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Welcome in second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. Big bombshell news story. First hour was over. Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York State who went after Trump so aggressively on inflating his assets and the whole case was a sham. She really tried to bankrupt Trump or at least cash starve him during the election. So she was trying to subvert the election process as well with that prosecution. And as Clay and I have discussed, it was, sorry if I sound out of breath, I just ran down to check on the baby for a second and had to take a flight of stairs in one leap here. But the Letitia James prosecution of Trump on the civil case was clearly a political hit. And now we find out that there are allegations that are looking pretty solid that she herself is a mortgage fraudster. And I would just point out that our team, I asked them, and of course our team is the best in the business. They got a whole bunch of these right away. Clay, press release after press release, New York, the feds 66 months for mortgage fraud, 30 months for mortgage fraud. You know, ringleader sentenced in $7 million mortgage fraud conspiracy, $7 million mortgage fraud. You're talking about houses. It's not that, that's not that big of a, you know, that's not that many houses, especially if you're talking about New York, it's maybe a couple of houses. So I mean, I'm sure it was more than that, but you get what I'm saying. So people go to prison for this. They really do. And people like Leticia, I bet Letitia James presided over people going to prison for this. So I take a guarantee.
Clay Travis
She has threatened tons of people over this exact thing that she did with crime.
Caller
I have no, no sympathy or sentencing mercy in my mind at all. For somebody who sends other people to prison for conduct that they themselves do. They're you have this is to me, it's like you have to take the hardest line on that if you're going to be somebody that's you wielding that power when you yourself are engaged in the. Because it undermines so much faith that anybody could have in the system. I mean prosecutors, could you imagine? I mean, what if a prosecutor says, sorry, you're going to prison for 20 years for fentanyl, but I'm gonna take some of that fentanyl we seized and sell it myself on the street, cuz you can make Great money on that. Shouldn't that person go away for a long time? Of course. Right. So we all understand the concept. Clay. Now I need you to dive into this other legal issue here. All right, Lawyer Clay, put the hat on. Here we go. Federal Judge James Boasberg finds probable cause to hold Trump in contempt over deportation flights. There's. So there's so much here to dive in. First of all, the left has decided that this guy who got sent to El Salvador. Yeah, this guy who got sent to El Salvador. This is like their new. This is their new cause. Right. That this individual. And Clay, just to put this in context, everybody agrees, meaning the facts are he's illegal and subject to deportation.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Caller
But what they're saying is this time the way he was deported skipped a step. So they are demanding that Trump bring him back to put him through that step before he's deported. Even though everyone agrees he's deportable, there is no argument about whether he will end up being deported. This Judge Boasberg guy is a lunatic. What are you. He's going to hold Trump in contempt. What, he thinks he's going to lock up the sitting president? What is this lunatic doing?
Clay Travis
So this is going to get complicated legally. Let me also add in about this individual from Maryland who was sent to El Salvador. This morning I saw Bill Melugian sharing a story that this individual in 2021 had a protective order brought against him by the mother of his children. So she is now saying he's the greatest father who's ever lived. Oh, my goodness. What's going on here? But in 2021, she went to the courts because she said that he was being abusive. So I just bring that up for you have a sitting senator who has basically ignored any crimes that have been committed by illegals in the United States, meaning he hasn't ever met with Lake and Riley's family or I think the Morin family. This mom of five who was killed by an illegal in Maryland. In fact, he's refused to meet with them, but he's going to get on a plane and fly to El Salvador for an accused wife beater, gang leader who's allegedly, who is in the country, we know illegally and that's who he's gonna make the, the, the, the, the guy to fight for.
Caller
Very strange.
Clay Travis
Okay, now let's go to. And I think it's going to blow up in their face in a negative way. But this is the new, new crisis, right? We had egg prices, we had the stock market, we had the signal group Chat, you can kind of just run through all the things that they've tried to latch on to, to argue this is some sort of existential crisis for the country and they've all kind of faded. Okay, so this case in particular.
Caller
Yeah.
