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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Clay Travis Buck Sexton show, we are awaiting President Trump and Caroline Levitt on the one year anniversary of Trump 2.0. What has the first year accomplished? What do we think about that? Trump is now in the communication, the sales pitch aspect of his presidency as we move towards what will frankly be the last election that is in many ways a referendum directly on President Trump's leadership after from 2015, when he came down the escalator for the first time, to 2026, the Trump era of effectively 11 years. Now you can say 2028 will be potentially for the Republican candidate if it is JD Vance, if it is Marco Rubio, somewhat of a referendum of Trump himself, but he will not be on the ballot in any way in 2028. So the last real time that Trump is has a referendum on his leadership on his presidency will be the midterms. And so we are now into the sell the job that you have done stage of Trump 2.0. And I mentioned these stats, but I want to hit you with them right off the top here because I do think that the challenge is making everyone aware of the promises that he has delivered on. And I would say, number one, the most significant accomplishment of President Trump buck is the secure border. And it's so successful that nobody even talks about the border anymore. So for a decade we talked about, hey, we should build a wall. Hey, we should have a secure border. Biden opens the border, everybody comes across. Ten million plus people. Trump gets in. One month later, we have the most secure border in the history of the United States. The second thing that I would say is probably the most significant of his accomplishments so far is record high stock prices. And you could say, oh, that really only impacts rich people. That's not true. With 401ks, huge percentages of the American public, particular Republican voters, have exposure to the stock market in some form or fashion. So record high stock prices is super important. I would say the third most important thing he has done buck 4.3% GDP at the end of the third quarter, there is a very good chance that we are going to be at 5% plus for the fourth quarter and on into 2026. Inflation in the wake of tariffs did not skyrocket. In fact it has continued to come down. Four year lows going all the way back, I believe to March of 2021. 2.6% core inflation, record murder decline. No one is talking about it. One of the biggest murder declines we have ever seen in many different cities out there, particularly the cities that President Trump has surged federal support the most for I would say six most impressive thing, record fentanyl death Decline, that is overdoses, poisonings related to drugs have collapsed. Mortgage rates down 7% and mortgage rates down 1% from over 7%. And gas prices are at a four year low. Those are eight things that I think President Trump has accomplished and could sell. Now, there's also a lot of international affairs, the situation with Israel, Gaza. But I'm just focused right now on those eight things. America first, the America agenda, not even getting into Venezuela, not getting into the settlement, the peace process in Gaza, all those things are very consequential. But just in the United States, what is changing in your life? All eight of those things. I put up a poll question asking Buck, what grade would you give, would you give President Trump and 800-282-2882, you can give us a talk back on this. I'm hitting retweet on this right now. So if you want to go vote in the Twitter poll, what grade would you give Donald Trump's first year in office? 47% of you say A, 34% of you say B, 13% of you say C, and 6% of you say D or F. In terms of what the impact is, Buck, I would give him an A. I bet you would give him an A. But I'm curious to hear from people. I just laid out those eight different things that I think are all super consequential and important that are evidence of the success that he has had in year one.
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Buck Sexton
You know, I just also think there's such a difference in a lot of the conversation among Trump supporters first time around, one year in. And I mean for people who were as pro Trump as it gets, voted for him, love the guy, love what he's trying to do for the country. There was a lot of frustration over staff who's he got in place, are they on board?
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Clay Travis
Yeah, that's important.
