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Clay Travis
Let's dive into some of this, shall we? So President Trump spoke about a few things this morning. Talking to reporters, we heard him say that, you know, Comey lied, lied, lied. There's a lot of that. Few other things that he got into as well. For example, on the shutdown issue, I want to talk about this. Is the government going to shut down? Probably not. If it does shut down, it won't be shut down for very long. Generally, these shutdown talks end up being something along the lines of a political food fight. And then there's some kind of agreement last minute, and they keep the government going. Maybe this time is different, but this morning, Trump spoke to reporters about it. This is cut one, and I think everybody should hear what Democrats are drawing a hard line in the sand on play one.
Donald Trump
Everything's going good. We're respected by every nation in the world. And you know what happened. The Democrats want to shut it down. And they want to shut it down because they want to give billions, ultimately trillions of dollars to illegal migrants, people that came into our country illegally. Some of those people are criminal, but they came into our country illegally and they want to give them the essential over years, trillions of dollars. And our people aren't going to stand for it. They also want to have open borders. They want to have men and women's sports. They want to have transgender for everybody. These people are crazy. The Democrats. So if it has to sh. Have to shut down, but they're the ones that are shutting down.
Clay Travis
Clay, this is, this is a very important issue because this is where Democrats, I think, once again, are going to be exposed. The issue that he's talking about here has to do with the funding of Obamacare. Obamacare subsidies health care in general and how much money is going to illegal immigrants who are not. We were promised, if everyone recalls, not supposed to get any federal funding at all for healthcare, because then it's quite clear this would be us providing healthcare to the rest of the world. I mean, at that point, it should just be, you want to fly here from Bangladesh, you want to fly here from, from Bolivia and just countries that start with B. We'll get your, you know, you'll get your heart, you'll get your heart transplant, you'll get whatever you need here and the taxpayers in the hook for it. Meanwhile, Americans have seen their health care costs. Your premiums have doubled and your. And your care is actually no better. If anything, it has gotten worse. Obamacare is a straight up failure, but the Democrats want. It's a failure at everything other than telling people they are covered as a ruse to get them to subsidize everybody else's health care while theirs gets more expensive and worse. So there's Affordable Care act subsidies set to expire at the end of this year. And Republicans are saying that, look, we gotta look at where this money's actually going. The more people look at this and pay attention, Clay, the more they'll see if you feel like you're paying too much, everyone for mortgages, for gas, for food, for whatever, everything's gotten more expensive for your own healthcare. Oh, you're subsidizing millions of illegals as well, by the way. And when you look at this, when you dig into the numbers, that becomes even more clear.
Buck Sexton
Even no matter what your politics are, health care is broken. And Obamacare broke health care worse than it was already broken. And I've got so many thoughts on this. We've talked about it. You just had a baby, Buck. Your wife Carrie did. This is when I was just done with healthcare, when we were having our first son. I wanted to know what it was gonna cost, as one does to have a. To have a baby. And we went around and toured, as probably many of you have done, a variety of different places. You know, delivery hospitals, probably not the correct phrase for it, but the places where you go to have a baby, this is one of the things that you could choose, right? You're not. It's not emergency room care. It's not, oh, my goodness, we gotta get in an ambulance. It is. Okay, we know the baby's coming. Let's go. We'll go tour all of these different hospitals and we'll all check out, and my wife's gonna pick out where she wants to go at every one of them. I said, what is the baby going to cost? None of them could tell me. They don't compete at all on price. They compete on bamboo floors and wifi and what the reception area is going to be like and what kind of meals they have, but they don't tell you what any of it cost. How many other things in life do you have where you. You don't go to a. Buy a car and go tour a car lot and say, okay, well, what's the Rolls Royce cost? But maybe I want to get a used SUV instead of the Rolls Royce. To me, the reason why health care is broken is because there's almost no market based component to it, even when it is health care by choice, not health care by emergency. So that's me on the soapbox. And really, that was the first time where I just couldn't get over the fact that none of these hospitals could give me any idea what having a baby was going to cost. There Because I would have potentially, I'm not going to risk my family's health over it. But if one of them, if they're otherwise relatively equal and one of