Hour 2 - The Welfare Fraud Scandal Keeps Growing

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 - The Welfare Fraud Scandal Keeps Growing
Date: December 30, 2025
Hosts: Tudor Dixon & Kyle Olson (guest hosting)
Guest: Steve Robinson (Editor in Chief, Maine Wire)

Episode Overview

This hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delves into a widening welfare fraud scandal, focusing especially on Minnesota, with connections to other states such as Ohio and Maine. Guest hosts Tudor Dixon and Kyle Olson unpack the political, social, and financial ramifications, and interview investigative reporter Steve Robinson to discuss how fraudulent welfare disbursements are funneled through Somali-run organizations, some allegedly linked to terror groups, and the complications of accountability within Democratic and Republican circles. The episode also covers Nancy Pelosi’s retirement from Congress and the implications for the Democratic Party, before opening the phone lines for passionate caller commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nancy Pelosi’s Retirement and Party Dynamics

• Discussion on Pelosi’s Legacy:

  • Pelosi stepping down after 39 years in Congress at age 86.
  • Hosts reflect on her “passing the torch” but criticize her for clinging to power and failing to foster younger leadership.
  • Kyle Olson: “You look at their leadership and it’s all of these old people like Nancy Pelosi.” (04:00)
  • Tudor Dixon suggests Pelosi’s most memorable action is tearing up Trump’s State of the Union speech, revealing the party’s deep divisions.

• Pelosi’s Infamous State of the Union Moment:

  • Audio clip replay of Pelosi’s pushback against conservative questioning over Jan. 6 and National Guard.
  • Tudor Dixon: “She is such a spaz.” (05:41)
  • Olson highlights her approach to press—aggressive when questioned by conservatives.
  • Dixon notes that the media’s focus on antics like tearing up the speech overshadowed substantive issues.

• Democratic Party’s Future:

  • Pelosi’s anointed successor Hakeem Jeffries seen as uncharismatic; “nobody really likes” him (06:51).
  • Olson points out rising progressive figures (e.g., Scott Weiner, Sakat Chakrabarti, AOC) reflect a party moving even further left.

2. Homelessness and Welfare in California:

• Dixon criticizes California for maintaining a “homelessness industry,” arguing that billions are spent annually on ‘managing’ rather than solving the problem.
  • “If it’s not a problem, then where do you get... I think it’s probably... a $1 billion industry in just San Francisco.” (13:28)
  • Olson describes his experience in San Francisco filming “Dummy Crats,” easily encountering street filth and city workers managing, not solving, the issue.

3. Minnesota’s Expanding Welfare Fraud Scandal

• Introduction:

  • Dixon introduces independent reporter Nick Shirley’s work exposing billions in alleged welfare fraud run through Somali organizations in Minnesota.
  • Audio montage reveals the lack of children at taxpayer-funded daycares and the staggering scale of fraud.
  • “Potentially the largest fraud scandal in US history is taking place in Minnesota..." (20:48, Nick Shirley/clip)

• Connection to Terrorism:

  • Some welfare money allegedly traced to terrorist groups in Somalia.
  • Dixon: “Imagine finding out that your taxpayer dollars are going... into the hands of immigrants. We don’t even know if they’re legal or if they’re illegal...” (21:20)

• Hostility to Investigative Journalism:

  • Kyle Olson: “A young man with a camera...polite questions... met with hostility, doors slammed in his face.” (21:53)
  • Dixon: “He is really attacked for even asking these questions.” (22:31)

4. Welfare Fraud’s Reach: Ohio, Maine, and Beyond

• Ohio News Break:

  • Olson details breaking Ohio story: a Somali-American community leader, with links to Republican Gov. Mike DeWine, appointed to a state commission, but facing a personal tax lien and connected to nonprofits “funded by… taxpayer dollars.” (24:01-24:53)
  • Dixon warns, “Republicans need to open their eyes.”