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Buck Sexton
There was a lot of, oh, it's not his fault. The staff. You don't hear any of that now. Yes, it's just a totally different and this is just marking the progress, I'm saying marking the, the transformation of honestly the experience level that Trump as commander in chief as well as the people around him have had. We have very little now. Look, there's always going to be people who are, who don't like, you know, what, what happened at, you know, pick your department or they think that this could be different. But there isn't this, you know, hey, it's not Trump's fault, it's the fault of these people or that people that didn't do this Thing, we're not wasting any time with that because overall, the agenda is being implemented, is being pursued. You know, you have to give credit to the people that are the main implementors, whether it's at any of these different agencies, it's at State, it's at. Obviously, the funniest thing with Marco Rubio these days is all the memes about how he's got 15 different jobs and, you know, you have a lot of people around him who have stepped up. So the conversation is different and it's now just how do we keep it going instead of, okay, we got to have a big change in course here. Like, does anyone even remember what did Rex Tillerson do his first year as Secretary of State? Nobody knows. Didn't last long, didn't work, wasn't a good thing. Rubio, you see what he's been up to. And obviously he's a long, long standing Republican fixture now on this in the Senate and on Foreign Relations Committee, et cetera. But these are people who understand what the Trump mission is and are getting it done day in and day out. So I've got to say, it's, it's been a great first year. That doesn't mean there aren't, there's always going to be areas of improvement. There's always going to be some criticism that, that I think is necessary to help the team get better. But, man, it's just a world of difference. We're playing a lot of clay. We're playing so much defense back in. We, you know, the Trump voters playing so much defense back in 2017 into 2018 on the Russia collusion.
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Clay Travis
Crazy. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
It completely consumed the media news, the media cycle, day after day after day. All a lie. And yes, it's to Trump's credit that he battled through all of that and then all the other stuff they threw at him and got a second term. But it, it unfortunately was, was pretty successful in slowing down and sabotaging the agenda. Term, year one. Term one. A lot of Russia collusion garbage.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I think your point there on staff continuity is hugely important because, yes, there have been conflict, as there always is. People argue for what they believe in, people disagree with them, they go back and forth. Nobody's gotten forced out. No one in the entire first year. Did Trump say, you know what, I made a poor choice here. I'm going to accede to some of the, some of the smoke, some of the fire, some of the attention on these individual picks. Now, that doesn't mean that he's not going to have staff Turnover. He certainly is. As you move into year two, as you move into year three, people get burned out. That's natural no matter who the President is. But you remember this, they really went after Trump on his inability to have a consistent managerial core in the first Trump administration. And they were constantly shifting in and out of people. Man. With James Blair, with Stephen Miller, with Susie Wiles, the chief of staff corps has remained very, very consistent. And then you look at the entire Cabinet, everybody, it seems, is in pretty decent shape. As we move into year two now, again, people are going to decide this is too much work. I need a little bit more life work, life balance. That's natural in the White House because it is such an all encompassing job. But in terms of the media being able to browbeat Trump into making changes in his personnel, it hasn't happened. And I actually think if you look at Hegseth, J.D. vance, Marco Rubio and Trump in terms of those four supremely important positions, I'm not sure that we have actually been in a stronger position as a country than having all of those individuals involved right now. So I would give an A. You guys can weigh in. 800-282-2882. People are not always going to agree with everything the President did, but I saw the Wall Street Journal, I think it was came out 92% of Trump's voters support his presidency so far. So they've tried to sell this idea of, oh, Trump's base is leaving him. Oh, Trump, Trump voters are unhappy. I don't think that's remotely true.
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Buck Sexton
I'm going to tell you this, I had to gear up for this, you know, after the because again, we're marking the one year of Trump getting sworn in for the second time one year anniversary today. So the start of year two of term two is today. And I remember after the huge win and just the enormous relief thinking to myself and how we were going to have to deal with this if it came to it, which is this isn't term one. Like there's no learning on the job. There's no, oh, trust him, he'll get it right eventually. This time around, had to be prepared to say is not if he wasn't pursuing the agenda on something that was promised or if he was making, you know, personnel decisions that were really counterproductive. We were going to have to hold that to account and we will if that happens in the future. But I look at term one and I'm like year one rather. And they're getting it done. They truly are. And we're not mired in defending against the same media nonsense with Russia collusion. And then the prosecutions and all this other stuff they've thrown at Trump. You see what is cape, what Trump and his team are capable of doing without, like I said, all the artificial sabotage of the media and the Democrat Party weaponizing the deep state against him.
