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Connect with us@thrivent.com xxxy athletics is the only brand with the ovaries to stand up for the protection of women's sports. Our wives both love the brand. We both wear it too. More men need to stand up to protect women's sports and you can do it just by wearing XX XY Athletics. The quality and performance are world class and when you wear the clothes, you're standing up for the protection of women's Sports. Use code CLAY20 for 20% off at this website, the TruthFits.com that's the TruthFits.com and the promo code CLAY20 for 20 percent off. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Hope all of you had fabulous Easter weekends and had a lot of great time to spend with your families. And we are back here with you breaking down everything that has happened over the course of the weekend. First big news as we started the show with this. The Pope has passed at the age of 88. They already have sent notice that they will be having a conclave to select a new Pope. And that is certainly a major international story as a new pope is, is sought. And we will see exactly how that comes down in the early parts of the show. The White House has been hosting the annual Easter Egg Roll and President Trump and Melania have been meeting with so many young kids that are involved in that great festive occasion. And I had, I think producer Greg has, has got some of this lined up. That is the difference between the, the, the, the last Easter, when Joe Biden, basically, I guess that was a couple of years ago when the Easter Bunny had to come save President Biden, who was answering questions and it was clear he didn't know what he was talking about. This is a flashback. This was in April of 2022. This is one of the moments, I think, when it became increasingly difficult for anyone to argue that Joe Biden was still in control of his full faculties. This is the Easter Bunny coming to grab. Do you remember a throwback here, 2022, the Easter Bunny has to rescue Biden from the press. Okay, it's a little bit hard to hear, but that is the Easter Bunny. You probably saw that video that went viral back then of the Easter Bunny having to rescue Biden from making no sense while talking to the press. Here is Trump referencing that. Remember when the bunny took Joe Biden out? He says he's not taking Trump out. Cut 25. You remember the bunny with Joe Biden, Remember?
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Caller
Do you remember when the, when the.
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Clay Travis
Bunny took Joe Biden out?
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Caller
He's not going to take, he's not taking Trump out.
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Clay Travis
Anyway.
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Caller
That was a good, that was a beautiful moment when the bunny saved Joe Biden.
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Clay Travis
The bunny saved Joe Biden. Lots of reaction pouring in from the first hour. We got a VIP email from Bill, said he loved the opening of the show. And he said, I think Buck should be Pope. Um, well, that would be certainly a major plot twist. I don't think the Pope can be married as a general rule. Pope at least is not supposed to have children. Although we were, we were talking about off air when I went. I never really paid that much attention to the history of all of the Popes, man. You want to talk about crazy stories, go back and read some of the histories of the Popes. I mean, some of those guys had like Elon Musk ish numbers of children, certainly in contravention of some of them were married. There were a lot of sorted, crazy, wild stories back in the day about the Popes, much more so than the modern era. I'm sure you've seen some of those. But I would encourage anybody out there, if you get the opportunity on the bucket list, even if you're not Catholic, the opportunity to visit Vatican City is one of the most, I would say edifying and truly enjoyable moments and locations anywhere in the world to be able to experience.
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Caller
Some of those popes that had more colorful backgrounds definitely paid for some really nice artwork too. So there's that. Yeah. If you like the Sistine Chapel, I mean, some of the stuff that they got done, you know, they were, they were, they were getting it done in other ways. They weren't, they weren't living in the model of Christ, but they were paying for some fancy sculptures.
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Clay Travis
The, it's funny that you mentioned the, the, all of the different churches and cathedrals and everything else. My youngest, Buck, when we went to, when we went to Italy, I guess he was maybe seven, we went in so many different old churches and everything else, cathedrals and, and near the end of the trip he just said, I can't. You can imagine a seven year old having to go into so many different old churches. And his brothers were a little bit better, they were a little bit older. And they've got a history nerd dad who just like, I love all of it, right? I'm just kind of overwhelmed by the, the majesty of so many of these old cathedrals and churches all over in Rome and Italy in general. And I just remember he just kind of threw a little bit of a seven year old fit. Like I can't see any more churches, any more cathedrals, you know, and he was, I just, I'll remember that for the rest of my life that he just, my youngest was just like, I can't do this anymore, dad. That is not necessarily the ideal place to take a seven year old. But I do think as he gets older he's going to really enjoy it a lot. We've been talking also about the latest Supreme Court battle as Trump is trying to expansively create a new foundation that would allow him to deport from inside of the country. And this is so important. We're not talking about a deportation being somebody not being allowed into the country. We're talking about someone being taken out of the country. And the pace would suggest that only about 300,000 a year are even possible, which means it would take somewhere around 30 years merely to take all of the people that Joe Biden let in back out of the country. And a lot of people want to weigh in on this. And so let's take some of the calls out there. 800-282-2882. Scott in Wisconsin, what you got for us?
