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Clay Travis
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Drew Goins
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Molly Roberts
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Clay Travis
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Drew Goins
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Clay Travis
Travis and Buck Sexton wanted to give credit to Bill Maher for being willing to go actually meet with President Trump in person. He had a dinner with Kid Rock at the over in the White House after, I believe they went into the Oval Office as well. And I want to play some of the cuts. This is from Bill Maher's HBO show. And I think what Bill Maher is saying here is what many of you have found in your experiences either listening to Trump on this program or other programs over the last decade. I believe the number is that I have been involved in interviewing Trump either by myself or with Buck now 11 times. And so I feel like I know Trump fairly well at this point. We've talked to him for hours on this program during the course of the last four years. And what Bill Maher is saying is what I have found to be true of Trump in private. He's an incredibly likable, charismatic guy who frankly feels kind of like a grandpa when I have been around him. And let's listen to a couple of these cuts. He also has, and I think this is important, a pretty good sense of humor. He's actually very, very funny and most of his critics don't get it. Here's Bill Maher saying he showed up with a list of insults that Trump had called him and Trump autographed it for him, which is incredible. Listen to cut 15.
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Bill Maher
Before I left for the Capitol, I had my staff collect and print out this list of almost 60 different insulting epithets that the President has said about me. Things like stupid, dummy, low life, dummy, sleazebag, sick, sad, stone cold crazy. Really a dumb guy, fired like a dog. His show is dead. I brought this to the White House because I wanted him to sign it, which he did. Which he did with good humor.
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Clay Travis
All right. I mean, this is how it should be. I talked about the Taylor Lorenzo. He's a morally good man. That's not how it should be. How it should be is people can disagree sometimes. They might even say mean things. But when they meet face to face, they behave like adults. And most of the time, I have found when you meet someone face to face, you are more likely to like them, particularly when it's someone like Donald Trump that is actually very likable. We've said on this program for a long time, look, you can disagree with his policies. I, I am 100% of the opinion that you can look at Trump's policies and you can say, I hate the tariff ideas. You can say, hey, I think we should have free and wide open borders. You can say, police are too empowered or he's taking too much executive authority. I don't agree with those arguments, but I think you can make those arguments and be a rational, normal human being. What you can't say is he's Hitler. He is not in any way remotely similar to Adolf Hitler. Disagree with his policies. Attacking him personally is absurd. And what I have said for some time is, and I bet what Bill Maher now recognizes, Trump is an energy person. Whatever energy you give to him, he gives back to you 10x. So if you are favorable and kind, he's going to be 10 times as favorable and 10 times as kind to you. If you are unfavorable, uncharitable, cruel, mean, he's going to give that back to you 10x. Whatever you give, Trump gives back 10x. That's the lesson that everybody should have learned by now. And actually face to face, he tends to be really good. I've said this before I met Trump for the first time in person in October of 2020. I took my wife and my at the time, oldest son who was, I believe, in seventh grade. Trump was unbelievable with him, unbelievable with my seventh grader in the Oval Office, the time he spent with him, he was just a fabulous grandfatherly like figure. My wife, like a lot of women, was not a huge fan of Donald Trump before she met him, after meeting him in the Oval Office. And she's met him a couple of times since. She loves him. He is really incredible face to face, one on one, not only with the people there, but with kids, really, really good with kids. He's met my, all of my sons, by the way. They were more interested in meeting Mr. Beast than the President. No offense to the President, but he's met all of my kids, fabulous with all of them, just like a good grandpa would be. And I bet if you had the good fortune to get to meet the President and you got to meet him with your kids or with your grandkids, he would be phenomenal with him. And this is what Bill Maher is saying. Bill Maher, like, kind of built this mountain of Trump is an awful person based on public Persona. And then he had to go out and tell his audience on Friday, actually, we had a phenomenal dinner and Trump was incredible. Here is Bill Maher on meeting Trump cut 16. He laughs.
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Bill Maher
Just for starters, he laughs. I've never seen him laugh in public, but he does, including in himself. And it's not fake. Believe me, as a comedian of 40 years, I know a fake laugh when I hear it. Okay, example in the Oval Office, he was showing me the portraits of presidents and he pointed to Reagan and said in all seriousness, you know the best thing about him? His hair. I said, well, there was also that whole bringing down communism thing, waiting for the button next to the Diet Coke button to get pushed and I go through the trap door. But no, he laughed. He got it.
