Hour 2 - The Crazy Ones

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 – The Crazy Ones
Date: October 27, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dive into the hottest stories shaping American politics and culture. Kicking off with the so-called “crazy” rallies in New York City and the messaging of progressive Democrats such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), the hosts dissect debates around rent control, party messaging, cultural depictions of fathers, and the shifting landscape of the Democratic Party. With humor and sharp-tongued critique, Clay and Buck deliver a fast-paced breakdown of current political battles, generational divides, and some relationship advice along the way.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. “We Are Not the Crazy Ones”: Progressive Rallies and Messaging (02:31–06:43)

• Clay and Buck react to AOC’s impassioned claim at a rally: the left is not “crazy,” despite being labeled as such by critics.
• They discuss rising progressive influence in New York City politics, especially the endorsement of Mamdani.
• Notable Quote:
  AOC (quoted by Clay): “We are not the crazy ones New York City. We are not the outlandish ones New York City. They want us to think we are crazy. We are sane.” (03:23)
• Commentary:
  Clay responds with irony, “Yes, yes, you are all very sane,” before picking apart progressive policy arguments.

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2. The Economics of Rent Control: A “Lunatic Idea” (03:45–09:58)

• Clay forcefully critiques rent control as economically destructive, arguing that limiting prices without increasing supply exacerbates housing shortages:
  • Freezing rent, he says, reduces landlord incentive, removes properties from the market, and ultimately pushes rents higher by decreasing supply.
• Buck adds that government-imposed regulations and fees constitute 40% (or more) of multi-family housing development costs, especially in New York.
  • Regulation, high labor costs, zoning, and union mandates are major barriers to increasing housing supply.
  • Buck compares rent control to Venezuela’s failed price controls.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Clay Travis: “Freezing rent is actually the most destructive thing you could do if you believe you have major issues with rent in the city… the only way to drive down cost is to increase the supply of a good by and large.” (04:35)
  • Buck Sexton: “One of the primary ways that Chavez and then Maduro destroyed the Venezuelan economy was price controls… No one can actually [buy them]. Their shelves are empty. Right? This is what is going on in the New York City housing market writ large.” (08:13)

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3. Democrat Brand Crisis and Self-Analysis (09:58–13:37)

• Clay references a Democratic self-study, discussed in Semaphore, showing that the party’s embrace of left-wing rhetoric has alienated many voters:
  • 70% of surveyed voters see Democrats as “out of touch.”
  • A significant rise in messaging on climate and LGBTQ+ rights, with a notable drop in language about men, fathers, and responsibility.
  • The party’s losses are attributed not to poor communication, but to active voter rejection of their positions.
• Notable Quote:
  Clay Travis: “The reason they’re losing elections is not because voters aren’t hearing their message. It’s because voters are hearing their message and they are profoundly rejecting it.” (11:11)

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4. Dads in Pop Culture: Where Did They Go? (13:00–17:12)

• Buck shifts to a discussion on the erasure or negative depiction of fathers in modern television and film, reminiscing about past portrayals (e.g., Coach Eric Taylor, The Cosby Show, Fresh Prince):
  • Modern media, they argue, often portrays dads as buffoons or absentees, with more focus on powerful mothers or “moms pretending to be dads.”
  • Both hosts lament the lack of positive, masculine father figures onscreen, despite knowing involved dads in real life.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Buck Sexton: “There’s so many things out there in entertainment where the dad is like this bumbling buffoon, or the dad is an absentee… and you say to yourself, this doesn’t have to be this way.” (15:21)
  • Clay Travis: “There are probably more father figures very involved in raising their kids today than there were when you and I grew up. And yet they are completely without representation in modern pop culture.” (16:39)

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5. Demographics of Protests and White Liberal Women (17:12–18:52)

• Buck highlights that the most overrepresented demographic at certain left-wing protests (“No Kings” protests) is "middle-aged white women.”
  • Clay agrees, saying he “would have bet a lot of money that was the answer.”
• Leads into broader commentary on political monoculture and the rise of an assertive left in heavily Democratic areas such as New York City.