them is going to cost me $10,000 more than another, then I would save the $10,000. Right? They couldn't tell me. And the reason they couldn't tell me is, is because insurance is so broken they have no idea. And it might cost more or less. Here's another story for you on that front, Buck. As dads probably out there may well not along, I am not the best at getting our kids in for any health care appointment. I often screw things up. I can't remember where my insurance card is. We had two kids get strep throat. Happens. You're going to find this out, Buck. When you get multiple kids, one kid gets sick. Basically it just runs through the whole family. Everybody ends up getting sick. So we had simultaneously two different kids that ended up with strep throat. My wife took the first kid, went to the clinic, Vanderbilt University walk in clinic, sponsored whatever it is, relatively close to our home, got the strep throat diagnosis, got the treatment. A day or two later, another kid comes down with it. Dad's now in charge. So she presented accurately, as moms often do. Here is our insurance card. Here are all the details associated with what you need in order to treat this child. I showed up, I'm like, I, I don't know where my healthcare card is. I'm not sure exactly, you know, who our healthcare provider is. I am frankly, like many dads, a moron on all this stuff. Took him in. He also has strep throat, gave him the test, we got billed and my wife could gives you the exact dollar specifics on this. Somehow I was classified as without health insurance at Vanderbilt because I was a moron. And I couldn't figure out where the health insurance card is and I couldn't even figure out who our health insurer was. It cost nothing virtually, Buck. My wife got the bill, it was like 20 bucks. The kid with health insurance cost hundreds of dollars. And my wife said, wait a minute, these are within the same day, basically within a couple of days of each other, within 48 hours, trips to the exact same clinic. My husband went in, couldn't remember where his healthcare card was, basically had to pay nothing. We're having to pay hundreds of dollars for this other visit. How is that possible? She got on the phone with the hospital insurance adjuster, everybody else, eventually the hospital said, yeah, when you don't have health Insurance, we don't charge you very much for health care. But she said, well, wait a minute, that means that you're overcharging everybody who does have health insurance a massive amount to subsidize the people without health insurance. And they were like, yeah, that's just what we do here. So you're actually better off in this particular location being a moron like I was and just going in and basically saying you don't have health insurance and you pay like $20 or you pay hundreds of dollars if you actually have health insurance. The market is broken.
Clay Travis
Well, you, you say it's broken, it's broken. If you believe that it should be a market, it's functioning the way that the Democrats want it to insofar as you're paying for everybody else, including illegals, I might add, illegals who use emergency rooms as frontline day to day medical care cannot be turned away and will not be charged. Will not be.
Buck Sexton
And it's why you, it's why you have to wait hours. If you ever go to an emergency room and you actually have an emergency, you're probably going to sit there forever. And anyway, I think that's broken also, Buck, nobody cares about government shutdowns anymore. We're just over it. I'm sorry. The idea that they tried, the political media tries to gin up. Oh, this is a huge story. Oh, my goodness. Spoiler alert. Here's how it's going to end. We're going to go further in debt and they're going to eventually reach a conclusion.
Clay Travis
So here's one little interesting addition to the usual shutdown talk. One is if Democrats find themselves in a place where the people of this country figure out that this really is about just a massive slush fund, that is our health care system that is going to, they say it doesn't go to illegals. It does. A lot of it does go to illegals, by the way. That's, that's one part of this. Another part of this, though, Clay, is that there may be layoffs. If the government shuts down after October 1st, that may be a moment of opportunity to do more of the federal government cuts that the administration has wanted to do all along. In essence, one of the problems that they've run into in the post doge advisory era is if Congress has funded these jobs, can they still get rid of these jobs? If Congress has said no, we're funding the following government jobs, can the executive branch, you know, this has been a back and forth and they're, you know, the courts are involved. Well, if the money runs out for the job, why can't the executive branch cut the. Cut the job? Because there's no money for the job anymore. Right. That. So there is this possibility that it will open up, I think a, a jobs cutting moment in time for the federal bureaucracy, which, which could I think be interesting as well. But overall, this is once again going to result in the government will. Will be fun. Here you go. This is Trump yesterday said this, this is cut 33. He's making it very clear what he thinks is at the, at the core of the issue or at the core of the shutdown fight right now. Play 33.
