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Buck Sexton
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Second hour of clay and Buck gets going right now and our friend Carol Markowitz is in the mix. Oh, Clay had to step away so it's just going to be me guys on the host side for the rest of the show. Clay is in Mississippi and he is doing an interview of a sports legend. I had not heard of the Fellow before, but apparently very important in the SEC sports world. So that's going on. And I am here with Carol Markowitz in the meantime. And Carol, you know what, first of all, congrats. Two years this week of the Carol Markowitz program on the Clay and Buck Podcast network. So there's, there's a lot of celebration going on all over the place today. A lot of celebration. Some people are saying a day of celebration. You know, we're gonna look into a day of, day of celebration everywhere. But let's, let's actually speaking of Trump, kind of let's. Just a few moments ago he said this, this has cut 30 guys on his Gaza peace plan. The signing of it. Play this one.
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Donald Trump
This took 3,000 years to get to this point. Can you believe it? And it's going to hold up, too. It's going to hold up.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, I mean, Carol, sorry, Clay's gone. Carol. Bold talk from Mr. Trump, but I think a lot of people are saying he's got the hot hand. Don't doubt him.
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Carol Markowitz
I agree. If anybody is doubting him right now is making a big mistake, I think that he is in a really good position to enforce this piece. I, of course, worry about what's going to happen in three years when he is out of office. I'm making the Trump 2028 joke because of this, but it's going to be really tough for anybody to follow in his footstep and to enforce the peace that he's established in the Middle East. I think that it is a very hopeful moment. It's a hopeful moment for that whole region. They should take this opportunity that Trump has given them and live peaceful lives.
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Buck Sexton
It's a huge moment for the Israeli people today with the return of those 20 hostages who were still held alive in captivity in Gaza. Carol, I do think, though it should be noted just how vile it is that there were hostages taken in the first place, that so many of the hostages died in captivity. And also while I know it's joyous for the families to have their loved ones back, the treatment of the hostages was horrific.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, it was appalling. And the world was largely silent about it. America was really the bright spot in this. And they, it really, it showed. It showed because when Britain or when France are now trying to take credit for this peace deal, when they really stood in the way of it at every opportunity, really appalling. But yeah, you're absolutely right. You know, my nine year old at one point during the last two years said to me, why doesn't Israel just take their people and hold them hostage, and then they could, you know, then they'll understand. And it's so hard to convey to him that civilized countries don't do this, that this is not the work of civilized people. They don't steal babies and their mothers and kill them in captivity is just, it's horrendous to even think about. And the fact that Israel is coming out of this strong and united is a real bright point for me.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, it seems the Israeli people recognize the, well, the incredibly momentous nature of what is going on here. And let's talk about that a bit, because when you and I haven't yet gotten into some of the details that have come out about the negotiations and specifically Trump's role in it. But, yes, it was only possible. And even his biggest detractors, some of his biggest detractors are admitting that without Trump, this deal doesn't happen the way that it did. But some of the regional players, you know, some of the regional countries put real pressure on Hamas here, too, which is an indicator, right?
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Carol Markowitz
It is. And hopefully that holds up as well. I hope that these countries don't backtrack on that. I hope they see Hamas as losers that they are, are. And the fact that the last two years didn't have to happen. October 7th didn't have to happen, and all the days since then didn't have to happen. So all the people who pretended that they wanted peace for the last two years, now that peace is here, I'd love to hear them celebrating. But you're right, the countries in the Middle east need to enforce this as much as anybody else does. They need to say to Hamas that the days of killing innocent people and doing things like this is over. More than anything else. They all need to accept that Israel isn't going anywhere. And I hope that they can do that. I know that that is a stret for a lot of the countries and it's a stretch for a lot of the people who have been radicalized, but that's the main goal here, is to say Israel is not going anywhere. How do we live in peace side by side?
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Buck Sexton
How do you feel about the prospects for Hamas being truly pushed aside in all of this? One of our callers in the last hour brought up that there's been some factional fighting inside of Gaza already between Hamas terrorists and this, this, this sort of entity, this group, It's, I believe, a family that has considerable sway inside of Hamasistan, if you will. And there's clearly a score settling and A jockeying for power that's going on there. But is it just going to be on Israel's shoulders once again that if Hamas starts, starts breaking the deal, NETanyahu and the IDF are going to have to go in there and finish them, right?
