Hour 2 - Vaccine Questions

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Host: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Episode: Hour 2 – Vaccine Questions
Date: September 4, 2025

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Overview

This episode navigates the highly charged topic of vaccines—both COVID-19 and the broader childhood immunization schedule. Clay and Buck dissect the failures they see in the medical establishment’s handling of the pandemic, the backlash against vaccine mandates, questions from parents about the current vaccine schedule, and broader skepticism around big pharma. The episode is characterized by skepticism of government and medical authority, reflection on changing societal trust in doctors, and personal anecdotes about approaching healthcare choices. Notably, the hosts’ tone is combative, irreverent, and often humorous as they vent frustrations and field listener reactions.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. The Medical Establishment and COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates

[02:28–05:58] Buck Sexton, Clay Travis

• Buck launches a blunt critique of how government agencies and the medical profession managed COVID, especially vaccine mandates:

  • "It was the absolute abdication of impartiality, science based medicine and basic responsibility by the medical establishment during COVID... It is unforgivable. There is no excuse for it." — Buck Sexton [03:24]

• Outrage at enforcement: Buck criticizes airline attendants for aggressive mask enforcement, likening them to "Soviet gulag prison guards" [04:50].

  • "Think about the mentality... They enjoy the little thrill of power and harassing other people. There's something deeply wrong inside of them." — Buck Sexton [04:53]

• Shift in state policy: Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo (clip played) announces ending all vaccine mandates in Florida under Governor DeSantis.

  • "The Florida Department of Health, in partnership with the governor, is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates in Florida." — Dr. Joseph Ladapo (Clip) [05:49]
  • Buck emphasizes: "Every last one of them. Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery." — Buck Sexton [06:03]

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2. Parental Skepticism & Personal Choice

[06:42–13:50] Dr. Oz, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton

• Dr. Oz opposes mandates:

  • "I would definitely not have mandates for vaccinations. This is a decision that a physician and a patient should be making together. The parents love their kids more than anybody else." — Dr. Oz [06:42]

• Clay on vaccine schedule doubts:

  • Shares he never questioned shots before COVID, but the pandemic made him rethink public health advice for his three sons.
  • "As soon as COVID happened, I said, my kids are not getting the COVID shot... I have a lot of questions about why we have the number of shots that we give our kids now." — Clay Travis [07:24]
  • Questions rise via comparison: "It seems like they get a lot of shots, more shots than I got when I was a kid. More shots than any of you out there in your 30s or 40s or 50s or 60s got." — Clay Travis [07:56]
  • "It feels to me like we have a lot more sick kids now, a lot more allergies with kids, a lot more public health issues with young kids now than we used to." — Clay Travis [08:18]

• Buck on risk-benefit and alternative schedules:

  • Describes working with a Florida doctor who recommends a more spaced-out, selective approach to vaccinating his son: "It's a total risk benefit analysis and, you know, not being told, get this or you're not allowed to go to school, or get this or you're a bad person." — Buck Sexton [10:45]

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3. Cultural Shifts: "Anti-Vax" as a Pejorative, and Broad Pharma Skepticism

[10:48–13:18] Clay Travis, Buck Sexton

• Labeling dissent: They argue that questioning vaccines turns parents into targets for criticism rather than encouraging debate.

  • "They have turned parents asking, hey, are my kids over medicated? Into a design to attack you for asking questions." — Clay Travis [10:50]
  • Clay’s personal preference: "I don't want to take anything... I don't even like to take Tylenol." [11:16]

• Reflection on pharma incentives:

  • Clay: "All of these drug companies need you sick in order to basically exist as companies. Now I'm not maligning all drugs... there are lots of things out there where the drug companies have done an amazing job helping people who otherwise would not be able to exist in the larger society to exist." [12:43]

• Buck acknowledges effective medications:

  • "If you don't want to have a heart attack, you know, statins are really effective. They save a lot of lives." — Buck Sexton [13:18]

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4. The Healthcare System and Obamacare Critique

[13:50–15:00] Buck Sexton, Clay Travis

• Buck critiques Medicaid, Obamacare’s effectiveness, and the escalation of healthcare costs, referencing the “Oregon Study.”