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Clay Travis
He has a really good sense of humor. He's also insanely self aware. Some of you may have seen me on Fox and Friends over the weekend. I'll take feedback, by the way. 800-282-28A2. I'll tell you what my mom said in a moment. But I said this because we were playing some of the cuts. From the moment Jimmy Fallon allowed himself to get bullied for humanizing Trump, every comedian by and large was terrified of the general public and they refused to treat Trump like a normal human being. It's actually incredibly unfortunate because if you go back and watch Trump on Saturday Night Live, he has a great sense of humor. I think Trump would have been really good on Jimmy Kimmel. I think he would have been really good with Fallon. I think he would have been really good with Stephen Colbert and on Saturday Night Live. Because unlike a lot of politicians, he actually has a good sense of humor about himself. And I have made this argument for a long time on the dictator front. Dictators don't have good senses of humor because humor requires a knowledge and nuance of how you are seen in the world that is at large. And that's why dictators require complete obsequiousness. They require that you basically bend the knee to them all the time, that you genuflect at their photo that's hanging on the wall at their portrait because they have to be seen as larger than you, more important than you. And comedy cuts everybody down to size. This is why having kids, important in many ways. I think kids tell you exactly what they think. Kids and old people, super old people, they're like, I don't give a heck anymore. Super young kids, they don't have the filters built in to say what they think. I remember, I mean, there's tons of things that kids will say But I remember my 3 year old got me, got me good about 7 years ago. The youngest at that time we were playing, he said, dad, I said, yeah. Said, you have old hands. I never thought about my hands in my entire life. Holding them up now for you on video, I was like, what do you mean? He's like, they're wrinkly. They're like old man hands. And I was like, I never even thought about what my hands look like before. I didn't think I was George Costanza hand model. But my 3 year old is like, you know, like, hey, dad, you know, you're not a super young guy anymore. You got old guy hands and it's that puncturing, right? And I'll play you a cut in a little bit of Trump on Air Force One after he was at the UFC 314 with Kai Trump, his granddaughter. The grandkids make fun of him. That's healthy. Yeah, he's the President of the United States, but he's also grandpa and grandma and he and Melania. And so they have normal human interactions. I don't imagine that Kim Jong Un has very many normal interactions. I frankly don't imagine that Vladimir Putin has very many normal human interactions. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is what Bill Maher was getting at here also. He says Trump was gracious and measured and his audience is hearing what is the truth. But much like when I was talking about earlier with George Clooney and the play, they aren't able to see the larger perspective because many of them have bought into the idea that he's Hitler. Listen to cut 14.
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Bill Maher
He said, you know, I've heard from a lot of people who really, who really like that we're having this dinner. Not all, but a lot. And I said same. A lot of people told me they loved it, but not all. And we agreed. The people who don't even want us to talk, we don't like. You don't talk. As opposed to what? Writing the same editorial for the millionth time and making 25 hour speeches into the wind? Okay, that's my report. You can hate me for it, but I'm not a liar. Trump was gracious and measured, and why he isn't that in other settings, I don't know. And I can't answer and it's not my place to answer. I'm just telling you what I saw. And I wasn't high.
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Clay Travis
That's great. And that audience, again, I encourage as many of these outreaches as Trump can do. I think if you meet him Face to face. The caricature that you have built in your mind on the left is not represented by the man that you will meet, I guarantee you that. And we have a tendency in this world, and I try to be conscious of it in the way that I talk to, to build 20 foot tall caricatures of people that are just a few inches deep. In other words, when you walk up to it, it's like you can punch through it and it's paper mache. It looks like this huge statue. Oh, my goodness, look at this. This is 20ft tall. You can't miss it. And then when you're actually confronted with it, you realize there's no depth to it. You can punch right through it and you see the real person on the other side. Now, some people are fake. Many politicians, I would say, are fake because they're desperate to make you like them. They feel like if they pretend to be something, that you will like them. Trump is not that. It's why. He wasn't a professional politician. He is just himself, for better or worse. And I think the reason why he had so much More support by 2024 is a lot of people saw what Bill Maher did, which is that 20 foot caricature that the legacy media were telling you that he's Adolf Hitler, that he's got the Hitler mustache that he's going to. It's not real. It wasn't in any way accurate. And meanwhile, the 20 foot caricature that they tried to create of Joe Biden, which was incredibly beneficial, when you got up close to it, you saw that that was all fake, too. And I've said in my new book that I'm writing, I think this gets to the essence of it. Authentic authenticity ends. Cancel culture. When you are the authentic version of yourself, for better or worse, you can't be canceled in public anymore because people are over it. Now, if you lie, if you are fake, if you are not honest with your audience, then you can be canceled. And I will give you an example that just is historic. Why did Bill Clinton keep his job after he had an affair with an intern in the Oval Office? Bill Clinton slept with an internal. Now you can say, okay, well, that was 1996, 1997. It's a different era, and I think that's true. But the reason why I think he