Donald Trump
Well, this is all caused by the Democrats. They asked us to do something that's totally unreasonable. They never change. They want to give money away to illegals, illeg people that entered our country illegally. They want to give a massive federal money and we don't want to do that because it means everyone's going to just keep pouring back. Right now we have absolutely perfect borders like you haven't seen in many years. Even better than the. I had great borders during my four years, but these borders are stone cold flows. You can only come into our country legally now. But the Democrats want to give it all away. They want to also. They want to open up the borders. Take a look at that big thing. They want to open borders again. After what we're going through through now, getting rid of prisoners, getting rid of all of these people, dropped out from mental institutions, drug dealers, drug addicts, everything that they're putting everybody into our country. It's all ended now. But this is what Schumer wants. This is what the Democrats want.
Clay Travis
Clay, one difference as well in the shutdown debate, nobody on the other side can match Trump when it comes to the megaphone. And so he's able to get. He's pounding these messages in a way that Chuck Schumer is not able to counter.
Buck Sexton
I think that's true. And again, I just come back to. I don't think anybody cares. The, the overall shutdown dynamic. Eventually there is going to be some form of resolution. I don't. I usually. You're the cynic here. I'll be the cynic. Cynic. And we're going to end up spending way more money than we should.
Jack Ciattarelli
And.
Buck Sexton
And they're just going to keep right on rolling along.
Clay Travis
Well, that. That is all. The government's going to keep spending too much money. That's all for sure. And that's baked into it. And everyone all of a sudden going to Wake up and be like, I too am with Rand Paul and we should go to pre Covid spending. It would be nice. That's not going to happen. But this is a, you know, there's the highlighting of these issues where people can. Clay, if between now and September 1st, a lot of Americans figure out that the Democrats are hell bent on keeping funding for illegal health care for illegals to get health care. We got an election in a year. You know, I think that these things can be important.
Buck Sexton
They're totally wrong on and, and look.
Clay Travis
I think Trump is forcing them to, to, to, to defend issues where they're getting hammered is the point.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, and, and again, I think it just comes back to. I think 100% of Americans believe that health care is 100% broken in this country. And so the idea that we are spending any money on non Americans is a really difficult argument.
Clay Travis
This is, this is where you and I see this a little differently. I think people have no idea when you say it's broken. Yeah, that's true. But it's like saying our immigration system is broken. The Democrats have broken it for a reason, on purpose to do things. And so people need to understand, like you just laid out what you just talked about, Clay, where the, you can't find out the pricing and everything else. Democrats like Schumer want that so that 10 million plus illegals, 30 million that are here in the country have their healthcare paid for.
Buck Sexton
Well, yes. I just think they don't understand basic economics. They think that everything should be free. And honestly, the fact that I could, I could do weeks on this because how about the idea that we've created this idea that health care should be paid for by employers?
Clay Travis
Well, the whole thing doesn't make sense. There's this huge, huge problems with it. But the more people realize that your super expensive premiums, look at what they are now, look at what they were 10 years ago and that's if you've got nice health care, you know, from your employer, never mind if you're in like one of these Obamacare pools for the individuals, look at what it costs you look at your access to your actual ability to get health care and understand that it's so that people that have arrived here in the last year can, you know, get free health care. Basically that's one of the big drivers of the spikes in cost that we have seen in recent years. One of the better products we've come across in a long time, innovative, super useful, super important for preparedness. Rapid radio walkie talkies comes out of Michigan. My friends. These are the modern day versions of the push to talk walkie talkies you all know from when we were growing up and you've seen those around. But these are anything but kid toys. They're easy enough for kids to operate them but man, they've got some exciting tech and some great use cases. They work on nationwide LTE networks. So these handheld rapid radios are super easy to use, but you can talk to anyone anywhere across the country. We're talking about being able to speak with the push of a button to aging parents thousands of miles away. And they'll come in really handy if you've got cell phone service interruptions, power outages, things like that, where you need to be able to switch to whatever network is available. Rapid radios are there for you. No monthly fees. Pre programmed simplicity. Rapid radios keep you connected when everything else goes dark. Trusted, tested, legit. Go to rapidradios.com you'll save 60% when you go to that website today. That's rapidradios.com make sure you use promo code radio to get an extra 5% off rapidradios.com promo code radio stories of.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. One of the big elections that is going to be determined in this November cycle is who's going to be the governor of New Jersey, the Garden State, a place near and dear to my heart as a lifelong New Yorker. It's like our close cousin next door. I feel like I, I'm like an honorary New Jersey and in so many ways. And we've got, we've got the man who is trying to make sure that it does not fall deep into communist hands. Jack Cittarelli is with us now. He is the Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey. Jack, appreciate you being with us.
