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Miranda Devine
Yeah, sure. This is from a source who is obviously very tech savvy and has basically used open source searching of web archives using some tools that private investigators have, but not using law enforcement tools. And you know, a day after Butler YouTube, for instance, shut down Thomas Crook's account, but my source managed to find old messages from there now this was available to the FBI because we know that the deputy director, Paul at bate, back in July of last year, a week, two weeks after the Butler event, he testified to Congress about this account with more than 700 comments, which we have, which our source gave us. And so, you know, it's pretty straightforward. Our source found 17 online accounts that Thomas Crooks had signed up to using his own name, using a phone number of Thomas Crooks that was publicly available and his email addresses that connected to all these accounts. So he's cross checked it and is very satisfied that this is the Thomas Crooks where he wasn't 100% sure. He said so, but he used these. They're not really aliases, but they're sort of handles Cooks used on other social media like Gab and X. He used Epic Microwave. That's also what he used on a site called DeviantArt. The only time he used an actual alias to sign up for an account was with PayPal. And he used the name Rod Swanson, which is the name of an FBI agent who, a former FBI agent from Vegas who was peripherally involved in the Las Vegas, you know, mysterious mass shooting. I've talked to him, knows nothing about it, doesn't have a PayPal account, never heard of, never, never interacted with Thomas Crooks and doesn't even know how to set up a PayPal account. But what he did tell me, because he's a very senior former FBI guy, very seasoned, he said it is inconceivable that a kid with this kind of online communications and sort of violent rhetoric would not have been visited or beyond the radar of the FBI. So, you know, other FBI people tell me the same thing. Some one of them suggested that because August 2020 was when Thomas was at his peak, violent rhetoric, talking about assassinating political leaders and assassinating military and using AR15s, which was similar to the gun that he used. And just after that, he goes dark, he just disappears off all of these platforms. You just, he's a ghost. But until August of 2020, he's very prolific and you can see the trajectory of how he goes from, you know, age sort of 15, 16, very pro Trump, you know, like calling him the ultimate patriot, very angry, anti Democrats, anti the squad, anti Ilhan Omar. And then something happens to him in January 2020, in the space of two months, he's gone from rabidly pro Trump, he goes to rabidly anti Trump. He's got flipped 180 degrees. And then his rhetoric gets more and more violent and Disturbing and, you know, people. It was so bad that there were people online interacting him with him, who were tagging the FBI and saying to him, hey, you know, you're pretty dumb. Like, the way you're talking openly now, it's good because now law enforcement knows where to find you. So it's hard to believe the FBI didn't have him in their sight. But Christopher Wray, a week after Butler, testified to Congress that they had done a search of their database and found nothing before Butler. So that doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't have any interaction. And I think Christopher Wray knew exactly what he was doing when he phrased it in that way, because I know that during my Biden research that there was interactions with whistleblowers about the Biden family, influence peddling, corruption. And that was not visible to any average FBI agent looking in the database. It was hidden away deliberately by certain rogue FBI agents in a place where it could only be found by people who needed to know.
Buck Sexton
So there's so much here, Miranda, I want, I think it's so important everyone knows these details because it's hard to believe, that's one way of putting it, that all this was out there and that as you've, as you said from even FBI sources of yours, that this would not have been on the FBI's radar. But an even like, lesser, but also equally hard to believe component of this to me seems to be that the FBI didn't find this stuff. Like, why? How is it possible that your person, your source, was able to find this online, but the FBI wasn't able to? Right. There's the possibility of being on the radar before the shooting and possible meeting with law enforcement. You've established that. But how is it that we didn't know about this before? Is the FBI, Are we to be told that they're that incompetent? That is just. It's mind blowing.