• Maine Investigation—Interview with Steve Robinson: (25:15–35:53)

  • Fraud as a Political-Community Compact:

    • Robinson argues the fraud is not just Somali, but a “Somali Democrat problem,” with both political leaders and community gatekeepers benefiting.
    • “The Somali community leaders… accumulate wealth… Democratic politicians can reliably count on thousands of votes… they feed into one another.” (26:00)

  • Welfare, Voting & COVID Funds:

    • Robinson reveals COVID relief and other public funds funneled to organizations in migrant communities, fueling Democratic get-out-the-vote strategies:
      • “They were allowed to keep track… of voting age adults… AKA get out the vote operations.” (31:00)
      • Registering for public benefits automatically initiates voter registration, legally mandated.
    • The Mills administration (and others) grants no-bid contracts to organizations serving migrants, some later found implicated in fraud.

  • Election Integrity Concerns:

    • Migrant organizations located in subsidized housing, facilitating easy ballot harvesting.
    • Robinson on Maine Secretary of State Shanna Bellows: “She admitted noncitizens are registered to vote in Maine…and she chuckled about it…” (29:00)
    • Data and contracts linked to suspect organizations are being scrubbed now that investigations are public.

  • Fraud’s Broader Pattern:

    • Dixon and Robinson agree similar schemes are in Minnesota and Michigan, reflected in unexplainable surges in Democratic votes.

5. Caller Perspectives on Assimilation, Accountability, and Medicaid:

• Assimilation & Accountability (Bob from Georgia, 40:30):

  • “People come into this country not assimilating… the Somalis are the latest... They don’t want to be American, they want what we have in America.”
  • Expresses frustration with lack of prosecutions: “I just don’t see people going to jail… there’s no accountability.” (41:10)

• Medicaid Expansion and Red State Complicity (Jay from Ohio, 42:17):

  • Blames bipartisan expansion of Medicaid for exposing the system to fraud; explains Ohio’s high federal reimbursements and fraud, “Ohio had a 43.3% fraud rate on a $40 billion annual spend.”
  • Urges national leaders: “You control the valve. Shut off the Medicaid expansion. Why do we still have Barack Obama’s Medicaid expansion from 2013?” (43:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Pelosi’s State of the Union moment:

  • “What she is most well known for is standing behind the President of the United States… and deciding to tear up his speech. She was snubbing all of the people that we were celebrating as a country in the room that day.”
    — Tudor Dixon (11:05)

• On Fraud’s Alleged Terrorist Links:

  • “Some of this money eventually landed in the hands of terrorist groups in Somalia like Al Shabaab.” — Clip/Nick Shirley (21:08)

• On Political-Migrant Coalition:

  • “It’s not specifically a Somali problem, it’s a Somali Democrat problem... The Somali community leaders... accumulate wealth... and the Democratic politicians can reliably count on thousands of votes.”
    — Steve Robinson (26:00)

• On Get Out the Vote via Welfare:

  • “So any taxpayer funded initiative to sign someone up for snap, an EBT card, Medicaid is also a get out the vote drive.” — Steve Robinson (32:00)

• On Response to Journalistic Inquiry:

  • “He’s met with hostility, with doors being slammed in his face.”
    — Kyle Olson (21:53)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Content | Timestamp | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Pelosi retirement, Democratic divisions | 03:40–12:39 | | California’s homelessness/welfare spending | 12:59–15:36 | | The Minnesota Somali daycare fraud scandal | 19:41–23:36 | | Breaking Ohio story—GOP connection to Somali nonprofit | 24:01–24:53 | | Steve Robinson on Maine’s Somali welfare/voter fraud | 25:15–35:53 | | Caller segment: assimilation, Medicaid, accountability | 40:30–43:42 |

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Tone & Style

• Conversational & Direct: Hosts use humor, sarcasm, and strong opinions to engage listeners.
• Investigative, Skeptical: Frequent questioning of motives of politicians and bureaucrats, regardless of party.
• Outrage & Concern: Underlying the hour is a sense of disbelief and anger at widespread, unaddressed fraud and lack of accountability.
• Populist: Sympathy for ordinary taxpayers and frustration with elite or establishment inaction.

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This summary distills the substance and tone of the episode, offering a clear guide for anyone looking to understand the core issues, arguments, and emotions aired in “The Welfare Fraud Scandal Keeps Growing.”

Transcript

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[Tudor Dixon]

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[Kyle Olson]

30 years ago, yeah, a long time ago.

[Tudor Dixon]

My gosh, we're so old. Not as old as Nancy.

[Kyle Olson]

You are.

