Hour 2 - They Will Do It Again

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 – "They Will Do It Again"

Date: September 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

This hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delves into major political stories and controversies, focusing primarily on Kamala Harris’s new book and her veepstakes disclosures, the deep divisions within the Democratic coalition, and—most critically—the acknowledgment by YouTube/Google that they censored conservative voices under pressure from the Biden administration. The hosts provide analysis, personal anecdotes, and spirited debate, peppered with humor and sharp criticism of both the current administration and “woke” culture in general. The episode is characterized by candid, sometimes irreverent, conversation, with recurring themes of free speech, identity politics, and the future of the Democratic Party.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kamala Harris Book Revelations & the Democratic VP Pick Process

• Clay Travis recaps that Kamala Harris is on a media tour for her new book and was recently pressed by Rachel Maddow on her VP selection rationale. This included a focus on why she did not pick prominent figures like Josh Shapiro, Gavin Newsom, J.B. Pritzker, and Pete Buttigieg.
  • (03:28–08:10)
• Clay’s Analysis: Suggests that considerations around identity politics and perceptions of minority voters were central—specifically noting that Harris believed a Jewish or gay running mate would be “unselectable” with large Democratic voting blocs.
  • “Josh Shapiro’s out because he’s Jewish and maybe a little too ambitious… she would have picked Mayor Pete but was concerned that Mayor Pete was gay, and…it was asking too much of the electorate…” – Clay Travis [05:17]
• Harris’s remarks on the topic (from The Rachel Maddow Show) play, with Kamala arguing her decisions were about risk mitigation, not personal prejudice.
  • Kamala Harris [07:23]: “To say that he couldn’t be on the ticket effectively because he was gay is hard to hear. No, no, no, that’s not what I said…”
• The hosts discuss how Harris’s explanations indirectly reinforce difficult truths about coalition politics and persistent divisions within key Democratic groups.

2. Identity Politics & Democratic Party Tensions

• Buck Sexton and Clay note that the Democratic “identity coalition” is at war with itself—in particular, how it deals with conflicting views and priorities around race, ethnicity, and sexuality.
  • Buck [10:14]: “She’s forced herself to speak on the issue that all Democrats know is not supposed to be spoken of…that a Democrat candidate cannot win…if he or she is gay, cannot win the primary because they cannot win the black vote.”
• Clay posits that Harris’s book passage is a shrewd maneuver to “undercut Mayor Pete” while appearing to pass blame to others. Buck agrees: this is internal politicking at work.

3. Will Kamala Harris Run Again?

• The hosts play and discuss Kamala’s interview exchange about her political future. She dodges direct answers about a 2028 run for president or other office.
  • Kamala Harris [12:47]: “That’s not my focus right now. I know. That’s not my focus at all. I know. It really isn’t.”
• Clay and Buck recall historical context, referencing Nixon’s failed runs and comeback as an outlier, making the case that running for governor after the presidency is “a step back.”

4. Free Speech, YouTube Censorship & the Biden Administration

• Major story: YouTube (owned by Google) has admitted to Congressional investigators that it censored, demonetized, and suppressed conservative speech and content at the behest of the Biden White House—often when it did not even violate their own policies.
  • Clay’s account (27:29): He describes firsthand how, as the head of Outkick, his content was struck, demonetized, or edited if it questioned COVID policies, mandates, or vaccines.
    • “This is what they did…they stopped allowing my show to air live and they would edit out any reference that I happened to make to COVID shots, to masking…then post it so they could monetize the other aspects of the show. Think about how crazy that is.” – Clay Travis [28:07]
• Buck laments that the censorship was widespread, targeted, and did real financial and reputational harm—emphasizing this was a rigged game. The platforms, he says, have only just admitted this because “the wind is blowing” with the possibility of a power shift.
• Notable Quote:
  • Buck Sexton [31:59]: “We should not have any illusions they would do this again in a heartbeat. And it’s not a fair game. It’s a rigged game on YouTube. It’s a rigged game on Facebook and has been for years, and rigged against people who are right of center.”
• Clay provides details from House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan: the Biden administration “pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate YouTube’s policies” and the company has admitted this.
• The hosts recall specific, public examples: YouTube wouldn’t allow them to post interviews with Sen. Rand Paul (an M.D.), or even with President Trump.