Miranda Devine
No, I have no reason to think that the FBI isn't fully aware of this and much more. I mean, you know, it would be ridiculous to think that they hadn't uncovered this. And in fact, Paul Abate, the deputy director under Ray, did testify that they had this account with more than 700, same as the YouTube account. So I assume they have all of this and much more. The question is, why haven't they been more forthcoming, particularly since Trump took over, by. When I contacted the FBI about this story and asked them a number of questions, including, I think, the most important question, did you have any interactions with Thomas Crooks Before Butler, did anyone tip you off about Thomas Crook? You know, did you investigate him? Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told. They should have knocked on his door. Did you do that? What? The answer I get from Kash Patel's FBI, no comment. That's it. So I don't understand it. And you know, someone else said to me, well, maybe it was the Secret Service, because in August 2020 Donald Trump was president. So they have would be the primary agency that would go and knock on a door if there's a threat to one of their protectives. But the Secret Service gave me a better response when I asked them and they said basically that this would be in, this would be something the FBI would do that even if they, they said they have no record of crooks. They said now. But in any case, this is an FBI responsibility. So I don't even think it's as simple as fall between the cracks between two agencies. The FBI knows a lot. They have to know a lot. Just how much I don't know and.
Buck Sexton
When can I jump in with there's something that we didn't know, or at least it wasn't reported until this week that this guy used they them pronouns and was like interested in furries and had brought into the gender madness. How could that not have been brought forward if the FBI was operating in good faith and had access to this information?
Miranda Devine
Yes, I mean, it's very slim, I have to emphasize that. But like Tyler Robinson, the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, there is a connection to this sexual fetish called furries, which is people dressing up as animals or, you know, enjoying cartoon animal, humanized figures having sex or being in sexual positions. So Thomas Crook, he's not shared any furry stuff or talked about it, but he was frequenting and had two accounts on a site called DeviantArt, which is a, the major sort of furry hub online. Furry hub. And it's sort of for the furry community. And he doesn't share anything like that. He does share this sort of bizarre image of a very muscle bound, sort of Sylvester Stallone sort of masculine body with a female head on top of it with a puny little guy next to it that looks like him that's sort of in a prostate. They're not dressed, they're dressed in their underwear. So that's one. And then other than that sort of cartoon characters on this platform that are violent, shooting each other in the head and so on.
Buck Sexton
Right. So I mean, he's clearly a sicko. What about the they Them pronoun stuff.
Miranda Devine
And he uses they, them pronouns on deviant art. That's the first time we've seen that. So clearly some sort of gender confusion or exploring gender identity again, I mean, that disturbing and needs to be explored because we've had so many gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson also in that vein. His, his living lover. So I think it's pertinent and I don't think it's enough for Keshe Patel to say, oh, he was a lone actor, forget about it. I mean, if there's a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson, it's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson who also did an episode on this last week with the same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose job is oversight of the FBI. And he has been asking since day one for a whole lot of information, including, you know, camera forensics, autopsy, other documents and getting stonewalled. And even under Trump's FBI, he had to. Ron Johnson was very angry about the fact that in July, on the one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena Cash Patel for the documents that he's been asking for.
Buck Sexton
So, you know, we will, we will have a team. Let's, let's get Ron John, he may be listening right now. Let's get Senator Johnson on here because I want to talk to him about this as well because we need to continue to follow this and push for this. Miranda, this is also important and everyone should go read Miranda's piece at the New York Post. Also her podcast, Pod Force One. Yeah, Yep. Go, go check out her podcast before, before that. You go though. I know you got a whole bunch of hits today. Tell me. I want to let you react to this honestly. You know, Clay and I really appreciate your work and we appreciate you as a person. Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were always, while you reported on him, you would always say, look, he's kind of a sad guy and like, you know, he might actually, you know, I, you always had some, when you would talk to us about this on the air, some degree of sympathy for the guy because I think you're just a nice person. I had to play this because I want you to react. Hunter Biden here said mean things about you and Clay and I are ready to fight him. Play 16. There's no ethics in what, you know, like someone as horrendously ugly as Miranda Devine physically. And, and in terms of her. And in terms of ethics, it does. I mean, she is, you know, a. And then, and, and and that goes for, you know. You know, I mean, Daily Mail and, you know, but, I mean, they're horrors. I mean, they're whores for money. And, you know, she does it because she makes money. And, you know, when she goes to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just fine, but, you know, I don't know anybody that's going to be mourning her when she's gone. I think we person. Well, we appreciate you. Everything you said is a lie, and he's a disgusting piece of trash. I just. Do you feel like, oh, man, you were too nice to this guy. He's a horrible human being. He truly is.