Clay Travis
I don't even know how you would hold the sitting president and his administration in contempt. First of all, usually when you are held in contempt, there is, and other lawyers out there can, can weigh in. Maybe some of you have been held in contempt of court before. I, I have not. Usually there is either a penalty where you can be occasionally put in jail.
Caller
Right.
Clay Travis
Like you are so contemptuous, the judge decides, hey, I've got to haul you out of the courtroom. You've got to be held in a prison cell for some period of time, or there's some sort of financial penalty or there's some sort of threat about your law license and what might impact there. I don't understand how any of that can apply when the President of the United States and his administration are arguing that they have the legal authority to do this. So this is a dispute over authority. Does a federal district court judge have the authority to force the President and his administration to do anything? In this particular situation, there will be an appeal. The appeal will then go to the DC Circuit. Right. Larger court here they will probably go.
Caller
Bozberg, because of the makeup of the.
Clay Travis
DC Circuit, usually you get a small part of the DC Circuit and then if you wanted to, you could appeal to the full D.C. circuit. Usually they skip that. Yes, usually they skip that. There's a three seat judge review, appellate. Usually they skip the en banc, as buck is, is lawyerly using that phrase. And they go and go ahead and appeal to the Supreme Court. And remember, the Supreme Court has said basically nothing.
Caller
Right.
Clay Travis
I mean, they're trying to avoid having to issue a ruling on this because ultimately this is about presidential powers. And I just, it, I knew it was coming. I thought they would have a better face of the Trump deportation battles than an alleged gangbanger who had a protective order taken out against him that everybody acknowledges is illegally in the country. I don't find this guy to be a particularly persuasive front facing example of Trump overreach personally. But that's where we are.
Caller
And the Democrats are just once again lining up, regardless of the procedural back and forth over this, you know, the sort of legal machinations going on here. They're lining up behind someone for whom it is very difficult to garner public sympathy. And so there's a, there's a political component to all of this, Clay, Right. There's a political component where I think that they still don't get how angry everybody is about the vindictive and wide open border that Biden had for us. And they can't make us care about some deported MS.13 gang banger. They just, they can't. They really are trying hard to make this about, oh my gosh, you know, we have lost, we have lost the republic if this guy isn't returned so that he can be expelled again. Right. That's the part of this that it's like they want to do over. You know, if you were at. Imagine like you're at a, like a venue, a stadium and you go and you walk through a restricted area to get to your seat and they come up to you and they go, no, no, we're going to make you get back up and walk through the non restricted area to get to your seat. You're like, well, but I mean, this is my seat and I'm here, so what are we doing? That's kind of the legal equivalent of what they're demanding here. There's not going to be a different result. But they want to create an additional procedural hurdle. Which brings me to another part of it. On the one hand, like I said, we saw the border betrayal. We saw the violations, the serial violations of our sovereignty by these democrats and by this system. And what we've learned is that they just don't want to deport anybody. And that these judges who are weighing in on this stuff, they actually don't want. If you can't be okay with this ms.13 guy being deported or the trenda Aragua guys being deported, you don't want anybody deported. Which means any evildoer from anywhere in the world who happens to sneak into America has to be our problem forever. And you know what? A solid majority of the American people, the American people who are capable of looking at reality, applying common sense and seeing things for what they are, which I think is really like 65, 70% of us, I really do. I think that's what this, you know, the other 30% or so, I'm sorry, they're nuts. What can you do? But you know, the CNN has seeped too far into their brains. But Clay, they just want these people gone. They just want these non Americans gone. And you know, that's it. At the end of the day, they're not going to be made to weep over whether the guy, you know, who was joining up with ms.13 who wasn't supposed to be here in the first place. Got every box check before he got sent packing.