5. The Supreme Court’s Failure to Defend Online Free Speech

• Clay and Buck sharply criticize the Supreme Court’s recent refusal to clearly prohibit government “deputization” of tech companies for censorship, calling it one of the worst First Amendment decisions in recent times.
• Buck notes that trust with social platforms is likely irreparably damaged, even as the hosts encourage listeners to help them “fight the fight” on YouTube and other platforms while they can.

6. Lighthearted Segments: Kamala “Commologists,” Analogies, and On-Air Banter

• Listener “Dave from Syracuse” proposes the term "commodists" for experts on Kamala Harris; hosts joke about buying Kamala’s book for research and how disconnected this is from most of their audience [23:56–25:26].
• The hosts riff on the Princetonian pronunciation of “scion” (as in a family heir, not ‘sky-on’), and commiserate over the difficulty of their kids’ homework, noting how tough even fifth grade is now [46:29–47:58].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Democratic infighting (Buck Sexton, 10:14):
  • “The identity politics coalition of the Democrats is inherently at odds with itself… you just hope you cobble together enough votes from these different groups… who have very different views.”
• On YouTube censorship (Clay Travis, 28:07):
  • “They stopped allowing my show to air live and they would edit out any reference that I happened to make to Covid shots, to masking… so they could monetize the other aspects of the show. Think about how crazy that is.”
• On the future of online free speech (Buck Sexton, 39:40):
  • “Online is the town square now. If you don’t have free speech online, you don’t have it meaningfully anywhere. And that’s the pro[blem].”
• On Kamala’s political prospects (Clay Travis, 13:32):
  • “I think we all know that she’s not running for governor of California because…if she loses, she’s definitely not running for president then. So it’s all or not.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Kamala Harris book, VP pick discussion: 03:28 – 10:14
• Rachel Maddow audio, Harris on Buttigieg: 07:23 – 08:10
• Analysis: Democratic coalition, identity politics: 10:14 – 12:40
• Kamala’s future/2028 run: 12:47 – 17:09
• YouTube/Google censorship revelations: 27:29 – 36:49
• Direct quotes from Judiciary Committee findings: 34:22 – 36:49
• Supreme Court free speech critique: 36:49 – 39:40
• Listener “commodist” call; show banter: 23:56, 25:04, 46:29

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Summary & Takeaways

• Kamala Harris’s new book is revealing in unexpected ways, casting light on the realpolitik of identity for Democratic nominees and igniting debate about the party’s internal divisions.
• The exposure of government-pressured YouTube censorship is a major story, with the hosts forcefully arguing that this constitutes a broad, dangerous attack on free speech—and that the risk will persist as long as tech platforms and power remain aligned.
• Both the right and left can be punished or suppressed by systems designed and run by corporate partners of government, especially in the digital "town square".
• Despite the weight of these topics, the hosts maintain their trademark humor and rapport, poking fun at themselves, Kamala Harris, and each other, keeping the show lively and engaging.

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This episode is essential listening for those interested in the ongoing battles over free speech, the state of American party politics, and the intersection of technology and power—all delivered in Clay and Buck’s signature, unfiltered style.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in. Now we're number two Tuesday edition Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us, encourage you as always. Search us out on social media. You can find the Clay and buck show on YouTube. We'll get into YouTube a bit, maybe a little bit later in this hour in some of the revelations coming out about YouTube. You can find us on Instagram, you can find us on Twitter, you can find us on TikTok. Basically, if there is a site out there, Clay and Buck, the show is there also. Buck and I are there with our own accounts so you can find us anywhere. NEWS Jimmy Kimmel returning. We talked about that in the first hour. Trump at the UN we will play some of that audio for you guys before the show is done today. But Kamala Harris has her new book out. She is doing a media tour. You heard us playing some of the Take from the View. But last night her opening interview was with Rachel Maddow and Rachel Maddow actually did a little bit of journalism because she pushed Kamala Harris on some of the arguments that are the most ridiculous that Kamala is making, in particular having to do with her vice president choice. And Buck, you as the Kamala Harris expert, having already purchased her book, will soon be able to tell us whether the news reports are accurate on this.