[Tudor Dixon]

Nancy's a lot older. She's 85. She, she's gonna be 86. Remember she broke her hip last year. It's like a year ago she broke her hip. I thought she'd be done then I thought she would maybe resign, but she's pretty hardcore.

[Kyle Olson]

Well, and you would think that she would have said it's time to pass the torch to someone else. Because the Democrats love to talk about the young people and the younger generation, but you look at their leadership and it's all of these old people like Nancy Pelosi.

[Tudor Dixon]

She should have. Yeah, right. She should have passed the torch quite a long time ago. I mean, there was a point when Nancy Pelosi was a glass ceiling breaker, when she was like a powerful young woman. She was kind of like a young woman woman that I think other women looked up to. But then you hit a point where you become reckless and she's now back in the news because I think one of her most reckless moments, which was tearing up the speech at the State of the Union, is now she's talking about that. But, but before that, I want you picked out a clip of Nancy, which I love because I don't know how many people heard this. I can't, I can't even remember what reporter was a conservative reporter that asked her question. And you have to listen to what she says in this because she goes after them and says, you're not even a real reporter because you're asking me a question from the right. So like saying that means that anybody on our side of the aisle is not allowed to ever Ask a question of an elected official. So listen to this little meltdown that old Nance has. Why did you refuse the national guard on January 6th?

[Steve Robinson]

Shut up.

[Tudor Dixon]

I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist? The American people want to know. We still have questions. Thank you. She is such a spaz.

[Kyle Olson]

But see, she's in charge of the building as the speaker, because she was speaker of the House at the time. She's in charge of the building. She has to request the National Guard. She didn't do that. And so when people are asking her, why didn't you do that? Her response is to.

[Tudor Dixon]

Is just unhinged, but an unhinged response. Often there's a reason behind that. She wouldn't have that response if she didn't have control over that situation. I think that indicates that she absolutely was in the position of having control over that situation. And yet she let it go. She let this continue because she wanted it to happen.

[Kyle Olson]

Sure. And, and, and she has been this way for years. When I had a previous website prior to the Midwesterner, and I would do these mashup videos of where she was saying strange things and acting strange and. And having all of these, you know, problems speaking. And she's been like this for years. And what she would do in these press conferences is if she had. If there was someone from Fox or Newsmax or, you know, Daily Caller or wherever, and she didn't like the question, she would just lash out like this. She's been like this for a long time.

[Tudor Dixon]

So she's. She's finally stepping down, which is ironic because she is the one who has talked about young leadership, but she held on to that gavel for a very long time. And it's interesting. I saw her interview just a few days ago, and she was like. They asked her, is Hakeem Jeffries going to be the next speaker? She's claiming that they're going to win the House and he will be the next speaker, but he's not well loved. That's not who they see the Democrat base. That is not who they see as the next generation. She thought she could silence the squad. Remember her arguing with the squad and thinking she could silence aoc. And because I believe she didn't step aside in time, she never allowed anybody else to step into that powerful position. And she kind of hand chose a person that nobody really likes. Nobody likes Hakeem Jeffries. He's not the Future. So she has no future for her party.

[Kyle Olson]

Well, and what's fascinating, too, is for years she has been sort. She has been seen as sort of the fringe of the left, the fringe of the, you know, very progressive left of the Democratic Party. But you look at the other people that are in the party now, and she actually seems somewhat normal. So you said, you know, she's retiring. She's not running for reelection. So there's two people that are running to replace her in San Francisco. One is State Senator Scott Weiner, which, if people are on social media, they've probably seen his videos where he's completely obsessed with the, you know, the Pride Parade in San Francisco.

[Tudor Dixon]

Unfortunate name.

[Kyle Olson]

And he was. He was the one. Do you remember a couple weeks ago where the black woman was at his town hall meeting and wanted him to basically denounce men going into women's bathrooms and he would not do it?

[Tudor Dixon]

This is the woman who was in the locker room, and she had a man in there. And she is a lesbian. She's a progressive. She was like, look, this is not a space for a man to come in. This is not a part of my community. The LG BE community. She doesn't include the tea.

[Steve Robinson]

Right.

