into I think the election that's getting more attention coming up here in a few weeks than any other, and that is New York City mayor. I understand for a lot of you, you're thinking, not my problem. Well, let's just put this into context. Very likely that if it is in fact a mom. Donnie. I know Clay. We were on Kaylee show this weekend and it's funny. Clay does. Clay's like, hey, I'm not trying to tell New Yorkers that they just need.

[D]

To suffer for the benefit of the.

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Rest of the country, but I'm kind of telling them they need to suffer for the benefit of the rest. Know, this is exactly where I do not. I am hopeful that things will turn around here somehow, although I'm not going to lie to you guys, I don't have a great idea of what that would be because Cuomo is also awful. He's not a communist, but he is a very, very bad, authoritarian Democrat. He's. He is more on the pro business side and less radical leftist in his ideology. But he was. I rem. I lived in New York during COVID and I lived in New York during the jailbreak stuff that he pushed in Albany. You know, no bail, no jail, all that. And the guy was a. He was a disaster. It's not even. I couldn't even tell you that Cuomo was, you know, okay, he was awful. And he also has a reputation for being the meanest person in New York politics. I can't speak to that personally, but I have heard that from numerous people that he's a really nasty guy if you cross him. Yeah, he's one of these guys who.

[D]

Like a Mafia don, basically.

[A]

That's exactly right. If you cross him, he's going to get you back, and he's going to get you back really badly, even if you cross him on minor stuff. So that's his reputation. But on the other side. Yeah, we got Mom Donnie. And here you have. Here you have Trump weighing in on the Mamdani situation. This is cut four. Play it. Oh, I think it's a shame that.

[E]

That particular man is endorsing him and very friendly with him. You can see there's a relationship. He blew up the World Trade Center, Right.

[A]

Didn't the man you're talking about blow up the World Trade Center? And he's friends with Mandami. All right, Clay, let me just give some backstory here. So everybody knows what Trump's talking about. Mamdani was just campaigning this weekend with a, quote, notorious gay hating Brooklyn imam who is an unindicted co conspirator in the 1993 World Trade center bombing and who has been linked to other terrorist activity in the United States, including urging jihad on the Big Apple. Mamdani is the front runner to be the governor. He was standing arm in arm with Siraj Wahaj, the imam at the Bedford Stuyvesant Mosque in a photo posted on X. And there you have that. So, Clay, this guy is palling around with a radical pro jihad imam and Trump is calling this one out. And I'm not even, I don't even know that being pro jihad is in the top three worst things about this guy in terms of what he's going to do to New York City. Because I think that the list is very long and I just wonder how the Democrats are going to, are going to spin this thing. People are saying, well, what if Sliwa drops out? If Sliwa drops out, it is within striking distance. It is within the polling margin of error. If Sliwa stays in, Mamdani wins. So what to do? What to. This is what you and I were talking to Kaylee about and you were just like, burn it all down. Sorry, Big Apple, but I was trying to be constructive.

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Look, I'm in New York right now. It's a great city. We have to leave it behind and, and the rest of the country just has to, just has to move on. I think that Mamdani is going to win. And when Mamdani wins, there's a reason Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer have refused to endorse him. He is going to become a communist, one of the front facing elements of the Democrat Party going forward. I don't think that AOC or KAMI Mamdani are the people that the Democrats want to be the face of their party. I think that that will become the reality and I think the nation as a whole will benefit because the House and the Senate will remain in Republican control. And I also think this is what you said on Kaylee and you've said it on the program quite a lot too. Buck, I do think that you are true, you are correct on this. I think Mamdani is a glib, articulate, likable, charismatic voice that will actually be a very poor and ineffective mayor. Meaning that many of the things that he wants to do or that he talks about doing, he'll just be simply incapable of doing it. And let me give you an example of there's no way the city of New York is going to open grocery stores Right. This whole idea that suddenly you're going to save money because instead of the hard working people who are busting their asses to compete every single day in New York and in the grocery market, that the city of New York is somehow going to be more efficient, effective and cost controlling of, of, of produce in New York is crazy. And so there's no way some of this stuff is ever going to happen. It's just kind of Reddit fantasies where leftists sit around and say, well, maybe we should just have grocery stores instead of the grocery companies and then everybody can save money. So I think he's going to be inefficient. And if he leaves Jessica Tish in charge of crime in New York City, I think she's actually doing a good job. And so my thought is in general that he'll be awful but so incapable of putting into place the policies that he wants to put into place that it will be hard for him to make New York that much worse than it is now. I do think a lot of New Yorkers though are looking around and saying, why do I want to live here anymore? Sean Hannity going to be on right after us. Buck Sexton on with me right now. Guys who lived in the New York City area, born and raised, Buck and just said, you know what, Florida's better. I'm going to move. I think it's going to be really good for high end Florida pricing, I'm telling you. Tennessee too. Texas. I found out the other day one of my new neighbors coming in from New York, hedge fund guy just said, I'm done with it. I'm not going to continue here. I'm going to go where I don't have state income tax.