Miranda Devine
I still have the same impression of him that I've always had. He's a broken human being. And look, he's lashing out. Notice that in all his podcasts, he never refutes a word I said and what I've written and what I found. Even though he keeps up the pretense through his lawyer, Abby Loll, that he doesn't know anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop. Or maybe it was his laptop. It was stolen. He never refutes any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that he traded on his father's name, the fact that his father was involved in getting him clients, and then he put him on the speakerphone, all that corruption during Joe Biden's vice presidency to enrich his family. He doesn't. He doesn't go into any of that and try and defend himself. He just attacks my appearance and hilariously calls me a whore. So, I mean, you know, it's ridiculous, and I think I just ignore it. I mean.
Buck Sexton
I mean, he's. He's. He should. He should be in prison, as we all know. He should be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison, but because of Daddy, he's not. But I just. You know, Miranda, I think there were a lot of people on the right who were. You know, they're all, he's an addict. And they try to give some sympathy. I think what you saw here, he's a disgusting human being. And I. And I thought that all along. So, you know, I just think he showed everybody what a piece of garbage he is, and I'm just glad that you did the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him that you did and that people knew the truth about the Bidens in general in the Biden crime family. So. And, you know, Clay. Clay or I are happy to have a word with him outside the bar if we ever see him, you know, after he says these mean things. Yes. Anyway, Miranda, you're the best. You're the best.
Miranda Devine
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
And all right people should go check out Pod Force One. Thank you, Miranda.
Miranda Devine
Thank you.
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Goodbye. Welcome back into Clay. Ann Buck here. I gotta say, Hunter Biden getting really mouthy about our friend Miranda Devine. Could I, could we do like a. A charity boxing match? I'll get in there with Hunter. You know what I mean? Charity boxing, that would be, that would be valid. That would be allowed. All parties could consent to. And you know, what a, what a jerk. What a jerk that guy is. Well, we knew that all along. But you know, she never went personal. Really about him. Yeah, she reported on his personal level. That's all fair game because of who he is and how he's leveraging his dad. But it was never, never done with a viciousness, man. Hunter Biden, a vicious piece of trash. And he got pardoned by daddy for all of his crimes, for all the abuse, for all the nastiness, all the bad stuff he's done. He walks. Yeah, man, that guy. And also, remember when they did the book and the media was trying to. Oh, Hunter Biden, he's trying to set up. No, he's not. He's just. He's a brat. He's just an old brat. Somebody who's never faced the consequences of reality because of who his dad is. A corrupt stooge for the Democrats. The whole thing is just so gross. But anyway, Miranda Devine's done fantastic reporting. That stuff about the FBI though, and Thomas Crooks. We need more. We need more. We need more info. That is for sure. The investigation continues. If you receive an unexpected package this holiday season, think twice before scanning the QR code on the box. Cyber scammers have taken to sending packages without sender info. They want you to scan that funny looking QR code to get more details. And that's when the cyber thief starts to get your own personal data. That's just one of the latest examples of how online identity theft is happening. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives.
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Buck Sexton
Concluded that you, you orchestrated the brutal.
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Murder of a journalist.
Buck Sexton
911 families are furious that you are.
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Here in the oval office.
Buck Sexton
Watch Americans.
Donald Trump
Who are you with?
Buck Sexton
And the same to you, Mr. President.
Donald Trump
Who are you with?