[Tudor Dixon]

And she was saying, I want to be protected from having a man in my locker room. And they just kind of laughed that off. They didn't ever answer. They just kind of left that off. That's the next step of the party. But you talk about how she is the progressive, even in her act of complete defiance. I want to play this clip of her talking about ripping up the speech, because the end of it, to me is interesting. Here it is.

[Steve Robinson]

I intend to go to speech to tear it up.

[Tudor Dixon]

But I just. The first part of it, I tore.

[Steve Robinson]

A page because he was lying. And then the next page, and then the next page. I thought it was a manifesto of lies all throughout. So I better just tear up the whole speech. Now.

[Tudor Dixon]

The speeches are on strong paper there.

[Steve Robinson]

So you have to do it few times to get it done.

[Tudor Dixon]

But I had no intention of doing. I thought my staff is going to die at 86. You can't tear at all at once. You have to. It's strong paper. But notice she says that her staff. She thought her staff was going to die. Because that is not behavior that you expect from a powerful woman in on the House floor.

[Kyle Olson]

No. And. And what did the media do? That's what they seized on. That gave the media the opportunity to completely ignore what the president said. And they could. They could behave you know, or they could, you know, respond that way to. To what she did as opposed to what the President said.

[Tudor Dixon]

So maybe she is. I mean, maybe she did get her way in that situation. I think it's kind of sad to think here's a woman who got into politics so young, she became the speaker. How many times did she hold the gavel? Three.

[Kyle Olson]

A couple. Yeah.

[Tudor Dixon]

So she. Here she is, someone who becomes speaker of the House. And what she is most well known for now, and I hope she appreciates this, I think this. I appreciate the fact that the tantrum is what she is known for.

[Kyle Olson]

Yeah.

[Tudor Dixon]

Because what she is most well known for is standing behind the President of the United States, who, when he does a State of the Union address, he is very particular about how it goes, making sure he's highlighting really great people from the community of the United States of America. And to me, it wasn't that she was snubbing the president. She was snubbing all of the people that we were celebrating as a country in the room that day. But she says now she gets the most requests to sign that image. How would you feel after 30 years of service or 39 years of service, she gets the most requests to sign the tantrum picture because.

[Kyle Olson]

Because. So they don't. And this is what's ironic about what you're saying. They're not focusing on her accomplishments. They're focusing on the fact that she hates Donald Trump so much she lost control and decided to tear up his speech. But again, the direction that the party is going is that you have her two potential replacements are Scott Wiener and this guy Sakat Chakrabarti, who used to work for aoc. And so those are the options that Democrats are going to replace Nancy Pelosi with. It's. But I think it's very indicative of the direction that the party is going. And so, you know, and of course, there's talk about AOC potentially, you know. Well, in fact, there was a poll that showed she's leading Gavin Newsom for the presidential nomination.

[Tudor Dixon]

Isn't that crazy?

[Kyle Olson]

This is the direction that the party is going.

[Tudor Dixon]

And they don't have. They really don't have a leader going forward. They haven't really had somebody come out of their group. I mean, I think they have options of, you know, they would see Josh Shapiro as maybe more of a moderate and then Newsom as the far progressive. But AOC is a farther progressive than him. He's just a snake.

[Kyle Olson]

I don't. I don't know if I would say moderate I would say sane versus all of, versus Gavin Newsom. And again, a little while ago we were talking about the fraud that's happening and that's being exposed in Minnesota and Ohio and elsewhere. What about California? California is spending billions of dollars every single year. Hundreds of billions of dollars. Where is all of that money going? They always seem to have deficits. Where is that going?

[Tudor Dixon]

I think the fraud that you see in Minneapolis and Ohio and Maine that we'll be talking about this entire time is nothing compared to making sure homelessness continues to be a problem in California. And San Francisco is one of the places that that is a top priority to keep homelessness a problem. And I say that because if it's not a problem, then where do you get that? I think it's probably, my gosh, when we were looking at it in 2018, it was 600 million. So we're probably looking at $1 billion industry in just. In just San Francisco. And then L. A, again is another billion dollars that they have to, to employ people who are going to prevent homelessness. And homelessness is at its highest number ever.

[Kyle Olson]

But they're not preventing it, they're managing it.

[Tudor Dixon]

Right? Yes, that's what I mean. They have to keep it there.