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Caller
Just got a couple questions here. The president has pretty broad pardoning powers to the point where Biden was able to pardon people that weren't even charged with anything yet. Why can't Trump or the Trump administration keep doing what they're doing and if there's any issues, pardon either himself or anybody else that's charged with anything regarding these mass deportations?
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Clay Travis
Oh, man. So this is a really interesting question. This is like a law exam question. He's right that the scope of the pardons that Biden put in place were for any crime that had been committed basically over the last decade. And if the president has the absolute power, he could theoretically, and this turns into actually a constitutional crisis, which is the reason why I would not advise it, he could theoretically defy the ruling of the Supreme Court. And if someone tried to prosecute him or anyone else for defying the ruling of the Supreme Court, he could give them absolute and complete pardons. And therefore there would be no consequences for then defying the ruling of the Supreme Court.
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Caller
That would be a means of trying to hack the system from, from within. But I will say what the whole immigration system has shown us up to this point is that they found that asylum was essentially a hack for open borders.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Caller
And it was used in bad faith. And Democrats allowed this and they knew it and they didn't care. So desperate times call for desperate measures. There may be. I'm not, I don't think Trump's going to go the route that our caller raises. But I do think that you're getting closer to a point at which the president may just say, you don't have the right to review this. This is presidential prerogative. And how many divisions do you have? Supreme Court, I think that that may happen at some point here.
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Clay Travis
I also think the big issue, and we're trying to hammer this because I do think it's important for you all to conceptually get is Joe Biden effectively said, I am going to allow 10 million plus illegals into the country. And he did that, as Buck said, by manipulating the law to basically make all 10 million of those people say, oh, I live in fear of going back to my country. I would point this out, Buck. In Europe, the people who have used the fear of going back to their country as soon as they get citizenship, they immediately take trips back to their country.
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Caller
Right. And then they try to sponsor the rest of their family in too. This is a whole part of the asylum process that people don't discuss enough, is that if you are able to game the system and stay here and get legal status, then you become the anchor for, well, now I have to bring my whole family here. I had a fear of whatever in my country, and now my whole, you know, 10 of my relatives have to come as well. And this is what ends up happening.
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Clay Travis
But if you truly had that fear, you would never go back. There are some people who are in danger of authorities. Those people would never go back to their country. Right, because you would actually fear for your life. Well, these guys overwhelmingly say I fear. And then as soon as they get citizenship, they start going multiple times a year back to the country they supposedly were fearful to do.
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Caller
This is where you get to faithless execution of the law. I mean, you need to have people who are faithfully executing the law as we understand it as Americans, or else the whole system collapses on itself and we don't have rule of law. That is what they did on immigration. They knew we were being scammed. They knew that people were lying. They knew this was the system, and they just acted like, sorry, nothing we can do. No, there are plenty of things they could have done. They could have turned them away at the border and said, you're not passing the credible fear test. Because reading off of a sheet of paper that says, I have a fear from my home country of the following doesn't make me think that you actually have any fear whatsoever. There were a lot of things that they could have done and a lot of means that they could have used, but they chose not to do it. I mean, which meant that they chose to leave the border wide open and let all these people come into the country. And I think that we're still dealing now with the, the. Both the outrage and the realization of how extensive that process was, you know, it is the. It is, in fact, the case that if you had a bunch of, you know, clay, you could have law enforcement in an area just say, look, we don't have the resources. Sorry, home invasions are illegal where we are. Or, you know, burglaries and home invasions are illegal. We just don't have the resources to devote to it right now. So we're not going to be responding to those calls there. I mean, legally, technically, they could do that. And now you'd say, well, of course, but the sheriff would be fired and, oh, ok, yeah, but they could theoretically just pretend like they're that incompetent and that insane. And there's not really a lot that in a certain community you'd be left with. This is what I mean by faithless execution. If the people that are in charge of actually enforcing the law say, we're not going to do it, well, you got a big problem on your hands. It's exactly what Biden did with illegal immigration.
