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Clay Travis
Welcome back in hour number two, Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the program. We'll take some of your calls. We'll continue to react to everything. And we bring in now our good friend Bill O'Reilly. Next book comes out in September, confronting Evil, Assessing the Worst of the Worst. And he's got a three Americans Live show with Stephen A. Smith and Chris Cuomo in Westbury, New York. It is this Sunday. Tickets available@billoriley.com Bill, we appreciate you coming on. All right. How big of a story do you think the signal controversy is? How long does it go on? What is your analysis right now?
Bill O'Reilly
Pretty much over today unless there's another revelation. So we know what happened. You know, Walsh inadvertently screwed up his communications on this Internet site and this weasel, Jeffrey Goldberg got on the site and got the information. Big mistake. Not a scandal. If I were President Trump, I wouldn't fire anybody. Certainly embarrassing. If it happens again, then he has to fire a whole bunch of people.
Buck Sexton
I think that's totally correct or I totally agree with that. Bill, thanks for being here with us. The, the one part of this that I think is, is interesting is, or there are a few things that have come out of this, but one of them is what do you think are the, the ethics of a journalist in this case getting access? Do you think that he plays the I'm a journalist so I should just find out whatever I can card or given that it's national security, which by his own admission is high level stuff, impending strike, he should have ducked out of it. I mean, what do you think is the right move? Quite honestly, if you were advising somebody who came to you and said, hey, I'm in this chat and they're talking about some stuff they shouldn't, what would you tell them to do?
Bill O'Reilly
All right, as the Dean of American journalism, that's me, 50 years this year in the business getting paid 50 years. So I'm appointing myself the Dean of American Journalism. If it were me and I got on a thread accidentally as a reporter, I would take notes, all right? I would get the information because that's what reporters do. And Goldberg I don't think did anything deceitful, but I'm not a entirely sure and I'm going to make a point about that in a moment. But as far as a reporter is concerned, his or her duty is to assemble information. And this would be something that drops in your lap and you're going, whoa, I'm going to listen to this. Okay, so that's not any kind of violation of journalistic ethics or anything else. Then you have to decide what to do with the information. Now here it becomes a little bit murky. If lives are in danger, if military action is compromised, certainly you cannot release it. Cannot until after the fact. And I believe that's what Goldberg did. So this all happened on March 15th.
Buck Sexton
Right.
Bill O'Reilly
So he was treading a fine line, no doubt, and the FBI should be interviewing him. I don't know where Cash Patel is, but agents should have interviewed him on Monday just to find out, you know, what the deuce happened. Right. Does that make sense to everybody? Why wouldn't you be, Jeffrey Goldberg, be interviewed by the. By the FBI? I don't believe that's happened. That as nobody knows about it, it should. Finally, the importance of the story is that if you are going to depend on the Internet for vital national security communications, the Chinese and Russians are going to be your best friends. So all these people should have known better, all of them. It's a lot of inexperience in that national security room, as we all know, and I pointed that out before these appointments were made. So there we go.
Clay Travis
So what do you think? You said you think the story's basically over. President Trump certainly has no love lost for the national security experts out there demanding that people be fired after they raided his home and tried to put him in prison for the rest of his life for classified documents. Trump seems to be totally behind his team right now. Through 60 days, there have been very few leaks. I mean, this was, as Buck and I have talked about, not only an error, but an error that actually was probably the worst person you could have put on the the text thread. Right. Because I don't think most people would have behaved in the way necessarily that Jeffrey Goldberg has. But we're through 60 days. You think this story is going to go away? What grade would you give President Trump, Bill O'Reilly, right now through the first couple of months of Trump 2.0.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay. So you're not just grading him on this incident, you're grading him on the performance. So I actually was asked this question on Stephen A. Smith podcast Monday, and thank you for mentioning the live show that we're doing on Sunday at Westbury, Long Island. And I give Trump various grades. So he gets an A plus on the border.
Clay Travis
Yep.