kept his job was because deep down, a lot of people kind of thought that that was something that Bill Clinton might do. You didn't really think, oh, this is a guy who's completely committed to his Wife. You didn't think Bill and Hillary Clinton, this is the greatest couple of our lives. You kind of thought Bill Clinton not really that much into Hillary Clinton. He's probably going to sleep with somebody else while he's president. I think if George W. Bush had done it, might have cost him his job. I think if Barack Obama had done it, might have cost him his job. But Bill Clinton, it actually reflected in some way what we anticipated and believed about him. I think Clinton was authentically himself. I think Al Gore, who tried to replace him, wasn't. I think George W. Bush was. Trump is what you would think he is if you are honest and have been seeing all of the coverage surrounding him. I think what Bill Maher experienced, it's what I've experienced. It's what Buck experienced. It's what most of you would experience if you had the opportunity to meet Trump and if you took your kids or grandkids to meet Trump too. I'm telling you, you would really like him and he would be fabulous with you. That, I believe, is one reason that he's been so successful as a politician. He's actually just kind of a likable guy. And if you remember, before he got into politics, that was his reputation. A little bit of a braggart, a little bit in love with himself. Yeah, you can say that about Trump. I was just playing one of the West Palm beach and he had framed that he was one of the richest people in the world in the, in the locker room, all the different paintings and pictures hanging on the wall. I think a lot of rich people probably wouldn't frame the magazine cover that called them one of the richest people in the world and hang it up in their locker room. But that's Trump. And I think the reason why he's having so much more success in the second term is more and more people are like Bill Maher finding out what the truth is. Look, tax filing deadline for the irs. Good for him for meeting. Good for Trump for meeting. Thank you to Kid Rock, Dana White for setting it up. I think we need way more of this.
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Kirk Cameron
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Clay Travis
When you are the authentic version of yourself, for better or worse, you can't be canceled in public anymore because people are over it now. If you lie, if you are fake, if you are not honest with your audience, then you can be canceled. And I'll give you an example that just is historic. Why did Bill Clinton keep his job after he had an affair with an intern in the Oval Office? Bill Clinton slept with an intern? Now you can say, okay, well that was 1996, 1997. It's a different era, and I think that's true. But the reason why I think he kept his job was because deep down a lot of people kind of thought that that was something that Bill Clinton might do. You didn't really think, oh, this is a guy who's completely committed to his wife. You didn't think Bill and Hillary Clinton, this is the greatest couple of our lives. You kind of thought Bill Clinton not really that much into Hillary Clinton. He's probably going to sleep with somebody else while he's president. I think if George W. Bush had done it, might have cost him his job. I think if Barack Obama had done it, might have cost him his job. But Bill Clinton, it actually reflected in some way what we anticipated and believed about him. I think Clinton was authentically himself. I think Al Gore, who tried to replace him, wasn't. I think George W. Bush was. Trump is what you would think he is if you are honest and have been seeing all of the coverage surrounding him. I think what Bill Maher experienced, it's what I've experienced. It's what Buck experienced. It's what most of you would experience if you had the opportunity to meet Trump and if you took your kids or grandkids to meet Trump, too. I'm telling you, you would really like him and he would be fabulous with you. That, I believe, is one reason that he's been so successful as a politician. He's actually just kind of a likable guy. And if you remember, before he got into politics, that was his reputation. A little bit of a braggart, a little bit in love with himself. Yeah, you can say that about Trump. I was just playing one of the West Palm beach and he had framed that he was one of the richest people in the world in the, in the locker room, all the different paintings and pictures hanging on the wall. I think a lot of rich people probably wouldn't frame the magazine cover that called them one of the richest people in the world and hang it up in their locker room. But that's Trump. And I think the reason why he's having so much more success in the second term is more and more people are like Bill Maher finding out what the truth is. Look, tax filing deadline for the irs. Good for him for meeting. Good for Trump for meeting. Thank you to Kid Rock, Dana White for setting it up. I think we need way more of this. You're enjoying the best of program with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
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Kirk Cameron
We've got Kirk Cameron joining us. He wants to talk to us about an alternative to Disney. Kirk, welcome on the show. Love your work. As you know, we are all big fans going back for a long time. And Brave, tell everybody about Brave for a second here as we dive into the Disney disaster unfolding before our eyes.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, we could talk about that. We're so Sad about Disney not doing well at the box office? Not really. It's like, it's like no surprise we know why parents and families are not showing up to see Snow White. When you take a beloved classic like that and you strip it of what's good and true and beautiful and replace it with people who are promoting all this woke garbage, people don't want to be a part of it. So that's why I'm leaning into the new Mr. Rogers for our kids and grandkids in a new show called Iggy and Mr. Kirk. It's a beautiful kids show that parents can trust without a second thought and it's going to not only entertain kids and engage their imagination, but actually teach them virtue and character.