[Kyle Olson]

You have to have the problem, otherwise. Otherwise? Yes. If you get rid of the problem, then that person, that industry, that non profit, whatever it is, it's not needed anymore.

[Tudor Dixon]

And you've got all of these hotels and all of these facilities that they are supposedly what they're called the unhoused now because you can't even call it homelessness. So now you have to put the unhoused in these places that are very similar to the daycares. Those people aren't living there, they're living there. And that's not the problem with homelessness. The problem is that you have psychiatric problems and you have drug problems. It's not that you just have to find a house for them. We all know that. So this money is just going to people to have supposed housing. But I'm sure it's the same thing we're seeing in Minnesota.

[Kyle Olson]

Sure. And one of the projects you and I did together was a documentary called Dummy Crats with Diamond and Silk. And I went to San Francisco because part of the, part of the movie was how quickly can we find poop on the streets in San Francisco? We went in 2018. I mean, it was almost immediate. And they actually have people who power wash. Their job is to power wash the sidewalks. Because this is happening so much. So instead of dealing with the problem. They hire people to just manage it.

[Tudor Dixon]

You just see us more money, more money, more taxpayer money. We're going to get into fraud in Minnesota next. Doge was like the primer for this. We already talked about it on the federal level. We got to get into it on the state level. Don't forget, we want your listener calls at the end of the hour, so make sure you're calling that number at the end of the hour. It's 800-282-2882. We'll be right back.

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[Tudor Dixon]

To the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I am Tudor Dixon and I am guest hosting today. I have Kyle Olson with me from the Midwesterner. You can read it at the Midwesterner News. We want to get to the fraud in Minnesota. We've talked about it a lot today. You've heard us discussing this. I'm sure you've seen it online. If you haven't, I just kind of want to introduce it with a clip from this young man, this young reporter. His name is Nick Shirley. He's been kind of all over because this is just so stunning. He's almost a junior reporter. I think he's independent, right, Kyle?

[Kyle Olson]

Yes.

[Tudor Dixon]

So he's a young independent reporter. He just kind of started going to these daycares. He's like this. There's a massive amount of money. No one is seeing kids going in and out. And we know these are funded with taxpayer dollars. Now it's opening our eyes to like billions of dollars in fraud in Minnesota. So here is a quick overview of his work. We're going to play that now. What was this money spent on? 1.26 million.

[Steve Robinson]

What was that money spent during?

[Clay Travis]

Any kids?

[Tudor Dixon]

Answer the question.

[Clay Travis]

Are there children?

[Tudor Dixon]

There's no children inside this building.

[Clay Travis]

Potentially the largest fraud scandal in US.

[Tudor Dixon]

History is taking place in Minnesota as.

[Clay Travis]

Literally billions of dollars have been funneled through Somali ran fraudulent businesses so much it could actually almost replace the entire GDP of Somalia. These fraudsters have worked hand in hand.

[Tudor Dixon]

With the Minnesota government as they enabled.

[Clay Travis]

Billions of dollars to be given to fraudulent businesses underneath welfare purposes. Some of this money eventually landed in the hands of terrorist groups in Somalia like the Al Shabaab.

[Tudor Dixon]

Imagine finding out that your taxpayer dollars are going to replacing the whole GDP of the country going into the hands of immigrants. We don't even know if they're legal or if they're illegal. There's. I mean, if you're willing to give money to people who don't even have organizations, how do we know these people have even been vetted or given green cards or naturalized? Who knows what the story is? But to be able to trace that money back to terror groups is stunning.

[Kyle Olson]

One of the most shocking things out of this whole thing is the magnitude. And he just said it right there and you repeated it. That this fraud could amount to the entire GDP of that country. It's. It's hard to even, it's hard to even comprehend. But what, what, again, what is so fascinating about this is that it's a kid, a young man, whatever you want to call him, with a camera, going to places, politely asking questions. That's all he's doing. And he's met with hostility, with doors being slammed in his face.