Buck Sexton
I'm with ABC News, sir.
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Buck Sexton
ABC News, sir.
Donald Trump
Fake news. ABC fake news. One of the worst. One of the worst in the business. But I'll answer your question. I have nothing to do with the family business. I have left. And when I, I've devoted 100% of my energy, what my family does is fine. They do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia actually. I'm sure they could do a lot. And anything they've done has been very good. That's what we've done. We've built a tremendous business for a long time. I've been very successful. I decided to leave that success behind and make America very successful. And I've made America more successful by far than it ever was and that it ever could have been. No matter who was president, there would be Nobody bringing in $21 trillion dollars that I can tell you right now. As far as this gentleman is concerned, he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was Extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happened, but he knew nothing about it. And we can leave it at that. You don't have to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.
Buck Sexton
Oh, guys, can you get, there's more, there's more. Can we continue? Find, find the. He keeps going. Because I was, I was listening in one of our, one of our breaks, one of our station breaks as I was prepping for the next segment. He really, he really lays into her after that. That's just the beginning of the exchange. We'll bring you more of it here. But you'll notice, did you ever hear anything Biden met with, met with the Saudis? I mean, would you ever expect something like this except when you have a Trump administration? They've just, they've got to go on offense. They know this now. They've got to do anything they can to get people to really, to get Trump to spend time dealing with their attacks instead of continuing to have the focus on this country and what's going on with the Trump administration agenda. Because overall, I think it's very popular. It's very much working. In fact, Stephen Miller, one of our favorites, the great, great, some people are saying, the great Stephen Miller from this White House, he was saying this is cut 17, that it is Trump who is doing the most. It is Trump who is moving mountains, so to speak, on affordability issues. Play 17. The Democrat Media lies for a living, that they're professional liars. So it's a good opportunity to review the facts under President Trump. In the last few months, we have seen the first significant reductions in prices and the cost of living since the last time President Trump was in office. For four years, we saw record setting double digit inflation inflation upwards of 20%. And now under President Trump, inflation is back down to desired benchmark levels of a little bit over 2%. But to be clear, President Trump is doing more every single day to keep bringing costs down. President Trump is fighting to reduce the cost of energy to historic lows. I mean, this is what he's really focused on. And you'll notice that the media attacks are always on, on other things. First of all, what is, let's just take this for a second. What is Trump supposed to do about the Saudi crown prince and the allegation that he had something to do with that guy Jamal Khashoggi's, you know, assassination, murder? What is Trump supposed to do about this, I'm just wondering, what is he supposed to do? What, what does ABC News want? You'll notice it's clearly intended to be a, an assault and an attack of, of whatever proportions. They can get out. They can get out of this. Do we, do we have more? When Trump really goes after. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is where you can. Trump has really had it with Mary Bruce of ABC News. Trump has really had it, and here he decides to let her know what he thinks of her play. 32. Why wait for Congress to release the Epstein files? Why not just do it now?
Donald Trump
It's not the question that I mind. It's your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter. It's the way you ask these questions. You start off with a man who's highly respected asking him a horrible, insubordinate and just a terrible question. And you could even ask that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched. Somebody psyched you over at abc. They're going to psych it. You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter. As far as the Epstein files is, I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert. But I guess I turned out to be right. But you know who does have Bill Clinton. Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his island many times. I never did. Andrew Weissman. I hear all these guys were friends of his. You don't even talk about those people. You just keep going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion dollars that I talked about today. It's a hoax.