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Clay Travis
Kirk, are you optimistic? Buck and I had a big conversation about this, obviously this week surrounding the Snow White debacle. Are you optimistic that some of these big companies, even if they don't share the same ideology or political beliefs, are recognizing that a lot of the shows that were universal and you were in one of them, Growing Pains, the Cosby Show, Family Ties, different, different strokes. I mean those shows were made for everybody 8 to 80, and I don't remember them having major political commentary. I feel like you could sit down and watch them with your kids, your grandkids and everybody can enjoy them. Are we potentially headed more towards that era, the 80s, the 90s, when the goal was to try to entertain as many people as possible with generally wholesome ideas about innate American goodness? I mean, could that be coming back?
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Buck Sexton
I hope so. And I hope it gets even better than the 80s. I hope we actually take it to the next level. But who knows? I mean, I was listening earlier to that guy that called in and he's got a 39 year old girlfriend who was hoping for the assassination of Trump and Elon Musk. What do you do with something like that? It's like, well, wait a minute, like how do you even reason with a person like that? That is just beyond, you know, sane thinking. I mean, she's a 39 year old. I don't know the woman. But you know, when you're holding the government accountable to not spend trillions of dollars more than it makes. And you know, do you see Jon Stewart's reaction to what was going on with some of these policies?
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Like, holy cow, you'd wonder, like, is he just having the light bulb come on now? I don't know. I sure hope that people are waking up and that they'll, they'll listen to common sense and reason and that we can get back to the values that lead to healthy families and good relationships and wholesomeness and fun. But you never know. There's just craziness out there. And of course, that's what the radical political folks want to do, is they want to. They want the people on the other side of the aisle to think they're the ones who are crazy. So I think at the end of the day, the beauty of the way the world works is that kids actually show up in homes with moms and dads. They're not produced and owned by the government. And unless we give our kids over to the government for bad stuff, we have the opportunity to actually teach them what's good and true and wholesome and right in our homes. And we've got to do that by the stories we tell them, by the things that we say to them at the kitchen table and the songs we sing them when they go to sleep at night. And that's what I'm trying to lean into. I'm 54, I got six kids and a granddaughter, and I want to be a part of bringing our culture back to what is wholesome and good.
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Clay Travis
Kirk, you moved to Nashville, I believe, recently. It feels like there are places maybe outside of New York and la, that, and I'm sure there's some of this in New York and la, too, but where there's green shoots of sanity, I would call it. Nashville feels like one of those places. I think maybe it's partly related to country music, where certainly the average country music singer and listener is different than the average pop or rap or R and B artist, typically in terms of their politics in the audience that they speak to. I think it means that a city like Nashville, where I live in, is more welcoming of diverse entertainment viewpoints maybe, than others. Have you found that to be true? Do you see other cities and states developing as entertainment capitals, maybe different than the New York cities and LA's of years past?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, that's one of the really cool things about technology, with all of its bad qualities. There's, there's also new opportunities for people. You can live anywhere now, and you can be a content creator. You, you, you. You don't have to be in Hollywood under the contract of a big studio. You can have your own show. You can be, you know, and, and that's what people are doing. And in Nashville and, and the surrounding areas, there's so many creatives, there's so many people who are promoting so many good things. I mean, the Daily Wire folks are right up here, if you like the Daily Wire, there's so many country singers, but also so many faith based operations, movie makers like the Irwin brothers, Dave Ramsey's right out here, you got Chris Stapleton. Right down the road you've got, I mean, it's just, it's, it's weird. You walk into the grocery store and you know, there's Carrie Underwood, you know, in the cereal aisle. And you end up having these really cool conversations with a lot of people. And by and large people are wanting to get back to those kinds of Americana, pro family, pro country, pro God messages. And nobody's perfect. No place is perfect. You know, they've got an acute taste for whiskey out here in Tennessee and it's good whiskey. And that can lead to a lot of problems for people in the entertainment industry. But that's going to be true everywhere. I'm thankful that we're here. I miss the California sunshine, but I really love the people in Tennessee.