  • "The most thorough randomized controlled study of healthcare outcomes ever for Medicaid patients showed that having Medicaid or not having Medicaid made no difference in actual health care outcomes. None." — Buck Sexton [13:50]

• Clay points out rising premiums and declining satisfaction:

  • "Are you getting better health care now? You are absolutely not. And in fact your health care premium has gone up 150%, something like that, on average. So yeah, it was healthcare socialism... including lying about it." — Clay Travis [14:27]

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5. Lightening the Mood: Sports and 'The English Patient'

[25:10–35:09]

• Buck talks tennis, U.S. Open, and personal serve speed goals.
• Both mock themselves and internet critics, lampooning how anyone performing at a high percentile is still endlessly second-guessed on social media.
• Humorous reminiscence of awkward date movies, especially 'The English Patient' and its infamous dullness—a running joke.

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6. Listener Talkbacks: Trans Issues and Gun Rights

[42:22–46:37]

• Clay shares a poll about whether those undergoing trans treatment should be able to own firearms (reaction to the possibility DOJ might restrict gun access for people on certain medications).
  • "80% of people said, yeah, if you are getting trans treatment, medical care, I don't think they should be able to buy guns." — Clay Travis [22:06]
• Buck notes political complexity:
  • "Because our Democrats suddenly going to support trans rights by saying trans people be able to buy guns? ... The politics on this are actually, I think, super kind of interesting." — Clay Travis [22:38]
• Buck extends the question to other mental health disorders: "If somebody told me that they were severely bipolar and unmedicated... Would I want to stand next to them at a shooting range?" — Buck Sexton [23:23]

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7. More Listener Feedback and Pop Culture Diversions

[46:13–47:59]

• Listeners chime in with corrections (the 'English Patient' Seinfeld episode), surprising movie opinions, and a note about Jussie Smollett’s early acting roles.
• Clay and Buck riff on expectations of listener voices versus their tastes, continuing playful banter.

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Notable Quotes

• “It was the absolute abdication of impartiality, science based medicine and basic responsibility by the medical establishment during COVID... It is unforgivable. There is no excuse for it.” – Buck Sexton [03:24]
• “I have a lot of questions about why we have the number of shots that we give our kids now.” – Clay Travis [07:24]
• “They have turned parents asking, hey, are my kids overmedicated? Into a design to attack you for asking questions.” – Clay Travis [10:50]
• “It's a total risk benefit analysis and, you know, not being told, get this or you're not allowed to go to school, or get this or you're a bad person.” – Buck Sexton [10:45]
• “Are you getting better health care now? You are absolutely not. And in fact your health care premium has gone up 150%.” – Clay Travis [14:27]
• “If you don't want to have a heart attack, you know, statins are really effective. They save a lot of lives.” – Buck Sexton [13:18]
• “Who am I as a government or anyone else? ... to tell you what you should put in your body?” – Buck Sexton [06:03]

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Tone

• Unapologetically skeptical of authority, regulatory bodies, and pharma.
• Candid, irreverent personal storytelling and confessional admissions.
• Audience interactive with numerous listener counters, polls, and talkbacks.
• Mix of serious advocacy on parental freedom, and lighthearted banter (pop culture, sports, and nostalgia).

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Conclusion

This episode is a candid, sometimes combative critique of vaccine mandates, the evolution of American healthcare, and the new skepticism many parents feel toward pediatric medicine. Through humor, pointed anecdotes, and direct listener engagement, Clay and Buck voice frustrations that have become common among their audience, positioning themselves as open-minded skeptics and defenders of personal choice.

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For further discussion:

• Dr. Nicole Saphier joins later for an expert medical opinion
• Upcoming: Clips from RFK Jr.’s testimony on Capitol Hill