Bill O'Reilly
He gets a B plus on the deportations of criminal aliens. I think that Homan, who I had on my program, the Noseman News yesterday, it's got to be a little bit more methodical about who's getting booted out of here and why. So. But I give him a B plus. The tariffs, I'm giving them a C and an incomplete because we do not know how that's going to work out. And it spooked the stock market. So some people got hurt in the short term. I tell all my listeners and viewers, do not react to political things in the stock market. Just ride it out. And there is information, by the way, that is coming in, I think it was one of the Arab states, Gulf states, investing a trillion dollars in American economy. And that's not reported by the corrupt press. So there are, there is big money coming into the United States which will bolster the economy. But right now, people are confused about tariffs. It is a confusing situation. And so I'm giving them a C there as far as overall demeanor is concerned. As you guys probably know, I was in a Cabinet meeting in the White House on St. Patrick's Day. He was totally in command. I think he's doing the right thing with Putin, even though Putin is on the COVID of my upcoming book, Confronting Evil. Putin is evil, but you got to deal with evil sometimes. And I think they're going to get some kind of ceasefire in Ukraine. That's big. So overall, I would say President Trump is having a successful launch into his second term.
Buck Sexton
We're talking to Bill O'Reilly. Oh, sorry. I just want Bill, I want to ask you, you mentioned the live show coming up with Stephen A. There's a different kind of live show that's been happening lately, a road show of sorts with Bernie Sanders and aoc. It's like the socialist elder statesman trying to pass the torch to the woke. Radical leftist. You know this, is this the future of the Democrat Party? You think, are they going to lead into this? You know, how do you see that playing out? Because they have, as we've discussed with you before, the bench, they can tell us all day it's strong. Their bench is not strong right now.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, if they continue on this way and you throw in Maxine Waters saying that Melania Trump may not be a citizen, you throw in that Crockett woman in Texas who is mocking Greg Abbott in a wheelchair, you put that all in one soup bowl and Americans are going, this party is disintegrating with a 30% approval rating. You're going to have two communists go out and do a tour. Sanders is a hardcore communist. He wants to seize private property. Ocasio Cortez I don't think understands the difference between socialism and communism. Could be wrong. And I don't want to be supercilious. Word of the day. She went to the same college I went to, Boston University, but I don't think she understands economics at all. I think she's just a trendy person who goes and says what she thinks her radical left followers want to hear. But Sanders is a dangerous man. He's dangerous. And I don't know whether most Americans understand that Uncle Bernie is a hardcore communist, but certainly when you promote a wealth tax where the government would come into your home and seize private property under the guise of taxation, you're a communist. That's what communism is. So if the Democratic Party putting their future in the hands of those four people, then it's done.
Clay Travis
I don't know if you saw this LeBron James that you, since you were going to be with Stephen A. Smith and you just did his podcast, LeBron James just went on ESPN and really kind of took a two by four to Stephen A. Smith. I don't, I don't know if you saw this, but he mocked him over the way that he has, you know, they had a confrontation of sorts on the court and he mocked him over the way that he has covered it. You have seen Stephen A. Smith be engaging more and more in politics. Do you buy the idea that he might ever do anything in terms of actually running for office? You're doing this tour with him now. I'm sure you'll talk about the LeBron feud a little bit. But what is his end game here? He's now got a hundred million dollar contract from espn. He's going to theoretically have more money than he could theoretically spend. I say theoretically because there's lot of people out there who have made $100 million crazily and end up going bankrupt somehow. So. So that's still out there. But what do you think the next move for Stephen A. Is?
Bill O'Reilly
Well, I don't think he's gonna run for politics anytime soon. He's in his 50s when he gets in his 60s, who probably have enough of calling Cleveland cavalier games and maybe he'll segue. And he's a very smart guy. I think he's honest. I've seen nothing to the contrary. I'm going to take his measure on Sunday. You know, Cuomo and Smith, they better be on their game. They're coming up against me, the dean of American journalism, self appointed, of course. But anyway, LeBron James, when he was yelling at Stephen A. Smith initially was doing so as a father. And I understand that because Smith mocked his son, Bronny James, who might not be ready for prime time yet, is on the Lakers. It is a nepo situation. But I understand that by yelling at Smith on the sideline that then LeBron James pulled his groin and was out for two weeks. So maybe that's something. But you know, these kinds of feuds, a lot of them are artificial and they help the feuders. Yes, LeBron James is an attention junkie. Loves it. And I think Stephen A. Likes the attention as well.
Buck Sexton
Bill, do you still have some tickets to sell for this live event? Where do folks go to get them?