[Buck Sexton]

I we prefer to be called Kamal Ologists.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, that's a tough word. So Kamala Harris, the book is out and she dove into as part of the book, she is explaining why she ended up picking Tim Walls as her vice presidential pick. I give you credit, Buck, because she basically is saying Josh Shapiro thought he was too good for the number two job as vp, which was your take. I would also submit that I do believe him being Jewish made him in the mind of Kamala Harris. Given how close Michigan was going to be an unselectable vice presidential candidate. I think that speaks to the issues that now exist in the left in this country where being pro Israel is an unacceptable position. I think you're seeing Chuck Schumer in real time try to figure out how does he balance the old school pro Israel Democrat base that elected him for the past several decades with the new aoc. Israel is a bad guy and Palestine is the good guy angle, even in the wake of the Hamas terror attack. I would submit that is a sign of the failure to distinguish between good and evil, which the Democrat Party is rampant with right now. Uh, so Josh Shapiro's out because he's Jewish and because maybe he was a little bit too ambitious. Gavin Newsom, and I still think this is really funny. Gavin Newsom refused to even return Kamala Harris's phone call. J.B. pritzker, the super wealthy sky on of the with Hyatt. I think it's the Hyatt family fortune in the, in the hotel business. He said, I can't make a decision because Illinois is hosting the the event. And then she started to run through some of the other possibilities and she said she would have picked Mayor Pete, but she was concerned that Mayor Pete was gay and, and that it was asking too much of the electorate, given that she was a black and Asian woman married to a Jewish man, to pick a gay running mate. And Kamala Harris got confronted about this a little bit. Here is what it sounded like last night. MSNBC with Rachel Maddow on that particular issue.

[Kamala Harris]

Listen, to say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively because he was gay is hard to hear. No, no, no, that's not what I said. That, that's that he couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay. My point, as I write in the book, is that I was clear that in 107 days, in one of the most hotly contested elections for President of the United States against someone like Donald Trump, who knows no floor should be a black woman running for President of the United States. And as a vice presidential running mate, a gay man, with the stakes being so high, it made me very sad. But I also realized it would be a real risk.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. What she's trying to argue and doing it in very Kamala Harris inarticulate fashion, Buck, I think, is I'm not homophobic, but lots of people are homophobic and, and therefore I could not pick Mayor Pete. What she's not saying is a lot of the homophobes are actually black voters in the Democrat Party because Mayor Pete in South Carolina, when suddenly black voters have a huge say in the Democrat primary, wouldn't vote for him at all. And right now in the. Did you see the. A couple of months ago, they came out with a poll of black voters. Mayor Pete's at 0%. I think Kamala Harris is not telling the truth here. Go figure. But I think they had data, and they said, you've already got an issue with black men. 21% of them ended up voting Trump. But if you have a gay white guy as your vice president, your issues with black men are going to explode in a way that makes you unelectable. In other words, this is a sign of a substantial element of homophobia. You know who loves Mayor Pete? White people. White women love Mayor Pete. They would. If only white women in America voted Pete, Mayor Pete would be right now the President of the United States. Black men do not. And this goes to the tension of the coalition of the party that Democrats have. Have built.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I do think it's. It's funny that Kamala decided to go there right now. She didn't have to do this, really.

[Clay Travis]

That's in her book. Again, this is. Sometimes you have these unforced errors in books where you have 10 people reading them. This is like with the Kristi Noem, we talked about it, shooting the dog thing. I'm like, I don't know that I'd want that to be one of the hallmarks of my autobiography. If I were advising her, I don't know that I would go into explaining why you didn't pick Mayor Pete and saying, the country's not ready for a gay guy. I got a theory on this, Buck, but I want to hear your.

[Buck Sexton]

But this is. My point, is that she's forced herself to speak on the issue that all Democrats know is not supposed to be spoken of, which is that a Democrat candidate cannot win if he or she is gay, cannot win the primary because they cannot win the black vote. And there's such a substantial black Democrat primary voting block that it's game over. And you're not. All the data shows this, but you're not supposed to talk about this, because what it begins to bring out is the identity politics coalition of the Democrats is inherently at odds with itself in a whole range of different ways. And that's where you're just supposed to shut up and you just hope you cobble together enough votes from these different groups, in some cases, who have very different views of what the future of the country should look like or. But as long as they're all getting their piece of the pie, so to speak, everything is supposed to be fine. Kamala Harris is not an adept politician. I said this all along. She was pushed through the California system, where you can just get by with identity politics and the right connections. You know, becoming the attorney general and then a senator from California does not require you to. To have to play the game the way that if you're going to be a senator from Virginia or a senator from North Carolina or from Arizona, let's say require. You know, you have to understand the game a little bit differently. She got to just let the system elevate her all the way through. And this is why she's saying this is. I mean, do you want to. Do you want to talk here?

