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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Leon Nafak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre.
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Caller
And insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Leon Nafak
To hear the whole story, listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Second hour of clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks for being here with us, everybody. Want to get to a lot of your talkbacks and calls later on this hour, so light up those lines as we make our way through the news of the day. And also the talkbacks. We love your talkbacks. We hear all of them. We play as many as we can. But go to the Clay and Buck page on the iHeartRadio app, which is also where you can listen to our great podcast network. And you send us basically a voicemail, a little microphone. That's something that we've lost as well. The whole world has lost it. The coming home from the office or whatever and having, you know, you have seven messages. You know, it's like, so this is.
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Buck Sexton
A little bit of a used to be super exciting. You didn't know it was blinking. You're like, hey, who was this? And now it never happens.
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Clay Travis
It was invariably like a bill collector or something. And you're like, this is sad, you know, you know, mail, actual physical mail, has just turned into a point of anxiety for me with the exception of now the baby's born. We got a lot of gifts from so many people. Is very kind. We appreciate that. But the mail that goes into your mailbox, it's never good. It's never anything that I want really. It's always just garbage. You know, it belongs a la Poo Belle.
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Buck Sexton
So I'm old enough to remember Buck. I don't know if there was something that would come in the mail that you were super excited to get back in the day. For me, Sports Illustrated I want like who was going to be on the COVID which issue?
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Clay Travis
Which issue, Clay?
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Buck Sexton
The swimsuit issue, of course, was a was a was a hot point in February when it would come out.
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Clay Travis
That got banned at my high school.
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Buck Sexton
So did they wouldn't allow it. Just a particular one.
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Clay Travis
Not allowed to have. Of course, you could have the one with like Barry Bonds on the COVID but.
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Buck Sexton
Right, right, right. You were not allowed to have.
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Clay Travis
Yep. The dean. They had to do a special announcement. No Maxim, no stuff. No. No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit, you know, edition A little totalitarian. I was kind of living in North Korea for a while there, Clay. Except it was Jesuits instead of the Kim family.
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Buck Sexton
I 1980s, early 1990s, pre Internet. The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue was absolutely iconic. And I know there's a lot of people out there listening right now that remember that very well. You'd be you were super excited to go down and get it. But every week, leave aside the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue, who was on the COVID used to be a monster deal. One of your favorite players, one of your favorite teams. You couldn't wait to see who was going to be the COVID of Sports. I don't even know how many times they published Sports Illustrated now. You know, I looked into trying to to buy it when they we kicked the tires on that company and what it was going to cost. But it's not a very good business right now.
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Clay Travis
So back to our Talk Back. Send us the talkbacks on whatever you want today. And the best ones are the most insightful or funniest. We'll play them for you in the back of this hour. Back in the next hour.
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Buck Sexton
Okay.
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Clay Travis
We talked first hour about this. I think this is very interesting. First of all, as you know, beginnings of a trade deal framework with China market rallying, hostage return from Hamas today. A lot of wins, right? A lot of wins. But a story that Trump has also put into the news cycle here has to do with the resettling of some refugees from South Africa. Now, the administration had spoken about this before Trump signed an EO on this. And it's very interesting to see the objections to this. I want to spend a little time on this clay because I think this is a fascinating issue. And let me just tell you, first off, I think 50 of them have been. Are in the process. 5,050OK. Are in the process of being resettled. I think, you know, we've seen that guy tied to ms.13. He had like 8 people in the car when the cops pulled them aside. Abrego Garcia. And they were saying that the police said they believed that he was a human trafficker. 50 people is not a lot of people. But the media's very, very iffy on this, very concerned about this. A lot of questions. All of a sudden, after 10 plus million people piled into the country falsely claiming by the numbers, go look at the court cases. Over 90% of them not actually worth or, you know, should not get asylum, not actually people deserving of asylum. Fifty South Africans show up and there's a problem with this because they're white. And you say, you sit here, you go a whole lot of. So is our policy that you can't be a white refugee. That certainly would have been news to a lot of Ashkenazi Jews during the Second World War. Like you can't be a white refugee. This is Trump speaking about this play 25.