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Transcript

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Second hour of play and buck kicks off right now. And let's talk about something that is guaranteed to not stir up any controversy. Vaccines. Let's have a vaccine discussion, shall we? We have some changes afoot thanks to RFK junior senior at hhs, Florida Surgeon General Joseph Platypo and others who are making moves and changing things up after what we saw, in my opinion, and I think many share it, I know Clay shares. It was the absolute abdication of impartiality, science based medicine and basic responsibility by the medical establishment during, during COVID And that was during the, the early days when Trump was reliant on that, on those agencies to act the way that they were supposed to at some level. And then during the Biden years where it just got worse and crazier and more absurd. I just want to tell you something that immediately annoys me is when anyone says they did the best they can. It was complicated. No, absolutely unacceptable. Because they weren't arguing then. They weren't arguing we need a vaccine mandate because things are complicated and we're not sure, but we think that this makes sense given they were saying, shut your face. I don't want to hear it. You're not allowed to go to church. You're allowed to go buy weed, but get the vax or you lose your job. Get the shot or you can't go to a restaurant. We know what's true here. We know what the facts are. They did that and then they were wrong on top of it. It is unforgivable. There is no excuse for it. And people in the medical profession who pushed this and went along with this should be ashamed of themselves. The airline attendants who were enforcing, you know, masking at their whim, that in some ways was the absolute worst. Like they actually. There were people, and I know this has happened to me, there were people who thought, you know what? I'm going to go up to someone now. Your mask has been off your face while you're eating a little too long. I'm going to tell you to please cover up. Think about the mentality. I mean, these are the people the Soviets used as prison guards in the gulag. They enjoy the little thrill of power and harassing other people. There's something deeply wrong inside of them. They didn't have to do it. I mean, that's the case. I always go to Clay because you could have just not been a psycho and said, okay, they're eating. I'm going to let them eat their food. You know, that's within the rules. But no, no mask up between bites. Sir, you're taking a little too long. Could you mask up between bites? The people who did that should forever hang their heads in shame because they're morons and they're Sheep. And they're the reason that there are totalitarianisms that still exist to this day, to this day around the world, unfortunately. In fact, the second largest, I mean, the second largest country in the world is a totalitarian dictatorship. So what does that tell you? Now let's get into the pushback against the madness here. First of all, Florida Surgeon General, Harvard trained Dr. Joseph Latapo spoke about ending the vaccine mandates in this state, the great state of Florida under Ron Desantis Stewardship, a fantastic place. Play 14. The Florida Department of Health, in partnership with the governor, is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates in Florida.

[Clay Travis]

All of them. All of them.

[Buck Sexton]

Every last one of them. Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery. Who am I as a government or anyone else? Or who am I as a man standing here now to tell you what you should put in your body? Who am I to tell you what your child should put in your body?

[Clay Travis]

I don't have that right.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay. Can I also just, just throw in there before Dr. Oz also? We, he. We're going to have him on today, but we got Nicole Safire on later. We needed to bring some MD expertise. Here's Dr. Oz. Against vaccine mandates.

[Dr. Oz]

I would definitely not have mandates for vaccinations. This is a decision that a physician and a patient should be making together. The parents love their kids more than anybody else. I could love that kid. So why not let the parents play an active role in this? There are some states now we're seeing an increase in homeschooling because parents are running from the health care system. They can't get health care because doctors are unwilling to take the risk of taking care of children who don't want vaccinations because it might impact the way their practices are run. They shouldn't feel pressure from the government to decide what to do with the vaccination schedule. They should do what's the best interest of the person in front of them that sees a child and what those parents desire. That's how the system is supposed to run.

[Buck Sexton]

The floor is yours, sir.

[Clay Travis]

This is one of those situations where, frankly, Covid made me question a lot. And I bet there's a lot of moms and dads out there that are the exact same as me. I didn't question anything on the vaccine schedule for my kids. I've got 17, 14, 10 year old boys. Obviously we haven't really been through the vaccine process in a long time, but as soon as Covid happened, I said, my kids are not getting the COVID shot. And I was looking at the data. Thankfully they did not get the COVID shot. I think that a lot of parents out there who did get their kid the COVID shot, probably some of you are listening to us now because you were still willing to go along with the public health establishment. I, I have a lot of questions about why we have the number of shots that we give our kids now. I do. And look, I am not going to go through the buck. You now have got a baby boy that I remember thinking. It seems like they get a lot of shots, more shots than I got when I was a kid. More shots than any of you out there in your 30s or 40s or 50s or 60s got. And I just look around and I do feel like much of what RFK Jr. And the Maha moms are saying is true. It feels to me like we have a lot more sick kids now, a lot more allergies with kids, a lot more public health issues with young kids now than we used to. And.