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Clay Travis
They had this issue, I believe, in Detroit. I think it's better now, but there was something like an hour and a half average time between when you would call police saying, hey, we need police, and when they would actually show up. Think about that for a minute. In your neighborhoods, in the event that you ever needed police to have that long, is pretty disastrous. Greg, in Huntington, West Virginia, you're asking a question because we're trying to find, hey, what is a solution here? Trump is pushing the presidential powers, I guess he just dropped, but he was going to ask whether or not there was an ability for the House and the Senate, since they're controlled by the Republican Party, to pass a law that would allow this to occur. I think it's a great question. What I said earlier, and I think it's unfortunate, is I think that the Democrats are so committed to illegal immigration occurring that they would filibuster in the Senate to stop any bill that would codify the president's right to deport illegals at a more rapid fashion. I think that's how they're committed to it. And this is what we said would happen. Trump can have the goal, but Democrats are looking at it and saying, hey, we're going to take back the House soon. All we have to do is slow his progress here and eventually we're going to have another Democrat president and we're just going to wide open the southern border again.
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Caller
And time, if they can delay this, is on their side. Insofar as the longer these people stay in the country, the more they will have connections to this country, the harder it will be. It's harder to report somebody in five years than it is in year one. It's a lot harder to report somebody in year 15 or 20 politically, legally and otherwise. And they think that eventually the weight, I think, of the illegals in this country will be so overwhelming, there'll be so many tens of millions that there'll just be a move, a move toward an amnesty. And I know that that sounds crazy right now. Reagan signed an amnesty. It was a terrible idea. He was wrong. And now California is a left wing hellhole. So, you know, that's what ends up. I know it's beautiful and nice, but you know what I mean. Politically, California has been turned crazy and the amnesty was a huge part of it. Huge part of it.
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Clay Travis
This all ties in with birthright citizenship too. I'm sorry, but no mom who has an American citizen child by and large is going to get deported. That's the reality. This is why birthright citizenship in conjunction with an open border creates what you're saying, Buck, and I think is so important long running issues because if you're in this country illegally for five years or 10 years, you start to live your normal life here. And if you have children, then your children are American citizens and basically they are your gold card because it comes very difficult to deport a mom that has American children.
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Caller
We can't agree with the Democrats on core issues either of Americanism or what makes you an American. I don't think right now, if they tried to pass a English as the national language of the United States, Democrats wouldn't go for it.
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Clay Travis
That's right.
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Caller
If you ask a Democrat what is an American? Really interesting question. I think they have, they have effectively no answer for you whatsoever these days. Whoever arrives and says they'll vote Democrat or whoever arrives and they think will vote Democrat, that's who an American is.
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Caller
Your TV is welcome back into Clay and Buck. We talked about this a lot last week. I just want to note silence really over the weekend from the Sunday shows and, and everywhere else in the media about possibility that AG Letitia James of New York State could be criminally prosecuted here. Dan Abrams, who's a media guy, lawyer, legal analyst, he pointed out that they really don't seem to care about this.
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Clay Travis
Plain nine When I first heard that the attorney general had been referred there was a criminal referral made by the director of Federal Housing and Finance Agency. My initial response was, oh boy, here we go. Trump is just weaponizing the departments and in this case making a reference to the doj. And I'm sure this is all nonsense. And then I actually read what they were alleging. This is real. This is serious. And I think this could mean big trouble for the attorney general.
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Caller
I don't know. Yeah, look, no one seems to care in the media. He's right.