Bill O'Reilly
You know, it's, it's a really nice crowd, but we just released 15 VIP tickets where after the show you get to meet me and Cuomo and Smith. Now why anyone would want to do that, I don't know. But they sold out fast and first so we scrounged up 15 more and then we, you know, Westbury, I don't know if you guys have been there. It's really a good theater. It's not a bad seat in a place. It's got a big audio visual and I already have the topics that we're going to talk about with the Q and A from the audience. It's going to be a lot of fun and. But they're going to be serious things that we mention as well. So if you anybody wants a good afternoon Sunday afternoon, go to billowrightly.com link you right over Ticketmaster, Westbury Music Fair. All of that and I appreciate you guys mentioning. It's very kind of you to do it.
Clay Travis
Keep up the good work.
Bill O'Reilly
Am I what?
Buck Sexton
Sorry. That's what happens. You got two guys doing this sometimes. He said, keep up the good work. And I said, we appreciate you coming on, Uncle Bill. Always welcome here. We'll talk to you soon.
Bill O'Reilly
I appreciate you having me, guys.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we have an update here from Secretary of Defense Hegseth, our friend Pete Hegseth who has weighed in on this situation. And here's the. Here's the latest from Pete Hegseth. Clay, tell everybody how he's responding on this whole signal issue.
Clay Travis
He Pete Hegseth just tweeted, let's get this straight. The Atlantic released the so called war plans and those plans include no names, no targets, no locations, no units, no routes, no sources, no methods and no classified information. Those are some really crappy. He did not use that word war plans. This only proves one thing. Jeff Goldberg has never seen a war plan or an attack plan as he now calls it. Not even close. As I type this, my team and I are traveling the Indo Pacific calm region, meeting with commanders, the guys who make real war plans and talking to troops. We will continue to do our job while the media does what it does best, pedal hoaxes. That is Pete Hegseth responding to the latest story from the Atlantic. Here's what I would say, Buck, I don't know what the Atlantic still has back on the. On the so called storyline because they now have published multiple stories on this a part of certainly I would think The Trump team knows exactly what was said on the text chain. The general rule I will say is this. Get ahead of the story. Don't allow it to continue to come out in dribs and drabs. I hope this is the end of it. But they are intentionally dragging it out, it seems to me at the Atlantic to get as much attention as they possibly can.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. By the way, Major League Baseball comes back tomorrow. I wanted to hit something that we had a big conversation about yesterday and you and I were just talking about it. Buck, the way that Disney has totally lost its connection with large segments of the American population. You and I were looking during the commercial break and I've got it pulled up on my phone on the Stocks app. I don't want to sound like Tim Walls here, but if you had bought Disney stock on in July of 2015. So it's basically a decade ago, the stock price was around $120 a share. Today, 10 years later, the stock price is around a hundred dollars a share. So you would have lost, not even Factoring in inflation, 20%, roughly stock valuation at a time when the stock market itself has more than doubled. Now, you may have made some money back on dividends, but I bet a lot of you out there have Disney stock in your 401ks or if you buy like I do, s P500 index funds. Disney is one of the 500 biggest companies in the world. So you're going to have some exposure to this company. We talked about this in the context of the Snow White movie where woke Disney is collapsing. They're going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. And you and I had a conversation where there's something about the casting that just didn't make sense. And I think if they had just let you and me actually make casting decisions, that the movie might have made a billion dollars for Disney instead of losing hundreds of millions of dollars. And if you think that's crazy, as we told you yesterday, the original animated Snow white released in 1937 made $4 billion in modern day dollars. So it basically funded the Disney Corporation and made it the huge success that it was in Walt Disney's era. Now, my wife, last night we're driving back from dinner and we went to a songwriter event which was really fun. 10 Pan south, one of the events that they do here in town where everybody explains how they came to write the songs that they did. Very cool. In Nashville. And my wife said, I think you're wrong about who should have been cast as Snow White. She said, Rachel Zegler, clearly the wrong choice. And then we got into my big thing, which is Gal Gadot is actually better looking than Rachel Zegler. You can't have you agree with me on that.
Buck Sexton
Well, yeah, but I think she's too old to be Snow White. Isn't Snow White supposed to be.
