Hour 2 - Unpacking the Covenant Parallels

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 - Unpacking the Covenant Parallels
Date: August 27, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This episode focuses on the breaking news of a tragic shooting at a Catholic church in Minneapolis, drawing critical analysis and commentary on the parallels with the Covenant School shooting in Nashville. Hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton examine issues around media coverage, ideological motivation, trans activism, medical ethics, and community response to such acts of violence—particularly when the perpetrator is part of an identity group often shielded from critical scrutiny by mainstream outlets.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Breaking News: Minneapolis Church Shooting

• Details of the Incident (03:50):

  • Shooting occurred at a Minneapolis Catholic church.
  • Two children, ages 8 and 10, were killed; four others in surgery.
  • Hospitalized include nine children; ages and outcomes of some victims unclear.
  • Shooter's identity emerging: appears to be a biological male identifying as a woman, with a background tying into trans activism.

• Disturbing Evidence (05:00):

  • Shooter posted videos and images online: included a photo of Jesus as a target, a gun inscribed with “kill Donald Trump”, and reference to trans ideology.
  • Other messages found: “where is your God?” and “do you believe in God?” etched on the weapon; anti-Semitic and anti-Israel phrases (“6 million wasn’t enough”, “Burn Israel”) also present.

2. Parallels to the Covenant School Shooting

• Host Analysis (05:15—07:00):
  • Strong similarities to the Covenant School massacre, which also involved a trans-identifying shooter.
  • Criticism of mainstream media for downplaying or suppressing such details:
    • Clay Travis: “Much of the media just stopped covering who the shooter was… because, again, it’s not the ‘right kind’ of person doing the shooting for the left” (05:45).
  • Discussion of shooters’ ideological motives and how they are contextualized (or ignored) based on identity.

3. Ideological Motivations and "Trans Terrorism"

• Examining Radicalization (06:36—11:00):
  • Buck Sexton: “This is terrorism; this is a trans terrorist. That is what happened here. This is somebody killing for political and ideological reasons” (06:57).
  • Exploration of how extremist ideologies—endorsed or tolerated by political parties, corporations, and social institutions—feed into violent acts.
  • Societal schisms: half of society supports affirmation, equates disagreement with hate; other half insists on reality and traditional values.

4. Radical Rhetoric: “Genocide” Misapplied

• Perceived Existential Threat (11:06—13:43):

  • Clay Travis: “They believe that if you try to stop children from being trans, that you are committing genocide” (11:06).
  • Buck Sexton: “If you or an institution are the moral equivalent of a Nazi because you… demand guardrails, of course there will be people who say, ‘Well, whatever institution is standing in that way must be evil’” (13:43).
  • The use of hyperbolic language (genocide, Nazis) justifying extreme violence in the minds of perpetrators.

• Antisemitic Elements (11:45, 12:54):

  • Discussion of anti-Jewish messages found on the shooter’s weapon.
  • Clay Travis: “Written ‘6 million wasn’t enough’ and all sorts of anti-Jewish sentiments as well” (11:45).

5. Media Coverage and Political Response

• Media Bias Critique (24:26—26:14):

  • Buck Sexton: “The media hid the manifesto because it was a trans terrorist there. And it’s trans terrorists again” (24:26).
  • Hosts predict minimal coverage or downplaying of perpetrator’s identity by mainstream outlets.

• Politicians’ Reaction:

  • Callers and hosts criticize responses from public officials like Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, interpreted as dismissive of the role of prayer and slow to address ideological roots directly.

    • Clay Travis: “Your prayers effectively don’t matter. And that is what many people are reacting to… The real conversation here should be: we got a trans terrorist, how do we stop this from ever happening again?” (35:44).

  • Buck Sexton on Mayor Frey: “The mayor of Minneapolis is a gutless little weasel… No surprise” (36:33).

  • Analysis of Jen Psaki’s response: Dismissive of concrete security concerns, viewed as a deflection by shifting the focus to unrelated political issues.