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Clay Travis
He's right. They put out the APB of we're not gonna talk about this. This is not a complicated case. I would expect in the next month that you are going to see charges brought on this case. And I think when the actual charging documents are released, the indictments, I think many people are gonna be forced to cover it and they're gonna be cut a month, several weeks behind what we've already told you, which is these are super credible and she's in real trouble. Rapid Radios walkie talkies must have for any family that wants to stay in touch. More ways than one. Easy. Pick up your cell phone to call or text. That's never going to go away. What Rapid Radios provides, though, is a quick way to stay in touch. Not just in the easy times, but when there's a power outage caused by severe weather, for instance. Rapid Radios come in handy when you got kids too young for a cell phone or aging parents don't want to deal with them. Rapid Radio walkie talkies made to connect with anyone via the nationwide LTE network. Cell phone towers aren't any monthly fees, no contracts to sign, just a small annual fee that keeps your device current. Here's how you get hooked up. Go online to rapidradios.com you'll get up to 60% off. Free UPS shipping from Michigan plus a free protection bag. Add code radio and get an extra 5% off. That's Rapidradios.com code radio. Get hooked up today. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I do think it's worth mentioning on all this Abreu Garcia craziness. Taxpayers are funding all of these trips to El Salvador. You and me and everybody out there who actually pays taxes, which is only about half the American population. Don't even be started on that. Do you know, Buck, that 40% of all U.S. income taxes are paid by the top 1% of earners?
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Caller
I do know this.
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Clay Travis
No one ever pushes back on this and says, okay, what should, what should the fair share of the 1% be? Only half of us even pay federal income taxes. But 40% of all federal income taxes are actually paid by the top 1%. What should they pay? I never hear an argument. Everybody's like, oh, pay your fair share, all this stuff. It's very rarely discussed how disproportional the amount of taxes paid actually are. In other words, if you are paying a single dollar in US Federal income taxes, you are part of only half of Americans. It's actually a little bit less than half of Americans, I think, most recently, that are actually funding all of this. But the fact that he got paid by taxpayer dollars. Now there are four more Congress people in the air right now on their way to El Salvador. I believe they have just landed. Also paid for by taxpayer dollars. I can't imagine that there is any way that this is resonating with average Americans out there, that they feel like five different elected representatives from the Senate and the House should be going to El Salvador to check on a wife beating human trafficker.
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Caller
I think it's a clear political loser for them. And it's one of these moments where you have to remember Trump's instincts for politics are truly exceptional. I think he recognizes that, that part of it. But I'm actually wondering right now, let's say, I just want to play this out a little bit, Clay. Let's say that we were to have a Trump administration that finally came together and said, you know what, Fine, fine, fine. Senator so and so, and Congresswoman so and so. You know what, we'll give this guy more due process. So they're going to then ask the President of El Salvador to take an El Salvadoran national. Right. No one disagrees that he's. It's not like this guy's claim is that he's actually an American. If he were actually an American, I would have a problem with this. Ok, he's not an American citizen. He's someone else's problem. But no one even claims that. He doesn't claim it nobody does. They just say he's an illegal who should have gotten more due process. By what mechanism do they take this foreign national, bring him into the United States to give him a tribunal or a, you know, in front of a judge. I don't even know what this would be so that they can say, ok, now you're here, you're not an American, you're an illegal and you have a deportation order. Now you go back to El Salvador. I really mean this, like, what is the game plan here from the people that are so upset at Trump? We're going to take a foreign national, bring him, fly him back to America for the specific in custody, I suppose.
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Clay Travis
Correct. He's never going to be free at any process during the course of this procedure.
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Caller
So bring him back to US soil to hold him in custody, to then have him go before, I guess a third judge, because he's already gone in front of two who've said he's an Ms. 13 member going for the third judge. And, and then what? Oh, they hope that that judge decides that this guy should be able to stay. Like, think about what that would actually look like for the Democrats though, right? Imagine that just to spite Trump, they tell or, you know, they get some left wing immigration judge, some Trump hating judge to say, no, this guy gets to stay. That would then prove to us the Democrats are completely insane and don't want to deport anyone, including Ms. 13 gang members who aren't Americans.
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Clay Travis
Yes, yes. I think it's all true. And that's why I think the understanding this battle is so important. The reason why the Trump team is fighting this battle is if they're going to be able to deport millions of people, which is their goal in this four years, they cannot do it under existing policy and implementation of immigration law because it just takes too long. And that is the gamble that the diabolical Democrats who allowed the 10 million illegals into the country took. They basically think. And you laid it out. I think it's true. The longer an illegal gets to stay in the country, the harder it becomes to take them back again. You could have kids if you're, if you're a woman and you enter this country illegally and you have a kid on American soil, I'm telling you, it is going to be virtually impossible to get you deported. That's what I thought they would wait for, Buck. I thought they would wait for a mom who is actually a very compelling front facing figure. And that person gets deported and they say, oh my goodness, she has American Citizen children. I thought that's what they would wait for. I think they have chosen poorly in the front facing member that they have decided to put here. But I also think it's important that.
