The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 – The "White Men Are Evil" Argument
Date: October 28, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This episode centers on the growing use of race and identity politics within the Democratic Party, especially what Clay Travis and Buck Sexton frame as the narrative that "white men are evil." They critically examine recent public statements and attitudes, particularly among progressive politicians and academics, arguing that these contribute to a toxic and divisive political climate. Through humor, historical comparison, and strong opinions, they analyze progressive rhetoric, its supposed historical inaccuracy, and its implications for the 2026 campaign and broader American society.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Democrat Messaging & Progressive Identity Politics

(02:15–08:02)

• Analysis of Governor Hochul’s Response
  The hosts revisit NY Governor Kathy Hochul’s apparent ignorance of the “Tax the Rich” chant at a rally. They see her response (“I thought they were saying ‘let’s go Bills’”) as either dishonest or a display of political panic.

  “Moron or liar?” – Buck Sexton (04:35)
  “Liar here, sometimes. Often a moron. But she did not think they were saying ‘let’s go Bills.’” – Clay Travis (04:40)

• Internal Democrat Struggles with Progressivism
  Clay highlights how progressive figures like AOC and Zohran Mamdani represent a looming PR risk for the Democratic Party among moderate voters. There’s growing concern that the party’s increasingly left-leaning urban policies could alienate voters nationwide.

  “I think New York City liberal and California liberal is going to be a huge part of the 2026 campaign. Because... you’re going to have [progressive politicians] and you’re just going to say those are New York City liberals.” – Clay Travis (05:31)

2. The “White Men Are Evil” Ideology – Origins and Critique

(08:16–17:12)

• Focus on Zohran Mamdani and His Father Mahmood Mamdani
  The hosts play a clip from Mahmood Mamdani, Columbia professor and father of NY’s Zohran Mamdani, in which he links American settler colonialism to Nazi policies and the model for genocide.

  “America is the genesis of what we call settler colonialism... The Nuremberg laws were patterned after American laws.” – Mahmood Mamdani (Soundbite at 10:08)

• Host Reactions: Attacking the Premises and History
  Buck and Clay attack the historical accuracy of these claims and relate them to contemporary arguments that vilify white men and America as uniquely evil.

  “The notion... that America came up with the idea of genocide in all of human history is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen. Only a truly historically ignorant person who hates white men would say such a thing.” – Buck Sexton (17:12)

  • Broader Historical Context
    • Clay and Buck argue that conquest, violence, and shifting populations have been universal throughout history, not unique to white Europeans.
    • They discuss how pre-Columbian empires (e.g., Incas, Zulus) also engaged in conquest and oppression, points often omitted from progressive critiques.

    “The story of human civilization is human populations move to areas where there was no people... At what point does land become owned by someone?” – Clay Travis (16:28)

• Delegitimization of America
  The hosts claim that such historical narratives are deliberately designed to delegitimize the US Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and American identity.

  “It’s an intentional argument because what it leads to is a delegitimization of the country and its founding...” – Clay Travis (14:05)

3. Critiquing the State of American Politics and Media

(24:12–34:39)

• Biden’s “Worse Than Ever” Rhetoric
  The hosts discuss Joe Biden’s recent speeches about American democracy being under threat and suggest that his rhetoric is empty and self-serving.

  “It's just empty platitudes hoarsely shouted into a microphone. What is the purpose of this, Clay?” – Buck Sexton (25:51)

  Clay counters with positivity, comparing current global conditions to historical low-points, suggesting that Trump's previous term was one of the best in his lifetime.

  “Almost all [Trump’s choices] are eminently reasonable for what I would say is the 75% of sane Americans.” – Clay Travis (27:06)

• Media and Identity Shielding
  Clay argues that figures like White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre have been insulated from criticism due to identity politics, but this shield is now breaking down as mainstream media begins to question their competence.

  “Karine Jean-Pierre can be a gay black woman. Doesn’t mean she didn’t suck at her job. You can’t use your identity as both sword and shield anymore.” – Clay Travis (28:07)

  • Media Accountability
    Buck suggests the media is now turning on former Biden defenders because they feel publicly humiliated for supporting him despite visible signs of cognitive decline.

    “They have been made to be publicly humiliated by going along with the emperor has no clothes here situation with Biden...” – Buck Sexton (33:19)

4. Listener Interactions and Lighter Moments

(40:25–44:58)

• Talkbacks from Listeners
  • Callers defend the merits of Texas as a desirable state alongside Tennessee and Florida (no state income tax being a big draw).
  • Clay admits to losing sports bets to Sean Hannity and explains why he hasn’t paid up.
  • A humorous moment surfaces when a listener jokes about Clay’s rooftop pool and accidental nudity.

    “Nobody wants to see me naked. If you want to look, you can look. Sorry construction guys. Sorry Pam.” – Clay Travis (44:07)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Democrat Identity Politics:
  “What annoys clay the most is not the hatred of America. It’s the wrong history.” – Buck Sexton (11:47)

• On Historical Accuracy:
  “If I get a historical fact wrong, it actually makes me feel sick to my stomach.” – Clay Travis (35:09)

• On Media Turning Against Biden:
  “They look like fools too. They have been made to be publicly humiliated... So it’s the effort to clean up their own reputations and also take out some of their frustrations...” – Buck Sexton (33:19)

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 02:15–08:02 | Discussion of NY politics, “Tax the Rich” chants, Democrat branding | | 08:16–17:12 | Breakdown of Mahmood Mamdani’s remarks and critique of “settler colonialism” arguments | | 24:12–27:06 | Critique of Biden’s current rhetoric (“empty platitudes”) and “worst in 50 years” claim | | 28:07–34:39 | Media’s treatment of Karine Jean-Pierre and reckoning with Biden’s fitness | | 40:25–44:58 | Listener calls: Texas pride, betting with Sean Hannity, and a humorous take on Clay’s home life |

Conclusion

The second hour of the October 28, 2025, episode is defined by Travis and Sexton’s energetic and often irreverent analysis of progressive identity politics, criticisms of historical revisionism, and the political challenges facing the Democratic Party. They intersperse historical references, pointed critiques of media hypocrisy, and moments of humor, delivering a conversation that’s both combative and engaging for their audience. Their opposition to what they see as the left’s “white men are evil” narrative is a through-line, framed as a rallying call for center-right and moderate voters heading toward the 2026 election season.