[Buck Sexton]

I can tell you this, Clay, this is an ongoing discussion in my house right now. And we are doing both a slow, a spread out in the vaccine schedule, as in like taking time between them and also doing a, a la carte system for the vaccine system or the vaccine choices, as in we have a very good MD down here who was, you know, look, if you're going to be my kid's doctor, I got to tell you this, you better not still have a mask up sign in your office, which does still exist in some places. So this doc lives in reality and lived in reality during COVID because he was a Florida based doc, so he's really good. But I'll just tell you this. I said, doc Kerry and I were in the office and I said, okay, so we can get this one shot and there's another shot that maybe we get. And he basically was like, look, you know, I was like, I don't think we need to get that second vaccine. What do you think? He goes, no, you don't need to get that one. That one, really, I don't think. And then I said, okay, the first one though, what do you think about this one? He said, look, I'll tell you this. He said, I've looked at the safety profile for a long time. It's gotten, it's gotten even better over the years based on what's in it. You know, he's kind of a more holistic doc. And he said, I'll tell you this, what this prevents, it basically is for a form of pneumonia that babies gets. He said when I was doing my residency, it was actually in New York. When he was doing his residency in New York, babies would come in every day and die from that.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

So he said something. I would advise this one for this one. I would advise. It was still our choice. It was still our choice. But those are the kind of conversations I think that need, you know, it's a total risk benefit analysis and, you know, not being told, get this or you're not allowed to go to school, or get this or you're a bad person.

[Clay Travis]

I just, again, I think that there are a lot of, you know, they turned anti vax into an insult. I actually think it is not. Most people are not anti vax on everything. 1, 2. They have turned parents asking, hey, are my kids over medicated? Into a design to attack you for asking questions. And my general position as a parent and I, I follow this myself is I don't want to take anything. I, I just, like, my wife makes fun of me. I don't even like to take Tylenol.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

Like, I am just a. I would rather not put things into my body if I don't have to and let my immune system work. I've never gotten the COVID shot. I'm glad I never got the COVID shot. And, you know, I hope that I can be healthy and live to 85 ish. That's the number that's in my head where I'm like, I'd like to make it to 85. That feels like a good target. That would mean I got about 40 years left and I want to ideally deal with the medical system as little as I possibly can. I'll give you an example, Buck. I was just talking about this off air and I'm going to give them a plug here. I'm over, I'm 46. And so they say, hey, you need to get a colonoscopy.

[Buck Sexton]

Right?

[Clay Travis]

Like, I don't want to go to the doctor and get anything. I, my wife has to get on me to go get a physical. Like, I just don't want to go to the hospital. I don't want anything. Um, I did this home colon, colon guard thing. It seems like an amazing invention. I, I send off my samples, they review it, they say, you're good. I don't have to spend two days getting a colonoscopy. Right. I feel like we are over medicated. And I feel like many parents out there feel this. And you're asking yourselves, is it imperative that my 6 month old be stuck up like a porcupine quill. I don't know that we need to be doing it, particularly when all of these drug companies. Again, this is important. All of these drug companies need you sick in order to basically exist as companies. Now I'm not maligning all drugs because Bucks pointed out, like, hey, if you are super bipolar, you need treatment, right? Like there are lots of things out there where the drug companies have done an amazing job helping people who otherwise would not be able to exist in the larger society to exist.

[Buck Sexton]

Or you know, if you, if you don't want to have a heart attack, you know, statins are really effective. They save a lot of lives.

[Clay Travis]

If you gave me a magic wand and you just said, clay, you have the ability to do something for health care aside from, you know, hey, everybody lives healthy to be 100, right? You know, something like that. I think we could swipe out kids in particular. I think we could swipe out 75% of all medical treatment on kids. And I think kids would have maybe a better health outcome than drugging them up like we have done.

[Buck Sexton]

This is the great unasked or unanswered, I should say question in the post Obamacare world because really what Obamacare was, it just made all of our health care more expensive to subsidize some people, including illegals as we know, to pay less for their health care. And it was a massive Medicare. Oh, sorry, Medicaid. Medicaid expansion. And the most thorough, it's called the Oregon Study, the most thorough randomized controlled study of healthcare outcomes ever for Medicaid patients showed that having Medicaid or not having Medicaid made no difference in actual health care outcomes. None. Not discernible in the least.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

So you say, well, where'd all this, what are you spending all this money on? Where, where's all the money going? And that's when you really start to see things. And, and you know one of the failures of the failure of Obamacare as a parent by just look at the cost of the average healthcare premium over the last decade. Do you think, are you getting better health care now? You are absolutely not. And in fact your health care premium has gone up 150%, something like that, on average. So yeah, it was healthcare socialism. Everybody, they just did it in a clever and, and creative way, including lying about it.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

It used to be the cable company, which I know it used to be. The cable company, which I actually. I always thought the cable company thing was good because it showed you what. It was a lesson in Monopoly for everybody. Because monopolies are bad. True monopolies are bad. They're only made by the state.