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Carol Markowitz
Well, absolutely. If Hamas starts breaking the deal, there's no question that they're going to have to go back in. But the real question is what if that area breaks out into a civil war? What if they are fighting each other? What is Qatar, what is Egypt? What do they do then? What do all the countries that are involved in this peace process do at that point? And it's hard to say because who are the good guys in that situation? Nobody really knows. And again, I'm hopeful about that, about this moment, but there are so many details here that are really large questions hanging over the whole thing. Again, I hope these countries all step up and do the right thing and enforce peace overall. But it gets really murky over there.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. Well, of course we're speaking to Carol Markowitz, host the Carol Markowitz show and which is two year anniversary normally also with Mary Kathryn Ham on the Clay and Buck podcast network. So walk me through some of the what do you see as critical for what comes next here? Because we haven't the first hour just, you know, Carol was this is amazing. So happy for the families. You might have heard some of it. You know, Trump giant win for him. You know, forget about Mount Rushmore. It should be Mount Trump more at this point. Right. I mean people are all very excited about this. But what comes next?
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Carol Markowitz
It's so hard to say because of that internal struggle and because they've been for so long radicalized believe that they could end Israel at some point. If the last two years have shown that region anything, it's that Israel isn't going anywhere. I think the Iran 12 day war was very instrumental in that. I think Qatar is thinking twice about their alliance with Iran at that point because Iran was supposed to be the lion that they were supposed to be the ones who would should they get involved in a war in the Middle east, that war would end very quickly and Iran would be the victor. Turns out that's not the case. So these countries needed this reality check. It's unfortunate that it came in such a way with so many people dead. But this is the truth. There is that they need to accept Israel and they need to understand that all of the previous things that they've done to harm the relationship of Israel with other countries, it needs to come to an End. They could have peace. That's what Trump is saying to them. You could live peacefully. You can have Gaza be a beach resort. You can be different. You can raise your children differently. That's really what, what I hope happens here.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, that's the huge mindset, shift that we're all hoping occurs here for these Middle Eastern peoples, Middle Eastern countries. So, so that aspect of it, I think, is, is very much to be decided. But there is reason to believe there's reason for optimism, I would say, in a, in a region where optimism has been in, in deeply short supply for a long time. And on the optimistic side of things, I mean, Carol, just looking at this from a, you know, former CIA targeting and, and that perspective, Hezbollah, weakest it has been in certainly recent memory. Hamas, weakest it has been. Iran, weakest it has been. I mean, you start to look at the regional evildoers, I mean, the malefactors, the bad players in all of this, and they have been substantially brought to heel.
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Carol Markowitz
They have. Yeah. And again, this couldn't have happened. A lot of the things that you mentioned could not have happened without the alliance between the United States and Israel. What always happens when Israel gets attacked, and this is true even when there's Republican presidents, they are stopped from finishing any of the jobs that they need to finish. In this case, Donald Trump gave Israel so much space to do what they needed to do and to not prematurely end the conflict, which is generally what happens. When I was in Israel last year or two years ago, many people said to me, you know, what always ends up happening at the end of these wars is our greatest ally says, that's enough. That's how the war ends. It doesn't end because we finished the job. It's because America says no more. This time, Donald Trump said no, they're going to get to do what they need to do to end this. And that's the only way peace is really possible here. Donald Trump has been a miracle for that region. And you hear Israelis today posting their thoughts online, and they're all so grateful and they understand that it was Donald Trump, it was President Trump who led the way on this. And they really, really get that it's America's role that has led them to peace.
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Buck Sexton
If you could speak also, Carol, to the perspective of a proud American Jew, as you are, and what it has been like for the last two years to see some of the, you know, yes, debate and discussion is always fine. And these are weighty issues of foreign policy and war and peace. But there was something Else that gained a lot of steam over the last two years here at home. Nevermind the Middle east. And I know it was troubling to see it was.