Jack Ciattarelli
Thank you for the time, guys. Looking forward to it.
Clay Travis
Look, you had a great run back in 2021, just a few points from beating Phil Murphy. And you know, we were talking about it then. We were giving you the high five. I know, I know it was too much to ask in that cycle to pull it off, but you came very close. It was a, it was a heroic finish nonetheless, this time around. Mr. Jack, I'm seeing polls with you dead even, maybe even a couple points ahead. Can you pull it off? What need, what do we need to know about this race that is a.
Jack Ciattarelli
Dead heat right now. And that's really good news for Republican. I mean, we are the minority party in this state, but we're gonna continue to get out there over the last 39 days, make it happen. And when you see Democratic mayors across the state endorsing my candidacy, I think it only reaffirms that people across the state have had it with Bill Murphy sale policies and they know that my opponent is Murphy 2.0.
Buck Sexton
What should people who want you to win? We've got a big audience all over New Jersey. What should they know to do? What should they know about when early voting starts, how to donate? Give us your pitch right now. You said I think 39 days out. What needs to happen in the next 39 days? What should people listening to us right now do to support you?
Jack Ciattarelli
The vote by mail ballots have already been mailed. They went out last week. So if you're a vote by mail it, vote by mail ballot voter, we want you to get that in. There'll be nine days of early voting leading up to election day and then of course, Tuesday the 4th. But what differentiates me from my opponent is Cheddar Ellis have been here for 100 years and three generations of cheddar rally have all been business owners and created jobs right here in New Jersey. My opponent hasn't been here all that long and she spent half the time she's been here in the Congress. And during that time, she tripled her net worth and broke federal law on stock trades and stock reporting for congresspeople.
Clay Travis
Now, what would you. Let's, let's. Before we get into what she would do other than apparently make a lot of money in the stock market on some defense stocks that she doesn't remember, you know, it's 7 million here, 7 million there. I mean, that's, that seems like it's.
Buck Sexton
When Charlemagne, the God to buck's point can ask her, how did you make $7 million? And she says, I don't know, basically, or she had no idea how she. I think that's pretty tough for most New Jerseyans out there to say. I, you know, I think I'd know If I made $7 million.
Jack Ciattarelli
It's a disqualifier. Who wouldn't know if their net worth had tripled in such a short period of time. Who wouldn't know where an additional $7 million came from. Here's what we do know. She broke federal law and had to pay fines for it. As a congressperson. Well, here's what else is nothing. We know the New York Times reports that while she was sitting on the House Armed Services Committee, she was trading defense stocks. I mean, this really calls into question her character, as does the stunning revelation of yesterday that she didn't participate in the graduation ceremonies at the Naval Academy.
Buck Sexton
Back in 1994, we saw that story about the Naval Academy and we talked about it yesterday with our friend Ryan Gardusky. What is that story? I think it was from 1994. And why does it matter? And to you, how does it connect to her today?
Jack Ciattarelli
She's built her entire political brand around the fact that she attended the Naval Academy, but she hasn't been transparent with us. The Naval Academy punished her and we Believe it's for lying. And, and so she did not get to participate in her graduation ceremonies. She can clear this all up by approving the release of her disciplinary records. She's not doing that. And I think that tells us a whole lot. She, and for her to say that, what she's been saying out there in the public, I think it's code for having lied to the investigators. Quite frankly. She's saying that she covered for her friends who did cheat. I think that's code for lying to investigators.
Clay Travis
Now we got a lot of wor, which is our New York City based affiliate. Obviously that signal is huge all across, particularly the northern half of the garden. It reaches well beyond that. We have a lot of listeners who are commuters into New York City who listen on W or Jack. And, and so they're very interested to know what are you going to do if you become governor? To make what is a. I'm from, I'm from Manhattan. So we like to make, you know, the occasional give a little ribbing to New Jersey. But I love New Jersey. It is a great state, beautiful state, a lot of things going for it. What are you going to do to take New Jersey to the next level? Either problems to fix or just things to focus on in the future if you are in fact able to pull off this, this very, very photo finish governor's race.