6. Medical Ethics and Future Reckoning

• Doctors and Gender-Affirming Surgeries (29:05—30:58):
  • Callers and hosts debate the long-term legal and ethical ramifications for doctors performing gender reassignment surgeries or puberty blocker treatments on minors.
  • Clay Travis: “I think there are going to be lawsuits that bankrupt some of these doctors… The fact that doctors were doing these tops and bottom surgeries that permanently sterilized young kids…” (28:14).
  • Buck Sexton compares to global medical ethics: Pakistani doctors refused to amputate healthy hands as a form of punishment, yet U.S. hospitals perform life-altering surgeries on minors—suggesting this will be judged harshly in retrospect.

7. Security Measures and Parental Involvement

• Community Call-Ins:

  • Katie from Southern California (31:09):

    • Discusses immediate steps at her children’s Catholic school, urging all parents to demand armed security.
    • Katie: “If you don’t have a security guard at your school, you should demand one. Ours is armed… Those kids were praying…” (31:17).
    • Clay Travis and Buck Sexton agree: Public and private schools alike should have armed security; kids need to trust law enforcement as protectors.

  • Funding & Implementation (33:56):

    • Buck Sexton: “You could hire right now a hundred thousand veterans and pay them $100,000 a year… It would cost $10 billion.” Asserts feasible, effective federal investment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media Censorship:

  • “Much of the media just stopped covering who the shooter was… because, again, it’s not the ‘right kind’ of person doing the shooting for the left.”
    — Clay Travis (05:45)

• On Terrorism and Motive:

  • “This is terrorism; this is a trans terrorist. That is what happened here.”
    — Buck Sexton (06:57)

  • “Do you know what was written on the gun in Russian? ‘I’m a terrorist.’ So I'm just wondering, do any left wingers want to debate me on this one?”
    — Buck Sexton (12:16)

• On Moral Justification of Violence:

  • “If you believe that you're having genocide committed against you, then all acts of violence in that perverted and twisted worldview are justified because you believe that your very essence is being targeted.”
    — Clay Travis (11:31)

• On Future Legal Repercussions:

  • “Juries are going to get some of these cases, they are going to bankrupt some of these doctors.”
    — Clay Travis (28:41)

• On Security Measures:

  • “I soundly endorse… having armed security inside of it. I want your kids, my kids, everybody… K to 12, public, private, all of them.”
    — Clay Travis (33:04)

• On Political Leadership:

  • “The mayor of Minneapolis is a gutless little weasel just putting that out there… No surprise.”
    — Buck Sexton (36:33)

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Segments & Timestamps

• Minneapolis Church Shooting Details Emerge (03:50—06:36)
• Analysis of Covenant School Parallels & Shooter Ideology (06:36—11:06)
• Radicalization and "Genocide" Narrative (11:06—13:43)
• Antisemitic Messages and Online Evidence (11:45—13:00)
• Media Coverage and Political Response (24:26—26:44 & 35:44—37:11)
• Medical Ethics, Doctors, and Future Reckoning (29:05—30:58)
• Parent and Listener Calls: Security and School Protection (31:09—34:27)

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Tone & Language

• Forthright, passionate, often combative critique of left-leaning media and political responses.
• Emphasis on logic and emotional honesty, with moments of humor amid grave subject matter.
• Speakers are unapologetic, direct, and speak candidly about contentious topics.

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Conclusion

Hour 2 of “Unpacking the Covenant Parallels” provides incisive and urgent commentary on a devastating act of violence at a Minneapolis church, highlighting perceived failures and inconsistencies in media coverage of trans-motivated violence, concerns over radicalization and medical ethics, and urgent calls for improved security in schools and places of worship. The hosts' analysis is robust, provocative, and challenges prevailing narratives about identity, motive, and responsibility in contemporary American society.