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Carol Markowitz
But I still think it was largely on the left. I know that the right is going through its own insane moment right now, but I still think it's so limited. Every poll shows that the right continues to be in the right place in terms of Israel, in terms of Jews and America. So I've been grateful to be a conservative these last two years because my non Jewish friends, my clays and my bucks have been so behind us and so amazing that it's been heartwarming and comforting and secure, really. I felt so secure in my conservative beliefs because my side was on the right side and there's a lot to that. A lot of my liberal Jewish friends have been scrambling the last two years and openly sad that none of their friends say a word about any of this. And don't talk about the fact that Jewish kids on college campuses can't go to classes and they're being harassed and sometimes hurt and their friends don't say a word. And I'm like, well, my friends said many words and I feel so grateful for you, so grateful for Clay, so grateful for many others on the conservative right. I think that we're in a strong place where no, we have a hopeful future and it feels good right now to be a Jewish conservative.
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Buck Sexton
Absolutely. Well, I still sit here and you and I have had this conversation before. Left wing, left wing Jews are. It's a little bit like left wing Catholics to me, but that's a whole other conversation. I'm just like, what are you doing? Like explain, explain to me how this is a thing that you are going to hold up, politically speaking. But anyway, I also, I know you have friends and even some extended family in Israel and you're on your husband's side, on shy side. What's the feeling like over there? I mean, just describe to me because I know you're in contact with them. How are they doing today?
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Carol Markowitz
Just such joy and gratefulness. His sister's sister is there and she's sending pictures from the hostage. Square has now been renamed Freed Square. And it's just, it's an amazing moment. I have to say that I think a lot of Israelis believe this moment as possible. I'm a very optimistic person. But I did not think this was going to happen. I really didn't. I thought those hostages would meet a terrible end in captivity. I have to admit that I didn't believe and I thought those yellow ribbons that people wore I thought they'd wear forever. So they had hope that I simply didn't have. I guess they had to have that hope. That hope being realized today, it just smiling faces. National holiday Biggest deal ever over there.
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Buck Sexton
Check out the Carol Markowitz show everybody on the Clay and Buck Podcast network. Also look for columns in the New York Post. Carol, hugs to you shy and the whole family and a great day and thank you so much for joining to share your thoughts on it.
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Carol Markowitz
Thank you Buck. Thank you.
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Buck Sexton
The huge historic day. Trump's Middle east peace taking effect. And we have the President in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, flanked by world leaders talking right now. Let's join and hear what he has to say.
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Donald Trump
Must be done to lift up the people themselves. But we don't want to fund anything having to do with bloodshed, hatred or terror, as has happened in the past, and for the same reason. We're also agreed that Gaza's reconstruction requires that it be demilitarized and that a new honest civilian police force must be allowed to create a safe condition for the people in Gaza. As I said earlier, I intend to be a partner in securing a better future. We're going to be working, you're going to be working with the United States, and we're going to make sure that the Middle east is going to be a safe and secure place. It's a very important place in the world. Means so much. There were so many people who said the Middle east, and this has been going for many, many decades. I've read it many times that World War III will begin in the Middle East. It's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. There was a time that you would have thought it could have, but it's not going to happen. There won't be World War Three, hopefully at all. But it's not going to start in the Middle East. We're not going to have a World War iii. If we're smart, it'll never be a World War iii. Our work begins right here and right now. From ancient times, this region has been extraordinarily mixed with respect to people, culture, religions, all of the different elements of national characters. Unlike maybe anywhere else on earth. And for 3,000 years, there's been conflict. For whatever reason, there's been tremendous conflict, always conflict. But today, for the first time anyone can remember, we have a once in a lifetime chance to put the old feuds and bitter hatreds behind us. And that's why so many people in this room, they didn't get along. Some didn't, but they're getting along now. This has brought the people together. This is the first time the Middle east crisis has brought people together as opposed to driving them apart. And to declare that our future will not be ruled by the fights of the generations past, which is foolish. So together, let's continue in the spirit of cooperation and goodwill that has finally brought us to this incredible historic breakthrough. If we do, together, we will reach the Middle East's incredible destiny. A safe and prosperous and beautiful crossroads of culture and commerce, faith in humanity and geographic center. This will be the geographic center of the world. So I just want to thank everybody for being here. I want to thank you all for what you've done.