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6. The State of the Democratic Party & 2024 Speculation (22:22–30:29)

• Buck points out that, far from moderating after a poor national showing, Democrats in left strongholds are doubling down on progressive policies.
• Clay raises the topic of Kamala Harris’ future as a presidential contender, playing clips from her BBC interview where she signals she may run again:
  • Harris says, “I am not done.” (26:04)
  • When told she is considered an “outsider” even behind Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson in betting odds, Harris demurs, “I’ve never listened to polls. If I listened to polls, I wouldn’t be sitting here in this interview.” (26:41)
• Buck and Clay mock the idea that random celebrities now outpoll Harris in betting markets.
• Gavin Newsom rises as the betting favorite for Democratic nominee, followed by AOC, Kamala, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, and others.

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7. Relationships, Modern Masculinity, and Pop Culture (30:29–38:55)

• Clay and Buck riff (with humor) about relationships, warning single men against women who say, “I’m not crazy,” and mock the idea of men taking their wives’ last names.
  • Long engagements and prenup agreements are debated.
    • Buck: “I am not a prenup guy. I mean, I guess I’m admitting something very personal on the air here, but unless you’re like a Rockefeller… I don’t think prenups are the move.” (35:10)
    • Clay: “If one of [my sons] came to me and said, Dad, I am giving up the Travis name and I’m taking my fiancée’s name instead. I would say, you’re out of the will.” (32:47)
• They touch on public figures, such as AOC’s engagement, gender role reversals, and changing norms around marriage.

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8. Call-in Segment: The Other Sextons and Sports Agents (44:53–46:09)

• A caller asks if Buck is related to famous sports agent Jimmy Sexton—he’s not.
• Clay notes he’s met the “awesome guy” and shares a quick aside about college football connections.

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Tone & Style

The tone throughout is fast-paced, witty, and conversational—with an edge of sarcasm and cultural critique aimed primarily at the American political left and progressive activists. Clay and Buck blend personal anecdotes, cultural commentary, and political analysis, peppering the episode with humorous asides and banter that keep the show lively.

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• AOC Rally Quote:
  “We are not the crazy ones New York City. We are not the outlandish ones New York City. They want us to think we are crazy. We are sane.” – AOC (as played by Clay, 03:23)
• Clay on Rent Control:
  “Freezing rent is actually the most destructive thing you could do… [It] is a lunatic idea.” (04:35)
• Buck on Bureaucratic Barriers:
  “40% of the cost [of new multifamily housing]… is taxes, regulations, fees. And there are reasons for that.” (06:43)
• Clay on Democratic Messaging:
  “The reason they’re losing elections is not because voters aren’t hearing their message. It’s because voters are hearing their message and, and they are profoundly rejecting it.” (11:11)
• Buck on Dads in Entertainment:
  “There’s so many things out there in entertainment where the dad is like this bumbling buffoon, or the dad is an absentee.” (15:21)
• Kamala Harris on 2024 Run:
  “I have lived my entire career, a life of service, and it's in my bones… I am not done.” (26:04)
• Buck on Relationship Red Flags:
  “If your girlfriend ever says to you, 'I’m not crazy,' you probably need to find a new girlfriend… If she feels the need to tell you she’s not crazy, you’re in trouble.” (30:10)
• Clay on Men Taking Wives’ Names:
  “If one of [my sons]… said, 'Dad, I have decided that I’m going to give up our name… and I’m taking my fiancée’s name instead,' I would say you’re out of the will.” (32:47)

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Major Segments and Timestamps

• 02:31 – 03:45: Reaction to AOC’s “We are not crazy” statement and progressive rallies
• 03:45 – 09:58: In-depth deconstruction of rent control and NY housing policy
• 09:58 – 13:37: Democrat messaging crisis, Semaphore report, and party realignment
• 13:00 – 17:12: Dads in pop culture and the erasure of masculine role models
• 22:22 – 30:29: Democratic Party, Kamala Harris’ ambitions, 2024 speculation
• 30:29 – 38:55: Relationship banter—prenups, engagements, and gender dynamics
• 44:53 – 46:09: Listener calls, Sexton surname trivia, and college football agent connections

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers a sharp critique of progressive urban politics and Democratic strategy, raises concerns about lost cultural values, and provides a dose of male perspective on modern relationships and masculinity. Punctuated by humor and memorable zingers, Clay and Buck’s chemistry drives a show that’s as entertaining as it is ideologically pointed.