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Caller
Now. South Africa leadership is coming to see me. I understand, sometime next week. And, you know, we're supposed to have a, I guess a G20 meeting there or something, but we're having a G20 meeting. I don't know how we can go unless that situation's taken care of. But it's a genocide that's taking place that you people don't want to write about. But it's a terrible thing that's taking place. And farmers are being killed. They happen to be white, but whether they're white or black makes no difference to me. But white farmers are being brutally killed and their land is being confiscated in South Africa. And the newspapers and the media, television media doesn't even talk about it. If it were the other way around, they'd talk about it. That would be the only story they talk about. I don't care who they are. I don't care about their race, their color. I don't care about their height, their weight. I don't care about anything. I just know that what's happening is terrible. I have people that live in South Africa. They say it's a terrible situation taking place. So we've essentially extended citizenship to those people.
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Clay Travis
Clay, the media has generally written more skeptical and even critical coverage of 50 white South. 50 white South Africans being resettled in this country under. Under refugee status than they did for four years of Biden, with 10 plus million illegals being cartel human trafficked across the border. What is going on? I think we. I mean, I think we know what's going on totally.
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Buck Sexton
And look, this, this goes into. We talked about what an incredible weekend Trump had in so many different positive results. And we should mention, basically, the stock market is now back at the price that it was in January. Stock prices surging today. And I hope that a lot of you did not buy into that fear that they tried to drive. Oh, the stock market's gonna collapse. The government, you know, our economy's gonna collapse. All that stuff. We told you to stay calm. Either buy more if you had the ability to do it, or at least hold onto your stocks. I hope you guys did. I hope you didn't let the panic get to you. But the thing that they're not talking about at all, to your point, Buck, the southern border is one of the biggest successes that I can remember any president ever saying, I will fix it. We hear a lot from politicians who basically make a living saying, I will fix it. And then they get into office and nothing really changes. Can you remember in 100 days, and it even took less than 100 days, it only took 30. Can you remember anything that a president has ever fixed faster than what Trump did at the border, such that nobody even talks about it now? It's just a huge story.
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Clay Travis
It was. It was a huge concern of the American people going into this last election, as we know, right alongside the economy, it was really one and two. Economy one, border two. And. And some polls. Border could even outstrip the economy. Depends because the border, the economy are tied together, too. There's a lot. A lot of these things are seen side by side. But remember, it's not just Clay that he fixed it so quickly. It's that he came in and fixed it so quickly. And the previous occupant of the Oval Office had spent four years through his surrogates and through the media telling us, it's so hard, it's so complicated. We can't do anything to fix this. Which was always a lie because of course, they could. One of the biggest changes isn't just the enforcement mechanisms at the border. It is that. What did we say a million times here, Clay? We talk about the border. It's about the incentives if you think you can get in and stay, a lot of people will come. People now think, hold on a second. Do I want to pay a coyote? 5, 10, 15 grand? Do I want to deal with the cartels and show up in Mexico and, you know, spend time in an immigration facility in America and all this stuff? If I don't think I'm going to get to stay, I might get sent home. Completely changes the calculation. But I did want to bring us back, Clay, to why is there such. I mean, here's the Associated Press, you know, reporting on this. Episcopal Church says it will not help resettle white South Africans granted refugee status in the U.S. episcopal Church's migration Service is refusing a directive from the federal government to help resettle white South Africans granted refugee status. Citing the church's long standing commitment to racial justice and reconciliation, Presiding Bishop Rowe announced that after 49 South Africans departed their homeland, bound for new homes in the U.S. episcopal migration ministries will halt its decades long partnership with the government. The Episcopal Church is refusing to help with. After 40 years of, oh yeah, give it, you know, anybody, we'll help anybody come into this place and resettle them. They won't help these South Africans be resettled. They are subject to state sponsored. Now they see, this is why this is so. Hold on, what's going on in South Africa? You start to look at this, what's happening in South Africa, Clay? South Africa is actually a, it has become a sort of final stage, you know, affirmative action state, if you will, where they have actual hard quotas so that, you know, companies like the board of a company has to be 85% black and, you know, the employees of a company have to be 85, whatever, I'm making up the numbers, something like that. And the government also is constantly flirting with more ways to take land from white farmers in that country. And this has caused a tremendous amount of dysfunction. The government is insanely corrupt, by the way. It has economically been reduced to a horrible rate of growth and there's a lot of poverty and crime and all these things, but there is open racial discrimination by the state. That's what it is. Our own, our own Supreme Court said, you actually can't do this in Harvard admissions. Well, you also shouldn't be able to do this anywhere else. You shouldn't be able to discriminate on the basis of race. And that's why there's such an outrage here to bringing 55,0 white South Africans into this country under refugee status because they are being discriminated against.