[A]

Just the panhandle is where all you rich New Yorkers want to go. Miami. Miami beach is full, okay? Everything is too expensive here already. So Clay can get you great deals. Waterfront, my friends. Waterfront in the pad handle. Go check that out. Because we're good over here now. We've already got the infrastructure problems that now I've been here three years and I'm already, I'm like these New Yorkers coming down into my mind.

[D]

It is very funny. As soon as you move somewhere new, you want to immediately pull up the bridge. You're like, there's way too, there's only too many people moving in here now.

[A]

This is what keeps saying where I.

[D]

Am in Tennessee now, everybody suddenly like six months after they get here, they're like, we gotta stop all these Californians and New Yorkers And Chicagoans from coming down here, what do they think they are? He's like, you've been here six months, buddy.

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You're Carrie has to, has to stop me. Sometimes we go for walks around the neighborhood and there's so much money going into new construction, new houses being built around here right now. We'll be with, out in a beautiful sunny day with Ginger and I look at some massive construction site, residential, you know, just be like these New Yorkers just, just crowding, crowding our coffee shops, crowding our parking, you know. Yeah, I've been here three years and already I'm, I'm in that category. So, yes, I says, by the way, you know what's actually, this is real. The attitudes of legal immigrants to illegal immigrants, for example, mirror this. Where illegal immigrants, I mean, sorry, legal immigrants are like, you tell those illegal immigrants to go home and do it the right way, buddy. Like they are very, a lot of times very stringent.

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Well, I think this is why I played by the Democrats got wrong. They thought that Trump's, you know, anti illegal immigration stance would play poorly with legal immigrants. And boy, were they ever wrong on that because legal immigrants know how hard it is to get here legally. And so when you see people cutting the line, you actually get way more frustrated with American immigration policy. The fact that you had to play it right, you had to for years, work maybe decades to get yourself here and your family members here. And then some guy walks across the southern border and the Biden administration is like, you're an American now. No, you're fed up with that too.

[A]

You have Mamdani here defending himself after this alleged terror linked NYC imam. Here he is, they were here he is talking about this when this cut 25.

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The same imam met with Mayor Bloomberg, met with Mayor de Blasio, campaigned alongside Eric Adams and the only time it.

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Became an issue of national attention was.

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When I met with him.

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I think it's because people think that you actually are sympathetic to radical, not just left wing, but radical Islamist ideology.

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Yes.

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And that's why no one thinks Bloomberg, no one thinks Mayor Bloomberg is big on the radical Islam or I mean.

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Eric Adams, I mean, Eric Adams was again, I think people in New York are going to look back fondly on the Eric Adams administration, if I'm correct, and Mamdani is going to win. But Eric Adams, nobody thought, oh, Eric Adams is a sympathizer of Hamas. Eric Adams wouldn't go on Fox news if Martha McCollum asked him and said, hey, should Hamas put down their Weapons. He'd be like they should.

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There's a possibility here. There's a possibility here that we haven't really discussed, but I could foresee this. First of all, please, like we got people calling, writing in every day. We talk about Mandani and they go, why aren't you guys, you know, Sliwa, New York is 8 to 1, Democrat to Republican. Okay? A lot of people that are willing to vote for Cuomo are not willing to vote for a Republican and they will vote for Mandani over Sliwa. This is what you have to understand. It's not, oh, if Cuomo, because people are saying, well, Cuomo should drop out. Like, if Cuomo drops out, most of those votes are going to go to Mamdani and they're not going to go to Sliwa. Ok, so that's. You have a lot of New York. I know New Yorkers. I am still a New Yorker in exile here in Florida with a lot of us. I wonder if Sean, we should ask Sean, our friend Sean Hannity, if he, if he still feels like he's a New Yorker in Florida or if he's gone full Floridian, you know, is he, is he.

