Clay Travis (4:03)

He is arriving any moment and there's uncertainty about what his outfit's gonna be, as that has been a point of contention quite a lot in the White House, evidently in the past. So we will see.

Buck Sexton (4:16)

We're watching this live. Yeah, people are taking shots at the fact that he wore a T shirt before. I don't think he's going to wear a T shirt this time. We will see. But Kim Strassel reporting over at Fox News. I see this any moment Zelensky arrived. Okay. So he. It's imminent. While we're talking here, he will be at the White House. Europeans are there. But one of our callers had a very important insight in the last hour. He wanted to spend a little more time on here to give some context. The goal initially of the sanctions, we were told, was to cripple the Russian economy. And that was under. That was under Biden. And yes, it is worth Noting, as Trump has noted many times, that this war was started under Biden. Now, you can say whatever you want about it. It didn't begin under Trump and it very well could have. The same conditions were in place in terms of the realities on the ground over there. But for some reason, it was far better timing in Putin's mind to go with a dementia puppet in the White House. I think that speaks for itself. I think it's quite clear why that would make sense from Putin's perspective. Again, if you're just looking at force, cunning, getting what you want, Putin made a smart move on that one. He going in while it was Biden was certainly, I think, a stronger option for him. But, okay, back to the economic sanctions and the realities of that. We were told, and I remember this, that in the early days of the war, oh, these sanctions, and this is by the Biden administration, these sanctions are going to bring Russia to their knees. And what ended up happening was, I think, pretty foreseeable Clay, for anybody who understands how the global hydrocarbon economy works, which is Russia just said, ok, we're just going to keep selling our oil and someone's going to buy it. We're going to keep selling our natural gas and someone's going to buy it. Because for nation states, oil and natural gas are absolute necessities and are effectively money. I mean, they are what you need to have a modern economy. And so looking at what happened when the sanctions got turned up a bit, especially on individuals, initially there was a pivot and the Russians got closer with China selling a lot, selling a lot more of their oil and natural gas to China, selling it to India, which came up recently in the context of the tariff negotiations with Donald Trump where he was saying, you guys, that stuff off buying the Russian oil or you're going to get hit with some crazy high tariffs. North Korea moved closer, but really North Korea is just an appendage geographically and politically of China. So that's not surprising. North Korea was closer into the Russian orbit than at any time previously. But, Clay, the real part of it is, and I think what, what lays it out more clearly than any other aspect, the Europeans continue to buy this stuff. The Europeans haven't entirely weaned themselves off of, of this. And so how can you have a sanctions regime with so many holes in it? And that's why the Russian economy, that's why the Russian economy hasn't been brought to its knees at all. It's been a hit. I'm not saying there aren't, you know, they've I think they've lost McDonald's and Starbucks and stuff. But if you, if Europe relies still on some degree of Russian oil, which they do, how are you going to say you have a successful sanctions regime? I mean, Russia's share of petroleum to the EU has fallen, but they're still buying some of it. I mean, just to note this. And other countries have picked up a huge part of the excess because why not? They just want to get the oil there. They don't care about this conflict.

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Clay Travis (8:02)

The caller's question, I think this goes to the essence of this to such an extent, and let me give credit, Friday night, Sean Hannity did a great sit down with Trump from Anchorage. And Trump actually hit on this. He said one of the big issues with the Ukraine invasion of Russia and the isolation of Russia, Russia was we actually pushed Russia and China together as, as, as, as compatriots in some way. And I think this is so important and we talked about it some on Friday and I believe Thursday as well. So Russia, we cut off. That's the idea, right? We're going to say, oh, these sanctions are going to be massively important. We are going to shut up Russia down and isolate them from the rest of the world. Really, it's just kind of a shell game because what happened was Russia still selling their oil and gas. Instead of primarily selling it to Europe, they sell it to India and then India can reroute it all over the world.

Buck Sexton (9:12)

Right?

Clay Travis (9:12)

So we're really just allowing India. So the tariff of 50%, effectively, that Trump put on India was a whoa moment. What Trump has not done yet is actually hold China accountable for buying so much Russian oil and gas. And I think the India move was a warning shot at China and Russia that that next level of sanction might be coming. And so this is this whole idea that we were gonna end Western relationship with Russia and it would bring their economy to its knees didn't work. It just didn't work. Now inflation is way too high in Russia. They are having to take less than the market value overall would be for their oil and gas if they were selling it freely on the global marketplace. But by and large, India is paying a little bit of a discount. They then are marking it up, selling it elsewhere and making a good profit in the process. And so this is what the one of these things that is so interesting here is we thought we had the economic pipe might to keep Russia from continuing this war, and that worked.