[Tudor Dixon]

And in that clip you can hear someone screaming in the background. Now that's not English, obviously we all heard it. That's not English. But you're right, he goes there and he is really attacked for even asking these questions. So remember, we want to hear from you at the end of the hour. We want your opinions on this stuff. It's 800-282-2882. But stick around because we're going to actually talk to Steve Robinson after this. He's the editor in chief of Maine Wire. And there's also a problem with Somalis committing similar fraud in the state of Maine. We're hearing about it in Minneapolis, we're hearing about it in Ohio. Now we're going to hear about it in Maine. This is what Elon Musk was warning us about. This is why he was so hot and heavy to get this stuff taken care of at the federal level. Now we need to make sure we're taking care of it at the state level. So stick around. We'll be right back with Steve Robinson after this.

[Clay Travis]

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of Truth Foreign.

[Tudor Dixon]

Welcome back to the Clay and Buck Show. We are getting a lot of messages saying that Republicans are complicit in some of the this fraud. And we've actually got a breaking news story that I just want Kyle to tell us about before we bring in our guest. Here it is.

[Kyle Olson]

Yeah. So this story was just published at Ohio News and it involves a one of the Somali individuals that, that is doing a lot of business in the state, etc. And it says a Somali American entrepreneur and community leader who is connected to Republican Governor Mike DeWine face a personal income tax lien filed in 2024. And this, this individual, Farzan Jetty, if that's how you pronounce it, he was appointed by the governor to the new African Immigrants Commission shortly after losing a 2023 Columbus City Council race. And so here's a situation where he is involved with this nonprofit. It's funded by the city of Columbus. It's funded by the Ohio Department of Education. And the guy allegedly is not paying personal income taxes.

[Tudor Dixon]

And this is what happens. It's like, bring this person's popular. Bring them in. Republicans need to open their eyes. They need to make sure they're aware of this. I'm sure this is happening in Maine, too. That's why we have Steve Robinson here with us with the Maine Wire. He's been reporting on this kind of fraud for over 10 months now. Steve, thank you so much for coming on today.

[Steve Robinson]

Hey, thanks, Judah. Thanks for having me on.

[Tudor Dixon]

So this is the Somali community again. Why why is this so widespread?

[Steve Robinson]

Well, that would be a question best to ask to some of the Somali community leaders. But I think part of the reason from, I guess the perspective of elected officials here in the state of Maine is that they've turned a blind eye in order to accumulate the political benefits, in order to understand how the, the fraud problem has been allowed to develop and metastasize in Maine, you have to understand that it's not specifically a Somali problem, it's a Somali Democrat problem in that they enable each other because they both benefit, both communities benefit from it. The Somali community leaders, the gatekeepers to the Somali population, they benefit by accumulating wealth and nice houses and Mercedes Benzes. And the Democratic politicians can reliably count on, you know, thousands of votes being, you know, harvested for that for them out of migrant communities come election day. So they feed into one another. And the Democrats when they're in office, supply no bid contracts and grants and lucrative welfare and public benefit programs. And the Somali populations, the gatekeepers, the leaders of those populations, continue to encourage their people to vote for Democrats and support Democrats, even though in a lot of cases the more conservative Muslim Somalis have a, you know, a value set that is diametrically opposed to the democratic political agenda, especially when it comes to some of the public schools. You know, the allowing boys to play in girls sports, teaching about the gender unicorn, you know, these are not things that traditional Islamic Somali families want taught in public schools. But the directive to vote for and support democratic politicians overrides that.

[Tudor Dixon]

We'll never get that. Wasn't it your governor Janet Mills, who said I'll see you in court to the president about boys and girls sports? I thought it was Janet Mills.

[Kyle Olson]

It was.

[Steve Robinson]

Yes, it was. Governor Mills has, you know, decided that that's a hill she wants to die on. Even as she challenges senator Susan Collins for the senate seat. She's been running advertisements about her stance on this issue, which even in Maine is an 8020 issue with people supporting protection for sex based. And there will be a ballot initiative coming up in the fall where Mainers will get to decide whether sex based rights should be protected. Seems like it's headed for a victory. But Governor Mills has won re election in 2022 with strong support from the the so called new Mainer community, which is a euphemism that the left has created to describe illegal aliens who have entered this country and later filed a piece of paper in asylum form, you know, gotten in line with 5 million other people waiting for their asylum claim to be adjudicated. And while that process is happening, they can work legally, they can get benefits, they can get public housing, they can have children and get health care. In some cases they can get Medicaid. And so we have a large population here in Maine who are existing in this kind of gray zone where they're not a legal permanent resident, they're not a green card holder, they're not, they don't have permanent legal status. They're just asylum applicants who are on parole. But there's a number of benefits that they have as a result of being in this gray zone status. And they're a political coalition. Well, that depends on who you ask. The secretary of state of Maine, Shanna Bellows, is a die hard George Soros progressive. And before the 2024 election she attacked me personally questioned my patriotism because of some of our reporting about noncitizen voting. And more recently, in a podcast interview with Mark Elias, she admitted that yes, in fact, non citizens are registered to vote in the state of Maine. And she chuckled about it as if it was funny that you have noncitizens vot and, you know, canceling out the votes of, you know, Vietnam veterans in northern Maine.