Jack Ciattarelli
We are going to pull it off and there's a number of things we're going to do, including those things on day one. Here's one thing I'm never going to do is lie to the people of New Jersey. This laughable, illegitimate, not feasible plan that she's put forth to declare a state of emergency to freeze our electricity rates. Why would we want to freeze them at an all time high? We want to lower them. I could do that on day one by pulling out of the regional greenhouse gas initiative. This is a carbon tax policy that's been in place since Murphy took office. The air is no cleaner. Electricity has skyrocketed and ratepayer dollars are going to other states. I could save half a billion dollars a year in ratepayers dollars, homeowners, tenants and businesses. We need to get our electricity rates down. Also on day one, I'll end the immigrant trust directive. We'll no longer have sanctuary cities and we will not be a sanctuary state. Also on day one, I'll give us an attorney general that supports both police and parents. The current attorney general does not.
Buck Sexton
You lost, as we said, very close race in 2021. Trump lost a very close race in New Jersey. I think it came down to basically five points. The Trump team said, hey, if we had had the money Kamala had, we could have poured it in. We might have been able to win New Jersey. Why is New Jersey moving red? And why do you think now is the time when you're going to kick the door down and win this, this race here in 39 days?
Jack Ciattarelli
It's all because Phil Murphy's policies have failed across the board. Taxes up every year since he took office. Spending up 70%. When he took over, the state budget was 36 billion. It's now 59 billion. 70% increase. Housing, we've got an overdevelopment crisis going on in our suburban communities. Public education, we slipped from 2 to 12 on the national report card with all the learning loss in the post pandemic world because he shut down the schools for two years. Law enforcement, nonviolent crime has spiked. Break ins, car thefts, flash mobs on the Jersey shore and at our malls.
Buck Sexton
Why?
Jack Ciattarelli
Because his attorney general's handcuffed our local police. These are the issues and they represent policy failures of the past seven plus years. And my opponent has endorsed every one of these policies. In fact, in some cases, like the wind farms, she's doubled down.
Clay Travis
It's remarkable to see how. I think there was a clip already circulating, Jack, of Mikey Sherrill saying your opponent, that she can't even commit to not raising taxes on the middle class like she's. Tax raises are on the table all across the board, from what I can understand. Which for your. Your state. State is already pretty heavily taxed state from what I understand. I mean, I was living in New York City where it's completely insane. But New Jersey taxes under Murphy have been rough.
Jack Ciattarelli
This was an astonishing moment at the debate. She's been lyingly, lying blatantly about me raising the sales tax to 10%. And yet at the debate, when I was asked, I said, the sales tax is not going to be increased. I will lower property taxes, I will lower income taxes. I gave specific ways on how I'm going to do that in a very fiscally responsible way. They then asked her the same question and she said, I'm not going to commit to anything. So wait a second, you're lying about me raising taxes? And then when you're asked whether or not you're raised taxes, your answer is, I'm not going to commit to anything.
Buck Sexton
When I travel around. And I know this has been an issue in New Jersey too. It doesn't matter where you're from. A lot of people see men and women's sports as a clarifying, crystallizing issue. I know it's a big point down in Virginia, but a lot of moms and dads in New Jersey are fed up with the cultural ridiculousness of the Democrat Party. Do you feel that even having accelerated since you last ran in 2021, parents.
Jack Ciattarelli
Are very upset about a number of these far Left liberal policies. Policy. 5,756 school districts keeping secrets from parents. We're going to stop that on day one. Our children are best off when our school districts and parents work in partnership. Biological boys playing in girls sports. That's one of those 8020 issues in New Jersey. More than 8 out of 10 people don't agree with that. And so these are the policies, the LGBTQ curriculum in our public schools. My opponent has said she will not let parents opt their kids out of that lesson. I mean, these are 8020 issues. But again, she's not from New Jersey. She's out of touch, she's tone deaf. It's just another reason why we're going to win this race.
Clay Travis
Now, what is the. To the degree you can speak to this, I know you got a big state, millions and millions of residents, but some of the.
Buck Sexton
The.
Clay Travis
What's the profile would you say of the late breaking voter at this point? Is it independents that are going to be the difference maker? Is it Democrats defecting from the high taxes and some of the other policy matters we've talked about? I mean, who's going to be the deciding cohort in your home state if in fact we're able to see you get across the finish line with a W For sure.