Transcript

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Normally the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are following in real time an awful story out of Minneapolis. I want to update you in the event that you have not heard. A shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church has sent two. Two. Two people have been killed. An eight year old and a ten year old and four. We don't know their ages. We don't know the details. According to a Minneapolis area emergency room have had to have emergency surgery. We don't know if those are adults. We know nine kids went to the hospital. We don't know if it were two adults. We don't know exactly who had the surgeries and what their latest outcome is likely to be. But if you can pray for them, that certainly would be important and worthy to do here. Now, as we went to break, I said a lot of details about the shooter is now emerging. This is feeling very similar to the Covenant School shooting that many of you will remember in my hometown of Nashville, Tennessee. What happened at the Covenant School shooting was a trans individual went in angry at the world, angry at the church, and shot up the place. There was a manifesto associated with it. That manifesto was buried for a very long time. And if you don't want to call it a manifesto, it was a series of journal writings. Most people still don't know what happened there because almost immediately much of the media just stopped covering who the shooter was. As more of these details come out, this shooter appears to have posted multiple videos on YouTube. And among the details are a photo of Jesus as a target, a gun with kill Donald Trump written on the side of it, a endorsement of trans ideologies. This appears to have been a man potentially trying to identify as a woman. And I believe more details will be coming out about this. And again, two young kids, an 8 and a 10 year old killed and four needing surgery, rushed to the emergency room. I believe where we should be having a conversation here is the trans community is overwhelmingly, if you look at how tiny their percentage is, engaged in many different violent acts out there. And a lot of people are going to never hear the details that we just shared with you. A lot of people never heard the details about the Covenant School shooting that we have shared with you on this program because again, it's not the right kind of person doing the shooting for the left and much of the media. And again, on the ammunition clip written is where is your God? On the gun itself. Kill Donald Trump a target with Jesus head in the where the head is of a target. And do you believe in God? Question mark written on the weapon as well. So it's pretty awful and obviously something that has now become far too common when it comes to the trans shooting community. And Buck, I, I honestly think that we should be having a conversation about the drugs that we're putting these young people on. We know that the trans shooter at Covenant School was all meted up with crazy amounts of hormones and everything else. I think it will come out that there were other aspects of medication that likely were involved in this shooter as well. And this feels to me like something that a rational, reasonable society should be talking about in earnest now with it becoming unfortunately Far too common.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, let's, let's think this, let's think this through for a moment because there's substantial evidence now that this is a, a white left wing, anti Trump, trans, antifa like ideology we're dealing with here. And it's not the first time. It's very similar to what we saw in the Covenant School shooting. And there have been other trans shooters as well. And one thing that is commonplace among these, and this is terrorism, this is a trans terrorist. Ok? That is what happened here. This is somebody killing for political and ideological reasons. So don't let them drop. There are two words they're going to want to drop from this discussion immediately. Trans and terrorist. And those are the two central words in this. This was a. Because it's not about the person being trans per se. It's about somebody who is pursuing an ideology that is unfortunately rammed down everybody's throats by a lot of institutions. Now that being trans is central to your identity, that it is immutable, even though of course it is based on a mutable transition. Right. But they, that this is intrinsic to who you are. Anybody who opposes this, say, like the Catholic Church, which does not support, now the Catholic Church would tell you love trans people, support trans people, help trans people. All of which is true, all of which is moral. And other churches as well. Although some churches, I think, go so far as to say that actually the trans thing should be celebrated for what it is. That is a different thing. I'm saying the Catholic Church says, hug, love, support, be good to trans individuals. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to play along with the delusion. That doesn't mean that you have to say that you don't need help. And what we're seeing here, Clay, is a society that aspects of it at least corporate, major corporations, the academy, meaning colleges, universities and schools, all the way down to a very low level. They have been pushing this ideology for a long time. And now that ideology, now that belief system of trans is central to identity is coming up against its first real moment of reckoning. People are finally saying no. And what they did with this for a long time was it's about just, just be tolerant of it. And people like you and me and others go tolerant of it. Of course, you know, we, we, we love trans people as people. We treat, they are our brothers or sisters in, in the, you know, in the most general sense. They're all, they're fellow human beings. Even Trump said this yesterday, right? Trump said yes. Yeah. Look, I love trans people, but I can't have seven foot dudes playing against women. Now, that's in the sports context. You can love a trans person as a human being and treat them with dignity and kindness and respect, while also saying, we need to get you help. You're not actually a woman. That's not actually true. You should get assistance. You should get therapy. You should seek the attention of people who can help you work through this. What we have instead is half of society telling them, this is essential to who you are. Anybody who challenges or questions this right is a. They're always going to want to conflate these things. Challenging or questioning someone's trans identity does not mean saying, you know, hateful things, hurting someone, refusing to hire someone, doing any of that. That's not what it is. What it is is living in reality. Ok? Those other things are bad and nobody should do those things to any person. But what you see here is a society, Clay, where there's a massive schism, where half the country is telling people like this individual, this is something to be celebrated. It's wonderful, it's beautiful. You are whatever you say you are. And therefore, what are those institutions, Clay? And what are those individuals who say, I'm sorry, I still love you as a person, but what you are doing is not truth. You are not living in truth. And I cannot go along with the lie. I will not live by lies. I will still love you as my fellow brother or sister human being. I will still care for you, I want what's best for you, but I will not live by your lie. Clay, people who are already clearly emotionally unstable, who already have problems, they're being given these two very different messages. And how many times does this have to happen before we say there's something deeply wrong here? There's something that has had. We have crossed a Rubicon and now we have a problem that we have to face up to. I think we've been there for a while. I think this just solidifies that.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, and I think you brought it home for me because I hadn't really spent much time on this, the trans. And I really looked into it aggressively after the Covenant School shooting, which happened in my hometown of Nashville. They believe that if you try to stop children from being trans, that you are committing genocide.