Buck Sexton
See, again, he's saying it's a hoax to try to wrap Trump into it. He's not saying Epstein's a hoax, obviously. He's pointing out all the people involved with Epstein as a matter of record out there in the public, the facts of the matter. But yeah, he's really, he has really had enough. You know, I, I, I also believe, I think that Trump does feel like, like now I understand people could say, oh, it's the job of a journalist to ask the tough questions of a foreign head of state is in the Oval Office. Find me a clip. Where anyone from ABC News asked anything like that during the Biden years. Find me that clip. The point is, it's two sets of rules. They're journalists. When it excuses them from being, you know, ferociously aggressive and, you know, they're stenographers. Stenographers for power. When there's a Democrat administration, we're all very aware of how this all goes. Biden didn't even talk to the media. Biden didn't even talk to the media and honestly had the dumbest White House press secretary, I think, in the history of the job and was, I really believe, also so incompetent and just not up to the job that people felt kind of bad and didn't really. Some people just knew that she's a Democrat, so you can't attack her, but other people felt bad and she's just not up for this. Not up to it, which has become very apparent in Karine Jean Pierre's book tour after the fact about everything that's gone on. So just has no idea about anything and answers almost every question with. As a, as a black woman who's a member of the LGBTQ community, comma, every question, every question. She'll even answer a question about her using that in every question by starting that way. So, yeah, we all know that the media was in a totally different space, very different place of operation when it came to the Biden regime. But anyway, Trump is. Trump is. He's doing a lot of things that I believe are really helpful to the American people and really matter. And the other side of things, the other team is doing everything they can to get the focus off of the issues that you really care about, off of what is going to move the needle, so to speak, and get people thinking much more about whatever salacious gossip they can pretend is actual reporting. And that's, that's something that Trump is just. He's tired of it. He's tired of it, and he should be. So I, I commend him for taking the approach on this that, you know, enough. Enough is enough. And here is, for example, even over at the Breakfast club, this is 28. Mr. The God Charlamagne saying that somehow the Bill Clinton relationship with Epstein is so much less. It's so much more robust and documented than anything with Donald Trump, but so much less interest in this play. 28. It's just funny how the news works because Bill Clinton, you know, wrote a letter to, you know, Jeffrey Epstein as.
Miranda Devine
Well for his birthday, but nobody's talking about that.
Buck Sexton
And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton in the dress in high heels, you know, you know, in his New York mansion, but nobody's talking about that. My thing is this. I don't Care who's on the list. Everybody gotta go. Burn it all down. Like, that's just, simple as that. Mutually assured destruction. Whoever's on that list need to go. Nobody needs to be protecting pedophiles. I don't care what party they are.
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Miranda Devine
And you know, to that point, though.
Buck Sexton
You know, Clinton is not the president right now.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I think he would still be.
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Buck Sexton
No, he wouldn't. Because liberal media wouldn't push the issue. That is correct. I like the last thing he threw in there. Mr. The God coming to the, to the side of reality there. Of course, if Clinton were president now, they would just, they would do exactly what they're doing, which is pretend that what is actually the public record on this issue is something else. They would, they would lie about it and they would make it seem like Trump even said this today in the Oval Office. He said, I'm the one who kicked him out of the club and thought he was a creep. Clinton was on his. How many guys, how many times was Clinton on the plane? Can you. I forget the number. It was a lot. There's a lot. Spent a lot of time with this guy and the people. Trump never went to the island. A lot of people went to this island. That's kind of a big move, you know. How many people. Well, I mean, I know you're talking about the kind of global elites here, but how many people would you be like, yeah, you know, I don't know you that well, but I'm going to get on your plane, your private plane and fly to your private island to hang out? Right? That's. Wouldn't you have to know someone really well before you'd want to do that? Wouldn't you want to really know who you're dealing with? Look, I'm, I p. I get in, I get invites to, you know, to people, to sometimes even kind of like prominent famous people. I get invited to, you know, some things here. Not a lot because I'm a pretty private person outside of my work. But, but, you know, I'm just telling you, if someone I didn't know said, hey, will you hop on my private plane and go to my private island for the weekend? Because I just want