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Clay Travis
If I were going to point to one thing that was not handled well, it would be Pam Bondi and Epstein. Like if you gave me a magic wand and you said, you can go back and manage.
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Buck Sexton
And we said that.
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Clay Travis
I thought she was going to.
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Buck Sexton
I thought she was going to get fired. And I said it here. I thought they were going to tell her that, you know, enough's enough.
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Clay Travis
And even Susie Wild's chief of staff came out and said, yeah, we really screwed that up. The fact that she said the files were on her desk, the fact that they had those influencers walk in with the binders, I think that's the biggest unforced error of the first year.
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Buck Sexton
They still have to get those files out, by the way. We haven't forgotten. And you know that people say put more pressure on them. We can, but I don't run any of these agencies. Neither does Clay. There needs to be more, more release of, of that information out there. And I think that that is coming, but it is too slow. But there's that. And then there's these other things that we're talking about, the economy, the border, national security, not being involved in stupid wars. I mean, these are very, very big things that affect all of us. And I think that on those areas, those issues, it has been really strong. By the way, Scott Besant, who I think has been the. I think has been the out. I think, Clay, you could say that Scott Besant out kicked his coverage or has certainly outperformed expectations for what he'd be able to do. I think there's a lot. Look, I didn't know who he was before Trump made him Treasury Secretary. I don't think many people did. So here he is. I think he's done a very good job here. We got two big issues that he's tackling here. Let's talk first about the tariffs. Here he is saying that he, he doesn't think. Clay, they're going to strike down the president's signature economic policy. This is 16 hit it. I think it's very unlikely that the Supreme Court is going to strike down a president's signature economic policy. It didn't early on with the aca, also known as Obamacare they reinforced that recently. And the real problem here is President Trump has used that is EAPA for negotiating leverage for geopolitics in emergency situations. If we look back, the first IEPA tariffs were fentanyl tariffs. So on Mexico, on Canada, on China. And if fentanyl is not a national emergency, I don't know what was.
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Clay Travis
All right, I'm nervous about this one, Buck. I think the Supreme Court is going to strike down some elements of President Trump. And I appreciate the fact that Scott Besson is making that argument because that is his job and he should be advocating for the president's perspective. So I don't begrudge anybody advocating in that way. I think this is one where the president's going to get a pushback from the Supreme Court and they are going to have they're going to have a really complicated situation here. I we keep waiting for the official. I was following Shannon Bream this morning because I thought we might be getting the tariff Supreme Court case. My concern is that they're going to slap him back some on this. We'll see. But I think it could be a major pushback. We'll talk about that. By the way, White House supposed to start this press briefing any minute now, so we are certainly going to follow that and we will take some of your calls and some of your talkbacks as well. But I want to tell you, are you trying to preserve your family memories to ensure that they are digitized for everyone into the future? Are you the repository of your family's memories? Do you have a ton of pictures? Do you have the old VHS tapes? Do you have the 8 millimeter film reels? Do you have everything? Do you put on the slides and show the kids and say, hey, this was great Grandma. This was mom and dad when they were little kids. Do you have all those? Have you preserved them forever in digital files? If you haven't to good New Year's resolution? I went to Chattanooga, Tennessee, my mom's hometown, where Legacy Box is based on. I walked through their warehouse, through their factories where they do all this preservation. They do a remarkable job. And trust me on this, just get online and check them out. Legacybox.com Clay 55% off right now as we begin 2026. Well, legacybox.com Clay for 55% off, you're going to get hooked up. You're going to love it. You're going to be a tremendous fan of preserving your family memories. You don't want to worry about a fire. You don't want to worry about a flood you don't want to worry about just someone who is holding all these great memories, having them in their attic and forgetting where they were losing them. Share them with your family now give the gift of memory with legacy box legacybox.com clay for 55% off that's legacybox.com clay 55% off want to be in the know when you're on the go the Team 47 podcast Trump highlights from.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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Caller Faith
Good morning. How are you guys doing?
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Clay Travis
We are fantastic.
