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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Second hour of Clay and Buck gets going. Right now, the protests in Los Angeles seem to be contained for right now, although elsewhere there are reports of efforts to spread this protest movement, including in Texas. I've seen San Antonio. I've got a whole, whole bunch of places that may have these protests in the days ahead. So we will continue to follow this very closely, and that's something that we want to keep an eye on because, yeah, it could flare up again. But in the meantime, I think this round has clearly been a victory for not just Donald Trump and the Republicans. It's just a victory for the rule of law, a victory for sanity. And this is why Gavin Newsom has decided, as the governor of California. Wall Street Journal piece today, Clay, naming him as the leader of the opposition. Right. That this is how he's trying to position himself, at least. And Gavin Newsom gave a speech last night which I think was very clearly directed at that outcome of, oh, Gavin Newsom is now the premier Democrat in America standing against Trump. Problem is, I think the politics of this are far more treacherous nationally. Not in California, sure, but nationally for Gavin Newsom than maybe he even realizes. But here he is, you know, that you knew this was coming, that the emotional blackmail, the. Oh, my gosh, these are the best people that are being arrested. Why is he allowing this? This is cut four. Gavin Newsom addressed California, really addressed the nation last night. Play it.
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Clay Travis
Trump is pulling a military dragnet all across Los Angeles, well beyond his stated intent to just go after violent and serious criminals. His agents are arresting dishwashers, gardeners, day laborers, and seamstresses. That's just weakness. Weakness masquerading as strength. Donald Trump's government isn't protecting our communities, they're traumatizing our communities.
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Unknown Host
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Clay Travis
And that seems to be the entire point. If some of us could be snatched off the streets without a warrant, based only on suspicion or skin color, then none of us are safe.
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Buck Sexton
I don't think anyone's going to deport Gavin Newsom. Okay, there's none of us are safe thing is absurd. I also think, Clay, that it's very clear, given what the Biden administration did, you can't. That 10 million number, they can't run from that. And. And everyone knows. Okay, so you guys, when you're in charge, the Democrats are in charge. The laws, all of a sudden, the same laws that bind us in so many different ways that we may or may not agree with. Right. Depends on what you're talking about. Those same laws include laws on immigration and on the illegal presence that is unfortunately far too common all across this country. When Gavin Newsom says this stuff and he goes, they're arresting dishwashers, washers, et cetera, a lot of people say, well, are they illegal? And if they are, the answer is okay, then that's the law.
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Miranda Devine
Yeah. And to me, this is not even about ICE or the raids or anything else. I think Gavin Newsom, who is a calculated guy, has made the decision, this is my way to launch my 2028 presidential campaign. And so remember, by January of 2027, there will be a full on presidential campaign underway. Iowa, New Hampshire, January, February 2028. I know it sounds like it's a long time away, but all of these guys are going to be raising money in the next 18 months. So that when they announce right after the midterms In January of 2027, heck, remember, Trump himself announced in November of 2022 that he was going to be running for reelection. And DeSantis really took it on the chin because he didn't announce until May of 2023 that he was running. And they tried to hold out for the Florida legislative session to be over. And Trump identified DeSantis as the only contender and basically started throwing punches at him immediately. And DeSantis waited a long time to respond. And by the time he did, it was over. Now, I don't know, once the raid happened on Mar a Lago In August of 22, if I'm remembering the chronology correctly, I don't know that anybody could have beaten Trump to be the nominee. But I think that the clear decision made by Newsom here is I'm going to run anti Trump, which is positive in the Democrat primary. This is the best way for me to distinguish myself. Here's the challenge. Gavin Newsom thinks that Americans still look to California and see it as an aspirational goal. The problem is most people don't see it that way anymore. And you've talked about this and I grew up in the same era that you did, Buck. Where California in the 90s?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Miranda Devine
Was it like a place that everybody wanted to be? California in the early 2000s was a place that everybody wanted to be. I think running as I'm going to make America more like California is a disaster. And this is one thing that I think Ron DeSantis was right about. And if we had gotten DeSantis versus Newsom in 2024, I think that DeSantis would have won comfortably. And if we get DeSantis versus Newsom in 2028, I think that Ron DeSantis would win comfortably. America doesn't want itself to look like California. And I think that Gavin Newsom is living a generation behind in the way that he believes America sees his state. That's, to me, what stands out here.
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Buck Sexton
I also think that they have done a very poor job of opposing Trump in a way that would bring over people who don't already hate Trump. Right. If you're trying to win over anybody who hasn't been anti Trump all along, they're all the stuff that they're saying about this, I think is creating a bigger problem for them in a lot of ways. Here's, here's an example. Cuomo, who may be the next governor of New York City. This is cut 29. This is now going over to New York. I'm going to say governor, mayor, mayor of New York City, former governor of New York, mayor of New York City, although this other guy we'll talk to the our New York experts here later on about this, the Democrat primary. But here is the former governor of New York saying something that I think you all need to hear. This goes into the diversity is our strength situation. Play 29 we are the capital of diversity. 180 languages spoken in our school system.
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Miranda Devine
180 different, different languages, people from all across the world.