For listeners who missed the episode, this summary conveys the content, tone, and takeaways—controversies, critiques, cultural shifts, and the quirks of American political debate, Clay and Buck style.

Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Yes, yes, you are all very sane. Let's talk about some of these things. Buck that I, I, I do worry because some arguments are so dumb that I don't understand how a major political party can make them. And let me take a step back and say some things you and I disagree with in policy perspectives. But you can make a reasonable argument that you or I or wrong or that some of you out there are right or wrong. There's lots of reasonable minds can differ perspectives. Freezing rent is actually the most destructive thing you could do if you believe you have major issues with, with rent in the city. The thing I mean this is just basic economics and I know a lot of you get this, but maybe your kids don't, maybe your grandkids don't and you have to succinctly kind of explain why this is a lunatic idea. Here is just a simple argument. It's all supply and demand. Everything in life is supply and demand. If you want rent to come down, then you have to build more apartments and, and or kick illegals that are using these apartments out. This is very basic. It is the essence of economics itself. The only way to drive down cost is to increase the supply of a good by and large. And yet they are simultaneously making it very hard to construct new housing and telling the people who do own the housing, we're going to restrict what you can charge, which means the cost is going to continue to go up for those who own these rental properties. The maintenance costs are going to continue to go up. Inflation is not stopping for them, which means their profit margin is going to go down, which means the quality of the rental property will either decline or unfortunately, some of these properties will just be taken off the market because a landlord will throw up their hands and say I'm losing money by renting this property out. If they have the ability to do so they'll just pull it off the market, which will mean that rents are continuing to increase overall because the supply is declining. What, what is what? What? I don't even understand the argument that a rational human being could make that frees the rent is in any way beneficial for people can. Even if you believe that rental costs are too high. I mean, you lived in New York City. I see what people have to pay for homes in New York City to rent. Just, we have to build way more homes. I mean, I don't understand how this is not the ultimate solution.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, so there's a few things here for, for everyone I think to consider. One is this was even higher than I thought it was. If you were to just take a quick, a quick look at what the cost of new multifamily is in this country nationwide on average, and how much of that is taxes, regulations, fees, meaning not just, oh, I want to hire people and get stuff to make a home and you know, buy land, hire a construction crew, have them make it and sell it. But all the other things estimate that I just found on online, just with a quick search, clay, is 40%, 40% of the cost. I tried to find a specific New York City cost and all they can really say is that it, whatever it is, it's higher than 40%. And there are reasons for that. There are reasons for this one thing, by the way, in New York City, building codes alone, building codes are 11% of the cost. Inclusionary zoning mandates are 7% of the cost. You know, you go through these things. Well, hold on a second. And another one is again talking multifamily here, right? Because that's the only way you got to build up in New York for it to be worth, worthwhile in New York City. It's very hard if, you know, you're not building like a, you know, on two acres, a single family home, unless you're going to sell it for 20 million bucks. So they look at this, or rather you look at this and you find out that also the fact that New York City labor costs are so high and that there's all these union mandates for labor and you have all these things and these are the reasons that there's not more housing supply and the idea of freezing rent makes it worse. Give you an example of this, everybody. You could look at a lot of things that ruin the economy. I mean, Venezuela is now a failed state. Maybe it's going to get a new regime soon. It's a failed state. It's a narco trafficker state and we don't even hear about the economy anymore. One, because I think it's so hard to get real numbers, but it's been completely destroyed. One of the primary ways that Chavez and then Maduro destroyed the Venezuelan economy was price controls. Because people who are hurting and who don't have very much hear, hey, these guys are going to use government force to say that the cost of this washing machine isn't $300, it's $100. And that sounds great, right? Oh my gosh, now my wash, they mandated and only the fat cats are going to pay. You know what happens, Clay? No one can buy a washing machine anymore. No one can actually. Their shelves are empty. Right? This is what is going on in the New York City housing market writ large. And yet Mamdani is about to become mayor thinking that this stuff is the answer. It is so destructive, it is so damaging, and it's essentially a repudiation of the free market replaced with social justice. It's commie nonsense.