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Kirk Cameron
We're talking to Kirk Cameron. Well, no Kirk Cameron, he's got Brave, a streaming, streaming channel. Creative stuff for kids. Kirk and I know that creating our own stuff is a very important part of all of this. I know that that's something that has been happening. You're doing that with Brave and streaming service. I'm also, though, curious the degree to which the winds have shifted enough that maybe now conversations with some of the very established players in the entertainment space, you know, basically, do you think that we're at a place now different than we were even a year ago, where maybe you could go to Disney executive and say, hey, I'm Kirk Cameron, I know how to do this stuff. Let's make a series that all kids of all races and religions and, you know, people of different backgrounds, etcetera, will just enjoy.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I think that, I think that is possible. And with, with the success of shows that the big studios never thought would do anything, for example, the Chosen, that's become a cultural phenomenon. I mean that's just, that's, that's everywhere now and it's in the theater, it's on streaming services. You know, they, they, they broke away and now they're doing their own thing. And everybody wishes that they could do what the Chosen did. And this is about the life of Jesus and his friends. I mean, who would have thunk? But, but now they're realizing maybe we missed something here. And so people want to make money. I don't think at the very heart of the leadership of these big companies, you know, Disney or those that fund them. I Remember seeing a video with Larry think is that if I got the right guy, if I got the blackrock. Blackrock.
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Kirk Cameron
Yeah, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And there was a video and they were just talking about Target and you know, you know, is Target going to come around to really listen to their customers and that they don't want trans bathing suits for their five year olds. And ultimately he was saying that, you know, Target and these big companies, they're not operating just off of the profits from the, from the customers. They're actually operating off of these giant funds that give them capital. And there's politicians who are funding the funds, who are winning based off of political ideology and they're forcing them to stick with that ideology or lose their capital. So it gets like layered and, you know, goes way up into areas that I'm not all that familiar with. But who knows? I don't think we should wait around for Disney and other big places to answer the clue phone. I think we as moms and dads and as good citizens need to understand that this isn't China where we have a dictator and a few of their friends make everything happen. I think this is the United States of America where we have a representative government that should represent our values. And the way they figure those values out is by watching how we do things at the grassroots level and we hold them accountable. Once we do that now we can start making our own, our own schools, our own companies, our own everything. And that's what I see happening. And I'm really excited about that.
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Clay Travis
Kirk, you're a student of media and entertainment and obviously you're having a lot of success with what you're building. What do you think Walt Disney would think if he looked back at the Disney Corporation now that he put his heart and soul into found? What do you think his reaction would be to the modern corporation?
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Buck Sexton
You know, I was just watching some reaction videos of Joe Rogan reacting to something or Jon Stewart reacting to something. And wouldn't that be a great reaction video?
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Walt Disney reacting to Snow White today. I mean, he would lose his mind because, you know, I don't know the man personally, but certainly the branding for Walt Disney and Walt Disney World and Disneyland, where I grew up going, it should be the happiest place on earth. And I think Disney today would make him cry because it's.
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Clay Travis
I think you're right. Back in the day, I think you're right. I mean, the man put his heart and soul, he mortgaged his house to be able to make the 1937 Walt Disney Snow White movie. And he built his entire career on, to your point, Kirk, trying to make Disney the happiest place on earth. And I think they've totally destroyed the brand that he built. And I would think it would make him sick.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah. And if we're not careful, you know, because we, we who have good values have gotten out of places of leadership in Hollywood, in Washington D.C. you know, politics, education, we've outsourced that stuff to other people. People with lesser ideas are really not just destroying a brand like Disney, but destroying the whole concept of, of those who gave us this country. And when you go back to the Founding Fathers and the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, these are revolutionary ideas that brought more freedom, more opportunity, more blessing to the world. And now we've got kids growing up thinking that the United States of America is about white supremacy. They have a completely wrong understanding of things because of the propaganda that's being foisted on them in these places of leadership and, you know, culture shaping institutions. So if, if, if we do love this country, if we do love the values that it's built on, if we really think that those values lead to blessing, and we need more stuff like Mr. Rogers and we need stuff like Iggy and Mr. Kirk and companies like Brave Books, then we need to support them, we need to get behind them, and we need to start making more of them.