[Clay Travis]

She's. Let me. Well, hold on. Let me give you my neat. Let me give you my idea. If I were trying to be incredibly charitable to Kamala for how this gets in the book, she's directly undercutting Mayor Pete while looking like she's not. In other words, if she comes out and just directly says, hey, black guys aren't going to vote for a gay white guy, then it actually looks bad for her. Here she is trying to finesse and let other people make the argument that she herself is not making because she actually sees Mayor Pete and as one of her top adversaries in the event that she runs again.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, here she is asked about whether she's going to run again. 18, play it.

[Kamala Harris]

Consider running in 2028. That's not my focus right now. I know. That's not my focus at all. I know. It really isn't.

[Clay Travis]

You know.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah. Well, let me. I know you're not considering it now, but are you. Are you saying when you decided you're.

[Buck Sexton]

Not going to run for governor of California.

[Kamala Harris]

Correct.

[Clay Travis]

Were you saying you are never going.

[Kamala Harris]

To run for anything ever again, or.

[Clay Travis]

Were you just saying, I'm not going.

[Buck Sexton]

To run for that office right now?

[Kamala Harris]

That was the decision before me, and I made the decision not to run for governor of California. By the way, there are a lot of great candidates running, and I love my state, and we want somebody to definitely follow in the footsteps of Gavin in terms of standing up and understanding the power that California has to stand up to what we're saying in D.C.

[Buck Sexton]

I think we all know that she's not running for governor of California because that means she's, you know, she's not going to be able to do both. And if she were to lose, she's definitely not running for president then. So it's all. Or not. Once you've run for president, I don't really know that you can run for anything else. Realistically, I, you know, I think I should say once you've been, I'm sorry, once you've been the nominee for president, I think it's very hard. Yeah, of course you can run and run for other things, but I mean, if you've been the top of the ticket and you lose, I don't think you then generally are like, you know what, I'm going to be a congressman now or I'm going to run for Senate or, or I'm even going to be a governor.

[Clay Travis]

Historically, if I'm not mistaken, Nixon did just that. Right now, it's been 50 years, but Nixon lost the presidency by a smidge to jfk. And then he ran for governor of California, lost. And I think that's when he said he was like had his fit and told the press, you're never going to have Nixon to kick around anymore. And then he came back and won in 68. Well, the historians out there let me know if that's true. Now I do think, Kamala, trying to.

[Buck Sexton]

Memory poll, if you nailed all that, by the way, I think the point still stands. I think it's very, very, very unlikely that somebody will do that, especially in the current political and media environment. But the fact that it has ever happened would be pretty remarkable.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's true. I think that's why Mayor Pete decided not to run in the state of Michigan. Remember, he left South Bend, Indiana. He now lives in Traverse City, Michigan. Shout out to all of our new listeners in Traverse City. Fan. Fantastic place. I was up in Northern Michigan over the weekend talking to a lot of you. And I do think, first of all, that's not a bad question from Rachel Maddow. And she's smart, right? That actually is a question that got an answer. You knew she's going to dodge it. And then she followed up and said, okay, well, was that California decision a no to politics going forward or was it a note of just that particular office? Because it does leave open the door, by the way.

[Buck Sexton]

You nailed the timeline. Nixon ran and lost a close election of JFK in 1960, 1962, ran for governor of California and lost to Democrat incumbent Pat Brown. And then Nixon said, you won't have Nixon to kick around anymore. And everyone believed his political career was over at that point. So there is one comeback kid situation here in 68. After several years of supporting other Republican candidates, Nixon launched a successful comeback campaign. Defeated Hubert Humphrey and third party candidate George Wallace to win the presidency. But it didn't end up so great for good.

[Clay Travis]

Old Dick actually won the presidency twice then won pretty comfortably I think in 72 and then obviously threw up the deuces getting on the airplane on the White House lawn after he was forced to. Ignominious.

[Buck Sexton]

A whole other conversation. Nixon's real crime, if there is such a thing, was just being such a successful and dedicated anti communist and the left never forgave him for that one. But that's a whole other conversation also.

[Clay Travis]

I think there's a, the Nixon and the Watergate investigation and Woodward and Bernstein. There's so many angles to that story still because I think it continues to infect the way that media covers Republican politicians to this day. It changed the calculus to a large extent forever.