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Buck Sexton
Do you have your snowplow ready, Faith? Because Clay is telling me some crazy stuff about what's going to happen to you all this weekend.
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Caller Faith
I know it. I had to adjust my plans accordingly because eggs and butter, you know, rush is going to be on.
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Clay Travis
Oh, my wife said she was going to the grocery. She's a Michigander. But we're potentially going to get over 20 inches of snow in Nashville, which has never happened in the history of the city. So if that happens, we're done for.
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Buck Sexton
Laura's from Michigan, so she knows how to build an igloo. She's fine. She's fine.
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Caller Faith
Oh, my gosh. I didn't know you guys were in Nashville. The guy that answered the phone said he was in New York and I was like, oh, okay.
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Clay Travis
Because I'm in Nashville. We got it. You just live outside the city. So you're going to be dealing with the white death here soon. What verdict would you. I'm In Nashville, Bucks in Miami. The team is in New York City. So we're everywhere. What, what, what verdict would you give Trump?
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Caller Faith
I'm giving Trump an A plus plus plus. That man, despite everything they've thrown in his face, continues to do exactly what he said he's going to do. Now, I got a big problem with Pam Bondi, and I got a big problem with Susie Wise, and I actually got a problem with JD Events.
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Buck Sexton
Why JD I can guess probably why Pam and susie, but why J.D. faith.
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Caller Faith
He's the, the wolf they're talking about. He's involved with the Soros, he's involved with the Deep State, just like I think Pam Bondi is. And I think they're all in there trying to thwart Trump, just like what happened in his last, you know, term insiders that he thought he could trust.
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Buck Sexton
You know what, Faith? You're actually giving us a great reminder. Yeah. Faith is multitasking. Faith, we're gonna let you put the groceries away.
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Clay Travis
All right.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you for.
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Clay Travis
Good luck surviving the White Death. She didn't know. Buck over to biggest snowfall. When Jim Cantore is talking about you getting hit with a weather condition, it's not a good sign.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, even, even Minnesotans are going to be like, oh, Tennessee, that's a lot of snow. So we're gonna, we're gonna tell you, we're gonna have to have JD on here to talk to him soon. It's a reminder. We haven't had JD on in a while, so let's get, let's reach out to JD and get him in the mix here. Talk about a whole range of things. All right, look, we saw President Trump in Miami last night, the college football championships. President Trump is going to go down in history as a man full of incredible energy for his age. You know that's true. And the guy is a Dynamo. He works 16 to 18 hours a day. He is nonstop. How can you have Trump level energy? No matter where you are, what you're doing, Chalk is a great place to start. Chalk's Mill Vitality Stack, their best seller, is formulated to help restore testosterone levels in men at a time when men's T levels have fallen off a lot. Chalk's male Vitality stack includes an ingredient that's been proven to boost T levels as much as 20% in three months time. Chalk is a Texas based company. Their products are assembled here in the U.S. look, take on 2026 with a boost in your strength and clarity. Go to chalk choq.com Unlock Chalks New Year special for the month of January. Only when you use my name, Buck as your promo code. Get a free pack of $99 chocolate powder. Go to Chalk Choke you.com promo code Buck.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show We continue to wait the White House press conference President Trump addressing on the one year anniversary of his swearing in as we begin the second year of Trump. I saw this morning, I was reading Axios, Buck, and I know there are probably left wingers out there who just had tears running down their cheeks. We still have over a thousand days left of Trump 2.0. So this is, you know, we're 25% done, but we still have 75% of the of the fund still to come. It doesn't mean that people are not still behaving in a crazy fashion on the View. In fact, they may have gotten crazier. They had. I saw this this morning as I was getting ready for the show, Buck. They had Pam Greer on. Pam Grier was a star, Foxy Brown of the so called like sort of black ploitation movies of the 60s and 70s. She was born in 1949. She was on the View talking with Sunny Hostin. This is crazy. Listen to her say that when she was growing up in Columbus, Ohio, lynchings were so common for her that her mom had to tell her not to look at the dead black bodies that had been lynched by white people. This is on the View earlier today. Listen.