Jack Ciattarelli
Moderate Democrats and unaffiliated slash independent voters, the ones that are still undecided. And I really do believe that after eight years of Phil Murphy's policies and us going around the state the way we do, offering specific, responsible, thoughtful proposals on how to fix New Jersey, at the end of the day, we're going to win this race.
Buck Sexton
Are you? Here's the final question for you, Jack. This is important and you may want to dodge it. Are you a Yankees Mets guy? Are you a Jets, Giants guy? Who are your teams? Because I know there are a lot of people out there and the Ryder Cups going on. I even said to my team, I'm a little bit surprised he's not there with the president right now rooting on Team usa because I bet there's a lot of New Jersey guys and gals that are out at at the golf course right now as well.
Jack Ciattarelli
Well, I'm a Yankees guy and they frustrated us a whole lot over the summer. But this veterans team is rising to the occasion when it counts most. And here we are with only three games left and they're tied to for first. Go.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, there you go, Governor, I hope. Good luck. We're going to help put you in the governor's office. If everybody out there listening right now gets their votes in and works as hard as they can for you one last time here as you go to break. Where should people go if they want to offer you support?
Jack Ciattarelli
Jack4nj.com and that's the number four jack4nj.com I greatly appreciate that.
Buck Sexton
Good luck, sir. That is Jack.
Clay Travis
Bring home the W. Jack.
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We need the dub every day.
Buck Sexton
We're happy to have you on anytime down the stretch run here. We can help out. But again, everybody check that out. Get your votes in. New Jersey is in play and Jack Cittarelli needs to get the win for all of you. All right, speaking of getting the win, I just got an email. Buck, you got it too. One of our guys out there said, hey, thanks for talking up Good Ranchers. I'm on my fourth box and I absolutely love them. Just came in from the vip. A lot of different things coming in from the vip. I'll hit a few of those here in the next segment as we try to react to a lot of what you guys are saying on Friday. But I love Good Ranchers because I've gotten to know Ben and Corley, the founders of Good Ranchers. They got four young kids and they wanted to feed their family healthy foods. Ben can hit a golf ball pretty good himself too. I've been out on the course with him. He could stripe it pretty well and.
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But he's got access to very high quality protein. This is not a.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Our thanks to hopefully the next governor of New Jersey, Jack Cittarelli. Also gonna take a little victory lap there. I don't think I got us an FCC violation on the pronunciation of his name at least today. And he was great. We got emails rolling in. We're gonna get to a couple of your calls. Final hour next of the week. Byron Donalds, who hopes to be the next governor of Florida is gonna join us at the bottom of the next hour. He's the only guest in the third hour. We'll take some of your calls and reactions. Here's some emails. Buck, this came directly to me. Karen says for 50 years. And I wish I could do her voice because I bet it's a good one. For 50 years I've lived through government shutdown threats, all caps never happened with consequences. The stock market never crashed, schools never closed, paychecks, Social Security, government funded medical aid, grocery stores, oil, gas production. My life never ended, period. You're right. Food fights in middle school. That is an email from Karen.
Clay Travis
Karen nailed it. Honestly, I think she gets the vibe.
Buck Sexton
She knows Karen. All caps, food fights at middle schools. And then underneath her name it says, beware, I no longer have filters. Which I'm assuming goes on every one of her emails that she sends, which is really, really funny. Marlene, Marlene writes in and says Jimmy Kimmel said you supported his comments on the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Can you please confirm? Thank you, Marlene. Loyal listener. I should have said in a previous email, please confirm or hopefully deny. No, he did not say that. I would just say this in general. And I have to say this to my kids. Don't listen to the show if you're like that doesn't sound like something Clay would say. I probably didn't say it. And someone else is Telling you that I did say it. I would say that for Buck, too. Now, sometimes you might hear it. You might be like, yeah, that sounds like something Clay would say. But no, all I said was, hey, I don't like the idea of people losing their jobs over comments. And I said, if you didn't stand up for Roseanne and you didn't stand up for Gina Carano, then I don't want to hear you standing up for Jimmy Kimmel. So be consistent or inconsistent. We got some calls. Matt in Denver. Matt, what you got for us?