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Sean lived all over the country, right? So I think he's like fed up. He's been here for. He was in New York for, he.

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Was in New York for at least a Long Island, a beautiful part of Long Island.

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30 years probably.

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30 years or something. Yeah. I think at that point you're, you can say, consider yourself a New York guy, but because I still, I still feel like a New Yorker who lives in Florida. Except for tax purposes. I'm a Florida resident year round. Year round.

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Florida. You're gonna get audited again now?

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Again, I have, I set foot in New York as rare only to see my family on holidays now because of what they do to me with the taxes. But here's. Okay, so here's the situation though, Clay. Maybe Mamdani comes in and he isn't as radical in the first year as a lot of people think. And then it will all be, oh, see, he's more reasonable. Just long enough for the Democrats to try to snatch control of the House in the midterms. And you know he's going to have a four year mom, Donnie, have a four year term. If he wins, maybe he turns up the heat of the crazy town more year two, more year three. That's a possibility. I just want to keep that out there. Because if he doesn't come in acting like Joseph Stalin right away, everyone's going to be like, my gosh, he's not so bad.

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I think there's some truth to that. Here is something to think about. Remember how we discussed that Gavin Newsom was popping bubbly when Trump won because his worst case scenario was Kamala winning, and then he can't run for 12 years basically for president? I don't think AOC wants the Democrats to do well in 2026. Something to think about in the back of your mind. I don't think Gavin Newsom really wants him to do well. I think they want to be the solution to a problem, and if things are going better than Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries look reasonable and it makes it harder for them to win. I think they want to dial up the crazy and let Trump be successful in the midterms because it benefits them politically if Republicans have success. So my only thought on that is, I think AOC runs far left wing. If it hurts the midterms, what does she care? Her seat's safe. She cares about 28. Just something to file away. How many Democrats actually, with national ambition want 2026 to be successful? I don't actually think very many of them do.

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I also think the Democrats realize you need star power to win national elections now. Now that. That. That doesn't have to be a TV star like Trump necessarily, but you need somebody with universal name recognition, but also who. I know Biden is boring. Biden had been in the game for so long and was. Think of all the video and all the photos of Biden with Obama. Biden with Obama. Biden with Obama. That was his currency. 100% name recognition. Eight more years of the Obama administration, you need somebody who has both that name recognition, but also the branding around them. Right. It has to be a. That's why I think, like your guy. I never remember his name.

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The.

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You know, the jerk from the governor of Kentucky, right?

[D]

Andy Beshear.

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Andy Beshear. Nah. Nobody knows who this guy is. Can't do it. He's not interesting enough. Can't do it. People say, oh, we're gonna have a moderate Democrat like Andy Beshear is the nominee.

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Nah.

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Doesn't get enough sizzle on social media.

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Guy's too boring, too bland, I think. But remember what they did with Joe Biden.

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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show all right, I'm going to tee up some of these callers who want to react to me saying New York should just, much like Buck island, be left to the sands of time and the rest of the nation can move on and have a fabulous existence. There is a new poll that is out and it shows that if Curtis Sliwa drops out, there is a chance that Andrew Cuomo could win this race. If Curtis Lewis stays in, there is no chance that anybody else is going to win. And for those of you out there who say, okay, I don't trust polls, the gambling markets say that there is a 93% chance right now, mom, Donnie is going to win. 6% chance Cuomo is going to win. Less than 1% chance that SLI was going to win. This is people putting their actual money down. Hundreds of millions of dollars now Buck has been wagered and who is going to be elected the mayor of New York City. And mom, Donnie today just hit a record high. So if you disagree with the polling, you can go make a bundle of money putting your money where your mouth is.

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We're going to take these calls when we come back here in just a second. Yeah, so light us up here. And if you just want to to get mad at Clay for representing Nashville interests over New York interest, a little.

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Too much, I would say the nation's interests over New York's interests.