Donald Trump (10:32)

And.

Buck Sexton (10:35)

One of the ironies of this, first of all, for anyone who was wondering, just to give you some of the numbers, Europe's reliance on Russian gas, I think, is down 90%. But they're still doing billions and billions of dollars. The EU is still buying billions of dollars of Russian oil. That's what you need to know. That is still happening and the value of all Russian natural gas imports from Russia. So Russian exports of natural gas has increased by dollar figure over the last four years, Clay, because of shortages. It turns out when you have price increases because of changes in supply and demand, they can't get as much out. But what they're getting out costs more because countries are still reliant on this stuff. You do not have a modern economy. You cannot function, you cannot feed yourself as a nation without oil and natural gas.

Clay Travis (11:33)

So the idea that we were going.

Buck Sexton (11:34)

To box Russia into a corner with this was, yeah, there's pressure, yes, the EU has, has gotten, is doing less than it was and substantially less than the oil side, but they're still, you know, 10% of what they were. But Russia is not hurting anywhere near the way that we were told that they would. And I think that's just indicative of the people in charge either overestimate their own strength or just don't really have an understanding of how the global economy really functions.

Clay Travis (12:03)

Zelensky reportedly pulling up right now, will update you on how that greeting goes. Here's the stat, by the way, that I wanted to hit that I think is indicative of this, and I'm reading from the New York Times, which I think actually has covered this very well. India, before The Ukraine invasion, 1% of its oil and gas came from Russia. India after the invasion of Ukraine, now 33% of its oil and gas comes. And here's a good paragraph on this buck. Quietly, it says this has pleased everybody because while they're borrowing Russian oil and gas, in many countries, they are rerouting Russian crude. Europe then buys the oil and gas from India. So it's just India has become a middleman, makes a couple dollar profit and then it goes right back to Europe. So it's still, it's like it's a shell game. Everybody's pretending, oh, we really did something, and really India just makes a couple of bucks and, and is the middleman to then route the Russian oil back to Europe.

Buck Sexton (13:16)

It's. Think about that. It's even more cynical than what, what most of us would think is possible. I think under these circumstances. Oil is a, it is a commodity, as I said, that all these countries need. And where the oil comes from at some level is fungible. It's a true global market. So someone was, someone's gonna buy it. You're never gonna have a situation where the Russians are like, hey, we got all this oil, anyone want it? Everyone goes, no, we won't take oil at a dramatically reduced price point from the Russians because we care so much about who's in charge of Donetsk. That's just not the way the world works.

Clay Travis (13:53)

Zielinski arrives on. Yeah. What is he wearing? I, I'm not great. We all know at any kind of clothes he does seem to be much better dressed. He's not in his olive green fatigue looking thing. He's in an. I believe it's an all black outfit. And it looks a little bit like a, it's not quite a suit, but it is much closer to a suit. What would you call this?

Buck Sexton (14:20)

Are we talking Nehru collar here? What do we, what do you mean? Like, what's not quite suit?

Clay Travis (14:26)

Well, it's not a suit jacket, but it's like. What would you call this, Ali? I mean, it looks a little bit euro to me. What would you call this?

Buck Sexton (14:33)

It looked like a suit jacket to me. It was really dark, so I was having a hard time telling. But there was no. No, that's collar. I think that's, I think that's, I mean that's, it's, it's. That's. He's not wearing a tie, which I'm not going to hit him on because I think ties are dumb and. Except the buck wears the middle.

Clay Travis (14:52)

Outfit analysis here would be. This is a grown man's outfit.

Buck Sexton (14:57)

This is, this, it's very Euro. You know, you could.

Clay Travis (15:00)

That's what I was trying to say.

Buck Sexton (15:01)

Yeah, yeah, he's very Eurotastic with it. But no, this is, I think this is, this is respectful. It's a suit jacket and a button down shirt. This is not, you know, what you'd wear to the gym to get your, you know, to wail on your pec muscles or something. I think this is fair.

Clay Travis (15:15)

I, I don't even feel comfortable. Cause I have been like, every time I wear an outfit anywhere, I get, I get criticized for being inappropriate. So I'm just going to start wearing full tuxedos to any event be way overdressed for everything. But to me it does look like he's better dressed to the extent that this is a. I think that picking.