Clay Travis
The report. Let me get this cuz I do think it's significant. Is from Andy Ngo and he has posted the actual court documents according to him and I'll share this tweet. On May 5, 2021, the either girlfriend or wife that is now claiming that he's being treated unfairly filed a domestic violence complaint against him, seeking protections from Maryland because theoretically her husband or boyfriend was behaving in a way that threatened her. And so she now says he was a phenomenal husband. I would just submit to you, sometimes there are disputes. Most phenomenal husbands don't have court cases alleging domestic violence filed against them by their wives or their girlfriends.
Caller
There you go.
Clay Travis
So this is the guy that the sitting, one of the sitting senators from Maryland felt compelled to get on a flight to El Salvador to in some way try to defend. And again, this is a guy who has been adjudicated to be a member of a gang, to have been here illegally and to have had a domestic violence complaint now brought against him. I'm sharing, retweeting that story right now. And you would think if we had an honest media that they might actually ask that Maryland senator, hey, you know, the guy has a domestic violence case brought against him in addition to being a gang member and also being here illegally. This is who you want to make the front facing, you know, opposition, resistance to the Trump deportation orders. I think they could have picked a better guy. Personally, I think this is going to blow up in their face.
Caller
Yeah, this is where you talk in politics about the optics. And they mobilize far more for an illegal gang member than the Democrats have ever mobilized for. Anyone murdered by an illegal gang member, raped by an illegal gang member. I mean, you know, you go down this list, what upsets Democrats more, Just ask yourself this question. The Lake and Riley horrific crime committed or this no frame on the New York Times. What are they? What is the New York Times more concerned with? Lake and Riley or this guy? And I think, and you could just do a straightforward study of it. Look at where, look at where there's more front page coverage. Look at where there's more focus from Democrats. You all know the answer to this. And I'm sorry, but we don't have to pretend that we don't recognize this for what it is. We'll also open it up to calls from you on this and get more into it here momentarily. We've watched the tariffs throw a little bit of chop into the markets, you could say, but it's settling down right now. Could get a little uncertain in the future. Here's the thing, we take the long term view here and we want you to protect yourself and the hard earned dollars that you have in savings. And this is where gold and silver, by the way, come into play. You know, there's actually a silver lining, if you will, that a lot of people have missed in the most recent tariff conversations. Gold and silver bullion are excluded from the tariffs. The administration preserved your ability to diversify into precious metals, so I think you should exercise that option. If you are concerned about the value of your savings, I encourage you to have a free consultation with Birch Gold Precious Metals right now. They're good people. I've used them for my most recent gold purchase. I've got gold coins, gold bars, and that's great for a lot of you. I'd recommend you check that out and speak to a Birch Gold specialist about it. There's also the Transitioning an existing IRA or 401k into a gold IRA for no money out of pocket. If any of you have, you know, you might have an old, old company, old IRA or 401k, you know that has money in it that's not going to change your life. But you know it's thousands of dollars, maybe tens of thousands of dollars and you just go, you know what? Maybe it's time to transition that into gold. A plus rating from the Better Business Bureau. Birch Gold can help you make that transition of your IRA or 401k into a gold IRA for no money out of pocket. So easy to do. Text my name buck to the number 9898. 98. That's B U C K. Text buck to 98. 98 98. Today you don't know what you don't know, right?
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show one of the things Buck, we have talked about that I was very confident of was basically 100% right, that nobody who voted for Trump regretted their vote. We're coming up on, what is it, six months, I guess since the election. And CNN had their data analyst Harry Enton, they dove into a recent study asking, hey, do you regret your vote in 2024? Because it's been a talking point on CNN. And every now and then you'll see something go viral where someone says, oh, I talked to a Trump supporter and he or she, boy, they really regret the decision they made. Actually, that's not true at all based on the data. Here was CNN breaking it down.
Caller
I hear all these stories, all these articles, all the Trump voters, they regret what they did back in 2024. I'm here to tell you very few of them regret what they did back in 2024. We got a new poll out. The poll was conducted this month. What percentage would change their vote to a different candidate? We're talking just 2%. Just 2%. That's not even a wide spot on the road. And then there's this additional 1% who say they would rather not vote. We're talking overall under 5% might or would have changed their vote. Donald Trump voters back in 2024. In February of 2017, 4%, 4% of Trump voters say they'd shift their vote. That's actually slightly more than the 3% this time around.