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[D]

I love them all, but, you know, a lot of them moved to Westchester. A lot of them are listening on Long island and, and a lot more of them, I think, are going to be listening outside New York City when Mamdani is elected and the city so slowly sinks beneath the wave of communism. And people with money decide, you know what, there's a lot of places where I can live very well. Texas, Tennessee, Florida among them, where I don't have to pay 15% of my money in state taxes, with Mamdani pledging to raise the taxes even more. But a ton of people want to weigh in. We got loaded lines again. The mayor's race is 15 days. Am I right about that? 15 days from now is the official race. Curtis Lewa, we should say, I'll just echo. He should drop out. If as long as he stays in the race, Mamdani is basically 100% going to win this election. Not saying I'm rude.

[A]

Clay is going here next. He's going to tell you the pastrami at Katz's Delicatessen is overrated. Central park is not that beautiful in the fall. I mean, he's really, you know, he's, he's being rough. He's been rough on New York.

[D]

Right now I'm being rough on New York, but being very kind to the rest of the country because we'll all benefit on New York seeking beneath the waves of communism.

[A]

Kevin in Wisconsin wants to weigh in on this one. What's going on, Kevin?

[E]

Hey, thanks for taking my call. I just want to know when and why did Clay and Buck turn into every other weak kneed Republican elite that won't even enter a fight when it comes to mayoral, other, you know, important, you know, elections.

[D]

So what should. Okay, Kevin, what would a strong need. Is that a good thing? What would a strong need Republican show be saying right now to you?

[E]

Well, right now, at first you should have gotten behind Sliwa to begin with, but right now you would definitely be saying that Cuomo needs to drop out because he knows he can't win.

[D]

Kevin, I could give, I could give Curtis Lee, what, $10 million tomorrow, more than anybody has given him probably for his campaign in the history of his primary runs, in the history of his political career, and he would still lose by 30 points, maybe 40.

[E]

But at least it'd be a fair fight against. But there is a. I don't.

[D]

How is it a fair fight? Like, if you support someone who gets their ass kicked and makes it worse for everybody else, how is that a strong thing to do?

[E]

Well, it's okay, so let's concede that maybe New York is lost. But there is a way.

[D]

Well, now you agree with me. This is what I'm saying.

[E]

There is a way you can redeem yourself. There is other elections to where we have socialists that are running that might win. And with the.

[A]

Kevin. Kevin, you're very far away in Wisconsin. I'm just wondering, why is this get. Why this got you so fired up. Were you a former New Yorker?

[E]

I myself am supporting someone who's running for mayor in Minneapolis, even though I don't even live in the state, who happens to be the only conservative running against 15 other candidates, where we have Omar Pateh, who is another Democratic socialist in the same line as Mandani, who could very well win this race.

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You're the hero of hopeless causes.

[E]

This is kind of where we are in this case. I'm saying that he's not a hopeless cause. I think he's got the best shot.

[D]

He has a zero. Let me just be Kevin. He has a zero percent chance of winning. He has as much chance of being elected mayor of New York City as I do of being super bowl mvp.

[E]

I'll make a bet with you.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

All right. We'll do a dinner. All right. I can't quite go on the same line of dinners that you two seem to be able to afford, but I'll do a steak dinner with you. That Laverne Turner, an independent candidate for mayor in Minneapolis, all right. Will win this election because they happen to have ranked choice voting. And this time around, it will favor Laverne.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I appreciate the call. I will. I have no idea who Laverne and Shirley you might have welled. I can't make a bet on someone I don't even know. Thank you for the call. I. I don't. Kevin was everywhere, all over the place. I will admit I do not know a lot about the new. The Minneapolis mayor's race. I did look it up while we were talking. And the crazy guy who knelt at the George Floyd funeral, the sort of curly haired white guy, he is an overwhelming. Jacob Frey, he is an overwhelming favorite to be reelected mayor. So.

[A]

Also known as. Also known as. He's going to win again.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And I didn't know this. Minneapolis guys what is going on in your city? Shots fired calls are. We're at 4000, and they're celebrating that, down from 5000. 4000 calls about shots fired in the city of Minneapolis.

[D]

Oh, I mean, is this, like.

[A]

Is this like. Like Lebanon in the 80s? Like, what are you guys doing over there?