[Tudor Dixon]

This is a, this is a coalition of secretaries of state that are like this. I mean, we, we heard this in 2024, that they were coordinating to make sure that the elections were run, quote, unquote, fairly, which we know exactly what that means. But this is a new thing that what you just said, questioning your patriot, patriotism because you want things done the right way. And how do you battle that? How do you battle that? Because you are talking about election fraud and you were talking about, I mean, across the country, we are looking at billions of dollars of taxpayer money that is going into the hands of people who are likely not even citizens of this country. I mean, you're talking about them driving nicer cars than most Americans will ever drive.

[Steve Robinson]

Oh, absolutely. And one of the ways that we've fought back is through investigative reporting@the mainwire.com we publish all of our findings. We emphasize public records, we look at contracts and spending patterns. And one of the things that we were able to uncover about the 2022 election is that the Mills administration supplied through no bid contracts, millions of dollars in Covid money that was originally signed off on by president Joe Biden to a coalition of migrant groups, including Gateway community Services, which is the Somali run main care firm that has now been accused by a former employee of committing systemic Medicaid fraud For a period of five and a half years. They gave no bid contract money to this panoply of migrant organizations to create what was called community health outreach workers or chows. And the job of a chow paid for by the American taxpayer was to go door to door in migrant communities and sign people up for Medicaid for food stamps. And if you look at the fine print of the contracts, they were even allowed to buy groceries and household supplies for these migrant households. It's basically walking around money, really. They were allowed to keep track very careful data of the number of adults of voting age in those houses and use that data for whatever purposes their organizations wanted to use that data for, AKA get out the vote operations. And then these same organizations created explicitly political coalitions operating out of the same offices. So what you have is taxpayer money, Covid money provided from the federal government to Maine, given to allies of the Mills administration to fund voter outreach in migrant communities. Because under federal law, if you sign somebody up for an EBT card or for Medicaid, you are required to offer them assistance registering to vote. So any, any taxpayer funded initiative to sign someone up for snap, an EBT guard, Medicaid is also a get out the vote drive. So we had a taxpayer funded outreach on behalf of the Democratic party that propelled governor Janet Mills to her reelection.

[Kyle Olson]

So is she using this apparatus now to run for the senate?

[Steve Robinson]

Absolutely she is. This organization, in fact, this organization still exists, but because of the attention that has been drawn to Gateway Community Services, they are now scrubbing their websites.

[Tudor Dixon]

That's what I saw. I saw you saying that suddenly they're scrubbing all their websites. I mean, that should be a red flag if I've ever seen one.

[Steve Robinson]

It is a major red flag. And the people who were affiliated with this political project, a taxpayer funded arm of the Democrat party, these are not just, you know, activists, college Democrat shlops, these are former chiefs of staff to the senate president. These are, you know, top ranking executives that planned Parenthood, these are big time Democrat fundraisers who were on the board of a taxpayer funded migrant vote harvesting operation and now they're trying to scrub the, scrub the Internet clean that they had any connection or relationship with these organizations. So if this was an above board operation that they were running, they wouldn't be doing that. But of course, the reporting about this, it sounds so outlandish and conspiratorial that, you know, you got to put your tinfoil hat on just to believe what I'm saying. But it's all there in the government contracts, in the spending records, and in the public statements that they've made themselves. I'm sitting here right now in Lewiston, Maine, just less than a quarter mile away from the Canal street office, where all of these organizations just happen to have the same headquarters right in the middle of all the subsidized housing where the migrants live and where it's very, very easy to register them to vote, get them to vote early, collect all their absentee ballots, and then stuff them anonymously into a ballot box and suddenly Paul LePage, Franco American Paul LePage, who didn't even speak English until he was 11, loses Lewiston, Maine for the first time in his political career back in 2022.