[Clay Travis]

This is also why the Democrat party's overall brand is collapsing. As we were talking Buck, the the media company Semaphore posted a a new story that I thought was pretty interesting. This is a Democrat study. Why are they so rotten? What, what is the takeaway here? Uh, and the headline is left wing ideas have wrecked Democrats brand new report warns. And this is the Democrat party's own study. Um, Democrats have badly weakened their party with left leaning ideas and rhetoric growing only I bet this ties in with your no kings protest with self described white liberals while losing ground with other voters. According to a center left group's report shared first with Semaphore. The group, which is called welcome, consulted hundreds of thousands of voters over six months for a broad finding, including 70%. 70% of voters think the Democrat party is quote, out of touch. Most voters, the group found, believe the party over prioritizes issues like protecting the rights of LGBTQ + Americans fighting climate change while not caring about securing the border or lowering the rate of crime. And as a result they say that they have completely misjudged the audience as a whole and that, I mean, I think they're right on this, Buck. The reason they're losing elections is not because voters aren't hearing their message. It's because voters are hearing their message and, and they are profoundly rejecting it. And the data in here is really just kind of very fascinating to see. And for instance, they talk about racial groups. 828% more in the Democrat Party now, Buck, compared to in 2012. Think about some of this stuff. They talk about environmental justice, 333% more. They talk about LGBTQ rights, 1044% more. And mentions of men and fathers have fallen in the Democrat party platform by 63%, 100%. On fathers and responsibility, the word responsibility has collapsed by 83%. This probably doesn't stun you, and it probably doesn't shock a lot of our audience, but it is interesting that Democrats are now recognizing how toxic their own messaging has become.

[Buck Sexton]

One thing I thought about over the weekend, this is an aside. It's like I'm doing a soliloquy on the radio. Here is how rare it is for there to be in any kind of entertainment. I, you know, Carrie went to sleep, and so when she goes to bed before me, I watch anything that I know she hates, like sci fi. So I tried out the Halo show on. On Netflix because I know the video game, you know, it's okay. But I was thinking about this because, you know, the guy, the lead guys, you know, badass and the whole thing. I thought, you know what, how many shows are there, that show. But you don't know anything about this guy's family or anything. But how many shows are there where the dad is actually somebody?

[Clay Travis]

I've been preaching this as a dad.

[Buck Sexton]

That you're like, that's a. You know, the closest thing I can think of would be years ago. I mean, I think coach Eric Taylor in. In Friday Night Lights was like. Was a really solid dad. You know, masculine, good at his job, take care of his family. You know, he was a solid dad. I think that was one of the kind of subtle but strong appeals of that show. Now, he does move in the end because his wife's career forces him to. Sorry, spoiler alert. But I feel like he's a, you know, he's a solid dad. Right? There's so many things out there in entertainment where the dad is like, this is like this bumbling buffoon, or the dad is an absentee. Well, depends. You have a lot of. A lot of divorce and absentee dads if the dad is white. In media, you see a lot of that. And in media, that's. That's the depiction of it. And you sit there and you say to yourself, this doesn't have to be this way. Back to the demographics, though, because you opened the door to this. Now, I'm going back on track here with you, Clay. But, yeah, just someone let me know if there is a great show where there's a dad that you're like, this is a dad that American men should look up to.

[Clay Travis]

Or I opened. I opened. Or one of our hours that you were out on this exact thing. There's a clip up, I think, on YouTube. You're hitting on something, I think independent, because I think you were out. We have effectively written dads out of.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm not able to listen to show when I'm out on. No, no, no. This is new.

[Clay Travis]

You have. We have effectively. And I argue about this in the new book that I've got. We've effectively written men out of pop culture Dads. You have extremely powerful moms. Moms that do a great job. Like, it's the foundation, I would argue. But it's not just that we've written them out now, Buck. It's that it's a repudiation of everything we grew up.

[Buck Sexton]

They also have moms that are kind of pretending to be dads, which is a whole other. That's a whole part of the total.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, you're trying to fill both. Both roles, but, I mean. And it's a repudiation of the era in which we grew up when. And again, I'm not saying that Bill Cosby. I'm talking about the show, the Cosby Show, Growing Pains, Full House, where they wrote the moms out. Like you run through most of 80s and 90s of Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Family Matters, white and black dads that were incredibly prominent.