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Buck Sexton
Amazing, amazing stuff from President Trump in Egypt, just there live. And honestly the best day I can remember in the Middle east, period. I don't have anything to say beyond that. I've never thought there was a more hopeful moment for that region and for all people over there who want peace. All people of goodwill, including of course, our Israeli friends and allies. October is Cybersecurity Awareness Month. We put so much of our personal info online because that's just the modern era we live in. But it comes with great risk. Online hackers, they're bad dudes and they can break into databases and steal our info. It happens all the time. They drain bank accounts, hijack credit cards, apply for bogus loans in your name. You need someone to have your back online. That's where lifelock comes in. Lifelock is your best defense, hands down. Lifelock monitors hundreds of of millions of data points a second for threats to your identity. 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It's such a boring and cheap way to get attention for content, whether it's written or spoken or tv. We don't do that. When there's problems, we say there are problems and we talk about how to fix them. When there are wins, we take a moment to describe and enjoy together those wins. And today is certainly a big win for the Trump administration, for Israel, and for the broader Middle East. And if you hear any growling in the background, it is because Ginger realizes that my lunch has made its way into the studio, and now all of a sudden, she loves me more than ever. Look at that. My little Australian labradoodle has decided that, you know, Trump is pretty great, but Papa Buck has some fresh cooked chicken nearby, so I got to make sure that she's not growling into the microphone here. All right, let's get. Let's dive into this. I think this is really interesting. The details, how Trump got this deal to go through. Wall Street Journal had a really excellent write up on this in the last 24 hours. And let me, let me share some of this with you. When Hamas leader Khalil al Haya first saw President Trump's plan for peace in Gaza, which demanded that his group disarm with few concrete steps to ensure Israel would end the war, his immediate reaction was no. The plan, heavily amended by Israel and presented to Hamas by the Qatari prime minister and Egypt's spy chief, looked nothing like what Haya had been led to expect. Haya, who less than a month earlier had been a target of Israel's audacious attack on Hamas in Qatar, told his visitors the group would keep its Israeli hostages until it had enforceable guarantees the war would end. But two days later, Hamas came back to Arab mediators with a yes, the deal hadn't Changed the pressure on Hamas had Egypt and Qatar told Haya the deal was his last chance to end the war, according to the officials. They pressed Hamas to understand that holding the hostages was becoming a strategic liability, giving Israel a source of legitimacy to keep fighting. End quote. Ok, this is really important because we often think of this as a US Israel, IDF action. Right. It's like we're negotiating, Trump is negotiating, Israel's doing the fighting, and we have intermediaries over there. But clearly the diplomacy that the Trump administration was negate. Engaged in and, and really negotiations more like a business deal than what I think your general diplomat would be engaged in. Right. Trump has a different approach to this stuff. I mean, diplomats. I've known State Department diplomats, I've been around State Department diplomats in an earlier life when I was a government guy myself. They don't get stuff done. It's just not a culture of getting things done. It's a culture of process. The State Department is, by its very nature a lethargic bureaucracy that mostly exists to exist because we gotta have diplomats somewhere, we gotta have open lines of communication with these different countries, et cetera. But generally, the results, overwhelmingly the results are really unimpressive. Trump comes in there and he's got sleeves rolled up. He's got his team led by Marco Rubio, whom I might point out Trump is saying is going to go down in history as the greatest secretary of state in our history. Now, I'm going to say I think Rubio. Full credit to Rubio for doing a phenomenal job so far. But if you're talking secretaries of state in all history, there have been some pretty big moves, you know. Right. Didn't one of them buy Alaska? I mean, there's been some pretty big stuff. So I don't. Yeah, I'm not saying Marco is not going to get there, but number one for Marco all time. Number one, maybe our lifetime. Sure. Number one all time. We still got a little work to do. You know, there's. There's still some things that have to be looked at here, but certainly it has been the administration's team that got us to this point, which is an incredible success. And the fact that you have these other Mideast countries that were willing to tell Hamas, you got to knock this crap off and end this war, like enough is enough, is really indicative, I think, of how much the pressure that Trump's team was bringing to bear had borne fruit, how much this was really moving the ball downfield because Qatar, as you