Clay Travis
Does it surprise you at all, Buck? Doesn't surprise me. The Trump people, that's you, me, that's a lot of the people out there listening right now. We voted for this. If anything, we'd like to be able to go vote for him again.
Caller
I think that you would have even had, not that you would have had a lot of Trump regret in April of 2017, but I think that this administration has delivered sooner in a more tangible way than even the first administration. So whatever low level of Trump regret there was for the first time Trump voter at this stage. And I think it might have been, maybe it's indistinguishable, Maybe it's also 1 or 2% this time around, there's even less basis for it. So I'm not, I'm not surprised at all. I do not know a single person that I credibly believe voted for Donald Trump. I have not met or come across one who goes now, oh no, what is, you know, I didn't, I didn't vote for that. I don't know a single one. So I'm just speaking, that's anecdotal, I get it. But I mean, not one person. I mean, do you know anybody who's been like, you know, Clay, I was with you on this whole Trump voting thing, but now, no. In fact, if anything, I know people who are like, I wish I could vote for him again.
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Right, welcome back into Clay and Buck here we're talking about Kilmar Abrego, Garcia's deportation because the Democrats, and I mean from the media to the Democrat senators to everybody in between, they are making this their big issue. It was the stock market. It was the price of eggs. It was what else has it been? I'm trying to think what else have they freaked out? It was fascism which has not descended upon America. And in fact, Clay had us in the studio in New York rather had a note set up that they predicted. Who was it that made the prediction six months ago that we would be in the grip of fascism today. And remember, we got to figure that out because you said remind me in six months where we are and we'll go back and we got to find out what the soundbite was or who was saying America will descend into fascism within six months because yeah, here we are, six months. What a shock. No, fascism turns out. And you know, we. Did you discuss the, the Bill Maher, the Bill Maher summit with Trump?
Clay Travis
Yeah, we played, we played those cuts on Monday. But you should react because you're the one who's actually been guest on that program. And I do think it's a sign of positivity.
Caller
It's like an out of body experience when I'm off the show, but I'm listening to the show, then I'm like, wait, did we talk about this? And I'm like, well, you did, but I was just listening. So I can't remember what was said or what I said rather. I'm like. Because I didn't say anything. Yeah, I think that, you know, Bill actually thought I was monologue and it was very clever and in earnest. So that was the sense that I had. But yeah, no, Trump is not Hitler and that's insane. And I think we've, I think we have exited the Trump is Hitler phase of the Democrat opposition. I really do not because they're above it. It's just, it's just not going to work. It's just not going to work. Right. At some point it turns into the same way it was, oh, Trump grabs women all the time. No, he's got a lot of, you know, a lot of women who work for him. Who will attest to what a great boss he is, what a great dad, what a great grandpa. You know, he's not grabbing women all the time. He's not sexually assaulting anybody. Anyway, they've tried all these different things, but now they've decided that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is the big issue of the moment. And here is Democrat Senator van Hollen. This is 19, who is. Clay mentioned this. He is flying down to El Salvador to check on this individual. Play it.
Clay Travis
I'm here at the airport. I'm about to board my flight for San Salvador. The goal of this mission is to let the Trump administration to let the government of El Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting to bring Aldrigo Garcia home until he returns to his family. I hope to meet with representatives of the government.
Caller
I hope to have the chance to.
Clay Travis
Actually see Kilmar and see what his condition is. But we are going to keep fighting.
Caller
Because this is a miscarriage of justice. The Supreme Court has ruled 9 to.
Clay Travis
0, 9 to 0 that he was.
Caller
Illegally taken out of the country and.
Clay Travis
Put in a prison in El Salvador.
Buck Sexton
And this is about due process.
Clay Travis
This is about rule of law. This is not true. So many different levels here.