Buck Sexton (15:35)

This apart is, would be. People are looking for something to attack Zelensky for if he had showed up in a T shirt and fatigue pants or Something I'd be saying, come on, show respect to the White House under the situation. This is. It's not. It's one thing. It's almost like if he's wearing a tie, but you don't like the color. Well, he's wearing a tie. Ok. You know, like, you have to. We can't. We're not actually the fashion police here. It's just about respect for the White House, for Trump and for the Ukrainian people, honestly, as their representative. And I think he's. Personally, I think he's crossed that bar, even though if you or I wore what he is wearing anywhere, we would be mocked. But we get mocked for everything.

Clay Travis (16:10)

By the way, I get mocked for.

Buck Sexton (16:11)

The tennis shoes that I wear. They're New Balance. I didn't know New Balance was so offensive to people.

Clay Travis (16:16)

As soon as he got out. I'm looking at the video right now. This has just been posted by Margot Martin 1 minute ago. TRUMP basically says, you look great, and points to the jacket and the shirt. So. So there we go.

Buck Sexton (16:30)

So there's well attired. He's well attired. He passes the attire test. All right, let's not get too crazy about this. And now we can focus on the business of what's going on here, which is figuring out for me, Clay, the territorial concessions part. You can see a way through that.

Clay Travis (16:47)

The.

Buck Sexton (16:48)

Here's a very imprecise analogy. One of the things that always destroyed any negotiations for Israel, Palestine, you know, finals, final, sort of end state.

Clay Travis (17:03)

Program.

Buck Sexton (17:04)

Was the right of return. So the. So like, Arafat would be like, well, yeah, but we also have to bring back all the pal. And it's like, well, that's a. That's a deal killer. Okay, that's not happening. And so the right of return was just always something that they would use to avoid actually signing a deal. The security guarantee part of this is very tricky.

Clay Travis (17:22)

Yes.

Buck Sexton (17:23)

I think that's trickier than the land part of this, because that's lines on a map. You can figure it out. You can come to a painful but reasonable end to it. What is a security guarantee without the US Saying we will militarily punish Russia if they do, if they continue the war after they say they've stopped it? That's the part of it I don't have a clear answer to yet. But that's why Trump's meeting with him. And that's what the discussion is going to be.

Clay Travis (17:47)

And that's why I think the Korea example is there's still no peace in Korea, but in 1950, three.

Buck Sexton (17:55)

But Clay, we have. Our troops are in Korea. We actually have some of them right now. I know I've seen on our maps, we get, we get downloads in South Korea. Not in North Korea, but in South Korea. We get downloads for this show. So, hey, thank you guys for your service, guys and gals over there.

Clay Travis (18:10)

But generationally, to your point, we have had people there. And I think that's going to be one of the questions. Do we have a base? Do we have a rotating.

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Clay Travis (25:00)

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Zelinsky has been asked and we're going to play some of this audio for you as Zelensky and Trump taking questions from the media. Zelensky just said we need to find diplomatic ways to end this war. We are ready for a trilateral meeting. Again I am reporting based on news coming through. We are going this is happening in real time. That is a major statement because there has been hope inside of the White House that potentially by Friday we could have a trilateral meeting with Trump as the mediator, Putin and Zelensky. For Zelensky to be saying that off the top buck suggests that they are working towards maybe this trilateral meeting sooner rather than later.

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Yeah, I think that it's distinctly possible that this could move faster than some of us were anticipating even a few days ago, which would be, which would be amazing. I mean, I really believe that this is a moment where you're seeing, I don't care what someone thinks of Trump, they should be rooting for success here. Amen. If someone cannot root for success in this, it means that they are so suffering from Trump derangement syndrome that they would rather go to sleep at night with a, in their mind, a Trump failure than go to sleep at night knowing that there'll be fewer Ukrainian and Russian young men getting their arms blown off by these drones and by artillery rounds.

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Buck Sexton (27:41)

All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. The biggest thing happening in the world right now is going on right in the White House. Trump sitting down with Zelensky. Let's join them live right now. Play it the other.

Donald Trump (27:52)

But all of these deals I made without even the mention of the words cease fire.

Clay Travis (28:02)

Decision to offer Ukraine Article 5 Like security guarantees, but stop short of pushing for their full membership.