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Buck Sexton
This country is so unsafe that they don't make women stop at red lights after dark in many parts of the country. I mean, think about how unfortunate that is. Any country where you just say, and everybody just kind of accepts it, hey, if you're driving at night and you're a woman, you don't have to stop at a red light. Is a country that has been completely taken over by criminal elements. And it's unfortunate that that has occurred. And you know, I know when they had the World cup, the amount of security that was required for the teams was off the charts. They basically put all of the different teams at the World cup that South Africa hosted behind prison, you know, walls almost in many ways to keep them from being able to even go out in many parts of the country because they were so concerned about the safety of the players from all the different countries. That's a sign obviously, that, that things have fallen apart. And I think it's gotten worse there in terms of safety for all people since. And it is unfortunate. And the fact that you would make that the, the focal point, again, the point is none of the successes get talked about and anything that they can put in a negative light becomes a huge part of the focus.
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Clay Travis
Here's how this, this issue is covered, for example, at the New York Times. I want you to. I'm going to read this so, you know. Exactly. And this was, let me see. Yeah, this is about a year or two ago. New York Times. Kill the boar. Boar is a reference to white South Africans. Kill the Boar song fuels backlash in South Africa. And US Right wing commenters claim that an old apartheid chant is a call to anti white violence. But historians and the left wing politicians who embrace it say, don't take it literally. They have songs in stadiums about killing the white people in their country and they're allowed to chant and sing this. And the New York Times is like, hold on everybody. Maybe we just shouldn't take it literally. And given what's going on in the country, it's not like everyone's getting along great and the country's functioning really well and yet they will take that position on this. I just think what you see here is that we have, the left in this country has decided that our immigration policy is first and foremost about taking people from the impoverished third world nations that are non white and that that is actually the focus of our immigration. Because Otherwise, why do 50 migrants. 50 migrants is. I saw 300 migrants coming into the US at one time across the border. 50 migrants.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Leon Nafak
Fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Clay Travis
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Buck Sexton
No.
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Leon Nafak
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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Clay Travis
Affair and I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second I'm going to ask.
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Leon Nafak
I'm Leon Nafak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre.
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Caller
And insane I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Leon Nafak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show Buck, let's have some fun here. I don't know if you've heard Trump earlier. You mentioned the semi glue tides. Have you heard, did you hear Trump talking before he hopped on the plane to head to the Middle East? We should mention our buddy Sean Hannity who's going to be on after us. I don't know if he's going to be on today because I saw him just post a video saying he's traveling with Trump to the Middle East. So he just posted a video that is up from Fox News shared it. So I had not heard, but I. I don't. Maybe he can. Maybe he can do that. Sean can do a lot of things. Maybe he's going to do the show live from Air Force One as he flies to the Middle east. But I imagine he's going to have some pretty cool stories and interviews coming, but that's where he is right now. But Trump told a story talking about the new drug plan that he has put in place about one of his friends who is overweight, who is upset about how much the fat shot drug cost. Listen to cut 27 buck. I'm told this is fantastic.