Caller
I mean, is he conducting his own foreign policy? Whatever happened to the Logan Act? Remember that one? Remember when the Logan act was a big thing we all had to. All had to freak out about? I mean, he's. Is he the executive branch? What's he doing going solo into a foreign country making these with a non US Citizen? This guy's not an American.
Clay Travis
I get it.
Caller
So we have a US Senator flying to a foreign country to oversee a non American, a foreigner, to try to bring him back into the United States. On what authority would he be brought back into the United States? Whose authority? That would be illegal. Can the President just even unilaterally say, hey, we're going to bring this illegal into the country? The president would be violating. The president can't just say, bring this person into America because I say so. On what authority, Clay, would he even be returned?
Clay Travis
One question that I would have, and maybe the team can look it up. First of all, there is no authority to return him. So that is the answer, which is a good question. But has this guy traveled to Israel and demanded the return of the American actual citizens that have been held by Hamas? I mean, look, senators do a lot of things, right? So the job has a lot of importance, primarily because it can be used to shine a light on issues of which you care. We talked about this with, we gave credit to John Fetterman when he helped to get those guys. What was the country, Trinidad and Tobago or wherever where the guy got arrested for having just bullets basically in his carry on and they weren't allowing him back.
Caller
No, it was the other beach island, I'm trying to remember.
Clay Travis
But yes, yeah, but in the Caribbean, Turks and Caicos. And we said, hey, you know what, like as senators go fighting for the return of your citizens in Pennsylvania who are American citizens that otherwise might be put in prison for 10 years, I think that's what he was facing. And he wasn't being released. That's something that I would support. But we have had quite a few Americans being held hostage by Hamas for over 500 days now, I believe is the math coming up on two years. And I don't remember him being outspoken about that. I don't remember him going on the road and breaking all this down. Right. Like, I mean, so the spotlight is a big part of being senator. Right. And he's choosing his on someone who's.
Caller
Not a citizen in the same way. You know this they'll try to muddy the waters on this. But the same way that we discuss how the biggest decision, the biggest editorial decision that is made by any news or commentary, individual or entity is what to cover. Same thing really applies to politicians as in what to care about. Like what are you focused on now? You could say, oh, you know, walk and chew gum at the same time. And as you pointed out, Clay, senators do a lot of things. But yeah, but when you start to line up things that look pretty similar in terms of, you know, what kind of action a senator could take or could not take or what they've spent time and focus on. As you pointed out, they have seemed much more concerned about Mr. Abrego Garcia, who's a not. No one thinks this guy's an American. I just want to be very clear. There is no basis whatsoever. This is a foreigner. Ok?
Clay Travis
Correct.
Caller
They are more concerned about a foreigner who has been sent back to his actual country than dual U.S. citizens who were captured by Hamas in Israel and held in horrific conditions under threat of their lives the whole time. I think that's an apt comparison to show where is the focus and what actually outrages them.
Clay Travis
Yes. And I also think that this is very consequential in that who you choose to be your front facing outlier, your anecdote to attack a policy matters. And I'm going to put my history nerd hat on here for you, Buck. You know in the 1950s, bus boycotts, Rosa Parks was not the first woman to refuse to give up her seat. Right. There was actually a single mother who had done the same thing, but they decided she wasn't the right person to draw the best attention to because she was a young single mother. This is if you study the civil rights movement. The leaders of the civil rights movement said, no, no, no, no. We don't want her to be the focal point because she's not the right person. They waited for Rosa Parks, and then they used her as the focal point to attack the bus boycott in Montgomery. Different situations entirely, but strategically, this is what this guy has. He is a gang member, at least in the past. Maybe he renounced his gang membership. I don't know how you would do that. He is here illegally, and in 2021, his wife or girlfriend took out a domestic violence order against him. Is this someone. Just be honest that the average American is sitting around saying, hey, you know, this is what I want, my Senator. There's only 47 of them in the United States Senate for the Democrat Party. Is that what you want? The limited hours of your senator's work to be focused on. Is he representing Maryland? Well, by making this trip, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent, I wouldn't argue that the governor of Maryland's not down there.