Donald Trump (28:10)

Yeah, well, we haven't done anything on that yet if you look back and you go back long before President Putin, it was always a statement that they would never allow Ukraine into NATO. So that was a statement that was made. But we haven't discussed any of that yet. We're going to be discussing it today. But we will give them very good protection, very good security. That's part of it. And the people that are waiting for us, they are, I think they're very like minded. They want to, they want to help out also.

Buck Sexton (28:39)

Thank you, President. Thank you.

Clay Travis (28:41)

Thank you, President Trump. The United States President, the United States has already given hundreds of billions of dollars to this war effort in Ukraine. At best it is a stalemate and the killing continues. So President Trump, how much more is the United States willing to give Ukraine? And President Zelensky, how much more do you want?

Donald Trump (29:01)

Well, I'll start off just by saying we're not giving anything now, we're selling weapons. This is something before, I guess the number is well over $300 billion. That was under Joe Biden. A corrupt politician, not a smart man, never was by the way. Go back 40 years, years. He was not a smart man 40 years ago either. But now he's in particular bad. This was done by a corrupt administration that shouldn't have been in and of the, and frankly, if the right results of the election were given, if I were president, this war would have never taken place and he would have been very happy because he would have liked to have seen, I mean, they went through hell, he went through hell. This war would have never happened. And the people that were killed, a couple of million people, a lot of people with soldiers and everything else and the people that have been displaced and forced into other areas and other countries because of what's happened, none of that would have happened. And I'm just saying that he was a horrible president. Whether it was the borders or this, he was just a horrible, corrupt president.

Volodymyr Zelensky (30:09)

You want to understand, I can't think so much of the first of all, we have possibility now to buy weapons from the United States. We are thankful for this program and this opportunity. We are thankful for Europe, they pay for this. And through NATO program for and etc. We have some programs where we can have some money to finance this and this a part, I think it's not a part for the war and to defend us. It also will be a of part part for security guarantees to strengthen our army, to rearm Ukrainian army. This is very, very important and it depends how much money we need to rear. For example, the question of air Defense. We spoke about it with President Trump and I'm happy that we have now bilateral decisions and we work on it with production, American production. Nobody in Europe has so many air defense like Patriots, for example. We need it very much. And this is also about defending.

Donald Trump (31:11)

I think the good news, we make the best military equipment in the world by far. You mentioned the Patriots. How good are they systems? We have Systems. They're literally 100% foolproof. And it's really like shooting two bullets, you know, two bullets hitting each other in the air. In a space like this, the chances 100%. It's 99 to 100%. So we sell the equipment to NATO and NATO does what? I don't know what the arrangement is that you have with, but I know that they want you to have the equipment and we're getting the best equipment in the world, but they pay us for the equipment under Biden. It was just crazy what was going on. I believe the number is over 300. I think it's. It could be $350 billion worth of equipment and money and everything else. And we've made more progress in settling this war in the last two months than they made in four years. This should have been settled a long time ago, but it should have never happened. Yeah, please don't.

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Donald Trump (32:13)

Brian, go first. You pushed out on social media about doing away with mail in bouts and potentially electronic voting machines. Can you expand on that and how important? Well, that's a very off topic. Just really quickly. Mail in ballots are corrupt. Mail in ballots. You can never have a real democracy with mail in ballots. And we as a Republican Party are going to do everything possible that we get rid of mail in ballots. We're going to start with an executive order that's being written right now by the best lawyers in the country to end mail in ballots because they're corrupt. And do you know that we're the only country in the world. I believe I may be wrong, but just about the only country in the world that uses it because of what's happened. Massive fraud all over the place. The other thing we want change are the machines for all of the money they spend. It's approximately 10 times more expensive than paper ballots. And paper ballots are very sophisticated with the watermark paper and everything else, we would get secure elections. We'd get much faster results than we machines. I mean, they say we're going to have the results in two weeks with paper ballots. You have the results that night. Most people almost, but most people Many countries use paper ballots. It's the most secure form. So between paper ballots, very, very important paper ballots and I think maybe even more important, the mail in voting. We're going to end mail in voting. It's a fraud if you have mail in vote. Even Jimmy Carter with this commission, they set it up, he said, the one thing about mail in voting, you will never have an honest election if you have mail in. And it's time that the Republicans get tough and stop it. Because the Democrats want it. It's the only way they can get elected because with men and women, sports and with transgender for everybody and open borders and all of the horrible things. And now the new thing is they love crime. They're fighting me on the fact that I've made Washington D.C. safe. We're not going to get mugged, beaten up or killed. Like all the people you've been watching get so badly hurt. I'm glad, I hate to take your time with this, but I'm glad you asked me that question. We're going to stop mail in ballots because it's corrupt. You know when you go to a voting booth and you do it the right way and you go to a, a state that runs it properly, you go in. They even asked me, they asked me for my license plate for identify. I said, I don't know if I have it. They said, sir, you have to have it. I was very impressed, actually. But it's very hard to cheat with mail in voting, as you know what happens in California, it's so corrupt where some people get five, six, seven ballots delivered to them. We got to stop mail in voting. And the Republicans have to lead the charge. The Democrats want it because they have horrible policy. If you have mail in voting, you're not going to have many Democrats get elected. That's bigger than anything having to do with redistricting, believe me. And the Republicans have to get smart. We're not going to have a country. I said for a long time at rallies, you need borders and you need free and fair elections. Those two things. Otherwise you don't have. We have strong Borders now in 90 days, Mr. President, we didn't have 1003 months. Not one person came in illegally into our country. In fact, even I find that hard to believe. But it's run by a little bit of a liberal group that put out the numbers. So I guess it's but zero, zero and zero. You go back a year ago, two years ago, three millions of people poured into our country. It was terrible. Thank you very much.