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Caller Faith
The military wouldn't allow black families to live on the base. So you had to live in an apartment. And you couldn't take a bus, you couldn't afford a car. You walked, your dads walked to the base. And sometimes we would go from, you know, tree shade to shade to get back to the apartment. My brother and I, my mom with bags and my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look. And she'd pull us away because there is someone hanging from a tree and they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left. And it triggers me today.
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Clay Travis
Okay, Buck. According to End Wokeness, great Twitter account to follow out there, the last lynching in Ohio happened in 1911. Pam Greer was born in 1949. So she went on the View. No one pushed back and said that's a totally untrue story. But that lynchings were so common, she said in Columbus, Ohio that she had to not look at the trees as she walked back to her home. I mean, what do you think here? Like how has she convinced herself that this was true. How does Sunny Hostin not push back? I mean, this is scary. Honestly.
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Buck Sexton
They. Everyone on the left will recognize that victim status is something that is very desirable. Because when you're a victim and you tell a victim narrative about yourself and all of the things in your life that haven't gone the way that you want them to are somebody else's fault, and you also have a claim about how it is their fault, therefore they should do more for you, or it is their fault, therefore something else should be made to happen for you. And because the left is so. In my opinion, the left is so. I guess everything I say here is my opinion, but you know what I mean, Deeply enmeshed in this ideology, like this faith of victimhood that they have. They don't even recognize absurd exaggeration. Like they're just like, oh, well, that's her. That's her story of victimhood. So like, I have to respect that. You know what? That's her lived experience. Even though that wasn't her lived experience. But, you know, the mentality is, however you're going to describe your oppression narrative must be accepted by others because oppression narratives are so important to people who are of the leftist mindset. And I actually believe it's like structurally in the, in the working of the mind, left and right. Political sense is. I think it's much more in the brain than it is than a lot of people think about or a lot of people will get into. Because I just can't imagine approaching the world the way so many of these people do. Whether it's the maniac screaming at ICE officers in the streets or this kind of washed up actress saying that she saw, you know, lynchings in the trees by her home. I mean, they're just all used to making stuff up to first the purposes of self pity Clay, that I don't think any of them want to call anyone else out because this is so common. Does that make sense? Yeah, this is like this, this is like in the 90s it was like, oh, look, I've experienced so much racism. You'd hear this from people, particularly people from communities of color, not all of them leftists. I'm talking about people that would make these kinds of claims and you'd be like, what racism you experienced? Like, well, there was a detective that followed me once in a store. You know, we'd always hear this, yeah. And he'd be like, well, but were you actually followed? And then how do you know he was a detective? And I'd be like, you know, I'VE actually been like, had people look at me before when I was younger and thought that I might be like, are you sure it was because of your skin color? Are you sure that. The point is everyone's allowed to play this game on the left, so no one's going to call this out, no matter how absurd it is. Because in this case, by the way, honestly, what do you think Sunny Hostin even has any idea of when the last lynching was in this country or.
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Clay Travis
Even how few there were relative to the overall population? Right. In other words, if you go back and you study that entire era, which was awful and did exist. Right. But this idea that it was so common that people alive today would have any recollection of it at all, you would have to be 100 years old, basically, to have any true recollection of an incident like that. And Pam Grier is nowhere near that age. Again, the last lynching in Ohio happened 38 years before she was born. Two generations.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, Clay, if you really want to get people fired up, talk about how most lynchings didn't involve black people at all. Well, if that is historical fact, I just want to be very clear. Most lynchings in this country were not of black Americans. That is a fact. But people. You hear that, people go, oh, they get very upset. This is. It's like saying that there were former slaves in the south who owned slaves themselves. These are other facts. These are facts historically. Go check them out. Go, you know, please fact check me if I'm wrong. But, Clay, that's a very uncomfortable reality for some people because the narrative is so powerful.