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Caller
Can I wait, wait, can I just one, one reason about that because I thought too they'd wait for like the abuela who you know was like cleaning, cleaning a hotel or houses for 30 years and she got caught up and somehow and was being removed. The issue with that though is because of the prioritization that Tom Holman and DHS are engaged in. They're not going to get to those people maybe ever, but they're not going to get to them for quite a long time. People who have been here a long time, who aren't a public safety threat, etc. So they had to just lean into this of like, what do you mean you don't want the Trenda Aragua hitman to still be here? Like, how dare you, sir? He has rights. They've decided that they have to speed it up with the attacks on Trump.
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Clay Travis
Here is Glen Ivey on msnbc. What they're trying to say is, first of all, I think a lot of people, because they're poorly informed, don't even understand that this guy's an illegal immigrant. Did you see Bill Maher, who should be really super well informed, did not seem aware that this guy was an illegal immigrant. That's why they're calling him a Maryland man and they're trying to make people fearful. Oh, if they can do this to him, they'll do it to you too. That's the message.
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Caller
This is the, this is the foundation of the whole thing. He's not an American, he's not supposed to be here. And all this stuff that has gone on up to this point are just failures and scams within our immigration system to prevent him from being deported in an expeditious fashion. That's the whole. Everything else is noise, right? He does not have the legal, lawful right to be in America. All the delays and all the other stuff, this is just process nonsense.
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Clay Travis
And here is Simone Sanders and Glenn Ivey saying on msnbc, this is where they really want to take the argument. If they can take this guy, you're next. Slippery slope. Very alive and well. Cut 20.
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Caller
If they could do it to them, if they could snatch students off the street without any pushback or recourse, they will do it to any of us. To be very clear, it's going to be the people of color and vulnerable communities that are next in line.
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Clay Travis
I think that's right. Now, that's certainly part of why the African American community is so strongly behind the supporting Kilmar.
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Caller
We're like, we are not for this.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, because as you just said, if they're going to whisk them away, what are they going to do with us? This is so ludicrous. There is no black person in America who is a citizen of the United States that is going to be whisked away and put into an El Salvadorian prison. And anybody arguing, by the way, black, Asian, Hispanic, white, if you are an American citizen, this cannot happen to you. This is. There is a 0% chance it would be a flagrant constitutional violation. This is for illegal immigrants. And right now, Buck, it's for illegal immigrants that the Trump team believes are actually engaged in violent, predatory gangland behavior the likes of which has been taking American lives. The idea that that would be the argument is just so fundamentally dishonest, even for them.
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Caller
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Clay Travis
The other thing they're saying is that America is responsible for him being in prison. El Salvador believes this guy is dangerous, which is why he's in prison in their home country. And you know who has made El Salvador one of the safest countries in the entire Western hemisphere? Bukele. Do you know how he's done it? Radical idea, Buck. Put bad guys behind bars and keep them there. That's why he's wildly popular because you can argue, and I think it's probably true, Number one thing that a government really should do help make its citizens safer. It's probably the number one most important goal, make your citizens safe. Then we want to educate. Then we also ideally would like to be able to put out fires. Sorry, Los Angeles, you've managed to elect people who aren't capable of doing that, but making people safe is the utmost responsibility. And that's what Bukele's done a good job of. And that's what Trump is trying to do with all the illegals that are here.
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It's from npr. So, you know, regime sponsored media that wouldn't be able to survive on its own, and then they say, yes, we would. It's such a small part of our budget. All right, well, then why do you need it?