[Clay Travis]

My kids don't believe this. I was telling them about. I was like. They were like, how did you used to get games on? I was like, well, we had to get cable. And they were like, well, how does cable get? And I was like, you move into a new apartment. And the cable guy would be like, hey, I'm going to show up at some point between 8pm and 6pm and you basically had 8am 8am sorry, 8am and like all day they didn't give you, like a couple of hours. And they would say they would show up. You had to sit there and wait for them. And if you weren't there, they didn't show.

[Buck Sexton]

You had to call and say, pretty please, I'll bake you cookies, come tomorrow or the next day. Like you. Or they had you at their mercy. And that was reality.

[Clay Travis]

I remember one time when I was in college, pretty girl down the hall, we were jealous. Like, how did you get your cable hooked up already? And she was like, I put on a tank top when the cable guy was walking down the hall. And I was like, hey, can I get you to come? And like, yeah, Cable guys, like, yeah, of course.

[Buck Sexton]

They call this the Sydney Sweeney effect.

[Clay Travis]

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Trust and Will welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck People are riled up again. Mary Margaret Olahan at the end of the last hour I mentioned this idea that the Department of Justice may be considering saying if you're getting trans treatment, you're in the so called red line area. You're not able to buy a gun and I put up a Poll question, tons of responses rolling in. I bet we're getting a lot here, too. 80% of people said, yeah, if you are getting trans treatment, medical care, I don't think they should be able to buy guns. Now, this is going to be interesting politically, Right. Because our Democrats suddenly going to support trans rights by saying trans people be able to buy guns. And are traditional Second amendment advocates going to say, you know what? Given the shootings in Minneapolis and the shootings in Nashville and the drug treatments that I think may be partly involved in this reaction are like. The politics on this are actually, I think, super kind of interesting.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, if somebody told me that they were severely bipolar and unmedicated.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And. And sell. And celebrated their bipolarity, for example. And by the way, I'm not trying to pick on that, as it's a very serious illness. I've had friends who have dealt with it, but I just am pointing out. And then they said, well, Buck, I take people and give them the basics at the gun range. Sometimes it's something I do for friends and family. What I would I be like? Again, not, hey, I'm medicated. I'm fine. I'm somebody who says I have a serious mental illness and I choose not to get any treatment for it. In fact, I celebrate my mental illness. What I want to stand next to them at a shooting range.

[Clay Travis]

That.

[Buck Sexton]

That's. That's a tough. That's a tough ask, I think.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Being honest with you, as somebody who goes to the shooting range with regularity, you know, or if somebody even told me, you know, I'm. I'm a paranoid schizophrenic and I refuse to take any treatment for it. Let's go shooting tomorrow. That would feel weird. Does that make me a bad person? I don't think so. I think that just makes me reasonable. But that's where things. That's where this discussion, I think, is going to go very quickly. You know, it's a question whether someone's being treated or not.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got a lot going on, a lot of talkbacks and phone calls to dive into. I just. A little personal note here, clay. I'm about 30 years late on this one, but I felt like I finally just had to bite the bullet and do it. And I. And I watched the English Patient, which I had never seen before. That movie. That movie sucks. I mean, that movie is trash. You know, one, like nine Academy Awards. Back when the Academy Awards meant something. Like back when the. Back when the movies that you loved were what were. This is the 90s, right? The awesome movies would get nominated. Not all of them, but a lot of them would get nominated for Academy Awards. You ever seen the English Patient?

[Clay Travis]

I mean, I have not thought about the English Patient legitimately in probably 30 years. I went on a high school date to the English Patient. Like the worst. It was like the worst. I've tried to look up what.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, did you get. Did you get some, you know, I mean, like, was it a good date?

[Clay Travis]

Trying to make out. Trying to make out there in Schindler list. I mean, it's like the saddest movie ever.

[Buck Sexton]

It is a little tough. And the guy, yeah, he's. He's kind of a sad, sad case. Also, though, I want to be like, so you sold. You sold out. Like you love this chick was so important to you. Sold out to the Nazis, buddy. I mean, I know he was Hungarian.

[Clay Travis]

But I have no recollection other than it was in. I just looked it up. 1996. So I was 17 and I went on a date with a six. I was. I think I was a junior or senior. And I went out one year younger than me. And I was like, I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking. It's like the word. There's the Seinfeld, I think, where he.