Jack Ciattarelli
Hey, guys. Yeah. I don't know if you had it on your plate to open this topic up, but what about a plea deal? I mean, do you think they would. They could propose to call me. Hey, you. You walk. No harm, no foul. But we want the big fish. We want.
Clay Travis
No.
Buck Sexton
Smart question, but it's a very good question.
Clay Travis
But I think it's almost certainly the case. Comey is. There's no way he would. There's no way he would not take this to trial because he thinks that he can win. And also, he will not admit guilt in this matter because more than anything else, I think for Comey, this. This is almost a. For sancta Comey, it's an ego issue as much as it is a legal issue issue or a legacy and reputational issue. So he will. I. I do not think there is any chance because he's not facing a lot of time anyway, and he thinks he's got a good shot. Clay, do you agree with this? I think there's almost no chance that he would admit to a felony, even if it meant that he would 100% walk. Not a day in prison.
Buck Sexton
I'm not sure who he would give up. I. You know, in. In other words, the. Generally, when you get somebody who's a.
Clay Travis
Small, he wouldn't have to give up a bit bigger fish. He could just. A lot of most plea deals are just admit you're guilty and we'll give you a lighter sentence. So he could do that.
Buck Sexton
No, I think he thinks he will beat these charges, and I think deep down he loves the fact that he was charged because it plays into his entire persecution hero complex.
Clay Travis
I think he likes the attention at some level. Honestly. Honestly, that's who James Comey is.
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Episode: Hour 2 – Trump Blames Democrats for Shutdown
Date: September 26, 2025
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In this hour, Clay and Buck focus on the looming federal government shutdown, putting the spotlight on Donald Trump’s comments blaming Democrats for the situation. The discussion pivots around the political maneuvering over funding for healthcare—especially for illegal immigrants—Obamacare, border security, and the broader ongoing dysfunction of the U.S. healthcare system. Later in the episode, Jack Ciattarelli, Republican candidate for Governor of New Jersey, joins to discuss his campaign and New Jersey’s key political issues. Listener interaction and calls round out the hour, reinforcing skepticism about shutdown drama and offering political analysis.
Timestamps: 02:35–04:07, 14:11–15:11
“The Democrats want to shut it down because they want to give billions, ultimately trillions of dollars to illegal migrants... It's crazy, the Democrats. So if it has to shut down, it has to shut down, but they're the ones that are shutting down.”
Timestamps: 04:07–11:42
“It's broken… if you believe that it should be a market, it's functioning the way that the Democrats want: you're paying for everybody else, including illegals…”
Timestamps: 12:02–12:30, 15:11–16:36
“I don't think anybody cares. The overall shutdown dynamic... eventually there is going to be some form of resolution... we're going to end up spending way more money than we should.”
Timestamps: 15:11–16:51
Timestamps: 17:20–17:38
“They want to give money away to illegals... They want to give a massive federal money and we don't want to do that because it means everyone's going to just keep pouring back.” (14:11)
"Obamacare is a straight up failure, but the Democrats... use it as a ruse to get them to subsidize everybody else's healthcare while theirs gets more expensive and worse.” (05:50)
“The idea that they tried—the political media tries to gin up—oh, this is a huge story. Oh, my goodness. Spoiler alert: Here's how it's going to end. We're going to go further in debt and they're going to eventually reach a conclusion.” (12:02)
“You don't go to a—buy a car and go tour a car lot and say, ‘Okay, what's the Rolls Royce cost?’... The reason healthcare is broken is because there's almost no market-based component to it.” (06:45)
“Well, that's all—the government's going to keep spending too much money. That's all for sure. That's baked into it.” (15:49)
Timestamps: 24:14–35:47
“On day one, I'll end the immigrant trust directive. We'll no longer have sanctuary cities and we will not be a sanctuary state.”
Timestamps: 40:54–44:31
“For 50 years I've lived through government shutdown threats... My life never ended, period. You're right. Food fights in middle school.”
This episode offers an in-depth, conservative perspective on the government shutdown fight—framing it as a conflict over taxpayer-funded healthcare for illegal immigrants and broader dysfunction engineered by Democrats. Through interviews, anecdotes, and listener engagement, Clay and Buck drive home their distrust of government spending, skepticism toward media hysteria, and support for candidates like Jack Ciattarelli promising to cut taxes, challenge progressive policies, and restore law and order at the state level.