[Buck Sexton]

The dad Taylor. Yeah, the dads were real dads who commanded respect. We've completely. I didn't know you were talking about this, but this is something that I really think about, because if I'm going through shows that I'm going to watch, I don't consume a lot of pop culture when I do it. Just all these dads. And it's weird, too, because I know so many. I know dads who are, you know, fantastic providers, fantastic husbands. You know, they're trying to be in great shape and be strong. And, you know, they're. They're. They got cool hobbies and they want to teach their boys, and they're taking them hunting or they're taking them fishing. You know, I know dads like that, and yet I see no dads like that in the media. So I know they exist in the wild because I have friends who are like that. Meanwhile, no depictions whatsoever.

[Clay Travis]

You can even argue, because I know we got to go to breakback, but this is something I'm fired up about. You can even argue that dads today are more involved with their kids than dads in the 60s, 70s, 80s were when it was much more of a mom's at home and dad is always out of the house. I would argue to your point, there are probably more father figures very involved in raising their kids today than there were when you and I grew up. And yet they are completely without representation in modern pop culture.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, who is the or what is the most overrepresented demographic at the no Kings protest? I'll throw this out there and then we'll get into it some more middle aged white women everybody. Middle aged white women.

[Clay Travis]

I would have bet a lot of money that was the answer.

[Buck Sexton]

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Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox One, we live for live streaming now. All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Got a pretty quick turnaround, so let's just set this up. Let's get into this now. The populace left is on the move. You've got a whole bunch of major figures of the Democrat socialist side of things coming forward for this guy Mamdani. And it's indicative, I think, of what you're going to see a lot more of which is Democrats who on the in the purple states, they're going to be pretending that they're not like this. And in places like New York where they have a total political monoculture, the left is ascendant within the Democrat Party after this election. Clay, someone might have thought you could have made the assessment. I don't think we did, but one could have made the assessment, oh, the Democrats are gonna have to moderate now. The Democrats are gonna have to, I mean, things are getting so crazy that Kamala Harris is even leaving open the possibility of running again in the next election cycle in her most recent interview, which was very bothersome, I must say, because that's a very expensive thing for me. If she does run, she's going to run.

[Clay Travis]

You're going to have to buy me another steak. We come back, we will have some fun with Gavin Newsom and some of the comments that he made recently about growing up poor. Yeah, he tried that. We will also get a ton of your reactions. But in the meantime, if you live in a neighborhood where you don't have to lock your door at night, even in those places, you might have some issues. I was reading, Buck, Miami beach, one of the most wealthy areas of Miami beach, they're trying to shut down. Front page article in the Wall Street Journal. They're trying to shut down the road there in Miami beach because they've had so many different high end cars being stolen out of people's front yards. Even private security isn't enough. Would you like to be able to provide the best possible security for you and your family, particularly as we come up on the holiday season and so many people are going to be traveling, living in different places. Pepper spray, also the projectile launchers. But take care of your family. We've got every one of these [e-mail] you can get 15% off on that website today. That's sabre radio.com 844-824 safe sabre radio.com get hooked up today. Welcome back in. Buck just mentioned that he keeps losing stakes to me. And you know, this is just what I do, just rack up steak bet wins. I was kicking back over the weekend just thinking about what exact cut of fabulous steak I might be most interested in for a nice winter getaway down to the warm environs of Miami Beach. And I'll be damned if my good friend Kamala Harris didn't travel over the pond and decide to sit down for a BBC interview about her magisterial work. 107 days reviewed here by our esteemed host, co host here, Buck Sexton. And Kamala Harris said she's been so impressed at how much Buck liked her book and she has decided that she maybe should go ahead and run for president again. Cut eight.

[BBC Interviewer]

Your baby nieces, Amara and Leila, when are they going to see a woman in charge in the White House?

[Kamala Harris]

In their lifetime for sure.

[BBC Interviewer]

Could it be you?

[Kamala Harris]

Possibly.

[BBC Interviewer]

Have you made a decision yet?

[Kamala Harris]

No, I have not.

[BBC Interviewer]

But you say in your book I'm not done.

[Kamala Harris]

That is correct. I am not done. I have lived my entire career, a life of service, and it's in my bones. And there are many ways to serve. I have not decided yet what I will do in the future beyond what I am doing right now.