[Buck Sexton]

Gets caught when they go to Schindler's List and he's. Yeah, he's making out during Schindler's List.

[Clay Travis]

English Patient is up There with Schindler's List on movies that it's the least difficult, most difficult to actually make out during making.

[Buck Sexton]

On the positive side of things, I find, go back and watch the movies of the 90s were fantastic. Like, that's when they were making great. So if there's a great movie from the 90s, generally speaking, and you haven't seen it, it's worth going to see. They don't make good movies anymore. I know I sound like it, like some old man, but it's true. They just don't make good movies anymore. Occasionally, something will pop up on Netflix that's worthwhile or Apple TV or something.

[Clay Travis]

Why did you watch. It's been out for 40 years. Why did you suddenly watch the. It was this Carrie's decision?

[Buck Sexton]

No, because I said, well, I was looking for a movie night film for us. You know, we had the baby and I had watched the Jussie Smollett documentary when I was babysitting on my own the night before because Kerry went to bed early. And that is incredible, by the way. The Jussie Smollett documentary on Netflix, it's. I mean, they do get into the, like, well, there are still questions. And like, Jussie Smollett is all. He's like, you know, I would never have done this.

[Clay Travis]

And he still participated in the documentary.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, yeah, he does interviews. But Clay, they take you through. I mean, I couldn't stop laughing. They take you through the first hour when you go back and actually see. So I just want to give you on the good side of things, the Jussie Smollett documentary, the first hour. And they have these detectives who are the early one, you know, the guys on the case, and they're just looking at everyone like, I mean, this is the dumbest thing. This is the most absurd thing we've ever seen. And of course, Kamala and Joe Biden, and they're all Jussie Smollett. It's just a great trip down memory lane. And that was back when Twitter was lib dominated and I had people, I had blue checks coming after me because I did a podcast when the story broke, Clay, and it was Jussie Smollett is lying. That was the title of the podcast. And, man, that was. That was a fun one. Like, how dare you?

[Clay Travis]

How dare you?

[Buck Sexton]

I'm like, yeah, sure, he would hold on to the subway sandwich and keep the noose around his neck. Like, walked into his apartment and then waited for the cops to come. Right? I mean, this is. It is bonkers. But no, if you, if you want to, if you have a movie night with your spouse or whatever coming up. If you got a. It rains here a lot in Florida now, so we have some rainy nights. 90s stuff is great, except for the English Patient, which is trash. I'm just giving you this 30 years late announcement because I had never seen it before.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's really funny because I haven't thought about the English Patient a long time and I just looked up the release date and it was the winter, fall of 96. So I was a senior in high school. I don't know what I was thinking. I mean, I guess I thought this is a romantic movie. I should take a girl to a romantic movie. It is. I have not thought about that movie.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't think that, that bad of a date. There are way worse date movies than the English Patient. You know, it's not like, I mean, the Schindler's listening obviously from Seinfeld was meant to, like, they're meant to find the absolute worst possible movie to try to make out with somebody during. And yeah, there, there are, there are other, other movies that I would say would be far, far tougher to watch than, than that one. All right, we got some talkbacks here. Probably not about the English Patient, but here we go. All right, Glenn FF Glenn from Ohio, who listens on WMAN radio. Play it, Dave Buck. It's Glenn from Mansford, Ohio. Clay's always talking sports and this is your week to shine in sports. Let's hear some commentary about the tennis US Open. Great tournament. Plus it's in New York. And also, how about an update on your serve speed? I don't think I've heard that or I missed it. Thanks. All right, you're asking for some U.S. open. I have been watching at night, so I've been trying to space out my babysitting routines here for a little Speed, which is my son's name, which I think you all know. So I've been watching the Open, Clay. I. I think it's heading toward Alcaraz center in the final. And I think that Sinner is going to win the whole thing. I know a lot of people would say Alcaraz. It's, it's a great time for, for men's tennis. As for my serve, I will tell you, I have now gotten. I have not given up. I don't want any of you to think that this is like, oh, like I went out there one time before the show for 30 minutes in the sun. It's Very hot out there. Some of you notice. Why are you so sweaty? I don't know. Because it's 104 degrees on this court. And I got. Hold on, hold on, hold on, buddy. Hold on. I got top of the line now. For civilian home use. I guess it's all for civilian use. It's not military. But for civilian home use, I got a better radar gun, and I'm ready to go and get out there. It's got, like, a tripod, the whole thing. Because the radar gun, it's. The one you hold in your hand, is trash because it has to be right in line with. So I showed you guys one serve at 97 miles an hour. I have to serve it 15 times to get one reading. Basically, like, it never. The readings are not good. So I got something that should be way better. And now the only challenge has been rain because the courts get wet here every day, so you can't play. And there's only outdoor courts where I am in Miami. But the answer to your question is, before the US Open is over, I plan to be out there, and we will break 100, my friends. We will break 100.