Clay Travis
But, but, but the. Sorry you all back. I'm fired up about this. I really am fired up about this book. Taking you back to the 1937 Snow White. The entire premise of Snow White is that Snow White has replaced the evil stepmother as the fairest in all the land. So I don't buy off the face that Gal Gadot is worse looking than Snow White. Right. So the entire premise of the movie doesn't happen if the evil step queen, stepmother queen is. Is actually still better looking than Snow White. But I said. I think I said it on the air. I know I tweeted it that Sydney Sweeney should have been cast as Snow White. My wife says that this is me being clouded by Sydney Sweeney's boobs. She says that Sydney Sweeney is far too buxom to use a word that will probably make Buck Sexton happy. Far too buxom to have actually played Snow White. So it got me thinking. I'm sure that we're going to be deluged right now. Who would have been. I would stick to my Sydney Sweeney choice. I think it would have been excellent. I think the movie would have made a billion dollars, and I think that she would be a fabulous Snow White. My wife says I am beclouded potentially by Sydney Sweeney's decolletage. I'm trying to use as many different words for boobs as I can here. Buck, who would have been a better choice? And I pushed back against my wife. I said, you remember Lindsay Lohan made a lot of money in those Herbie and the Love Bug movies back in the day, and she was quite the buxom lass. And it was not considered to be too bawdy. So who would have been the appropriate choice for Snow White? Buck, do you have a name? Producer Ali, do you have a name? If they had given the Clay and Buck show carta blanche here to pick the next Snow White, who could have been the pick to make a billion dollars? I think it's Sydney Sweeney. Do you have a better name?
Buck Sexton
I. I'm not as I'm. I. First of all, I'm definitely not getting in. In the crossfire here of whether you.
Clay Travis
Are too influenced by Sydney Sweeney's boobs. And that's. That's characterizing the choice here.
Buck Sexton
I do not want to be near the shrapnel from this one. So whatever. However you decide to go with this one, I. And so there's that.
Clay Travis
The.
Buck Sexton
My thing on the Sydney Sweeney. I'm sorry. On the Rachel Zegler. Now I'm thinking, yeah, there you go.
Clay Travis
You're getting clouded too. Can't say. Can't get. Can't get away.
Buck Sexton
The Rachel Zegler component of this is. And I don't say this to be mean. I mean, I just. Look, there are some roles in. You know, it's unfortunate. I am not going to make a living as an underwear model. You know what I mean? Like, I wish. I wish things were different, but that's not going to happen. And I accept that in life. Like I don't have a six pack working on it, but I don't have a six pack. And that's just not going to happen. I'm an older guy. I think that Snow White should be pretty, like really pretty. And I don't think that this was a good casting choice for that reason. For me it's just.
Clay Travis
She had it. Rachel Zegler is not good looking enough per Buck Sexton to be Snow White. Correct?
Buck Sexton
Yeah, that is just, that's my take on it. So I, I could go with any number of different. Who is the Anna, you know, like, you know, Anna De Armas, I think is, is that, is that her name? Very pretty. Now, she's a little, you know, I also don't get into the ageism thing here, but she might be a little bit old. Do you know who I'm talking about? No, you don't know Anna De Armas? She played, she just was. Who did she, she just played Marilyn Monroe, I think.
Clay Travis
Okay.
Buck Sexton
And so you know that to me, if you're, you're investing or you could go sort of more the, you know, the younger. I don't know how. Look, it's a cartoon. I mean, Snow White, she falls in love with the prince. You know, you got to, let's assume Snow White is, I don't know, 19 or 20. You know, I think that's probably a pretty good. If we're trying to throw it in the, in the range here of what you could have somebody that age play her who's just a really good actress and really pretty and do a really good job. You know, I don't think, I don't think that Rachel Zegler is enough of a draw. Somebody pointed out one of our VIPs that she was in the west side Story, which also starred in that bomb as well. Like, how many bombs are you allowed to star in before people start to realize you are not the draw that the executives who make these decisions think they are? You know, just like a lot of things, people are figuring this out about medicine, about, about, you know, legal minds, about a lot. There are a lot of morons who are movie executives. They don't know anything. All they want to do is keep their job because their job ultimately is overpaid and easy to do, but hard to get, which is true of a lot of these sort of senior level corporate jobs. It's tough to get. But once you have it, all you're trying to do is keep it because, you know, you go to Meetings, you're like, yeah, we should greenlight this, you know, whatever. And so I think that you have to look at these kinds of decisions that Disney has made and understand these people are. They didn't build Disney. This is a common thing with leftists as well. The people that are making the decisions there now, they inherited Disney and they are driving it into the ground. Same way like Gavin Newsom took over the state of California and is just making it worse all the time. He didn't build Hollywood and Silicon Valley. He took it over and ruined it. They're ruining Disney. The execs that are running it the same way.