[Buck Sexton]

I also think though that Kamala, irrespective of whether she knew the Nixon history and maybe she did, maybe she didn't, she realized if she ran for governor and lost, that's she's, she's a two time loser from her home state. And you know, in her own reality, I think there's just no way she, it's either run for president or run for nothing.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's true and I think your, your analysis is not wrong at all in it's correct that once you run for president it's seen as a step back. Now Vivek is doing it right, but he lost really about being the nominee.

[Buck Sexton]

It's about being the running. When there's 15 people running. It's just as I said, it's like more, you know, it's the Vivek, I guess, however, knows Vivek.

[Clay Travis]

Mitt Romney went back and became a senator.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

There are some guys, but I think everybody kind of knew Mitt Romney's political career was over and he still wanted to be in the game, so to speak. But by and large I think she's going to run now. I think she's an awful candidate. The Gavin Newsom line is a little bit interesting there because Gavin Newsom not calling her back Buck. This is to me it should be talked about way more.

[Buck Sexton]

This is, he's going to have to convince. I mean he's going to have to find ways to sweet talk Kamala into not running because all she does is take attention, funding and focus off of him from that California ecosystem, political ecosystem early on. And so this is again, this is where I think whatever she, whatever appointment she wants, whatever cushy gig, you know, maybe something that's got longtime tenure attached to it. That's, that's the Gavin Newsom plan. You do not want to spend your first few months of the primary fighting it out with somebody over your home state who's already been vice president.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And already has a solid donor network and everything else. Right. So he's got to find a way to he wants her to not run. And then some are we got it. We'll come back. We can get into this a little bit more. Our society works because of the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment. Everyday Americans should be able to speak openly about family traditional values and not fear retribution. And that's a principle that PureTalk proudly supports. You know that PureTalk is our cell phone provider and a sponsor of this show and that allows us to stand strongly behind this microphone every day and speak the truth to you. So it's important that you support brands that support your values, American values. And that's what Pure Talk does. And with plans Starting from just $25 a month, you can save a ton of money with them. Pure Talk also believes in creating American jobs and supporting small business. So if you're a small business owner, you can save even more while enjoying white glove service. Stand with companies who share your values. Dial pound 250, say Clay and Buck to switch to Pure Talk Right now. You'll save an additional 50% off your first month. Dial £250, say Clay and buck to switch to Pure Talk. Do it today.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We love talkbacks. The iHeartRadio app, you gotta have it on your phones. All of you should have it downloaded. Make sure you subscribe. Subscribe to the Clan Buck podcast network. Got great stuff there. David Rutherford, Tudor Dixon, Carol Markowitz and so many others. Really, really good shows. But you can also send us talkbacks like Dave from Syracuse who listens on 570WSYR play BB. I would just like to suggest for what you call someone who is an expert on Kamala Harris, maybe just go with commodities. It's it rolls off the tongue easier. You don't trip over it. So commodist, commologist. I think he's right.

[Clay Travis]

Like a general basically, yeah. One also just apologist because much of what you do is have to apologize for the arguments that she is actually making on her as an official representative.

[Buck Sexton]

Of the Society of Commologists. You know, I think let's just give this our due respect here. You know, maybe there's some apologizing, but there's also some celebrating of Kamala's most amusing moments.

[Clay Travis]

What percentage of this audience do you think like you has purchased Kamala's book already?

[Buck Sexton]

Is this because they know that my job is to do it, to bring them the golden nuggets from the book.

[Clay Travis]

Is that I'm here for the thing that you have most done in four years that the audience will least do. In other words, is this your biggest divergence in behavior from the audience?

[Buck Sexton]

It's definitely top five high on the list. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Oh no, I think it's watching.

[Buck Sexton]

Watching Morning Joe is up there too.