[Clay Travis]

I am curious to hear and interested to see. So, Laura Travis, was that.

[Buck Sexton]

Look at that. Look at that vote of no confidence. Three more mph, you know, Three more mph. I don't know. You know, you might throw your shoulder out on that one. I know. The other thing I'll tell you is it's amazing how everybody. Everybody on the Internet is a. Is a firearms expert and a tennis expert. It's fascinating. You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, really? Really? Everyone's. Everyone's got commentary going.

[Clay Travis]

And I'm like, it is funny for things that, you know, 95% of people can't do. How many. And look, it could be anything. Like, I'll give you an example. You and I could both bench 225 pounds. That is, for most men in their 40s, something that they can't do, right? Somehow, the only people who comment are the people who tell you that you're super weak. Right? Like, almost no one can do that.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, totally.

[Clay Travis]

Like, and if I went. If I posted a video of me doing two or three reps, which I think is about what I would get, some guy would be like, oh, that's pathetic. And you're like, well, actually, it's like 98 percentile for men my age. Like, if you're in 90th percentile in anything, you're pretty good. And yet on the Internet, it seems to be made up by only guys who ridicule any. I mean it really is. And by the way, for women, the number of guys out there really pre girls, right? Pretty girl does something and first, one of the first comments is she's not that hot. It's like, well, who are you date, who are you married to?

[Buck Sexton]

Right?

[Clay Travis]

Oh yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

They like to say, they like to say mid is the deal.

[Clay Travis]

Excuse me?

[Buck Sexton]

Like, and people say like Margot, Margot Robbie is mid. I'm like, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

It's like, well, I don't think so. I don't know. I mean like Leonardo DiCaprio, if he wants to be like, she's not that good looking, I'd be like, okay. Well he's been dating 25 year old girls for 30 years. You know, he's kind of got a high standard. I can see that. But unless you're picking models for the COVID of Vogue, most girls that are like Sydney Sweeney, people are like, I don't really think she's that hot. I'm like, who are you dating? That Sydney Sweeney, she's not that good.

[Buck Sexton]

There's a lack, there's a lack of, of. This is a chronic thing online. There's a, in the, in the commentariat, in the comments section. There's a lack of objectivity that comes out. I saw this in the tennis thing. I, People were saying like my daughter plays D1 tennis for UCLA and she can serve that hard. And I'm like, yeah, she's an amazing tennis player. Like, what is, what are you saying? She plays D1 at UCLA. She could probably go on the pro tour. Like, is this a dunk? I don't understand. You think you're dunking on me? Like you're telling me, like, that's pretty great.

[Clay Travis]

It's, it's just yet like if you're in the 90th percentile on anything, you're pretty good at it, right? I mean that, that is. And yet on the Internet, if you're in the 90th percentile, it's, it's as if people are all, I mean even I guess, you know, you could be Michael Jordan and people are like, well, he's not actually that good. It was like, well, you know, maybe the greatest, probably the greatest basketball player of all time. I think maybe he knows a little bit more.

[Buck Sexton]

I do think to just close a little. First of all, the surf thing is not done. Just so you all know. There will be, there will be follow up. And second of all, so don't worry about that. And second of all, I think that you'll probably find out that Sinner, Sinner might become like the far and away best tennis player of all time. So we'll see. He did have a little issue.

[Clay Travis]

That's a bold call when you're talking about the joker Djokovic and how good he is right now. And then obviously following Federer and all.