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Clay Travis
Well, not only that, it's. If you ask any questions at all about it, to your point, if you say, are you sure that was racism? Like, I lived through this. And I was talking about earlier, we were at the Indiana Miami game, and just how much patriotism it felt like in that stadium as they sang the national anthem, put Trump on the scoreboard, everybody cheered. But it wasn't very long ago people were taking knees and there were players coming out and saying, oh, I was racially profiled, to your point. And I remember one of the players saying, I was racially profiled at, you know, a Las Vegas casino. I said, that seems kind of unlikely. I mean, if you pointed. If you said to me, hey, what place in America has more cameras per capita than a casino? Because they're trying to catch everybody to make sure you're not cheating at cards, to make sure you're. Whether or not you actually won your. Your, you know, Slot machine game, all those things, video comes out and it wasn't actually true at all.
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Buck Sexton
Right.
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Clay Travis
As often is the case and you've talked about with BLM basically dying because now everybody has a video of the police officers and what we overwhelmingly see, they're pretty good.
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Buck Sexton
Now, now we get into this. So by the numbers, okay, so this is now going to be what qualifies as a lynching. Now this is, if you consider a, a posse formed of individuals anywhere engaged in what is considered frontier justice that hung somebody outside of normal judicial procedure. I would, I mean, I think that. So now it's. What is, what is your definition of a lynching? The, the numbers are roughly 70, 30 black victims, white victims, as I'm pulling this up here. But now you have to get into well, what's considered a lynching because this is, this is excluding anything considered frontier justice. Yeah, so now you get into. Well, so, but, but then how are you separating out a lynch mob from frontier justice? I guess it's the presence. So basically if there was a judicial procedure that they went around, they're saying that is not. But if you consider non judicial proceedings on the frontier where people were hanged to also be a lynching, then yes, there are more lynchings of individuals who are not black. But even, Even by the NAACP, by the way, these are the NAACP's numbers. Even by the NAACP, NAACP's numbers. Do people know that 30% of their qualification of lynchings were white? You don't. This is not, I mean, how many people, if you still hear this, that lynchings are only a. Now, of course it's one of the ugliest things. It's horrible, it's racist, all of that. But we should know what the actual numbers or the actual reality of the, of the history of this was.
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Clay Travis
And we should be thankful that basically no one living today has ever experienced one. Right. By and large. Right. And, and so when you have somebody like Pam Grier come on, if you point out that that can't be true, then they typically come back with what? Oh, you're racist. Well, you don't know what it's like to live in this experience. And this is where I come back to objective reality and facts have to matter. And so for the view to have this, this story happening and you know this buck, they pre vet all of the answers to questions and know exactly to a large extent what is going to be said. So oftentimes they conduct pre interviews for these shows because so many of their hosts are morons that they know what's going to be said they still didn't.
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Buck Sexton
Correct. And just, just to give you a sense of why. So there's a thousand, a thousand documented cases of frontier justice where people were hanged by mobs that they're saying are non lynched. So it's like now we're getting into what the definition of a lynching is. And if you add those numbers in now it gets a lot closer. So it's getting to be more like 50, 50. But the point is merely people should understand the history of this such that they don't think that anybody alive today was witnessing lynchings on their way home.
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Clay Travis
And that it would be so common that your mom would be like, you can't look in the trees. Somebody just has to call out this bs.
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Buck Sexton
This is. I actually didn't know this. Estimates for Mexican American lynchings in the southwest range from 600 to over 5,000. This is again I'm just going based off of what Grok is saying here for all of these numbers. So this is my point.
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Clay Travis
So I.
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Buck Sexton
What I gave you, by the way, initially those were the end. Those are the official NAACP numbers on lynchings which is 70, 30, black and white. And to be clear, these. Now we're really look, this is all 1800s we're talking about here. Mostly 1848. 1848.
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Clay Travis
And a lot of those would be so called posse. Right. Like they would decide somebody has stolen.