to talk, I would say, how about a coffee? How about we go for a stroll first? There's different layers, different connectivity that has been established in this public record. And they keep, they keep desperately trying to dirty Trump up with this. And it just doesn't stick because it's not there. There's no there. There's. And they, on the other side, they pretend to be the great defenders of these women who were victimized by Epstein. The left, the Democrats, they pretend that that's what they care about. But no, they only care about it insofar as they can use it as a weapon against Trump in some way. And they're far less interested in pushing on what is much more apparent, which is the deep and enduring relationships that some of the biggest donors to the Democrat party, so the most important pe the former president of the Democrat Party, that they don't really seem that interested in, you know, that, that, that all of a sudden they get. They get confused. Oh, yeah, confused, sure. Oh, look. Hopefully your Thanksgiving plans next week include spending time with family and close friends. Holidays are the time of year when we get to spend some downtime with those that we love the most. These are some of the same family members we worry about when there's too much distance between us and something like a natural disaster happens. That's when you want to stay connected. No matter if it's a power outage or a service disruption. Rapid Radios, modern day walkie talkies help you do just that. They deliver peace of mind when it matters most. Carrie and I had this exact experience last fall when a hurricane ripped parts of the Carolinas up and our own family members were affected. My in laws, Kerry's family. Rapid Radios kept us connected when nothing else could. We don't know when the next storm or emergency will come about, but we do know a way to stay connected this holiday. Give a gift that protects the people you love. No monthly fees, no complicated setup. Just pre programmed reliable communication when it counts. Because when everything else goes silent. Rapid Radios. Don't go to rapidradios.com make sure your family is never out of reach. That's rapidradios.com news you can count on and some laughs, too. Clay Travis at Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Shh.
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Miranda Devine
Not the point of your whole story, but the tipping part, if I'm sitting down and someone's bringing me food, I'll tip them. If I'm standing up, ordering my own.
Buck Sexton
Food and clearing my own dishes, I'm not tipping. Period.
Miranda Devine
End of story. That's how the world should work.
Buck Sexton
I, I don't disagree with your, with your rule there at all. And I want to be clear. Yesterday I wasn't saying to people, you know, everyone has to make their own make their own budgets and take care of their. Themselves and their families first and foremost, obviously being fair to people who are servers and stuff in the process. But I was just saying I have given up on enforcing that rule in my own life because I just figure anybody that I'm coming across in the service industry, it's like I'm spreading. Spreading some loot around. That's my idea. That's how I do things. I'm very blessed, fortunate in life and, you know, just trying, just trying to be generous in my own community in little ways I can. And to those who are in a position where they're not worried about week to week, month to month bills, you know, just tip 30%. You know, give, give. People especially, we're working really hard. I mean, I think it's. It's so important to show appreciation for people how you can, when you can with little money. Um, all right, here we go. Bob from Houston wants to weigh in on our dating conversation. BB Hit it, Clay. Buck. I learned early on that girls are just like guys. We all just want a nice, respectful friendship that may blossom into a relationship. And when I learned that, then talking to any group of girls in high school was no problem. Now, it wasn't, you know, trying to pick up a date or anything like that, but I'm, you know, just making daily conversation. To me, that was just really great. So. And lo and behold, it was actually through a friend that I met my wife, and we've known each other for 20 years. Married 13. Bob, I'm glad it all worked out for you. I'm a big believer. I always say this to people. Just talk to people. You'd be amazed at how much you learn and how much opens up to you when you're just willing to talk to folks, talk to people as you, as you can as you come across them. I'll say also that the idea of a pickup line. Here's my thing. I don't think the pickup line really matters. What helps people is that the pickup line gives guys, guys, the ones who do pickup lines, right? It gives them the confidence to approach a woman that they're then speaking to. And because they think, oh, I have a pickup line, they come across as confident and ready to engage. The line doesn't really matter. But I wouldn't go with, may I meet you? For most of you out there, unless you're going to do it in an ironic and funny way, and maybe that'll work great. In fact, I bet there are people who are going to get married because of Bill ACKMAN'S May I meet you? Because he said it and then the lady laughed in response. Then the space hamster flew his hot.