[Buck Sexton]

Genocide, Correct. Very important to bring this up.

[Clay Travis]

And if you believe that you're having genocide committed against you, then all acts of violence in that perverted and twisted worldview are justified because you believe that your very essence is being targeted. Then you tie in all of these Other different toxic stews. Buck. Also on the gun that this individual used to shoot up the Catholic school. I'm looking at photos online as we're talking. Written 6 million wasn't enough. And all sorts of anti guns Jewish sentiments as well.

[Buck Sexton]

Can I just say something, Clay? There's also in Russian written on the gun for anyone. Because this reminds me when I used to go on CNN and have these debates whenever it was a jihadist terrorists who have been relatively quiet in this country for a while now that. How are you using that term? I just said this is a trans terrorist. Do you know what was written on the gun in Russian? I'm a terrorist. So I'm just wondering, do any left wingers want to, want to debate me on this one? Now my analysis led me to. This is an act of terror and this person is saying I am a terrorist. The person who did it. I think, I think we should listen. I think that that's pretty clear.

[Clay Travis]

Burn Israel. Also written on the gun. I mean this entire weapon that he used to kill innocent kids is populated with left wing ideology. And this wedding of the left to the trans community is creating I think a toxic worldview. And you, you really brought it home. Because when you think to yourself, they have convinced these people that if you aren't giving a 12 year old puberty blockers, you are committing genocide against the trans community. They are willing to act out as terrorists. As a result, they think that they're in some way morally justified in their perverted minds to do this.

[Buck Sexton]

Here's where this really comes, really comes together, everybody. And we just have to be honest about this all with each other. If, if, if trying to again, like I said, doing so with love, doing so with support, doing so with kindness in your heart. But if refusing to affirm the trans identity of an individual, and more specifically as Clay raises, if refusing to allow a 12 year old to take puberty blockers and have a, you know, breast removal or you know, they call it upper or bottom top or bottom surgery. If you or an institution are the moral equivalent of a Nazi because you are erasing people and committing genocide for doing so. Of course there will be people who say, well whatever institution is standing in that way must be evil. And they have it exactly backwards. And so why are Catholic churches and why are Catholic children being. Because this is an individual who had through extreme left wing belief that unfortunately is far, the belief is far more prevalent in this country than the violence is. But that's always the case. This is the case in jihadism and Islamism and, and around the world with that too. There's the belief and then there are those who act on the belief. These radical left wing beliefs have been mainstreamed, have been supported throughout society, have been supported by corporations, by the Democrat party, by the media. And now we are paying a price as a society for this because people have been convinced that what is beautiful and good and decent and moral and righteous in our society is actually the source of evil. That is why they're shooting up children in a Catholic church. It is not the first time, and tragically, I don't think it will be the last time. And it is time we looked at this. Clay. I just tweeted this so people know I believe this. If we as a society decided that the great civil rights struggle of our time was elevating people with extreme schizophrenia. I know schizophrenia is on a spectrum. I know people have had schizophrenia. I have very close friends who have had schizophrenia. I'm not maligning anybody for any mental health illness. Mental health, everybody has mental health struggles. But I'm saying extreme schizophrenia is both crippling and pretty frightening to people who have to deal with it. If we elevated that as a beautiful thing that everybody must celebrate, cannot question, say. To suggest that you should get treatment for this, Clay, is evil. To suggest treatment for it is evil. If we did that, terrible things would happen in this country. We have done that. It's just not with schizophrenia. And now we are seeing the outcome and now we are seeing the reality of this. And I think, I think that's to be very clear on it.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's well said and we're going to continue. We'll take some of your talkbacks as more of these details are coming out. Again, I would expect that you will see a lot of left wing organizations start to back away because this is becoming very much of a trend, unfortunately. And look, I hated to say it, 6 million wasn't enough. Kill Israel written on the gun of this person who attacked a Catholic church this morning. Anti Semitism has skyrocketed. There are way too many people out there that are attacking people for being Jewish all around the world, but certainly in our country and certainly in Israel itself. And that's what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is trying to do. Israel is not an easy place to live, particularly for the elderly. Thousands of families that have lost their homes because of missile attacks. A donation you make to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. I mean, this killer went after Christians and he wanted to go after Jews.