[Clay Travis]

Look, prize picks. We've won two of the first three weeks. On Thursday I'm gonna give you some new picks, but I want you to just go download the app right now. Prizepix.com use my name. Clay. You get $50 when you play. Five dollars. We've hit on two nearly five to ones already. On Thursday for the NFL action, I will give you a pick and hopefully we can win again. All you have to do is go to prizepix.com, code. Clay, you can play in California, Texas, Georgia. In fact, I'm going to be down in Georgia for that Alabama Georgia game this weekend. But I'M going to give you an NFL pick on Thursday. Go ahead and download the pick. You get $50 when you play. $5. Use my name, Clay. That's prizepix.com code clay to play along with us. Welcome back in Clay Travis. BUCK Sexton SHOW okay, this is something that is significant that I think actually ties in quite a bit with the Jimmy Kimmel story. So Jimmy Kimmel is going to be back on air much of the nation, but not if you have a nexstar or a Sinclair affiliate carrying your ABC station. I have a nexstar affiliate here in Nashville. So I will not get Jimmy Kimmel's show tonight. Some of you will. Some of you will not. It will return. I'm sure we'll be talking about what he will say there. But there has been a massive outpouring of attention on Jimmy Kimmel not having his show. He was preempted, suspended, whatever phrase you want to use from the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Monday editions of his program. And he is now going to be back on air on Tuesday. So he missed four shows. You would think that it was the largest, most significant attack on free speech that we have ever seen, based on the response from the left. So Jimmy misses four shows. Similarly, if you care about free speech, a story that is almost gonna get no attention whatsoever, but I think is one of the most significant of the 21st century, and that is YouTube has admitted that it censored conservative speakers on their platform at the behest of the Biden administration. We're going to talk to Jim Jordan about this tomorrow. But, Buck, let me just give you a sense for how this went down. As someone who ran a media company and needed to be making money on YouTube, as many media companies do, every time I mentioned the COVID shot and said, hey, I don't think you should get the COVID shot. I don't think you need it if you're young and healthy. All these things which have been proven to be true. You mentioned masking. Every time I said things like wearing a mask when you walk into a restaurant and then taking it off when you sit down at a table is nonsensical. We would get strikes, and when we got strikes, they would prevent us from monetizing our content. And at one point in time, because Tommy Lahren is also one of our employees at Outkick, at one point in time, they suspended us, I believe it was for a month from being able to make any money at all. And they now are saying, hey, we shouldn't have done that and we'll talk about it with Jim Jordan. But this is actual free speech being attacked. And unlike Jimmy Kimmel, who would have the opportunity to miss four days and come back and he's making millions of dollars, many people out there, including you, Buck, were curtailed significantly, including me, including the company that I ran outkick because we were willing to say the truth about the COVID shot and about wearing masks and about all of this, such that this is what they did. This is crazy, but I'm just. I'm taking you behind the curtain. I sold the company in 2021. They stopped allowing my show to air live, and they would edit out any reference that I happened to make to Covid shots, to masking, to. To schools being closed, all those things, and then post it so they could monetize the other aspects of the show. Think about how crazy that is. That is what. And again, this was the company to try to make money to pay people salaries. YouTube is a huge driver of revenue for virtually every media company in the country. Now. They would not air my show live because we were getting so many strikes that were disallowing us from being able to monetize this damages. It might be in the billions of dollars. That, quote, unquote, conservative. I would just say common sense YouTubers were dealing with for simply questioning whether we needed to be mandating shots, whether they made sense. They essentially took the Biden administration and did what the Biden administration would not be able to do, which is censor political speech.

[Buck Sexton]

They would do it again. Yes. The part of this that we all know, that's very frustrating. They're just backing off right now because they don't want the eye of Trump to focus in on them too closely in this moment while our team, so to speak, is in power. That's. So, you know, it's hard to feel good about this other than we were right. And, you know, I had. I had a, you know, small YouTube channel that got shut down, and. And it was the kind of thing where you get a strike or two, and then you don't want to deal with it anymore. And so you just stop. You know, it was. I was doing a radio show at the time, but I was trying to also just put stuff out clay on YouTube separately. And I just realized this is nonsense. I mean, I had a whole politifact story on me about masks and. And other things. You know, just trying to trash me and Facebook, by the way, the same thing shut down on Facebook. Anyway, I'm not. This isn't what was me. They did it. They did to a lot of people in our space. In fact, if they didn't do it to you, and you're a conservative, I would wonder, like, where were you during COVID and how are you in any way useful? But these. These companies, they're admitting it now, like I said, because we're of where the wind is blowing.

[Clay Travis]

They would.