Clay Travis
Ali, Producer Ali, come up on the mic if you can. Do you agree with Laura that Sydney Sweeney's boobs are too big to play Snow White? Have I been led astray in my casting decision here?
Maria Konnikova
Well, Clay, you're definitely looking in the other direction.
Clay Travis
I'm susceptible to influence. You think maybe on the casting decisions?
Maria Konnikova
She does have that really beautiful alabaster skin.
Clay Travis
Sydney Sweeney does. Yes.
Maria Konnikova
Yeah, she does. Dakota Fanning does too.
Clay Travis
Okay. That was your suggestion. Dakota Fanning and Buck. I'll sign off on this. I don't, I don't. I legit. Didn't. Don't know who this person is. And I'm not claiming, by the way, to be that plugged in on many modern day movies because I. I'm not out as much.
Buck Sexton
I think my Ana de Armas, by.
Clay Travis
The way, actually a really good call.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. I think it's because it's you. This is someone. This is movies. This is fantasy. You want to really look at her face on the screen. Okay. This is. This is the business. And I know we're like getting away from this these days. And it's interesting too, you know, there's the whole like body positivity thing. Ten years ago, which everybody was. Oh. Or you know, maybe even sooner than more recently than that. And now with all these different drugs people can take, you have these celebrities who are like, I'm body positive. And now they weigh like 100 pounds.
Maria Konnikova
Plays focused on the apples.
Buck Sexton
What. What happened to yeah, Allie jumping in.
Clay Travis
And saying that I'm focused on the apples? It is true. The. But yeah, you're right. The body parts. As soon as Ozempic started, body positivity didn't exist anymore. Everybody wanted to get skinny. Everybody like, hey, I'm super fat, but I'm really positive about the way I look. No, people are taking Ozempic like crazy if they can afford it. And the body positivity Thing, which, by the way, isn't very healthy.
Buck Sexton
Right.
Clay Travis
Like this whole idea of putting people who are morbidly obese on fitness magazine being like, oh, this person is like super body positive. I think maybe you should be a little bit less body positive and try and get healthier. Just an idea.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
It's actually not healthy.
Buck Sexton
I would say. I practice what I preach with this one. It is not. You don't want to sit down with your doctor and have them say, hey, you're trending toward prediabetes. You don't want to have that conversation. You don't want to find out that some of your blood and your health markers are going south on you because you're going to pay the price no matter what some celebrity says. So, you know, not everybody has, like I said, you don't have to be a bikini or an underwear model. A guy girl, doesn't matter. Well, I mean, guys, you only don't wear bikinis, but you know what I mean? Not about being perfect. It's not about keeping yourself at some unrealistic level of expectation. It's just about being healthy and getting the most out of your day to day and out of your life. And people that tell you that it doesn't matter. Anything that you know, however someone looks is totally fine. They're lying to them and they're not being honest with them, with themselves about what the long term issues are. But back to like, who's hot enough to play Snow White. I can't believe we're even having this conversation. Look, for me, Clay, it's, it's even beyond the funniest thing is still the Dwarves, that they got rid of the.
Clay Travis
Dwarves and the fire. I think they should be really mad at Peter Dinklage, the guy who got to play Tyrion Lannister. He's gotten every good dwarf role for the entire, like last generation. And then he tells the dwarf people.
Buck Sexton
Who are actors, the tiny ladder up behind him. You know what I mean? Totally nice.
Clay Travis
Yeah, totally. Just totally. Like destroyed these seven dwarf actors who aren't going to ever have the opportunity. Maybe you go out and I don't know, you kill it as dopey or Doc and next thing you know, you're. You're the next Tyrion Lannister character. I. The fact that they made, to avoid offending people, they didn't let actual dwarves play the dwarves and instead they made commuter computer animated versions of them. Which is just, to me, kind of the peak of the woke absurdity.