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Caller
I'll tell you a story. A friend of mine who's a businessman, very, very, very top guy, most of you would have heard of him, highly neurotic, brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes the fat, the fat shot drug. And he called me up and he said, president. He calls me, he used to call me Donald, now he calls me President. So that's nice, respect. But he's a rough guy, smart guy, very successful, very rich. I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but. Because he's got comments. President, could I ask you a question? What? I'm in London and I just paid for this damn fat drug I take. I said it's not working. He said, he said, I just paid $88 and in New York, I pay $1300. What the hell is going on?
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're talking immigration issues today alongside all the big moves, national security and the economy and drug prices. And so much from just the last 48 hours has come down in this administration that is newsworthy, important, big moves being made, lots of progress happening. But on this issue, again, of as you can tell, I find it very interesting as somebody who's followed the immigration issue as one of the, I think most Important issues for the country and something that I am most fascinated by for the last decade or so. I mean, I really thought this was something that was. It's critical to have a real understanding of Clay. Stephen Miller makes the case here for why taking some refugees from South Africa actually fits the definition of what a refugee is. Unlike what's been going on on Our Southern Border play 13, what's happening in.
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Stephen Miller
South Africa fits the textbook definition of why the refugee program was created. This is persecution based on a protected characteristic, in this case race. This is race based persecution. Refugee program is not intended as a solution for global poverty. And historically it has been used that way. Wherever there's global poverty or wherever there's dysfunctional governments, then the U.S. refugee program comes in, sweeps people up, relocates them to America, and you have multi generational problems that you, even into the second and third generation, you have endemic poverty, you have crime issues, you have integration issues. The U.S. refugee program in America has been a catastrophic failure. I mean, if you look, for example, at the Twin Cities area, I mean, just in terms of markers of educational outcomes, in terms of public safety, in terms of welfare use, I mean, it's been a complete public policy flow failure. And so this is an example of the President returning the refugee program to what it was intended to be used.
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Clay Travis
As, a refugee program that takes in refugees, as in people who need refuge in your country because they are under threat, because of who they are. They can't change. There's nothing they can do. It's either their skin color or their religion or their political party. This is what a refugee program actually is. Clay. And you know, we have Mark in Charleston, South Carolina, is a former South African and an immigrant to this country. Who wants to weigh in? Mark, thanks for calling in.
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Caller
Yeah, thank you.
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Thank you for taking the call and highlighting this very important issue regarding these guys who arrived from South Africa.
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Buck Sexton
What is the situation like? Tell us what you have experienced and what you know to be true.
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Caller
I am.
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Clay Travis
I am.
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Caller
My dad was an American and my mom is South African. So I grew up there. Military there. We do two years conscription and then I served another 15 years. The situation in South Africa is dire. I mean, it's a systematic elimination of white people from a business front and from a crime front. For instance, I'll give you a couple of examples. I was in business there and they instituted a policy called black economic empowerment. So that meant if I want to start a business, I've got a million bucks to put into a business. I have to take a Black partner to access the equivalent of the US SBA loan application system. So they force you to, you know, partner with black people in that case. And you will only whether that person has the expertise or not. That doesn't matter. Going further than that, the farmers have been systematically killed and attacked on their farms for the last 15 to 20 years. I think the count is over 50,000 already over the last 20 years. And the government has done nothing.
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Clay Travis
Can you just give people the background? Because, you know, we don't. It's not a surprise we don't hear a lot about South Africa these days in our own media. Why is the land the farmer issue, you know, why are they being targeted? What's sort of the backstory to that?