[Buck Sexton]

We should not have any illusions they would do this again in a heartbeat. And there's. It's not a fair game. It's a rigged game on YouTube. It's a rigged game on Facebook and has been for years and rigged against people who are right of center. So that is very frustrating because these platforms, because they were dishonest about it and they got really big. I mean, this is something that. Else that I think everyone needs to understand. YouTube and Facebook, in the early days, they were, okay, we're going to allow different perspectives. And it was essentially like a free speech within the law, which is what it should always be. And people say, oh, but, you know, you shouldn't be able to just have copyrighted material or, oh, you shouldn't be able to have, you know, material that's illegal. That, of course, no one's. No one's saying that this is about. I don't like the content. I'm going to. And I'm going to block the audience from seeing it and artificially shut it down, which is what they did. And they did it for purely partisan purposes. They should be ashamed. They're not ashamed. I'll point this out to you. They don't care. They're just doing what's smart for them right now. But for a lot of us, man, this is. Well, this is a reminder of what we're up against and the kind of stuff that they were pulling. And everything we said that they were doing was True.

[Clay Travis]

This show. YouTube refused to allow us to post our Rand Paul interview because of his.

[Buck Sexton]

Senator and an md, a medical doctor, and a senator would not let us.

[Clay Travis]

Put it on the Internet running for reelection. When in theory, whatever you think about Rand Paul, you should want every single aspect of his political views to be as widely distributed as possible. They took down our interview with President Trump from Bedminster. YouTube.

[Buck Sexton]

Yep.

[Clay Travis]

Now, I want all of you to go subscribe to YouTube, Clay and Buck right now. But I guarantee you we are still minimized in distribution and algorithmic success because.

[Buck Sexton]

The problem, the ghost machine, linger for a long time afterwards. Once. Once you're in YouTube jail, you can basically never get out. That's the issue. Once they decide that you're not, you're on the naughty list, you don't get. Because it's all about the algorithmic showing of shows to people so you can get more subscribers and so that your own audience can see it. When they decide that they're going to limit your reach, you're done.

[Clay Travis]

They put you, they put you in jail. Here, by the way, is what the House Judiciary Committee and Jim Jordan put out. Just specifically so you know, the Biden administrator, Google, admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee. One, the Biden administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate YouTube's policies. Two, the Biden administration's censorship pressure was unacceptable and wrong. Three, public debate should never come at the expense of relying authorities. Four, the company will never use third party fact checkers and Europe censor. Five, Europe censorship laws targeting American companies and threatening American speech, including the removal of lawful content. And again, we'll talk with Jim Jordan about this tomorrow. But this is crazy. We talked about it on this program. Some of you will remember it. But sitting United States Senator Rand Paul interviewed on this program not allowed to be posted on YouTube. President Trump, when we sat down with him at Bedminster and interviewed him, they would not allow us to post that entire interview.

[Buck Sexton]

Can I just. The Rand Paul issue as well had to do with, with COVID and Foushee. Rand Paul is a practicing medical doctor.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

He is an actual MD and a US Senator. And they didn't let us post the interview on YouTube because it went against their, their communist guidelines. I mean, the absurdity, right? I mean, they went full Beijing on us with this stuff and just decided what could and couldn't be said. And, you know, it, it really, YouTube showed us who they are. I mean, I, I don't know. You know, look, I, I know I say that. I said, well, subscribe to our YouTube channel. We'll use all the tools at our disposal to get the message out as far as we can, as fast as we can, while we have them. So, and I make no apologies for that, to be clear. So, yeah, we want to build up a YouTube presence now while we can, as long as we can, because we believe in what we say and we think people need to hear it. But is there trust? Is there trust that has been built with these entities that can only be done over time? That can only happen if they allow us to build up the audience that we know we can have. But we have millions of radio listeners, Clay. We're, you know, We've been shadow banned on YouTube for a long time. Now they're telling us it's gone. Well, now let's see if it's gone.

[Clay Travis]