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[Buck Sexton]

Into Clay and Buck. So the big story we are on here today is the continuous breaking news about this horrible shooting at the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis. Clay, you have an update for us which just solidifies our reporting so far and our analysis on this tell everybody.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I'm trying to avoid sharing the full name, but Minnesota.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, let's just say that you're going to end up. You would end up dead naming the person. So that's a big clue.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. Minnesota court records confirm this person who identified as a woman with a woman's name, changed his name to identify as a woman in 2020. So the trans terrorist aspect of this is 100% confirmed.

[Buck Sexton]

Yep. This is a trans terrorist, everybody. And a trans terrorist in Minneapolis just shot up a church full of little kids. And it's believed that there was reconnaissance done in advance that he. He had sketched this out and decided that he was going to go in there and kill as many as possible. Clay, again, I don't want to get ahead of where the facts are, but I have to think that yesterday was the same. Was the same shooter. They didn't catch the shooter yesterday. A rifle at a church, shooting it up. Someone was killed. Is there somebody else who's going around with a rifle shooting up churches in Minneapolis? I mean, if that's the case, that's, you know, we got even bigger problems than we realize.

[Clay Travis]

This is an awful, awful story. But again, to your point, yes. And also, this evokes what happened at the Covenant School in Nashville. This is something that we should be talking about in earnest. And, and I think certainly for people who are saying this is going to be a real conversation, that happens now going forward, I think beyond the shadow.

[Buck Sexton]

And remember, the media hid the manifesto because it was a trans terrorist there.

[Clay Travis]

And it's trans terrorists again. And look, right now it's Wednesday. Maybe you're having trouble getting through your Wednesday. You got a big weekend coming up. There are so many different activities out there. I got a football game tomorrow, traveling for the weekend. I bet a lot of you are for Labor Day. Maybe you could lose. Use a little bit more energy in your life. That's where the male vitality stack can come in from Chalk. They also have a female vitality stack. This is all natural, but as you age, you need a little bit of an extra maybe for that workout, maybe to just get you through that week. You're going to love Chalk. Use my name Clay. You get a discount that is fabulous for life. So go right now. Check it out. Our friend Seaton down in Texas. Chalk.com is the website C H O Q. Use my name Clay for a phenomenal discount for life. That's chalk.com. welcome back in, Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot of you weighing in. Awful news coming out of Minneapolis. And I do think, remember when Jen Psaki was supposed to be the star of MSNBC and she was Going to be the Rachel Maddow replacement. You might be wondering how people are responding on the left to what has happened to innocent 8 and 10 year old kids killed in Minneapolis. Jen Psaki tweeted. When kids are getting shot in the pews at a Catholic school mass and your crime plan is to have National Guard put mulch down around D.C. maybe rethink your strategy.

[Buck Sexton]

She's, she's in moron. I mean I know she was the press secretary but that means nothing. She's a moron. That, that has nothing to do with anything. But what does trying to beautify Washington D.C. have to do with a left wing trans terrorist who probably watched MSNBC a lot by the way, just throwing that out there, killing a bunch of kids in a church like Clay.

[Clay Travis]

What.

[Buck Sexton]

How could someone's brain, a functional brain, connect these two things? I would say she should be ashamed of herself, but she's an airhead. I mean she's truly an imbecile.