[D]

Oh, I mean, the city in the wake of George Floyd. Tons of cops just said, I'm leaving. They're going to reelect. It appears, the dumbest human in maybe the governor's offices anywhere in the country, obviously with Tim Walls. And so I just think Minneapolis has fallen, and it's a shame because it's a nice place.

[E]

What a.

[A]

What craziness that is, really.

[D]

Okay, we got more people who are fired up.

[A]

Jerry in Jersey. Jerry in Jersey's angry he's not inviting you to Satriel's. Clay, you're off the list. What's going on, Jerry?

[E]

Yeah. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. You know, the demands for Curtis to leave the race is absurd once you think about it, because Democrats elected a communist Muslim in their primary, and they nominated him to leave the city, and now they're getting scared of the communist Muslim, and they want Republicans to bail them out and help them elect a guy who's only a granny killer. He doesn't. He's not actually a communist.

[D]

Jerry, I'm with you. This is why we don't need to save New York. We just let it go underwater, and the rest of the country benefits 100%, Clay.

[E]

100%. You know, new York City cannot be bailed out by Republicans. It won't serve them well. Imagine, guys, if Republicans elect, I'm nominated an awful Republican. And then Republicans turned to Democrats and said, hey, your guy got to get out because we want to elect our Republican. Imagine how that would go. So New York City needs no sympathy from us.

[D]

Thank you for the call, Jerry.

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Jerry in Jersey is looking across the Hudson river with glee at what is about to happen to my beloved New York City. Okay, this is making me sad.

[D]

Damn it.

[A]

I think Jerry. Jerry has been stuck in Lincoln Tunnel traffic one time too many. He's like, you know what? I'm done.

[D]

He's making a good decision. Damon used to live in New York City. Damon, you're with me. Just let New York City sink underneath.

[E]

The waves of communism, you know, Buck, you should tell Clay that if this guy takes over New York City, there's no more Del Friscos.

[D]

Man, oh, man, that's a great spot. I would. I. If they start charging more for my Stakes at Del Frisco's. Then I'll be in trouble. Damon, what do you think should happen?

[E]

Here's the thing. New York City has turned into most of like your, your European socialist countries where there's, there's two parties, there's the left, and then there's the ultra last. I mean, to say it as, as an ex New Yorker and army veteran conservative, you know, I bleed, I, I, I bleed red, white and blue. But, but let this place go. Let us self destruct. I mean, it's, there's so much history there. There's so much, you know, where's the Steinbrenner family? I mean, where are they to say to. They need to not come out. They need to come out and not endorse this guy?

[D]

Hey, they're not in the playoffs, I'll tell you that. Damon. Sorry, Yankee fans. I'm really teeing off on New York today. Louise in Long Island. Louise, what do you think?

[E]

Hi. Thank you for taking my call. I'm looking at this a little differently in terms of the Mondami race. Everybody's focused on the final finances. But my question is, is he going to do things like introduce Sharia law in certain areas of the city? Is he going to allow foreigners to come in and invest in property to change the aspect of the city? I mean, I'm just curious, Louise.

[A]

Okay, there's a, there's a few, there's a few things. I'm the one who's lived in New York, so I'll step in here. Clay. Excuse me. Excuse me, sir. You with all of your.

[D]

Hey, I'm very comfortable with the city going under the water.

[A]

So, so, so to our caller's questions, one is you have that the mayor of New York City. New York still operates within New York. New York City operates within New York State. And so there are things that go beyond what just the city can do that would conflict with, say, state law, which, which you can't, which you can't have. And so you also have a city council, and laws to be changed would have to be changed even at the city level, in the city council. So there's some things that Mamdani is not capable of doing that he has talked about legally. There are other things that I think he will not be able to do logistically or bureaucratically. He won't be able to figure out how to get the things done that he wants to get done. So I wouldn't worry about that. And New York already has a tremendous amount of, like, foreign investment from all over the world. It's actually the New York City high end real estate market has been a place where oligarchs from Russia and China and wherever have been stashing cash for going on 30 years now. So that's not, that's nothing new. But you have a tremendous, I've seen some, some recent data, Clay, that something like 30 or 40% of the public housing in New York City, which is substantial, is people that won't warrant born in America. So you have a massive foreign born population, not just in New York City, but living in subsidized housing in New York City.