Caller
Well, and I would say how many Democrat senators from any state where a resident was captured by the FBI and held, in many cases, as we know, in solitary confinement? Keep that in mind. It's not just that solitary confinement keeps you alone. It's that you have extreme restrictions on time, on contact with the outside world, on what, you know, toiletries. You're allowed to have no time in the commissary. I mean, it's a punishment. Okay? People were held. J. Six nonviolent prisoners were held in punishment conditions like they were a threat to shiv a fellow inmate when they had never done anything in their lives and they never actually hurt anybody. They trespassed, okay? They obstructed a government proceeding, and they were held in solitary. How many Democrats went to see if they were. If their due process rights were respected? How many times did they get visits Clay, from the ACLU about whether. Whether everything was. Was by the book. You know, I'm sorry. We've seen too much from these Democrats, and it is time to put on the brass knuckles with this stuff. I'm sorry. I have. No, I don't. They can try to pull on the heartstrings. They're gonna just Keep pulling and get no. No result. Americans with common sense see this for what it is. Somehow, Clay, our laws couldn't prevent. I don't know. What do you think? 12 million. Ish.
Clay Travis
10.
Caller
12 million illegals at least, right? 10 to 12 million illegals from coming into the country despite the fact the law says they're not allowed to. And also now we're being told that the law can't expel people once they've come in illegally. How can that be something that we accept? You can come in illegally, violate our laws. Nothing we can do. Oh, and by the way, if we want you to leave, there's also nothing that can be done because judges will say you can't be sent home. What?
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Caller
I mean, it's madness. And people are. We're just sort of fed up with this. I know we're supposed to get. Oh, but the process, the process, the process. The judges are operating in bad faith. The judges are declaring things like, oh, we need to put a hold on his deportation because he's a gang member who fears violence from other gang members. Too freaking bad. Go home.
Clay Travis
I would also point out, and I think this is significant, and I would expect this is going to be the next step. They are going to. I think as more of this guy's background comes out, the restraining order and the domestic violence being brought out is going to be tough because that doesn't. Again, I'm not saying that sometimes some people don't get dragged in and haven't done anything wrong at all. Right. That does happen. But combining the guy's a gang member, the guy has a domestic violence investigation brought against him in the state of Maryland. The guy was here illegally. That's three strikes. Maybe, maybe one or two of those. You're like, hey, I could. And so I think what you're going to see, Buck, is there's going to be a pivot, especially if this domestic violence complaint comes out and there was any violence at all that she alleged. Because unfortunately, what often happens in domestic violence complaints is if the couple stay together, the woman will say, oh, none of that ever happened. And they try to just sweep it under the rug because they want to stay together. They've got a kid. Like, this is the reality. Anybody who's worked in family law knows this. This is why oftentimes prosecutions, they won't have the testimony from the woman herself. It's a huge mess. Anybody who's worked in these cases knows exactly what I'm talking about. But I think Buck, where it's Going to go from here is they're going to say, well, it's not about him. It's about Trump being an authoritarian and refusing to listen to the course and follow their rules. That's the pivot that's coming. I think that's where we're headed. But I want to tell you, hey, Buck. I was down two weeks ago at Buck's house and we had good rancher steaks. Carrie cooked them for us. Nine months pregnant, amazing meal. And they're fabulous. They are really, really good. We had them. My boys love steak, chicken. My youngest, chicken nuggets. They are fabulous. We eat this food at our house. It's safe, it's healthy, it's delivered right to your door. And it's American produced. No antibiotics, no added hormones. If you want to skip this trip to the grocery store, save a bundle and get fabulous food at your house, you can get hooked up right now, whether it's bacon, whether it's steak, whether it's chicken nuggets, salmon. Right now you get 40 bucks off. All you have to do is go to goodranchers.com use my name Clay. We eat this in the Travis household. This is American ranchers. American meat delivered right to your house. You can go in, you can just click, whatever your kids like, whatever your household likes, you know better than anybody, get it sent right to your house. Boom. You put it in the freezer, you put it in the refrigerator. Whenever you want to get ready to eat, you are Good to go. Goodranchers.com My name Clay. For $40 off. Salmon, chicken nuggets, steak, bacon, whatever type of meat you like, you have an option to get it. They even have some that are already set up. The burger box. If you just want to get burgers, the cowboy mix of meats, surf and turf, obviously, your meats and your seafoods. Maybe the tailgate box. If you're having buddies over to watch a game, get hooked up right now. Goodranchers.com Code Clay I love them. You'll love them, too. Goodranchers.com code clay for 40 bucks off news and politics, but also a little comic relief, Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Caller
It does, Clay. But I have to be honest. My wife is super wife and she has. She's. I get to like snuggle the baby, you know, play with.