Buck Sexton
Right? I mean, well, this is this is a bit like how in order. Like they. In order to truly support women, the left feminist movement in its final stages here has decided that men can be women the same way any women can. And in doing so completely undermine women, women's rights, women's sports, et cetera. Right. It goes to the ultimate conclusion of the destruction of the thing that it supposedly supports and. And cares about.
Clay Travis
The most ridiculous woke Disney move ever. And I still think this is hysterical. By the way. You can talk back if you think we're crazy on this. Do you remember when they decided that the African animals had to have black voices or else it would be cultural appropriation? When they remade the Lion King. This is one of the most crazy parts of this. They said that if it's not a black voice, the animal, it is cultural appropriation. For instance, for a lion, which is from Africa, to not be voiced by a black person in America, I. It is. That was like, next. I don't even know how you get your head around how crazy that is. They were concerned that a lion having a white voice would be cultural appropriation. So they had black American actors.
Buck Sexton
The original Lion King, there was criticism because the. One of the hyenas was. Was voiced by Whoopi Goldberg. And Scar, they say, is, you know, Scar the lion is gay. And so there was this whole. Oh, there's these subliminal messages of who the. Like who the bad guys or bad people are. And it's like, these are cartoons. It's a cartoon lion, guys. It's a cartoon hyena. Like there's not really. But people get very excited about this stuff.
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Welcome back in. Lots of reaction pouring in. Brian's got a funny one here, Buck. I believe the obvious choice for Snow White would be Dylan Mulvaney. That would, I mean, if they had cast a dude as Snow White, that would have been peak Disney. That would have been.
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Summary of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" Episode: Hour 2 - Uncle Bill: Signal Was a Mistake, Not a Scandal
Release Date: March 26, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Guest: Bill O'Reilly
In the second hour of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton welcome their listeners and introduce their special guest, former Fox News host and author Bill O'Reilly. Clay announces Bill's upcoming book, "Confronting Evil: Assessing the Worst of the Worst," set to release in September, and his live show "Three Americans Live" featuring Stephen A. Smith and Chris Cuomo in Westbury, New York.
A. Overview of the Signal Controversy
The primary topic of discussion centers around the recent Signal controversy involving Jeffrey Goldberg. The hosts delve into the implications of leaked national security information and its handling.
B. Bill O’Reilly’s Analysis
Bill O'Reilly provides his perspective, asserting that the issue is more of a mistake than a scandal:
"[01:46] Bill O'Reilly: Pretty much over today unless there's another revelation. [...] Big mistake. Not a scandal."
He argues that Jeffrey Goldberg inadvertently accessed sensitive information on a secure site and criticizes the management of communications that led to the leak. O'Reilly emphasizes that if President Trump were handling the situation, he might not dismiss the incident so lightly:
"[02:19] Bill O'Reilly: [...] If I were President Trump, I wouldn't fire anybody. Certainly embarrassing."
Buck Sexton raises questions about the ethical responsibilities of journalists in safeguarding national security information:
"[03:03] Buck Sexton: [...] What do you think is the ethics of a journalist in this case getting access?"
Bill responds by self-appointedly declaring himself the "Dean of American Journalism," defending Goldberg's actions as part of a reporter's duty to gather information, while also acknowledging the murky area concerning the release of such sensitive details:
"[03:03] Bill O'Reilly: [...] As the Dean of American journalism, that's me, 50 years this year in the business [...] the FBI should be interviewing him."
The conversation shifts to evaluating President Trump's handling of national security leaks and overall performance during his second term.
A. Grading Breakdown
Bill provides a detailed grading of Trump's performance across various sectors:
Border: A+
"[06:25] Bill O'Reilly: [...] He gets an A plus on the border."
Deportations of Criminal Aliens: B+
"[06:25] Bill O'Reilly: [...] He gets a B plus on the deportations of criminal aliens."
Tariffs: C (Incomplete)
"[06:50] Bill O'Reilly: [...] I'm giving them a C there as far as overall demeanor is concerned."
Handling of Putin and Ukraine: Positive outlook towards potential ceasefire.
"[06:50] Bill O'Reilly: [...] I think [Trump] is doing the right thing with Putin [...] they're going to get some kind of ceasefire in Ukraine."