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Clay Travis
Bottom of the ocean.
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Clay Travis
Crunchy delivers uncompromised clean beauty with clinically proven ingredients, sustainable packaging and trusted certifications like EWG Verified and Leaping Bunny.
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder)
Crunching is creating a future where clean beauty is a genuine promise, not just a marketing term. Because trusting what you put on your skin should be the standard, not the lux.
Clay Travis
From their award winning foundation to their nourishing skincare line, Crunchy is raising the bar.
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder)
It's so true. So I've been putting on more makeup than I ever have in my life because we've been doing videos and live shows and so I am really, really careful about what I put on my skin because I break out easily. So I love that. Crunchy is so clean and so nourishing. I'm actually wearing makeup that's good for my skin and makes my skin look better instead of hiding all the imperfections, which is usually what I use makeup for, honestly.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Goodbye.
Miranda Devine
Hi, I'm Zing Singh.
Buck Sexton
And I'm Simon Jack.
Miranda Devine
And together we host Good Bad Billionaire.
Buck Sexton
The podcast exploring how some of the.
Miranda Devine
World'S richest people made their fortunes. And we are back with a brand new season of billionaires. Yes, movie megastar Arnold Schwarzenegger, America's richest self made businesswoman Diane Hendricks.
Buck Sexton
And co founder of Snapchat Evan Spiegel, to name just a few.
Clay Travis
And we're asking you to decide if.
Miranda Devine
They'Re good, bad or just another billionaire Good bad billionaire.
Buck Sexton
From the BBC World Service.
Miranda Devine
Listen on BBC or wherever you get your podcasts.
Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast.
Episode: Hour 2 – Trump and the Prince
Date: November 18, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Summary by Podcast Summarizer
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle hot-button issues at the intersection of politics, media, and law enforcement with guest Miranda Devine (New York Post columnist). The discussion centers around:
The tone throughout is one of skepticism toward the media and governmental institutions, with humorous asides and instances of righteous indignation—typical of the show’s personality-driven format.
(Interview begins at 04:48)
Investigation Origin: Miranda Devine, using a tech-savvy private source (not law enforcement), uncovered that Crooks—who attempted to assassinate Trump—had at least 17 online accounts tied to his real name, phone, and email.
Verification: FBI had known about at least one of Crooks’ prolific YouTube accounts since shortly after the incident. Deputy Director Paul Abate testified about the existence of over 700 online comments.
Behavioral Shift: Crooks’ digital persona flipped from “rabidly pro-Trump” to “rabidly anti-Trump” between January and August 2020, with posts escalating in violent rhetoric. After August 2020, he “goes dark” online.
FBI Awareness: Multiple FBI sources told Devine it would have been “inconceivable” for Crooks—given his online activity and threats—not to have been flagged or visited by the FBI.
“He’s got flipped 180 degrees. And then his rhetoric gets more and more violent and disturbing… It was so bad that people interacting with him were tagging the FBI.”
— Miranda Devine (07:26)
The FBI claimed (under Director Christopher Wray and Deputy Paul Abate) they had no prior record of Crooks, although Devine and her source easily found extensive online traces.
Devine posed explicit questions to the FBI about whether Crooks was ever visited or investigated prior to the Butler incident. The response: “no comment.”
Secret Service deferred responsibility to the FBI, denying any record of contact with Crooks.
“I have no reason to think that the FBI isn’t fully aware of this and much more… so I don’t even think it’s as simple as [falling] between the cracks.”
— Miranda Devine (10:34)
Crooks used “they/them” pronouns on his DeviantArt account and was present in online communities associated with the “furry” subculture, which has overlapped with other recent high-profile assailants.
Buck and Miranda briefly discuss possible patterns among high-profile attackers exploring gender identity or niche sexual subcultures.