Clay Travis
You get all the benefits and none of the super challenging aspects of being.
Caller
She is making sure that at least during the week my sleep is entirely undisturbed. So far she's. She's totally rock starring the whole thing. I mean, I. So I cannot pretend like I know a lot of people. Like, oh, you're going to lose all this sleep. I told her the weekends were in this 100% together. But during the week when I'm doing the show, she has taken the baby on her shoulders, literally and figuratively. She's doing an amazing job. So I'm. I'm in pretty good shape that. But I'm still drinking three cups of Crockett a day. So there's that.
Clay Travis
Well, there's a lot of people out there that are on the two, three, sometimes four cups, sometimes more.
Caller
What are you?
Clay Travis
What are you?
Caller
You're a two, two Crockets a day guy. What are you.
Clay Travis
I try to do two cups of coffee a day. I try to. I now I cut out soda. And for. If you're looking for something that's healthier, this is something my wife was on me for years and years. Occasionally I get a soda Mountain Dew, which I love out to dinner. But by and large, I am a straight coffee or water person now. And I do think it's a lot healthier. Way less calories.
Caller
I will tell you guys something. I will. I will confess something here. I actually will. Now, as I said, three, two or three is my Crockett consumption a day. But I will mix in clay, a little chocolate protein powder sometimes and maybe a little creatine for a little oomph in my Crockett, which is delicious. It's like a coffee smoothie. Yeah, it really good. So I'm just throwing out ideas.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Hour 2 - "This is their guy, really?"
Release Date: April 16, 2025
In the second hour of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into a heated discussion surrounding recent political maneuvers, legal battles, and immigration policies, all viewed through a decidedly pro-Trump lens. The conversation is marked by sharp critiques of Democratic figures and policies, emphasizing themes of legal overreach, immigration enforcement, and unwavering support for former President Donald Trump.
The hour kicks off with a focus on New York Attorney General Letitia James and her legal actions against Donald Trump. The discussion centers on claims that James pursued a "sham" prosecution aimed at bankrupting Trump by inflating his assets.
Caller:
"The Letitia James prosecution of Trump on the civil case was clearly a political hit." [02:37]
Clay Travis echoes this sentiment, asserting that James' actions were not just legally questionable but also politically motivated.
Clay Travis:
"She has threatened tons of people over this exact thing that she did with crime." [04:20]
The hosts highlight allegations against James herself, pointing to press releases about her sentencing in mortgage fraud cases, suggesting hypocrisy in her aggressive stance against Trump.
The conversation shifts to Federal Judge James Boasberg's recent actions concerning deportation flights. The caller criticizes Boasberg for attempting to hold Trump in contempt over deportation procedures, labeling the judge as "a lunatic."
Caller:
"Judge Boasberg, because of the makeup of the DC Circuit, [...] they're going to appeal to the Supreme Court." [09:03]
Clay Travis discusses the potential legal battles arising from this conflict, questioning the authority of a federal judge to challenge a sitting president's immigration policies.
Clay Travis:
"There is no authority to return him. So that is the answer, which is a good question." [29:34]
The hosts argue that the judicial attempts to impede deportations are part of a broader Democratic strategy to undermine immigration enforcement, portraying it as a failure to uphold the rule of law.