B. Overall Assessment
O'Reilly concludes that President Trump is having a "successful launch into his second term," based on the aforementioned evaluations.
Buck Sexton questions the future trajectory of the Democratic Party, highlighting the shift towards more radical figures like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC).
"[09:19] Buck Sexton: [...] Is this the future of the Democrat Party?"
Bill O'Reilly expresses concern over the party's direction, labeling figures like Sanders as "hardcore communists" and criticizing AOC's understanding of economics:
"[09:19] Bill O'Reilly: [...] Sanders is a dangerous man. [...] AOC I don't think understands the difference between socialism and communism."
He warns that entrusting the party's future to such leaders spells its decline:
"[09:19] Bill O'Reilly: [...] If the Democratic Party putting their future in the hands of those four people, then it's done."
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to critiquing Disney's recent casting choices for the live-action adaptation of "Snow White."
A. Hosts' Debate on Casting Choices
Clay Travis initiates the debate by expressing dissatisfaction with the casting of Rachel Zegler as Snow White, suggesting alternatives like Sydney Sweeney and Dakota Fanning:
"[24:19] Clay Travis: [...] I think if they had just let you and me actually make casting decisions, that the movie might have made a billion dollars for Disney instead of losing hundreds of millions of dollars."
Buck Sexton cautiously adds his viewpoint, emphasizing the importance of the actress's appearance and age appropriateness:
"[26:24] Buck Sexton: [...] I think Snow White should be pretty, like really pretty. And I don't think that this was a good casting choice for that reason."
B. Listener Reactions and Social Media Banter
The hosts engage in playful banter about listener suggestions, including a humorous comment on casting Dylan Mulvaney as Snow White, which they both dismiss as unrealistic:
"[38:34] Buck Sexton: [...] That would be the destruction of Western civilization happening in real time."
C. Criticism of 'Woke' Culture in Hollywood
Clay and Buck extend their critique to what they perceive as "woke" policies affecting casting and production decisions at Disney, arguing that such choices undermine traditional storytelling and appeal:
*"[33:32] Clay Travis: [...] These kinds of feuds [...] and you can't have [...]".
A. Upcoming Live Show
Bill O'Reilly promotes his upcoming live show, encouraging listeners to purchase VIP tickets for an interactive experience:
"[13:18] Buck Sexton: [...] Oh, sorry. I just want Bill, I want to ask you, [...]"
"[13:23] Bill O'Reilly: [...] If you anybody wants a good afternoon Sunday afternoon, go to billowrightly.com [...]"
B. National Security Communications and Foreign Threats
Further discussion touches on the vulnerabilities in national security communications, highlighting threats from foreign adversaries like China and Russia:
"[04:25] Bill O'Reilly: [...] the Chinese and Russians are going to be your best friends. [...]"
C. Upcoming Topics for Future Episodes
Clay and Buck hint at future discussions, including updates from "Doge World," contracts from the Secretary of Agriculture, and potential declassification of various documents by President Trump.
The episode concludes with Clay and Buck encouraging listener engagement through calls and feedback, setting the stage for continued conversations on pressing national and cultural issues.
Notable Quotes:
Bill O'Reilly on Signal Controversy:
"[01:46] Pretty much over today unless there's another revelation. So we know what happened. [...] Big mistake. Not a scandal."
Buck Sexton on Journalistic Ethics:
"[03:03] What would you tell someone who got access to classified info in a chat?"
Bill O'Reilly on President Trump's Performance:
"[06:25] He gets an A plus on the border."
"[06:50] I'm giving [tariffs] a C there as far as overall demeanor is concerned."
Clay Travis on Disney Casting:
"[24:19] [...] I think if they had just let you and me actually make casting decisions, that the movie might have made a billion dollars for Disney instead of losing hundreds of millions of dollars."
Bill O'Reilly on Democratic Party's Future:
"[09:19] [...] If the Democratic Party putting their future in the hands of those four people, then it's done."
This episode offers a critical analysis of recent political and cultural events, blending serious discourse with lighthearted debates. Bill O'Reilly's insights provide a seasoned perspective on national security and political leadership, while the hosts' discussions on media and entertainment reflect ongoing tensions surrounding "woke" culture in mainstream institutions.