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Clay Travis
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Yeah, you can't have it both ways. Npr, oh, we're so profitable. We don't need that money. Good. It should stay with the taxpayers. They're saying that there's. It's already in the works to replace Hexath. I don't buy it. I said, Caroline Levitt's already said fake news. We'll dive into this a little bit more. But this is all part of what we were just talking about, even with Abrego Garcia, Clay, which is they just have to do opposition. So it doesn't, you know, they, Pete is the guy they want to take out. Abrego Garcia is there. Trump is a fascist. You know, we're heading to authoritarianism. Symbol the stock market is their way of trying to panic, you know, whatever it is that they can latch onto and push hard. That's what they're going to do at this point. So I just think, you know, we're not going to fall for it. I don't, I can't see the future. And I haven't talked to the president about this, so he's the only one that really matters, but I don't see that at all. I think Pete's his guy. The stuff that they're talking about, none of that rises to the level. First of all, is it true? And second of all, I don't think any of it rises to the level where you would expect that Trump would, would fire him. We'll talk a bit more about that. One thing I did want to say, Clay, is, you know, did we discuss a little bit of, like, the multigenerational household on the, on the, do we talk about this in the show or did. I mean, for us to talk about this, about how grand, how good it is for grandparents to be involved.
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Clay Travis
We didn't talk about it on the air. I saw you tweet about it.
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Caller
I think, okay, that sometimes I forget if we talked about or if I tweeted about it. I think that this is something that we should see more and more of, you know, you have already. There's a trend of grandparents getting involved with, with kids like with their grandchildren trying to just help, help, you know, pitch in in whatever ways they can. Well, you know, babysitting, yes. But being involved in their lives like picking them up from soccer practice, doing, you know, I've had my mother in law here for the last week and let me tell you, she's planning to leave in a few days and I'm like, are you sure you want to go? You know all these mother in law jokes nonsense. And especially, I mean my, my, especially.
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Clay Travis
Now when you have a brand new baby and grandma is great at helping with the brand new.
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Caller
My in laws are fantastic people and I feel very blessed and it's a. They have a great family. So yes, that of course is part one of this. But part two is man, having, having, having the grandma here to help out, you know, having her and you know, my mom is going to be coming down soon too. It's a beautiful thing. And the knowledge and the experience they have in the child raising and child rearing part of it. You know, my mom raised four kids, Carrie's mom raised four kids. And it's just, it's like bringing Obi Wan Kenobi down to help you with the lightsaber. Like this is awesome. So I just think, because I was reading an article and that's what I was referring to with Clay, you know, for I know a lot of you listening or grandparents, man, I just think America, we're, you know, we're talking about encouraging more babies. Yes, that's good policy wise but also grandparents are a form of parent within the family of the new kids. Like they should be engaged to the greatest possible. I know some people live far away and I know there's logistics, challenges for some, some families but to whatever degree, you know, FaceTime, I mean there's so many things you can do now to really be involved. And I just, I see it. My mom is really helping with my nephew in New York a lot. I just think this make a lot of other countries. This is how it is. Yeah, the grandparents don't just go to play golf for the retirement home or something. They're. They're involved in the family.
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Clay Travis
I feel very fortunate that my parents live about a half mile from us and that my kids have been able to be around them a great deal over the last decade. And I feel great about my wife's side of the family, how fortunate we were there also. I do wonder about this a little bit and I Think this is one of the challenges of having kids later in age. A lot of times now let's say your average. I was reading Buck, you know the average man doesn't get married until he's in his 30s now, which is pretty transformative difference. And even the average woman I think is 29 now. So if you're married and you have kids the earliest someone can now you know, on average be having kids for a woman for instance or early 30s. If your parents had kids in their 30s and you wait to have kids until you're in your 30s, you're talking about grandparents, first time grandparents sometimes being in their 70s and that becomes more challenging because one of the difficulties of having kids later in life is your grandkids are, are going to, you're going to be a lot older when they're born compared to historical averages.
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Caller
Well this is why I'm on the regimen because you know I'll probably be an older grandparent and I'll just say people now and you listening to this know this. What people can do and their physicality commonly now into their, into their 70s and 80s is much more like what our parents generation was doing in their 50s and 60s.
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Clay Travis
That's right.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, there's a lot better health and I do think it's wildly important and it's one of the things like the multi generational household aspect. It's one thing that I think the rest of the world gets right because it allows your entire family to be raising kids as opposed to just mom and dad or even just a single parent. We'll break down some of this, give you the latest on the Hegset drama and more third hour coming up next. Thanks for hanging with us.
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