[Clay Travis]

A lot of you weighing in, we haven't taken any reactions yet. Let's hit some of this Q. Q. Joseph in South Carolina, I think he's actually got a really interesting and good take. This is 94.3 in South Carolina, our news radio station there. Joseph, South Carolina. I think a lot of his problem is that they should do something about these doctors performing all this stuff on these young kids. I know they take oath about not hurting anybody or you know, and this and destroying some little kids life at 12 or 13 or 14 years old, that's against their, their oath. I don't understand why they don't lose their life. You know, what is wrong with these people? I think he hit on a really, really important story that I believe is going to grow in significance over the next decade. Plus, a lot of these people who have gotten trans surgeries are still relatively young. I think that there are going to be lawsuits that bankrupt some of these doctors because if you were 12 and you had your body permanently sterilized by a doctor, you're going to suddenly wake up one day at 22, you're going to have come through puberty, you're going to be a more knowledgeable adult and you're going to sit back and say I can't believe what adults let me do to myself. The fact that doctors were doing these tops and bottom surgeries that permanently sterilized young kids when they are minors, I think you're going to see juries are going to get some of these cases, they are going to bankrupt some of these doctors. I'm just telling you where it's coming. And we're going to go back and we're going to look at this. I really believe, particularly as it pertains to young kids as the equivalent of when so many people were getting lobotomized and that was considered to be just kind of standard operating procedure for doctors. I think this is going to be, it's going to take financial pain raining down on some of these doctors and hospitals that, that made this a part of their business. And I think it's actually a, a really kind of forward thinking comment there.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, I think about in just in the context, you know, I was basically, basically a, I was a political science major in college. This will make sense in a second, everyone. But I was really an Islamic studies major as much as, or sort of Islamic history and politics. I could have been a double major because of all the classes. And I remember classes I took in both disciplines. But I remember that when they passed under Zia in Pakistan, they passed laws, the Hadood ordinances. It's like right around 1980, they passed laws about hand amputation. And so, you know, you can cut it like the Koranic punishment, cut off your hand for stealing. One of the problems they ran into was that actual trained doctors were like, I'm not going to do that. You know, to their, to their doctor's credit. And there's also, there's been other instances, you know, the Malaysian Medical association, for example, under a similar. In one of the states in Malaysia, refused to like, the doctors refused to do the amputations, even though the state was mandating that this would be a punishment. They're like, sorry, we don't, you know, we're doctors, we don't cut off healthy hands. Yeah, and this wasn't that long ago. Everybody, right? This is in, roughly speaking, in my, it was in Clay's lifetime, roughly speaking, in my lifetime. And my point here is. But doctors in this country are removing healthy breasts or healthy genitals from people because of feelings. Think, think about this. The Pakistani doctors under a dictator who were told, get ready to remove people's hands for chronic punishment were like, sorry, not doing it. But in this country you have major medical, major medical hospitals or children's hospitals who are saying, yeah, we're going to give puberty blockers and we're going to remove breasts in teenage girls. It's monstrous. I don't know what else to say. This is monstrous stuff. They should not be doing this.

[Clay Travis]

I agree. Couple of callers, by the way. Let's start with Katie in Southern California. Katie, you say you just dropped your kids off at a Catholic school this morning?

[Katie]

Yeah, I did, kate. It's a TK through 8th grade school here in Southern California.

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[Katie]