[BBC Interviewer]

But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you might run again to become president. And in my experience interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done, it means they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look at the bookies odds, they put you as an outsider even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean, is that underestimating you?

[Kamala Harris]

I think there are all kinds of polls that will tell you a variety of things. I've never listened to polls. If I listen to polls, I would have not run for my first office or my second office and I certainly wouldn't be sitting here in this interview.

[Clay Travis]

All right, Bob, behind.

[Buck Sexton]

Hold on a second. Steak man behind Dwayne the I'm going to run for any office. The Rock Johnson. Okay. So before you start sharpening your steak knife, sir, for what won't be determined for at least another year and a half. Let's just be clear. She should her numbers now should be the best. They're the best. They're likely to be because the more people think about what a disaster she was as she gears up to run again, I think the worse it gets for her. Clay, she is behind random. She was the vice president for four years and she is now, according to you, like the poll, I mean, the betting sites. According to the betting sites, random celebrity movie stars are more likely to run and be the nominee than Kamala Harris.

[Clay Travis]

I don't know exactly which site she was this British interviewer for the BBC was citing and I wanted to look them up and I will, in fact look them up while we are talking. She's going to run. And I just come back to she has nothing else. And I know we've joked about they wouldn't even let her be the president of UCLA or the chancellor, whatever it's called, of UCLA or of Cal Berkeley. But I don't think there's any doubt she might be able to get ucsb. It's a great spot. Nothing against ucsb, but she needs this because there is nothing else. She has nothing else. She's sitting around, she's bored. She has no, in fact other things going on. Here is what the latest odds are. So this is the US Gavin Newsom and we'll play some Gavin Newsom cuts for you next hour because he is an alleged liar, the likes of which I'm not. Ole Agonist.

[Buck Sexton]

Are you going oleaginous? Oleaginous.

[Clay Travis]

I'm not great at pronouncing words. I read way more than I listen. So this has to happen to you all the time too, Buck. I know words and I can spell them and I can use them in written context, but a lot of times I've never heard them actually used. And so some of them I love just the way that one flows. Ole. Agonists. Oh, such a great word, but I don't know how to pronounce it. He is unctuous. I think I got that one right.

[Buck Sexton]

That's a very. That's a very good one. That's a fun word. You know. You know who's really Captain Unctuous? Gavin Newsom. He's really.

[Clay Travis]

That's what I'm saying. That's what. He is the most unctuous of the political class. He is the favorite. Right now, buck. Right now, 34% chance that Gavin Newsom, according to the gambling markets, is the next Democrat nominee. Followed by we just played the cut. We're not crazy. They want you to think that we're crazy. Which sounds like a lot of 25 year old girlfriends you guys might have had. At some point in your life. You're the crazy one. I'm not crazy. You're. You're crazy. AOC 11%. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm just gonna tell you something.

[Clay Travis]

How many girls, by the way?

[Buck Sexton]

I just gotta jump in. I gotta help the single guys. There's not a lot of you out there listening, but there are some. The single guys out there. If your girlfriend ever says to you, I'm not crazy, you probably need to find a new girlfriend. All right, I'm just telling you, if she feels the need to tell you she's not crazy, you're in trouble.

[Clay Travis]

One of the first signs that she is, in fact crazy, which is when I saw that clip of AOC saying, they want you to think that we're crazy, but we're not crazy. No, you're actually crazy. What is the aoc? Boyfriend. She married now, right? Didn't she marry a ginger white guy? Ginger white guy, husband. She's married, I think, right?

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know if they're married.

[Clay Travis]

I think they're married. I think she married a ginger, ginger white guy. Good for him. And because I. I remember the photos and everything else. Poor guy. Kamala Harris, third place. Right now she's tied with Mayor Pete and your boy, Wes Moore. And then John Ossoff, who is running for reelection as a senator from Georgia. Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Bashir. That is roughly the top 10. Oh, my bad. She is not married. The ginger. They are just engaged. Producer Ali says, what are the chances?

[Buck Sexton]

What are the chances that he takes her last name?

[Clay Travis]

Hi.

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[Clay Travis]

What is. What is this guy? Do we know the. Do we know the fiance's name? Can I get research on it? I'm just trying to. His last name is Roberts. What? Do we know his first name?