I would also point out now you will probably not hear a word from anybody who has been screaming about Jimmy Kimmel's free speech. Actually discussing Google, admitting that YouTube, which Google owns YouTube, that the Biden administration pressured Google, slash YouTube to restrict a lot of videos out there and cost conservative media companies hundreds of millions of dollars and maybe billions. And my concern is what you just laid out, Buck. Yeah, they're doing this when Trump is in office. Now, is that going to change whenever we have a Democrat back in the White House? Probably. And this is where this matters. The Supreme Court whiffed on this one. The Supreme Court had this case and it was, I think, one of the most important First Amendment cases that they have had in my life. The Biden administration on Facebook, on YouTube, all over the Internet, these social media companies, they restricted speech by a third party. If you can deputize something that the government cannot do, the government can't restrict urine mind speech. If the government does it through a third party, then they're just deputizing someone else to do what they could not do. That's exactly what happened during COVID And there was an opportunity.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, One of the worst Supreme Court decisions I think we have. Six, three. One of the worst Supreme Court decisions we have seen in a long time. And if you. I went back and read through the decision, Clay. You know, I scanned through it quickly. I don't have enough time to read the whole thing again, but I went through just to remind myself of it and it was a lot of. But can you really prove that Biden pushed them? And can you really prove there was a harm? And can you really tell me they won't do this again or they will do this again? It's like, well, nothing is certain, guys. But I think it's pretty clear what happened here. Yeah, they did these things.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, Jen Psaki threatened the companies from the White House press briefing and all of the emails illustrate what they were doing. The fact that this was not an opportunity, that the Supreme Court didn't take this opportunity to say stridently, this is unacceptable and we're not going to stand for it. I think it's a failure of this. This current Supreme Court. I think it's their biggest.

[Buck Sexton]

Amy, Coney, Barrett and Roberts let you down, Clay. That's not the first or the last time, unfortunately.

[Clay Travis]

Sadly. And this goes to. I don't think they understand the Internet that well. And I don't mean that as a huge insult. Most 70 something year old people and most 60 something year old people don't really understand how the Internet works. I think I understand pretty well how the Internet works. I don't understand admiralty law very well. It's hard to be an expert on everything they whiffed here though.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, well, they, it's, it is the public square now because it is so much faster and more powerful than printing out a pamphlet and handing it out to people in the town square. Online is the town square now. If you don't have free speech online, you don't have it meaningfully anywhere. And that's the pro. That's what I think they don't really grasp. You know, they still think like, well, Thomas Paine and his pamphlets. It's like Thomas Paine would be all over the Internet if he were around today. All right. It would be a very different world he'd be operating in. Look at steak night over at the Sextons. We got some New York strips, bone in. New York strip, I might add, which a lot of people believe adds a little extra flavor with that bone in. Courtesy of our friends at Good Ranchers. I love Good Ranchers night over here. We have a few of them every month because I get a box from Good Ranchers delivered delicious steaks. All American Ranchers, All American farms. Also chicken pork. They've got gluten free chicken nuggets for you if you want. They've got wagyu burgers. I love this company. I eat their stuff all the time. Carrie and I are eating it tonight. It's going to be absolutely delicious. And right now, Clay and I are both subscribers of Good Ranchers. Right now you can get a 25 bucks off plus get free shipping and a free gift in every order for life. That free gift can be bacon, chicken nuggets, wagyu burgers and you can swap the gift out month to month. You want to try something new. GoodRanchers.com is the website to go to. Use my name Buck as your promo code. You get a one time 40 discount plus a 25 discount ongoing in future months. We'll get you a great deal. You can reverse sear them, you can sous vide them, or you can throw them on that grill with the flame just dancing below however you want to cook them. But you need really good product to have really good steak night or really good chicken, really good pork. You got to have that great underlying product. I'm a big believer in this. I take my proteins very seriously. Goodranchers.com they get it done. Use that promo code. Buck get your subscription going today.

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

I'm ready.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

I think I did mispronounce that. Although I would argue that the way I pronounced it is more fun. I just think it like kind of has the, has a vibe that feels better, you know. You know what happened to me, Buck? Speaking of vocabulary, my fifth grader had a analogy section of his English homework. I, I'm not trying to brag. I'm a perfect score verbal guy on test scores. All right. I do really well. I couldn't get all of his analogies. I called in Laura, fairly smart as well. And I looked at him and I was like, this is the most difficult analogy section I have ever seen. Fifth grade. Fifth grade. And you're going to be in this situation at some point in time where you're looking at the homework, the math. Don't even get me started on the way they do math now. But I'm pretty good at analogies. I couldn't figure out any of these analogies and I wanted to screenshot it and post it and let everybody look at it. I don't even know what company is doing these. I don't know if it's AI. We got to be better at the homework that we're giving our fifth graders out there.

[Buck Sexton]

You just got to sneak a little grok, a little chat GPT.

[Clay Travis]

I don't even think that would work. I think that's where this camera from because it was analogies that would never ever be analogized in any way the likes of fifth grade. I mean this was tougher than the SAT and the lsat. We'll talk about some more of this when we come back.

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