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Buck Sexton
But this is what I'm talking when I said most lynchings are not there. There is a, there's. This is interesting actually historically and I'm seeing this play out now in the way that they do these numbers. So they make a distinction between like a non judicial hanging versus a non judicial hanging where there is some judicial procedure that was supposed to be in place and that is how they get to the 70, 30 number. OK, well I mean I don't think it really mattered very much to the people being hanged without due process. I'm just going to point that out.
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Clay Travis
And Pam Grier, 1 billion percent is lying here. And the fact that ABC would air that on the View, the fact that they would know she's going to say it and nobody would push back at all. I mean it's crazy. And it goes to what Buck's saying is there is a profound desperate hope to be a victim in left wing culture. Jussie Smollett is just such a primary evidentiary fact of that that they want to have awful things happen. They want to have experienced awful things. They want to have been victims. And Pam Grier is marinating in something that never happened. I wonder what she's even thinking of to claim that that occurred and to be allowed to air. All right, we come back. Are we still waiting guys? They still haven't started the White House press conference. I don't think they have. Still waiting on that. Eventually maybe the third hour, we will go take that live whenever it starts there about 45 minutes late or so. There's a company in Michigan, Rapid Radios, making modern day walkie talkies that give you another way of communicating with family members, friends and colleagues. For a limited time you can enjoy up to 60% off their most popular radios. We've got this for my 11 year old. Maybe a Snowmageddon. The white death approaches. My hometown of Nashville. Maybe we'll need to rely on on the five day charge in the event some of these power lines go down. Some people start to lose power. If we're getting as many much snow as they possibly are saying we are. Rapid Radio is great for catastrophic issues. Also great for young family members, older family members, easy to use. Pull them right out of the box. They're lots of fun. You can join the community that has over 15,000 five star reviews across the nation. Go to Rapid Radios.com today. Discover exclusive deals that won't last long. Elevate your connection, your experience. Rapid Radio Rapid Radios communication redefine. That's rapidradios.com 60 off today.
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Buck Sexton
He's just holding up wanted poster after wanted poster basically right now with you guys.
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Clay Travis
But yeah, in Switzerland.
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Clay Travis
We'll come back to President Trump. Let's continue to run the. Run that. Because he's holding up stuff sometimes not that easy to see.
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Buck Sexton
We'll come back to it and bring you the highlights. Can I actually just. Just as a way of. Because I obviously was going back and forth for a second. We're talking about that sound bite a moment ago and about the history and the facts around lynching. Wilfred Riley, who is a scholar and author. A friend of mine and he has a book, lies. My liberal teacher told me he wrote this. This is. This is about a year ago. Overall. I'm quoting from Wilfred now. Again, he's a professor and this is what it was Part of his most recent book, more whites than blacks were lynched in 23 states, a majority of states at the time, before we add in Hispanic and native numbers at all. I talk about this extensively in chapter five of Lies. Like I said, lies my liberal teacher told me. Great book. He writes. Lynching was often racist, of course, but Posse justice was very often just how communities dealt with accused rapists and cattle thieves and such before the state became firmly established as a sole arbiter of force. A posse. The title of every third western movie was a Lynch Mob. That was the point I was getting to before is if you actually add the numbers together for everybody who was extrajudicially hanged, it's not even close to being a majority of black Americans. And if you add in the native and Mexican numbers to it, it changes the whole capacity. So there's a, there's a narrative aspect here to limiting the data set, limiting the time period and then telling everybody that this is something that has a very specific political resonance even today. So I just want to, I wanted to quote Wilfrid on that one play so I can get the numbers out there.
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Clay Travis
No, 100%. And we'll come back. We'll go to President Trump. We'll continue to follow the one year anniversary. We'll take your talk back, your calls, 800-282-2882 as we roll through the Tuesday edition of the program. Final hour. Up next, and President Trump is heading to Davos. A little bit of a preview. I think by the time we sit down on Wednesday, Buck, there's going to have been a lot of fireworks over in Europe with what he's going to say. And heck, there may be some fireworks coming right now before all is said and done from this press briefing we're monitoring, we'll play for you next.
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