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Caller
Okay, so black people in South Africa value land probably, and cows probably above all else. And bearing in mind the white population of South Africa is now down to about 4% out of 66 million. Only 4 to 5%. But the land issue has become a status symbol and the getting rid of that. You've heard the story, you were alluding to it earlier. Kill the farmer, kill the Boer. Those were literally chanted, as you said, at public engagement places, football stadiums. One of the very extreme left wing guys was a driver named Julius Malema. He advocated for killing white. He said it was fine. I mean, we all decided in the apartheid to end it and give everybody a fair chance. And they systematically turned the whole system against us. From the business point of view and from a crime point of view, the fact that you mentioned people, women, not having to stop at traffic lights at night, that is factual. In fact, we lived like in a jail. I mean, you have many layers of security. We had burglar bars in the windows, armed response to your house. You kept guns in multiple positions in house. I myself kept guns all over the place because you never know when you're going to get a home invasion. It became untenable. And even after in the military, serving all the time I did in the military, right back to the time when Castro sent 20,000 troops into Angola. When we engaged in it, I just couldn't take it anymore. It just became the PTSD was just sitting in on a. From a civilian front, never mind a military front. So I'm very happy that President Trump allowed these guys to come in. I wish we would allow all the farmers to come here because South Africans are great farmers and they could do a lot for this country.
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Buck Sexton
How difficult was it? Sorry, I was just. How difficult was it for you to come to the United States? What Was the process, like, very easy?
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Caller
You know, for me, it was very easy. I was blessed that my dad was. Was from Texas. He was a pastor and sent over there to start churches, etc. And, you know, I, I've always had a US citizenship, so.
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Buck Sexton
Okay. Very often you said your mom was South African and you were raised there. That's right. So you had American citizenship, so you were able to come here easily.
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Caller
I was very blessed that, to have that.
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Clay Travis
And do you think a lot more. Do you think a lot more white South Africans will come and want to come if the door is kept open in this way for the refugee program by Trump?
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Caller
Absolutely. And South Africans have a very good work ethic. You can find that out in any country that we settle. We don't do crime. We work and we work properly and we adhere to the laws of the country, unlike these minions who they brought in, these millions of people who are absolutely flaunting all the US Laws and the Constitution.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I mean, the people coming across our border in so many cases are not only. Thank you. So, by the way, great perspective. Thank you so much for calling in, Mark. Appreciate you. But yeah, people show. I mean, Clay, I saw this. They show up at the border. They have these wristbands on. You can see piles and piles of them. Border patrol has all this, you know, photos and footage of this, of the wristbands to show, oh, I've paid off the cartel. Don't worry. The cartel's already got their human trafficking money from me. Tom Holman talks about the horrible stuff that goes on at our southern border to. Because of the cartels and with, like, young girls and women. It's, it's, it's absolutely horrific and it's systematic. And that's been, you know, the sex crimes and against very young girls. The cartels do this and, and there's no, you know, no accountability on that side of the border. They're not going to get caught. All this horrible stuff that's going on and Biden doesn't do. It's not even didn't lift a finger to stop it. That was the decision they made. That was the price of doing business for the Biden border policy was all the horrible stuff and the murderers who came into this country and all this, but 50 white South Africans who were like, you know, my country doesn't really want me anymore and treats me terribly because of. I can't do anything about it. It's because I am white. I was born this way. And the media clearly has a problem with it. And people at the Episcopal Church has a problem with it. I mean, that was a real, real, you know, shock. And I would just say this though, as a South Florida guy now. People who have, people who have been welcomed lawfully into America by the American community who have fled tyranny, in the case of South Florida, it's fled Castro's communism and you know, people who fled the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot in Cambodia, people who I believe now are going to be fleeing the race based targeting that goes on in South Africa. They make great Americans because they really true of a lot of people from the former Soviet Union too. They see what can go wrong in a country that does not have freedom, that does not treat people equally based on, you know, the same irrespective of skin color, irrespective of religion. They really appreciate this place. And that's what we want from a refugee program. We don't want people who are like, I can make more money here and send remittances back home and I'm not going to learn the language. And America owes this to me because this is what people tell me at the border, that's what we don't want.