[Buck Sexton]

Sojovich is on the downslope, right? Like he's almost 40. Speaking about being 40. But then the amount that he's racked up in terms of the wins, most all time majors. But it's really an Alcaraz or Sinner world that we're coming into here. And they're both phenomenal players and they're really fun to watch. It is also fun to see how tennis, I don't know if any sport in our lifetime has transformed more. I mean, you go back to look at like Jimmy Connors. Jimmy Connors looks like the guys that my dad plays golf with on the weekends. Like these are not, these do not look like elite athletes running around the tennis court hitting. I know the rackets are different and everything else. I mean now these guys are, they're all in incredible cardiovascular shape. They move incredibly well. The girls too, I mean, will. Look, women's tennis is a, is a great spectator sport, unlike some other things. It's not like the WNBA situation where people are told they have to watch it in women's tennis. Those women are incredible athletes. And it's a fun, it's a good.

[Clay Travis]

Spectator experience even, by the way. I think that's true across the board. And it's one sign of how people just continue to get better, even golf. There's not really John Dailies anymore or Angel Cabrera's for those of you out there, just kind of chubby, not very well. I'm not trying to take shots at John Daly or Angel Cabrera, but they were popular for that reason. There aren't really very many of those guys in golf.

[Buck Sexton]

I think you don't see guys with a 30 pound gut on them, smoking cigarettes at the seventh, at the seventh tee or whatever, wearing the plaid pants who are world class golfers right now. Like that you're not seeing.

[Clay Travis]

They don't exist anymore. And I think partly it's the amount of money, but also people are just more aware of how to get the most out of your body. And the discipline that it takes to become an excellent athlete now I think is higher than it ever has been before. When we come back, by the way, we'll hit some more of your talk backs reminder. We've got Katie Miller at the top of the next hour and then Dr. Nicole Sapphire as well. And we got some clips, a little bit of fireworks from RFK Jr. In his testimony on Capitol Hill. We'll play some of that for you in the third hour as well.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Brian from Massachusetts News Radio]

Hey guys, this whole trans gun ban thing, it's a no brainer in my opinion. I mean the left is the group of people that want to have red flag laws and pull your guns away for everything under the sun. You know, if you say you want to, if you you stalking somebody, you say you don't like somebody. They want to pull your guns away for the least little thing. But they want to allow guns for two people who have clear and obvious issues delineating reality. That's just, it's nonsense. It's. They definitely should not be able to have guns.

[Clay Travis]

I think Buck, it's going to turn interesting because of the politics here.

[Buck Sexton]

I think absolutely. You could see a push by the administration as well to add gender DYSPHORIA back into the dsm, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders, which is where it used to be. It used to be called gender dysphoria. That was what it was called. It was a condition. A condition to be treated psychologically. And they removed it. And now it's a civil rights cause. Well, that might have to change.

[Clay Travis]

Jj, is Eric in North Carolina? I didn't expect to get this criticism. Newstalk945, WPTI. He has this to say, you guys.

[Buck Sexton]

Need to stick to politics and sports because every time y' all talk about movies, you sound like a bunch of idiots. The English Patience is one of the greatest movies made just film wise. Can I just say, I would not expect Eric just based on his voice to be a big.

[Clay Travis]

Exactly.

[Buck Sexton]

I would expect him to be a big, like, fan of Dolly Parton. And maybe I would think Eric would.

[Clay Travis]

Be calling in like NASCAR needs to go back to when it was great, like the opening of.

[Buck Sexton]

He's going to say that, you know, Commando is the greatest movie ever made. Rambo, First Blood. I mean, you know, I was not expecting Eric to be that guy. Could do voiceover for like old westerns or something.

[Clay Travis]

Eric being a die hard English Patient fan and being upset that we didn't give it enough credit based on the way he started to talk. I would have lost a lot of money with like, final sentence, you know.

[Buck Sexton]

You know who makes some, you know who makes some great music? Liberace. That guy really has got some great too, you know, I mean, it's like, okay, you wouldn't know, you know. There you go.

[Clay Travis]

LL let's get her in here. Podcast listener. Christine, what you got for us? Hey, guys. Love the show. This is Christine in San Antonio, Texas, and on Seinfeld, Mr. Peterman fired Elaine.

[Buck Sexton]

Because she hated the English Patient. That's a great call. That's a. Now now I remember. I forgot about that. I knew it was a thing in the show. I'd been so long.

[Clay Travis]

I was young when I watched that guy. Liking the English Patient. The Peterman guy from Seinfeld. Makes sense. Our caller, Eric, North Carolina wouldn't have expected. What about Jody here, KK reacting to you and the Jussie Smollett doc.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, guys.

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[Buck Sexton]

Didn't know if y' all were aware. Thanks Love the show.

[Clay Travis]

Had no idea. Amazing.

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