know, the Israelis launched a strike in Qatar Then Trump had the whole, come on, you got to apologize. I mean, Trump has been the guy in the bar here who is holding back two guys who have really bloodied each other up. And one of them started it. That's Hamas. One of them is responsible for the fight. But he was able to stand in between these combatants and say, all right, you're going to knock this off. And, hey, you. If they knock it off, you're willing to. You're willing to let it go, right? You know, we're going to stop this thing. And you needed that. You needed that to get us to this point. But that Turkey would. For example, Turkey is way too favorable toward Hamas for a whole bunch of reasons. But that Turkey was willing to say, if you don't agree to this deal, were you're on your own. Basically, Turkey was telling Hamas, we're cutting you loose. That's a big. For people who have been following the region, and that's big stuff. You know, Hamas has been far too willing, or rather Turkey has been far too willing to be there in support of Hamas through. Through thick and thin. Finally it got to be too thin. Finally got to be too much. So this campaign that got the final. The final, really. Surrender, it's. Hamas is surrendered. It's a surrender with guarantees. But surrender is what this is, and that's what it should be. The members of Hamas who are still alive should consider themselves lucky. I know Hamas is a death cult, and they love sending other people to die and to kill as many innocent Israelis and Jews as possible. I know that's what Hamas really is at its core. But it's still for the leadership that somehow doesn't like to die. The Hamas leadership, they don't like to be suicide bombers. They want to send other people to be suicide bombers. But for Hamas leadership, they should count themselves very lucky, very fortunate that they still have their lives at the end of this, because Israel would have been well within its rights. And really, I have argued from the beginning, Israel had an obligation to wipe Hamas out after what they did on October 7th, and a moral obligation to the Israeli people and to the world to the degree there is an international community, to humanity. Israel had an obligation, a moral and ethical one, as well as just a national security imperative to hunt Hamas down. And they have done so. And they have been incredibly effective as well as ethical in that process. That does not mean perfect. War is never perfect. There will always be civilian casualties. There's always going to be collateral damage to a city. But now even it will become more Clear than ever. The people who were telling you that there was mass starvation in Gaza as a result of Israeli policy were lying. The people who are saying that Israel was engaged in a genocide were lying. This is going to become even more clear in the days ahead. Those voices are just going to try to fade, I might add. They're going to fade and you're going to hear a lot less of them. But what they were saying was a slander and it was morally obtuse. It was decrepit. It was disgraceful. And that is what they were doing intentionally, during a time of war to confuse as much as they could, America as an ally of Israel in this process. This was always very clear to me and to Clay and to Clay's immense credit. I know he's. He's away for the rest of the show today. We never coordinated response. We never had to say, well, you know, we're going to be disagreeing or agreeing on this or anything like that. But from the moment October 7th happened forward, we saw this through the same moral lens. And I think that's. I have a, obviously an international relations, national security background, but Clay is just a very high iq, high wattage guy, and also with a very clear sense of right and wrong. And so we never had static on this show. We never had a sense of, oh, but maybe Israel has gone too far, or maybe Israel is engaged in a genocide that never. And you know, this, you who have been listening for these two years, that never entered into our consciousness on the show for one second. And we followed this as closely as we could from afar. And Clay went to get ground truth in Israel, as you know, last, last December. But, and I'm very proud of that. And as I've been saying, I've had a lot of people come up who are listeners to the show, and I have a tremendous number of conservative Miami Beach American Jews who listen to this show. I know because when I'm walking the streets, they come up to me and they. The first thing they say is, great show. The second thing they say is, thank you for standing with Israel. And not, not, you know, abandoning would be extreme. But even being a bit wishy washy on it, you know, even getting to a place where you started, oh, I'm just asking questions, you know, is Israel really the good guy here or is the IDF really justified? Is no, none of that nonsense here for one second. And now that this conflict is over, I think people will be able to look back on it with even more factual clarity about who was accurate and who was playing propaganda with this stuff. So these are all important considerations. These are all things that I want us to remember as we move forward. And we will continue to cover this and look to see what happens with Hamas and