[D]

One thing Louise hit on that I do think is interesting. And we'll take some more of your calls on this to close out the hour. Sharia law, the disconnect between left wing support for people like Mamdani and for sort of the Palestinian cause. This is an unholy alliance of epic proportions because as we've joked about for some time, I think I even offered to fund an airplane to fly the gays to Gaza to protest in favor of, in favor of Hamas in Gaza just to see how it would go. They throw you off buildings and behead you if you are gay in many of these countries under Sharia law. So the people walking around with pride flags saying Free, free Palestine, their brains are so broken, I can't even comprehend the arguments that they're making. But on Louise's point, Buck, they don't want to actually do that because that would force meaning start to put in place Sharia law and say, hey, if you're a girl, you can't get an education after 8th grade. Which is basically, I think what now is the law in Afghanistan now the Taliban has taken back over. If that is to happen, then it will force that cognitive dissonance to be explored and exploded. Where you point out, wait a minute, these people are actually completely the antithesis of what the left in this country tries to argue. And it's why this identity politics coalition, I think on the left is ultimately unmanageable in the years ahead. I think you started to see it fracturing with Trump. I think it's an unholy alliance that cannot continue.

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Harsh, harsh, he said.

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You know what? Miami's got great weather. It's starting to get a little cold up here, a little chilly, buck said. You know, I think I'll just have summer year round, but Buck has got a checkup for the baby so I'll have you for the third hour solo. But you want to hit a bunch of these calls before we. Before we run out, a lot of you weighing in on the New York City mayors race, which is 15 days and early voting is just about to start. Chris in Manhattan, what you got for us?

[E]

Hey, guys. So I work in Manhattan, but I live in Long island, so. Very interesting. My wife and I put our house up for sale about two months ago. The amount of people that are coming in from Glendale, Queens, to move out of the city to Long island is off the chart.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

It's the best time for us to sell a house. We sold it within a week. Okay. And now we're moving down to New Jersey in Tom's River. But anyhow, it is. It's a real thing now. I've worked in Manhattan for 40 years. I take the subway. I've taken videos and brought them to the cops of the amount of people that jump over the turnstiles.

[D]

Yep.

[E]

Off the charts. They lost $100 million last year. Now, Mandami, one of his plans is to have free bus service.

[D]

That's right.

[E]

And I'm going to tell you something. I know a couple bus drivers, they're all going to quit because a bunch of homeless are going to go live on the buses. That's what they're going to do. They're getting on there for free. So you're not going to have enough people to do any this guy wants. I have friends who are cops. They're done, too. This whole thing is going to be a complete and utter disaster. We could see it a mile away. And all these spoiled kids from Brooklyn are voting for this. Okay. And they don't. You know, like I said, it's going to be free subways, free buses. It's a joke. The place was a joke when Eric Adams was mayor. It's just going to get worse. And that's all I'm saying. I'm out of here. But they're all coming in from Queens. I'm telling you right now. They're all moving out to Long Island. I live in Bethpage. They're all coming out here.

[D]

Thank you, Chris. I think there's going to be a lot of that, Buck. It's the best thing for the real estate values to a lot more people.

[A]

I'm getting a little heat now. I'm getting a little heat on some of these comments about be like, yeah, Buck. Standing up for New York from Miami beach in your sandals, getting your. Hey, hey, I can still love from afar. Okay? I am rooting for you, New York. I'm just rooting for you. You do have miles away.

[D]

You do have a lot of family members that.

[A]

Yeah, my family lives in New still or half my family, I should say lives in New York still. So I would say this though, Clay. New York City real estate right now is pretty much at the all time high and renting as well. Well, so no matter what happens in New York, the demand never goes down. People want to be there, people want to live there. I mean this is just the, you know. Well, this is the truth.

[D]

I think actually a huge part of it is what you hit on. A lot of people use New York real estate from foreign countries to shield assets because it's so expensive that if you are supremely wealthy and you're a Russian oligarch, those are the big fancy apartments.

[A]

I'm talking about the average one bedroom. The average price renting a one bedroom in New York, it's like four grand. It's basically at an all time high.

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They won't build new places for people to live and they have rent control. That's a bad problem. It actually, actually just keeps driving up the cost for everybody. We'll be back for next the NFL.

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