Buck Sexton (35:56)

Do you need from President Trump to be able to make a deal? Is it American troops, intelligence equipment, what is it?

Volodymyr Zelensky (36:03)

Everything really. It includes two parts. First, strong Ukrainian army. That what I began to discuss with your colleagues. And it's a lot about weapon and people and training missions and intelligence. And second, we will discuss with our partners. It depends on big countries, on the United States, on a lot of our friends.

Buck Sexton (36:29)

And Mr. President, are you willing to commit American troops to that NATO like protection in order to get President Zelensky to a deal today?

Donald Trump (36:37)

Well, I don't know if you define it that way, but NATO like, I mean, we're going to give. We have people waiting in another room right now. They're all here from Europe, biggest people in Europe, and they want to give protection. They feel very strongly about it and we'll help them out with that. I think it's very important. I think it's very important to get the deal.

Buck Sexton (36:58)

You've been involved with the peacekeeping in.

Volodymyr Zelensky (37:01)

Ukraine since your first day in the administration.

Buck Sexton (37:04)

What would you say to the Ukrainian people right now who are suffering under the Russian attacks and hoping that the American people will stand with them?

Donald Trump (37:14)

Well, I know Ukrainian people. I've known many over the years. They're great people. They're smart, they're energetic. They love their country. I mean, they love their country. And we want to get this war ended. That's all I can do. I love the Ukrainian people, but I love all people. I love the Russian people. I love them all. I want to get the war stopped. Very important.

Buck Sexton (37:38)

Mr. President, was there any aspect of your discussion? All right, so I think we can jump in there. Just, I mean, that, that question, I think, was from Francesca Chambers, I think I couldn't really see.

Clay Travis (37:48)

But those last couple of questions, Buck, I think go to the crux of the issue. In fact, if I were in the White House, I would have just cut it out right there on that Trump answer, because I think it's a good one. He's trying to bring peace. He's not, he's not trying to pick sides.

Buck Sexton (38:04)

That stuff we know the stuff about what does a security guarantee look like? This is what I said before Trump was talking, before Trump said this. We were discussing this last hour, Clay. It's got to be if Russia breaks this new agreement, we're going to help blow up bad guy Russians. I don't know. I mean, that's kind of where it is. Everyone. I mean, this is really what the discussion is turning into, I think, to.

Clay Travis (38:28)

Your point, we have to have Basically, I don't see any solution other than a Korea like solution where you have a demilitarized zone where you basically have a impenetrable line of defense and you just have kind of this grudging agreement that there isn't going to be crossing. Now the challenge on this buck, as you well know, is we were talking about this off air. The drone technology is advancing so rapidly that having a traditional line of defense may not matter as much in the years ahead because you could basically send drone armies right over the top of these, you know, sort of entrenchments.