[Tudor Dixon]

This is a story that we are hearing across the country. And I can tell you about it in Minnesota. I can tell you about it here in Michigan too. I mean, if I look at the numbers in 2018. Suddenly in 2018, the Democrats gain 800,000 votes and there is no way to explain how they have gained this massive amount of votes and held them in this state. But as you say this like, I don't have to have a tinfoil hat. I've seen these numbers. I've looked at this. I know there's something going on. But I appreciate the fact that you are out there fighting to get the right information out to the people every day. Steve Robinson at mainwire, thank you so much for being on today.

[Steve Robinson]

Thank you very much for having me on.

[Tudor Dixon]

Absolutely. And everybody else, please stick around. We want to talk to you next. So call in. It's 800-282-2882. We want to hear what you think about everything we've talked about. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

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[Tudor Dixon]

To the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm Tutor Dixon from the Tudor Dixon Podcast alongside Kyle Olson from the Midwesterner News. We want to take your questions now, your calls and actually we have a caller who has been waiting for us and that is Jay from Ohio. Jay, are you still waiting there? Do we have Jay? Jay's gone. All right, let's pull in. Bob from Georgia.

[Steve Robinson]

Yes. Hey Tutor. I love what you're doing. So can you hear me okay?

[Tudor Dixon]

Yes, I can.

[Steve Robinson]

Okay, great. So three quick points. Been watching this for decades. People come into this country not assimilating and the Somalis are the latest, most blaring example, glaring example of that. They don't want to be American. They want what we have in America. And then the second thing is I've been watching things since, you know, I really woke up in 2012 with Benghazi. There's no accountability. And I really believe the political process is going to protect people even if Tim Waltz is made to be held accountable, Keith Ellison and so many other people participating. And I just don't see people going to jail. And I'm not being negative. I'm just watching what the history is and just a real silly kind of simple thing here. You know, I thought to myself, what is a billion dollars? And I thought, okay, it's $100 stack 10 times on top of itself, $100 million. And we got nine cases of that. And it's just, it's mind blowing what's going on here. And then the last thing, real quickly, I happen to belong have to subscribe to Direct TV. We're fighting a direct, an uphill battle because DirecTV has these, they call it, they call it news mix. And they've got four news channels on there. They got MSN, MS, NOW, CNN, BBC and Fox. So when.

[Tudor Dixon]

So you can only see so much. I know that is this and this is exactly what you're saying. We are on it. I want to, I got Jay back so I want to go to him. But Bob, thank you so much for calling in. Jay, really quick, I want to bring you in because I know you've been waiting. Thank you for calling.

[Steve Robinson]

Yes, thank you. Hey, this all goes back to 2013 with the Obamacare Medicaid expansion. And I've been following this in Ohio for five or six years. For back in 2013 we were promised and these red state rhinos like Mike DeWine took a deal from Obamacare that said open up your Medicaid expansion, meaning lower the bar, let everybody in and we'll pay for it till 2016 for three years. Thirteen years later, 90 cents on every Medicaid dollar spent in Ohio comes from the federal government. Ohio has this hospital franchise fee that provides $3 from the federal government to Ohio for every dollar sent from Ohio to the Fed to be reimbursed. And there was a report, there's a man, there's an, there's a mandatory report from the CMS with RFK Jr and the Trump administration they support that showed Ohio had a 43.3% fraud rate on a $40 billion annual spend. And that's one line item on our state budget that is the size of Pennsylvania's entire state budget. And the reason is that these red state rhinos are making big fat bank because they don't care that the federal government is spending this. My question to the Trump administration and RFK junior Is you control the valve.

[Clay Travis]

Shut off.

[Steve Robinson]

Shut off the Medicaid expansion. Why do we still have Barack Obama's Medicaid expansion from 2013?

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, Jay, we hope they're listening. We think they are. Everybody. Thank you so much, Jay, for calling in. Everybody else, stick around because we've got a great hour three for you. Coming up with James Blair. You're not going to want to miss it.

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