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Kirk Cameron
How do folks go to Brave to stream some shows for their kids that you're working on? And I've created Kirk.
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Buck Sexton
Just download the Brave plus app on your smart TV. Just download the app, it's called Brave Plus. And you can watch the first three episodes of my new kids TV show, Iggy and Mr. Kirk, for free. And then if you want to see the other 20 episodes, we've got two full seasons already, complete episodes on forgiveness and teaching your kids about kindness, compassion, overcoming your fears, working together as a team, faithfulness. Then you can just subscribe. And there's over 50 shows for kids, including old classics like Bob the Builder, Strawberry Shortcake. Again, these are for little kids 4 to 8 years old. And then new shows like Iggy and Mr. Kirk.
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Kirk Cameron
Wonderful. Kirk Cameron, appreciate you, sir. Thanks for being here with us.
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Buck Sexton
Appreciate both of you guys. Thanks so much.
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Kirk Cameron
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. All right, I'm getting teed off on a lot of people, variety of different perspectives. Let's let them tee off. Um, Houston listener Angela. Somehow Buck led me over the middle asking me the difference between square dancing and line dancing, and I didn't have any idea what it was. And Angela, she's not happy. Let's listen.
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Molly Roberts
Hey, guys. Angela from Houston. Love you guys. Love your show. Listen daily. Okay, gentlemen, the difference between square dancing and line dancing is square dancing is with a partner. Line dancing is all on your own and I'm shamed that you being in Tennessee do not know that. Have a great day, boys.
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Clay Travis
Thank you, Angela. I do. I deserve to be shamed for it. I she explained it very easily. That makes total sense.
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Kirk Cameron
Kind of pulling your. She's kind of pulling your Tennessee card. You're getting your Tennessee card suspended there, Mr. Nashville.
- [46:52]
Clay Travis
I know, born and raised here. I don't have a good excuse. I don't have a good excuse for not knowing Eric. By the way, I asked this question of Kirk Cameron, which by the way, if you had told me, hey, yeah, Kirk Cameron, just going to come on the show every now and then, when I was watching Growing Pains back in the day, I would have been like, no way. I mean, I love that show. Eric in Wisconsin says he's got family. His uncle worked directly for the Disney Brothers Walton. Roy. Walt was the creative. Roy was the business side of that studio. Eric, what did you want to fill us in on?
- [47:23]
Buck
Well, hey, gentlemen, it's great to be on your show. And yes, my uncle, he didn't work directly with Walt, he worked with Roy, but he knew Walt personally and he knew Roy. And these were very kind and gentlemen, just like my uncle and my uncle's been passed away for a number of years. But in working directly with them, he's told me what they were like and there's just no doubt in anybody's mind who knows what they're talking about that these men would be turning over in their graves right now if they saw what happened to their company. And it's just, it's terrible. It's terrible to watch.
- [47:59]
Clay Travis
Thank you for the call. I appreciate your feedback and I think that's definitely true. Wide variety of topics people want to weigh in. And Mary in South Carolina, what you got for us?
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J
Hi there gentlemen. Great to be on your show. Hey, I wanted to comment on the SUV, the short women driving SUVs and the square dancing thing. I am also 5 foot 2 woman, been driving some version of an SUV or 12 passenger van for the last 30 years. And the secret is, or the tip is that hood ornament or that middle mound in the hood that lines up with the curb or the shoulder line or just the side of the road if you're going through a narrow part of traffic.
- [48:44]
Clay Travis
By the way, do you. I'm sorry to cut you off, but are you like my wife? For people who are 52 driving big SUVs, this is like a major issue that nobody talks about. Like you guys have legit trouble seeing over the hood.
- [48:54]
J
Well, oh, absolutely. You can't see over the hood. The women at church used to chuckle every time they see me get out of the Suburban.
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Kirk Cameron
Hey, Care Bear, how tall are you?
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Clay Travis
Buck tailing and his wife to see 5:3.
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Kirk Cameron
So basically the same size.
- [49:10]
Clay Travis
But has she ever driven? It's got to be a Suburban. It's got to be an Escalade, one of these big big suv when you have a bunch of kids, I'll get a driver's not gonna be able to drive all of a sudden.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Molly Roberts
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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