[Buck Sexton]

So, so with that, then would he then be Roberts Ocasio Cortez? Would we go three triple name, triple names?

[Clay Travis]

His first name is Riley. If I were going to pick a Democrat that would be engaged to aoc, Riley would be one of the top names. I would go with Riley Roberts. Riley Roberts Ocasio Cortez. I mean, I wish him well. I read a story about this buck. You were saying, if a woman says, I'm not crazy, you know, run in the other direction. She's probably crazy. Some men are taking women's last names now. I think I would disown my sons. I mean, I have three boys. I think if one of them came to me and said, dad, I am getting married and I am Taking my new wives last name as my own. I would certainly not pay for the wedding. And I might take him out of the will. I mean that's. Some of you out there might say.

[Buck Sexton]

Which would actually be meaningful for the Travis boys.

[Clay Travis]

I'm just saying Travis boy. I mean I got three.

[Buck Sexton]

They want the, they want that, you know that outkick money. They don't want to get cut out of the will. That would be bad.

[Clay Travis]

If one of them came to me and said dad, I'm so excited I'm engaged. I said congratulations. And then they said and Dad, I have decided that I'm going to give up our name. I'm going to give up the Travis name and I'm taking my fiance's name instead. I would say you're out of the will. So this Riley guy, I bet Riley's going to do it. I bet he's going to be okay. Zo Tortez.

[Buck Sexton]

I, I back. I back you on, on your assessment of that entirely. And little speed, Jimmy Speed. Same, same rule is going to apply. I can't take the woman's name as he. But that, that's, that's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.

[Clay Travis]

I can't imagine it happening. But, but this Riley Roberts guy, he may do it. He's going to be Riley Ocasio Cortez.

[Buck Sexton]

That, that I would not, not be surprised. He's going to spend a lot of time explaining why he took AOC's last name and why he's in photos in the background holding her purse. Nonetheless, the engagement. April 2022. Been engaged for going on four years. Ah, you know, I'm just.

[Clay Travis]

How long were you engaged?

[Buck Sexton]

People do what they do. I, I don't need to calls people. My husband and I have been married 50 years and have 10 children and couldn't be happier. We were engaged for 15 years. Like I don't. There's always. People do things their own way. It works out great in general. Long engagement. Not the right move. Not the right move. It's. There's no reason for that.

[Clay Travis]

Well why anything.

[Buck Sexton]

You already said you want to get married. Get married.

[Clay Travis]

Anything more than a year. Something's up. Yeah, I, I just, I don't. The guy is just playing for time. He's waiting to see whether the options are going to get better. If you can't get engaged and married in a year and I look, there are exceptions like yes, maybe your husband is serving overseas and he's unable to come back. Like I'm talking About if you live in the country.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

And you aren't on an oil rig somewhere in the Arctic. Right. And you aren't under deep cover in the Middle east trying to bring down terrorist organizations. All right, I'm giving a couple of. Except if you live in the United States and you are engaged for over a year, it is. It is. Something's up. It's a good advice. I'm just trying to make people's life better. If he's not willing to do that, then. Then something is up. He's just playing for time.

[Buck Sexton]

Where are you on prenups? Because people have been pointing out to me there is another James Sexton out there. Have you seen this guy? He's all over the Internet. He's a divorce attorney who shares my legal name, obviously. You all know me as Buck. His name is James Sexton, and he's like the divorce attorney to the stars. And now he's become something of a. Almost a life coach, I think, online for people. And he's trying to tell everybody that every. Everybody, regardless of wealth, should have a prenup because otherwise the state, meaning, you know, whatever state you live in, has one that they've already made up for you. I. I dis. I disagree. I am not a prenup guy. I mean, I guess I'm admitting something very personal on the air here, but unless you're like a. Unless you're like a Rockefeller and you're on wife number two or three, I don't think prenups are the move.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, I had a negative net worth when I got married, so all I would have been doing is spreading out more of the money that. That. That basically I owed.

[Buck Sexton]

And I had a.