look to see what regional players want a more stable and prosperous Middle East. But this is the question of the moment. Are there Muslim majority Arab countries, including now perhaps a majority of the Palestinian people, who want their lives to be about whether their kids are able to pick the careers they want, build the families they want, and have the futures that they want, or is it going to be suicide bombers, Allahu Akbar, and all the other nonsense and atrocities that we have seen for decades? That's really what it comes down to. This is a choice. The Israelis stand on the other side of this willing to say, okay, we can move forward with that positive, with that prosperous future. And America and other partners here are willing to be there in assistance to build a Gaza where the lights stay on, the water's clean to drink, the businesses can flourish. We can do that. You know, you know, Gaza can be. Amman, Gaza can be a safe, you know, reasonably happy and prosperous place, and everywhere has their challenges. But, you know, there's an old joke about, and I say this, I've been to Jordan, and I think the Jordanians are great people and they're actually great allies to America, too. But people joke around that it's the Hashemite Kingdom of boredom, because not a lot goes on there. Now, that's unfair. And there's Petra and there's a lot of cool stuff, but there's a very low crime rate in Amman. So it's said, really with praise, in a sense, that it's boring. It's very low crime rate and generally a stable place. Gaza could be a stable, reasonable place, too. It does not have to be some terrorist hellhole. Doesn't have to be that. And now maybe, maybe that can happen. And it will be because of the people that have seen this with clarity all along. And also brave IDF soldiers who took the fight to Gaza and did what was necessary. And President Trump negotiating this deal. President Trump ordering the strike on Iran. President Trump standing with Israel when they debilitated diminished Hezbollah. So all of this together puts us where we are right now. Something to really be proud of. Oh, we'll take some calls here in just a moment. You know, I want to ask you, what's for dinner? It's a question that more kids have asked, more moms making dinner than any other. Dinner was the meal that got everyone to the same table. But was it like that at your home? As our lives get busy, you don't always have dinner with your family, but Good Ranchers wants to remind everybody. Make time for that great tasting meal, especially with meat, chicken, pork and salmon from Good Ranchers. Make time for that family dinner from now through Thanksgiving. Good Ranchers is encouraging families to sit down and share a meal every Thursday. Doesn't have to be fancy, just has to be together. And here's the fun part. 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Carol Markowitz
Hey, Buck. Greetings from one tennis player to another. I wanted to just comment right now, no one's talking about who's not involved in any of this, and that's the UN And I was watching. I had to sound down, of course, but I was watching Fox News and President Trump's address that he recently that he just gave. And Kermer was behind him standing there looking like a deer in headlights, thinking, what am I doing here? How can I. How can I get the UN Involved? And to me, I'm hoping that this is the beginning of the end for the UN in as much as it's no longer relevant. I mean, if President Trump is going to have this Board of Peace, what is it? What function does the UN serve anymore? Now, Jim, obviously NATO.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. Jim, these are all great questions, and I think that the answer is the UN Is a little bit like, a little bit like the Emmys. Now, you know, it exists and maybe people are somewhat happy knowing that it exists for some reason. And we could debate that, but it doesn't really matter and it doesn't really do anything. So I think that's, I think that's increasingly where people are on the United Nations. It's a place where people gather to pointlessly talk about things that they won't change. Meanwhile, President Trump, who so much of the UN Faithful have had nasty things to say about over the years, President Trump is getting further along and getting more results than any UN Bureaucrat or any UN Consortium really has in decades. So yeah, we'll talk more about this, my friends. I'll give you more of the details of this deal, more of Trump's speeches from today, which are fantastic. Give me a wonderful third hour the show. Make sure you stick around for it. I'll be right back. Wishing the holidays could come early. If you own or manage your business, they can. With help from iHeartRadio, people are already shopping for their loved ones and hunting for deals wherever they can find them, including right here. They're listening to the radio. They're listening to podcasts. They could be listening to you. Don't wait for everyone else to kick off the holidays. Get your best season of the year up and running today. Call 844-844-IHEART or visit iheartadvertising.com When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies from prologue projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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