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a figure described as an MS-13 gang member illegally residing in the United States. The hosts criticize Democratic Senator Van Hollen for prioritizing Garcia's case over more pressing issues, such as the deaths caused by illegal immigrants.
Caller:
"They're making this their big issue [...] it's very difficult to garner public sympathy." [25:38]
Clay Travis underscores the perceived double standard in Democratic priorities, emphasizing that Garcia's case lacks the public sympathy afforded to victims of violent crimes committed by undocumented immigrants.
Clay Travis:
"This is someone who's a gang member, at least in the past. Maybe he renounced his gang membership. I don't know how you would do that." [34:21]
The hosts argue that focusing on Garcia diverts attention from more critical immigration issues and undermines the efficiency of deportation processes.
Transitioning from immigration to political loyalty, Travis and Sexton discuss the unwavering support Trump voters maintain for the former president. Citing a CNN analysis, they assert that minimal Trump voters regret their 2024 vote, debunking narratives of growing disenchantment.
Caller:
"We’re talking just 2%. Just 2%." [22:36]
Clay Travis:
"If anything, we'd like to be able to go vote for him again." [23:20]
The hosts emphasize that the majority of Trump supporters remain steadfast, with only a negligible percentage expressing regret over their electoral choices. This segment reinforces their portrayal of Trump's enduring influence within his voter base.
The discussion further explores the strategic choices Democrats make in selecting political figures to highlight as evidence of their policies' failures. By focusing on individuals like Garcia, whom the hosts deem unrepresentative and lacking public sympathy, Democrats attempt to manufacture controversies that bolster their political agenda.
Clay Travis:
"This is going to blow up in their face in a negative way." [07:35]
The hosts draw parallels to historical civil rights movements, suggesting that Democrats' selection of Garcia mirrors flawed strategic choices that ultimately backfire, undermining their credibility.
Throughout the hour, Travis and Sexton critique a range of Democratic policies, particularly focusing on immigration enforcement and judicial overreach. They argue that Democrats are systematically undermining the rule of law by protecting illegal immigrants and obstructing effective deportation processes.
Caller:
"12 million illegals at least, right? 10 to 12 million illegals were coming into the country despite the fact the law says they're not allowed to." [35:52]
Clay Travis:
"Anybody who's worked in these cases knows exactly what I'm talking about." [36:21]
The hosts maintain that Democratic resistance to deportations not only fails to respect legal boundaries but also endangers American communities by allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the country indefinitely.
In the latter part of the discussion, the hosts defend the Trump administration's immigration policies against accusations of authoritarianism. They argue that legal challenges and judicial actions against deportation orders are indicative of broader Democratic attempts to delegitimize Trump's approach to immigration.
Caller:
"The president can't just say, bring this person into America because I say so. On what authority?" [29:03]
Clay Travis:
"This is about due process. This is about rule of law. This is not true." [28:38]
The segment underscores the hosts' belief that Trump's immigration policies are being unfairly targeted and that judicial interventions are misguided attempts to disrupt established enforcement mechanisms.
Hour 2 of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" presents a fervent defense of Donald Trump's legal and political strategies while vehemently criticizing Democratic actions and policies. Through detailed discussions on high-profile legal cases, immigration enforcement, and voter loyalty, Travis and Sexton aim to reinforce their political stance and challenge opposing narratives. The episode is characterized by its assertive tone, strategic use of quotes, and a clear intent to advocate for stringent immigration policies and unwavering support for Trump's legacy.
Notable Quotes:
Caller:
"The Letitia James prosecution of Trump on the civil case was clearly a political hit." [02:37]
Clay Travis:
"She has threatened tons of people over this exact thing that she did with crime." [04:20]
Caller:
"We’re talking just 2%. Just 2%." [22:36]
Clay Travis:
"If anything, we'd like to be able to go vote for him again." [23:20]
Clay Travis:
"This is about due process. This is about rule of law. This is not true." [28:38]
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