After I heard about it and was getting ready for work and literally called the security guard at our school and I said, dude, put your head on a swivel. He already knew about it. Which I'm going to implore parents right now. You need to get involved. And if you should know, if you don't have a security guard at your school, you should demand one. Ours is armed. They have a couple of them. And the first thing he actually said to me, Katie, I know we deter people here because I see them, we're in Southern California, we have a homeless population, we have mental problem, mental, mental health issues, people going up and down the street. And he's like, I know we've deterred people from coming in here. And I can only say that it hits home. Those kids were praying and for the mayor of Minneapolis to come out and say things like this is not the time for prayers or whatever he said. I'm not going to say what I said to myself. It was a cuss word. He can go himself. But at the end of the day right now, I can assure you all the Catholics in my kids school are praying because they know about it. And any Christian around the world should be. And that is what you do. You pray more. And this is an act. I even told our security guard today, if you need more resources, you let us know. We will find the money. And I think more parents need to get involved in knowing that. And you should know your community at a public school or a private school and that you demand that somebody is outside at least protecting because that church where my kids go to, to pray when they have mass is more fortified than the one probably that was there today. And I doubt that they had security guard because that person would have been dead in about half a second.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you for the call, Katie. I endorse everything that she said. I said this right after the Covenant School shooting. We have armed officers at my public school kids school. We have armed officers at my older kids private school. I want every school in America to have armed security inside of it. I want your kids, my kids, everybody. I think it's important Buck what she just said. I also think a lot of kids need to learn that they can trust police officers, especially when they're young, that police officers are their allies, not their enemies. I think that having armed Security at every school makes sense. K to 12, public, private, all of them. I soundly endorse it. And if your school doesn't, I would say it's probably worth having conversations about why they don't.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, you could, you could hire right now a hundred thousand veterans and pay them $100,000 a year. You know, a nice salary. You know, that's depends on where you are. I mean, if you're in a, like, midwestern state, that's a really nice salary. If you're in, you know, some of the major cities, it's a fine. It's a fine sal. But it's a good living, right? You're making six figures. It's a good living. And it cost $10 billion. Now, I know that's a lot of money, but for our federal government, I mean, for, for the money that we. You going to tell me what we.

[Clay Travis]

Spend on public schools that doesn't have anything to do with direct safety of kids? Again, I want for your kids, same thing I want for my kids. Public, private. I want everybody to have armed security. By the way, she referenced the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey Fry. I knew it was going to be a.

[Buck Sexton]

Sorry, Go ahead, go ahead.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I was just going to say we haven't played this because I'm not surprised. It's the same guy who cried and got on his knee and wept at the George Floyd funeral. He said, now's not the time for prayer. Basically, I think that's what she's referencing. And let's go ahead and play it for you guys. I didn't want to play it early on because it's predictable. And also I think it actually detracts from the legitimate things we're talking about, trying to pray for the innocent victims, the four kids who had to potentially have surgery at the Minneapolis area hospital. But this is Mayor Jacob Frey Fry. Right after the shooting, every one of us needs to be wrapping our arms around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster. These were Minneapolis families. These were American families. And the amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary. And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the first week of school. They were in a church. These are kids that should be learning with their friends. They should be playing on the playground. They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence. And their parents should have the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of basic assurances that every family should have every step of the day, regardless of where they are in our country. Okay, that's different than what I thought we were playing. He basically. He basically said as part of this discussion, your prayers effectively don't matter. And that is what many people are reacting to. And what, you know, frankly is. Is the real conversation here should be, we got a trans terrorist. How do we stop this from ever happening again?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I mean, the mayor of Minneapolis is a gutless little weasel just putting that out there. We've seen that for a long time. No surprise. A lot of people have been harmed. A lot of bad things have happened. Because he's a coward who thinks that, you know, singing Kumbaya and everyone holding hands together and doing vigils for social justice instead of allowing people to be safe, you know, in their homes and walking down the streets is important. But I would just say this, Clay. I knew, and a lot of you knew this, too. Look, we don't want to do that thing here on the show of throwing out guesses just on the gut feeling, but if you had, I can tell you this.

[Clay Travis]

I texted myself, we said it off air. We said it off air. We were like, hey, so we'll say.

[Buck Sexton]

It to each other. Because I, you know, we don't. We don't want to be. We don't want to tell you information that we have to correct ever. That's why we try to be very precise as the breaking news is coming out. And then if we're ever wrong, as you know, we'll code red ourselves on it and we'll come out. You know, I mean, I got one wrong recently on the economy. Size and things happen. I'm still sad about it. My point is, Clay, if you had asked me, I texted my family this morning, they said, who do you think this is? And. Or, you know, who do you think is behind this? As soon as I saw. I was at church as kids, I mean, this is a left wing loon. Sent them right away. It was just. It just based on what happened here, left wing Luna immediately went to Coventry. In my head, and you and I were talking that this looks like Coventry, looks like almost a copycat to the Coventry shooting.

[Clay Travis]

And.