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Buck Sexton
By the way, Greg in South Dakota says a lot of the people farming around him are South African too. I think he wants to weigh in and tell us a little bit of his story as well. Greg, what have you got for us? What, what is your experience?
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Caller
My farm in South Dakota and we hire a custom harvester out of Minnesota and he brings in every year 80 to 100 South Africans on that. I don't. Is it H.G. 1 whatever that H.B.
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Buck Sexton
1 whatever the.
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Caller
Yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, visiting with those guys back in 2016, they were, they were such pro Trump people when he got elected and they told the horror stories about it. That one guy had a friend who, they went out to his friend's farm, they took him and his wife and his two daughters captive. They, they cut both arms and both legs off of him. And what made him watch him die while they raped his wife and his daughters. And they talked about these things going on, horrendous things that you just can't comprehend being here where we're at. And yet these people, I have never come across people who are so appreciative of what you do for them. They're such Christian young men. They can make more in the United States working here in one month than they can a full year back in South Africa. And they send their money back. That's what it's. That's what they're here for. And this morning, when I heard President Trump on the TV at the White House talking about it, I called two or three of them this morning again and visited with them, and they're here right now. And one guy left his wife and two daughters. This is the fifth year he's been here. And my son said to him last year, the crew and we always meet every morning, and when the day was, when the harvest was over, we said to the one guy that said, you just. You just don't know how much we appreciate you, young man. And they said. I said, to come halfway around the world, you don't know what you're coming to. And the young guy said to us, he goes, sir, we have to come halfway around the world to be appreciated. I did not know how to respond to that. I just.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Caller
Wow.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. Thank you for that perspective as well. You know, for those of you who are curious, there's a. There's a documentary now, this is about Zimbabwe, not South Africa, but there was. There has been a similar redistribution program of the land in effect there, and a lot of pressures on it. And it's called Mugabe and the White African. It's a documentary. You know, PBS has it. It was clay. It was. Have you ever seen this?
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Buck Sexton
It was filmed.
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Clay Travis
Filmed clandestinely. So it's. It's all. It's real footage. And it's a white farmer in Zimbabwe next door under Mugabe, dealing with the land redistribution program, which the world says, oh, but that's only fair because there's so many more black people than white people in Zimbabwe. And so, yeah, what it means is that government thugs show up and, like, threaten to kill you and rape your wife unless you hand over your land. That's actually what it means. And it's state policy. And that was next door. It hasn't gotten, you know, it hasn't gotten the attention that you would think it would. And I think it's because so many in this country have adopted this narrative that racism can't be against white people. And that's really what this all comes down to. And of course it can. Racism can be against any person based on their race.
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Buck Sexton
And by the way, I do know the economic result of that in Zimbabwe was the entire economy in the country collapsed because some of the most productive parts of Zimbabwe were agricultural. And it probably won't surprise you that when the government got involved and took over the land, the actual success of the farming industry collapsed. So it wasn't just you were taking the Land. It was. You were destroying the jobs created by the land that was helping to feed the people of Zimbabwe.