[Clay Travis]

We had a negative net worth for a long time early in our marriage, too. I do understand. Like, if I had been where I am now and I had never gotten married, I would be skeptical of the world out there in a way that I was not when I was 25 and I got married. So I think partly it's age. And I guess to your point, Buck, if your family is so insanely wealthy, like the Rockefellers back in the day, like maybe the Newsoms, which we'll talk about in the third hour, maybe you should sit around. The word is, by the way, that Gavin Newsom had a several hundred thousand dollars wedding, which will not surprise you, despite the fact that he claimed that he was raised with no assets, which will play for you in the third hour. I think you have to be really wealthy to even think about a. A Prenup to me now, everyone, I. Maybe it's easy to do a prenup if neither one of you have anything. Maybe it's not that much of. And so maybe that's what he's kind of getting at, is basically just presumption that the marital union might end. And so if you already have made decisions that are rational, but life circumstances change so much. I mean, if you don't have kids and you get divorced, to me, that's not. I understand it's like, not ideal to get divorced, but if you don't have kids, your divorce is more like a breakup than it is. There's not a child or the other James Sexton.

[Buck Sexton]

If you go on Instagram or on TikTok, he's.

[Clay Travis]

He's every.

[Buck Sexton]

There's like. I mean, he. Maybe he's the most famous Sexton out there now, who knows? But he says you break it down into yours, mine, communal marital property, and you just start from there. I. Look, I didn't do it, and I don't advocate for it, but I'm. I think it's interesting that now this is becoming. This is growing as a thing before people get married, even when they. This is specifically, he's saying for people, because you don't know. And so set it up now, because you can't set it up after the fact. I mean, there's a scene, I think, you know, Donald and Ivana, they had a prenup, and that was part of one of these movies or whatever. They were negotiating their prenup. And I do believe there was. There was a prenup there, but that's because he's a Trump and he's got a massive fortune. And then you get into the company, you know, the family business. You know, how do you split up some of these things? And some of the. It does get very complicated very quickly. So, yeah, I don't know. I just. Just put it out there. I just wanted to point out there's another James Sexton, which is.

[Clay Travis]

There's also a lot of. A lot of relationship advice that has been given in this segment, all of which I would point out is flawless in general.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, and our wives know that. Both of us, Clay and Buck, respectively, according to their wives, flawless when it comes to relationships.

[Clay Travis]

It's exactly right.

[Buck Sexton]

Have.

[Clay Travis]

Have all the perfect husbands, as I'm regularly referred to, frankly.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one we live for live streaming now. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We will address coming up here in a few minutes the Gavin Newsom just making it by the pulling up of his own Prada boots. You know, really just dealing with the hardships of. Sometimes the butler wasn't there to open my front door. Sometimes Clay, I had to wax my own surfboard. It was rough growing up as the son of a. An oil executive. And being so close to the Getty family, one of the richest families in the entire state of California, is really difficult for Gavin Newsom. So he's a. He's a really impressive guy.

[Clay Travis]

We got some callers and I can't wait to talk about Gavin Newsom. Mike in Mobile, Alabama. This is the perfect Mobile, Alabama call. Mike, what you got for us?

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, Buck was talking about James Sexton, the divorce guy. But there's Jimmy Sexton, who is probably the number one sports agent. I mean, he was for Nick Saban, Tommy Tuberville. I mean, you name the top head coaches and Jimmy Sexton's their agent. Is there any relation?

[Clay Travis]

Oh, that's a good question. You are not related to Jimmy Sexton that you know?

[Buck Sexton]

Not that I'm aware of. No, I have no idea. And I don't think I related to James Sexton the divorce attorney attorney either. He's got the divorce attorney. He's got a lot of tattoos on his forearms, which I've never seen on a famous divorce attorney before.

[Clay Travis]

Jimmy Sexton. It's funny. That's a perfect call for mobile. Cause if you're a college football fan, you know Jimmy awesome guy. I was actually with him Saturday at the big Vanderbilt win over Missouri. He represents.

[Buck Sexton]

Text him and be like, are you related to my co host? We got to figure this out. I just got a whole family tree done, man. I might have sports aging stuff in my blood. I don't even know.

[Clay Travis]

Memphis guy, awesome guy. Reps all the coaches. And we come back, Gavin Newsom. Poor kid.

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[Buck Sexton]

Fireworks in the fourth quarter.

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Then in week 11, Jaden Daniels and the Commanders touchdown once again. Face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off. Game on it's Sunday morning Football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network.

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[Buck Sexton]

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