[Buck Sexton]

What I can tell you is when the mayor came out and he was, you know, rending garments and crying and all emotional about it. I'm not saying that's not the proper response. It is the proper response. However, if it had been a situation of a shooting and it was a white male who was in any way identifiable with Trump or with you know, guns, militia, whatever, anything that is right wing coded, he would have come out sad and then transitioned right away to righteous indignation. Why hasn't President Trump condemned, you know, blah, blah, you know. Exactly. But he didn't. And he didn't because he already knew that this was a he, she situation. And that's what we were dealing with.

[Clay Travis]

That's 100% right. And a lot of you are hearing all of this. MSNBC and CNN and the New York Times and the Washington Post are going to mostly not cover the trans terrorist angle to this shooting.

[Buck Sexton]

And if they can, I tell you what I said, I think there's going to be actually coverage of it in this. They're not really, here's what they're going to do clan. And any of you are curious about this, I want you to, if you can stomach it, check out like a prime time, just the opening monologues in Ms. They're going to cover this in a strictly news like, okay, here's what happened, everybody, here's what happened, here's what happened. And then if there's converse, they're not really going to do analysis of it. And then tomorrow the analysis will be on these shows. We have to be on guard for anti trans violence from the MAGA community. This is what they do.

[Clay Travis]

That is very likely. I also think the way they'll cover it is as criticism. They'll say Trump supporters immediately addressed the trans terrorist connection here as if we're the ones who are behaving in an inappropriate fashion. And then you're right, it will lead to. But the trans community is actually always the victim.

[Buck Sexton]

The real victims here, the real victims. And in the broader sense they will say the real victims of MAGA or the trans community. And you'll say the victims are the little children who are just shocked by this left wing psychopath who believes in all of this left wing ideology, including his hatred of, of Donald Trump, which is very explicit, written on his gun. And the I'm a terrorist thing, I think is a tip off that he's a terrorist. Putting that out there too. All right, look, no way to talk about this other than a big hard turn. Let's, let's, let's all shake off for a second. We're talking about really serious stuff. I'm taking you to a totally different direction for a minute. So take a breather, take a breath and get ready for some good ranchers because it's going to be steak night coming up here this weekend in the Sexton household. I got my trusty cast iron skillet and man, I get that thing so hot to get the perfect sear on my Good Rancher steaks. I've cooked for Clay and actually I was the one doing the cooking. I haven't had Clay really good, but we know, we know that, we know that may not go so well. Clay's not really into the chefing, but he doesn't chef it up as much. But Clay said it was good. Good Ranchers is fantastic steaks but also quality beef, chicken, pork and salmon. All of it together. And Good Ranchers is all about supporting American ranchers and American farmers, raising cattle, chicken and pigs here in America the right way. I'm a subscriber. Clay's a subscriber to Good Ranchers getting a new shipment every month and when you get your own subscription, you'll be getting 25 bucks off each month. You'll also get free shipping and a free gift in every order for life. Choose from their bacon, their seed oil free chicken nuggets which are also gluten free. I absolutely love these things or their Wagyu burgers. You can swap each gift every month to try something new. It's an amazing deal because they really want you to try this. You're going to love it. Visit good ranchers.com good ranchers.com use my name Buck as your promo code. Get a one time $40 discount plus a $25 discount ongoing in future months. That's good ranchers.com promo code Buck news.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

We do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday.

[Buck Sexton]

And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got a quick turnaround, so just gonna tell you where we're going in the next hour. More conversation here about the trans terrorist shooting up in Minnesota in Minneapolis at the Annunciation Church. And Clay, there's a lot of conversation to be had about this. We'll also talk to our friend David Rutherford, who's a dad, a patriot, a former Navy Seal. Talk to him about some of the security aspects here, what he thinks about putting particularly I think more veterans who are trained in with firearms in places to just provide us more security, especially in gathering places, religious institutions, schools. We'll talk about all that coming up here in a few minutes with Dave Rutherford. And in the meantime, I just want to tell you I'm on my third cup for the day because I baby was wake, baby was waking up mommy last night and a little bit of daddy. So I I'm relying on Crockett Coffee right now to get me through the day. This is the best coffee you'll get anywhere. It's delicious stuff. Crockett Coffee.com CrockettCoffee.com I've used code book. You'll get a signed copy of Clay's American Playbook. And honestly, you can try the mushroom coffee. If you've never had it before, get.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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