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Clay Travis
And what. And what you. By the way, Zimbabwe, I mean, Mugabe and the. And the White African is a fantastic documentary, and it did not get as much attention in this country as it should. By the way, anyone who watches it, it is very powerful. It is very well done, and it is haunting. And, you know, I think in the end, he testifies at the Hague. Anyway, I don't want to give away stuff, but you should watch it if you want to know kind of what happens in some of these places where they don't adhere to the principle that all men are created equal. You can see exactly what goes on. It is really, really good documentary. So I would just. I would recommend that to you. But, Clay, to your point, Zimbabwe was. Was considered the breadbasket of Africa.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
And then it turned into a place with hyperinflation and can't feed itself. And something else you see in the documentary that you will not hear talked about in the Western media is these. These white farmers in Zimbabwe. This family that's been there for like six generations. Okay. It's not like they're, you know, they just showed up yesterday. This, this family of farmers, they have like a hundred black people who live with them, work with them, they're close with on the successful farm who rely on the farm for their families. They're getting paid and they're a part of this. And it goes well. And then guess what happens when the land redistribution happens? Government thugs show up, they say, this is our land now. They sell off all the farm equipment. They sell off everything. They burn the house down. And now no one has a job and no one has food. And that is what happened in that country on scale, or rather in scale en masse. And it's worth. It's worth noting for those of you who want to see this. I'm telling you, it's a really good documentary. All right? Yesterday was Mother's Day and women across the country celebrated the amazing gift of motherhood for our sponsor, Preborn. Mother's Day holds a very special meeting for all the women who are afraid, uncertain, or even pressured by external forces to end pregnancy. Preborn is there for you. You might feel alone, but you're not. Reach out to preborn.com buck and discover a choice life as a new dad. I can't begin to describe how life changing becoming a parent is, but so many who are parents already know. But for some of the women out there who are pregnant right now. There's a lot of stress and a lot of pressure, sometimes pressure to get an abortion. This is where Preborn comes in with their clinics. Preborn has a team of compassionate and kind people who live by the mission of saving as many unborn babies as possible, but not just the babies. Preborn saves the lives of the women who are struggling too. It gives them support in a whole range of ways for two years after the birth of the baby. This all starts with that ultrasound process which Preborn can accomplish for just $28. Preborn is a great organization. Please consider donating today. Dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250. Say baby or visit preborn.com buck that's preborn.com b u c k sponsored by preborn two guys walk up to a mic.
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Buck Sexton
Anything goes. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Leon Nafak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Caller
Did you make a mistake in sending.
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Clay Travis
Arms to Tehran, sir?
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Buck Sexton
No.
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Leon Nafak
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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Clay Travis
Affair and I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second I'm going to ask.
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Leon Nafak
I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre.
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Caller
And insane I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Leon Nafak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Tons of big news I will mention stock market absolutely on fire today. Biggest news, the tariffs back down and an expectation of a more detailed explanation of exactly what the future will look like. 30% tariffs is now going to be the case for the next 90 days. Stock market, the Dow up over 1,000 points and the S&P 500, which is the index of the 500 largest companies in the United States. Also surging very close to Buck being up for the year now, which is a. Oh wow, they told you. Hey, things are gonna fall apart. Up 3% alone today. If you happen to buy near the bottom, you have made 20% in about a month. Stock market average around the 9%, 8% return. S&P 500 historically. So you have more than doubled what the stock market would usually do in a year if you were buying on the dip. Pretty good time.
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Clay Travis
Did I not say the name of the documentary on air? Because some people are asking me again.
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Buck Sexton
No, you said it several times.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah. Mugabe and the white African. Yeah. Go check it out, everybody.
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Buck Sexton
I'm going to watch it. It sounds super fascinating, sad.
- [41:25]
Clay Travis
It's really good. It's really.
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Buck Sexton
Laura would like it too.
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Clay Travis
I mean, it's haunting.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. I need to check it out for sure. We come back, Nicole Sapphire will join us. We'll talk to her about the President's move on Dragon drugs, what she thinks about that and more.
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Clay Travis
Made in America means something to us.
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Leon Nafak
When you invest 700 billion annually in.
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Clay Travis
American companies and the 13 million workers and families they support, you're investing in.
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Leon Nafak
The success of Main Street.
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Clay Travis
That's money powering growth in manufacturing, tech, energy and innovation.
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Leon Nafak
And it starts with private equity backing American ambition.
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Clay Travis
Learn how private equity changes, keeps American.
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Leon Nafak
Businesses growing@investmentcouncil.org paid for by the American Investment Council. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra Affair.
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Clay Travis
The things that happened were so bizarre.
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Caller
And insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Leon Nafak
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
You're listening to an iHeart podcast.