Buck Sexton (39:13)

This is why he was talking about Patriot missiles. Air defense is now a huge component of this. In the first World War you really just had to worry about artillery coming down on you from the sky. Yeah, there was the early Air Force stuff and even at one point I think they were dropping hand grenades out of planes. It was a very different thing in World War I. But Clay now it's going to be, you're going to have these trenches because remember, you have to protect against armor, you have to protect against missiles, you have to protect against drones and you have to against airstrikes from manned, manned aircraft as well. So there, it's a complicated multilayered defense are going to have to have. Stopping people on the ground to your point isn't enough because there's enough aerial assets that the Russians can bring to bear where they'll pummel whatever ground fortifications you have unless you have aerial defense set up as well. So the Patriot missiles, those are for bigger. The problem with Patriots, they're really expensive. They are very advanced weaponry, but they're very expensive. So you don't want to be shooting $50,000 drones out of the air with million dollar missiles. That's not a good, that's not a good plan. And industrial capacity is playing a huge role in this. How many drones of different types can the Russians churn out monthly and how many drones can the Ukrainians to take out the Russian drones and to defend themselves against Russian attacks on their front lines. And remember the Iranians, the Shahed drone is a, that's been a big thing in the Russian arsenal. So they've got allied countries that are giving them industrial output assistance. So this, this thing is, is a mess. It is a mess. And Trump is, you can just see it in his eyes too. He's. He just wants all this madness to stop. He wants this to end. And I think that he is by far clay the best chance we have of, of getting it to end. I don't know anybody else who could even be having this kind of a trilateral or I should say hopefully what will be a trilateral sit down when we get Russia and Ukraine in the same place. Cyberhackers make their money by stealing identities and setting up accounts, pretending to be somebody else, somebody like you, and then they are able to just run wild online, take out loans in your name, credit cards, all kinds of stuff. It's a mess. It can happen to absolutely anyone. And you know what they do. You might think, oh well, I won't fall victim to a phishing attack. Although those can be very sophisticated. They get into customer databases. So it's not even you could be perfect online and your data could be breached because of what some other company, some other entity has done. This is why you just need to have lifelock. I've had Lifelock for years. It is simply your best defense online. And if you do become a victim of identity theft and you're a Lifelock member, you can rely on a dedicated US based restoration specialist who will work with you to fix it. Guaranteed or your money back. Become a Lifelock member if you're not already Join now and save 40% off your first year with promo code Buck call 1-800-lifelock or go online to lifelock.com and use My Name Buck as your promo code for 40% off terms apply.

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Donald Trump (48:34)

Could that involve U.S. troops?

Buck Sexton (48:35)

Would you rule that out in the.

Donald Trump (48:36)

Future and we'll let you know that maybe later today. We're meeting with seven great leaders of great countries also and we'll be talking about that. They'll all be involved but there'll be a lot of there'll be a Lot of help. When it comes to security, there's going to be a lot of help. It's going to be good. They are first line of defense because they're there. They're Europe. But we're going to help them out also. We'll be involved.

Clay Travis (49:02)

Buck, this feels to me, and you tell me where I'm missing here, but basically every NATO country commits troops, but they don't call it. Naito is, am I crazy or does that feel a little bit like what we're tiptoeing up to?

Buck Sexton (49:17)

Well, yes, but this is also where I think Putin is going to be really prickly. And I, I, so I don't know if this means that there can be a deal. That's, that's the, this may be a red line where Putin's like, you know what? If you guys are going to even talk about doing that, I'm not going to even take the step. I'm just going to keep going. I'm going to keep going and see if you're going to call my, you know, not really call my bluff, but if you're going to try to, you know, counteract me, let's get back into this. Because the security guarantee thing, also given where a lot of the Trump base, a lot of the MAGA base has been on this issue, the notion of U.S. troops in any form guaranteeing Ukraine's security is going to be complicated, I'll put it that way. We'll talk more about this here. We've got some guests actually coming up moment voluntarily. So we'll dive into this with them. And also Crockett coffee. Over mountain Club mug. Look at that. It is so cool. Over mountain men. Those who joined to fight the British. We celebrate American history, all kinds of cool stories. Crockett Coffee.com 10% of the profits goes to tunnel the towers. If you're drinking coffee, which I know so many of you are, why are you not drinking Crockett coffee? I cannot even think of an answer. Don't drink that communist swill. You know what Putin wants you to drink? Whatever coffee you're drinking. You know what the good guys want you to drink. Crockett. Go to crockett coffee.com, sign up, subscribe, and we'll dive into more security and what's going on here coming up. And we've got this summit that is happening before our eyes here in the White House. And it's a big deal, so stick around.

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