“He uses they/them pronouns on DeviantArt. That’s the first time we’ve seen that. Clearly some sort of gender confusion or exploring gender identity—again, disturbing and needs to be explored…”
— Miranda Devine (14:01)
(Discussion at 15:18)
Buck Sexton plays a clip of Hunter Biden personally attacking Miranda Devine, calling her “horrendously ugly” and making profane accusations against her and other media figures.
Buck and Clay leap to her defense, denouncing Hunter Biden’s character and offering their support.
Devine responds by reiterating that Hunter never actually disputes any of her reporting (“He never refutes any of it… He just attacks my appearance”) and maintains her stance that he is a “broken human being, lashing out.”
“Notice that in all his podcasts, he never refutes a word I said… he just attacks my appearance and hilariously calls me a whore.”
— Miranda Devine (17:06)
“He should be in prison, as we all know… but because of Daddy, he’s not.”
— Buck Sexton (18:02)
(Segment starts 25:43 and 27:24 for Trump Oval Office exchange)
Clay and Buck dissect a contentious Oval Office press encounter in which President Trump is aggressively questioned about:
Notable Exchange:
(28:36–28:41)
Donald Trump responds to the ABC reporter:
“Fake news. ABC fake news. One of the worst. One of the worst in the business. But I’ll answer your question. I have nothing to do with the family business… I’ve made America more successful by far than it ever was... As far as this gentleman [Saudi Crown Prince] is concerned, he’s done a phenomenal job….”
On the Epstein Files:
Trump denounces questions about Epstein as a “Democrat hoax”—not denying Epstein’s crimes, but stating that efforts to smear him are politically motivated, especially given the Democratic figures (notably Bill Clinton) with clear, documented Epstein links.
“As far as the Epstein files, I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of my club many years ago… You don’t even talk about those people. You just keep going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion I talked about today. It’s a hoax.”
— Donald Trump (31:49–32:53)
(Discussion at 32:53 and 36:13–36:43)
“Bill Clinton… wrote a letter to Jeffrey Epstein… had a picture of Bill Clinton in the dress in high heels in his mansion, but nobody’s talking about that… Whoever’s on that list need to go. Nobody needs to be protecting pedophiles. I don’t care what party they are.”
— Charlamagne Tha God (36:11)
(45:13 and 46:43)
“It is inconceivable that a kid with this kind of online communications and sort of violent rhetoric would not have been visited or beyond the radar of the FBI.”
— Miranda Devine (07:50)
“No, I have no reason to think that the FBI isn’t fully aware of this and much more…”
— Miranda Devine (10:34)
“Fake news. ABC fake news. One of the worst. One of the worst in the business. But I’ll answer your question. I have nothing to do with the family business.”
— Donald Trump (28:41)
“He’s a brat. He’s just an old brat. Somebody who’s never faced the consequences of reality because of who his dad is—a corrupt stooge for the Democrats.”
— Buck Sexton on Hunter Biden (23:42)
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:48 | Miranda Devine interview: Thomas Crooks investigation, FBI response | | 12:22 | Crooks’ online presence: DeviantArt, furry subculture, pronoun use | | 15:18 | Hunter Biden’s attack on Devine; Devine’s response | | 27:24 | Trump’s Oval Office confrontation with ABC News | | 31:49 | Trump denounces Epstein-related questions as political attacks | | 36:11 | Charlamagne Tha God on Clinton/Epstein; media double standards | | 45:13 | Listener call-in: Tipping rules (service industry discussion) | | 46:43 | Listener call-in: Dating and approachability |
This episode underscores the Clay & Buck show’s critique of perceived institutional failures and double standards in both media and law enforcement. The hosts, alongside investigative journalist Miranda Devine, spotlight the FBI’s handling of a would-be assassin, denounce Hunter Biden’s personal attacks, and dissect the combative interplay between the Trump administration and the press—especially regarding Saudi Arabia and Epstein ties. The episode mixes investigative depth, political commentary, and lively banter, staying true to its personality-driven, skeptical-conservative tone.