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Buck Sexton
That makes us stronger, not weaker. That is actually not a good thing, Clay. It does not make now think about this. I understand people say, oh, but buck people from all over the world isn't so amazing. English as a second language instruction is a huge problem in a lot of public schools, an enormous drain on resources. And there are the kids who speak English are having a tough enough time getting to proficiency. You're bringing kids from all over the world who come from non English. I'm talking about I'm not talking about parents who show up who speak English or I'm talking about people whose parents speak very little, if any English, are on public assistance of some kind, which we know they can get in New York, we know they can get in California. Now they're in the school system. And now you're trying to teach them the skills and particularly, you know, the language skills necessary to operate at fifth grade, eighth grade, second grade, high school, whatever it may be, enormously slows down the rest of the class enormously obstructs and costs more in learning. But this is the thing. Oh, 180 languages are spoken. One thing that I want the Trump. And maybe we can bring this up tomorrow. English is the national language. English as the national language, full Stop that should. And I live in South Florida. I got to tell you, I love my South Florida. But we need more English as the national language down there, too. This is something that unites us all. How can you understand the law, truly understand the law in this country if you don't speak English?
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Miranda Devine
You can't. And I mean, I would just go back to the biblical story of the Tower of Babel. I mean, the goal of building a great building in the Bible was destroyed by the number of languages that suddenly everybody had to speak. And this is, this is why banal commentary like diversity is our strength is actually not true. Right. And what I mean by that is diversity of thought is a strength, but in order to communicate that diversity of thought, you have to be able to speak a common language. So in order to have diversity as a strength, there has to be an agreement on its baseline, foundational levels that allow the communication to take place. And I don't think it's a bad thing to have kids learning English. I think the problem that you're speaking of, Buck, is there are a lot of people who come to America and aren't bothering to learn English. They aren't trying to assimilate in some way to speak with the larger community around them. And 180 different languages. How in the world can a public school accommodate that kind of diversity of language when it comes to being able to instruct everybody? And so, look, I understand what, what Mayor Cuomo is trying to say, because, by the way, he's running for President in 2028 by winning new mayor's.
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Buck Sexton
Mayor's race. Yeah. But New York City last year had, by their own assessments, 50% proficiency at grade level in reading and math.
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Miranda Devine
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
So half of New York City public school kids. To be not proficient based on these public school standards means you are way below where you need to be. This is not. That's. Remember, proficiency is not. I'm getting an A. I'm good.
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Miranda Devine
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Proficiency means you can operate at that level, generally speaking. So to be non proficient. And so in that situation, you, you grow up, you're a. You're a kid, you're a Latino American kid, you're a black American kid in poor parts of New York City. And you're, you know, you want more attention, you want more resources, you want a better shot. And then you've got the illegal migrants who are showing up, 150,000 of them in one year in New York, I think, was that. It was the height of it. And then they're all going into These, the school system, of course, that's going to slow things down. Of course that's going to make the, the budgets of the school system more strained than they already are or, you know, they get a lot of money. But that's a whole other conversation. And it's just this is basic common sense. What other country Clay is prancing around and talking about how great it is or what are their politicians, maybe some places in Europe that have the same problems we do. But you don't have this anywhere else in the world where they say, you know what? We want as many people as possible to show up here who don't speak the language and know nothing about this place. Let's get that going on.
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Miranda Devine
Well, I think the challenge, too is you said that they're saying 50% of New York City kids are proficient in reading and math. One of the big problems we have in America today is that we continue to define standards of proficiency down. So it's not only that, yes, let's say 50% of kids are proficient. It's that proficiency in 2024 and 2025 is quite a lot different than proficiency in 1984 and 1980.
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Buck Sexton
And by the way, that actually, the way they shared that statistic, a third of New York City fourth graders last year were proficient in math, 1/3 proficient, 2/3 not proficient the fourth grade level. And once you get behind at those, look, we can, I don't want to make this just an education discussion, but the point here is people recognize there are very. This is why the, the bussing people to Democrat strongholds. Okay, fine. You want to play this game, go to New York, go to Chicago. Let those cities deal with it. This is what Governor Abbott Abbott did in Texas. Ron DeSantis did some of this as well in Florida, and it was fine. You take these illegals. Yes, they are very much a drain on public resources. And there are people that need those resources who are saying, what's going on here? Why are we devoting this to people who aren't even supposed to be in the country in the first place?
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Miranda Devine
No doubt. And again, I think the under sort of the foundational story that's going on here is you're already starting to see aggressive jockeying to win the Democrat primary. Prepare yourselves. If Andrew Cuomo wins the mayorship of New York City, and I think he will, he's going to run for President in 2028. This is his redemption arc. He can say the people of New York forced him out as governor. He's already saying he shouldn't have left that. He didn't actually sexually harass anybody. He's gonna say, that's in the past. I've done a great job as mayor. I'm just telling you what his argument's gon. And Gavin Newsom is coming against Trump because he's going to run. They're all setting up for that primary. And you're going to have New York top official. Kathy Hochul's out. You know, Chuck Schumer's not running. Maybe AOC will vote for me.
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Buck Sexton
I will no longer grab you around the waist or kiss you strangely on the side of the face.
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Miranda Devine
That is Andrew Cuomo on the show right now. Let me also point this out, Buck AOC endorsed Andrew Cuomo's top rival. That's this.
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Buck Sexton
You want to talk about a guy who keeps. Who holds grudges. Cuomo, famously a nasty infighter in politics who holds a grudge forever.
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Miranda Devine
But don't mistake. That's not because she cares who the mayor of New York City is. That's because she wants to cut Andrew Cuomo's legs out from underneath him. Because if he doesn't get elected mayor, she's the forefront New York national candidate in 2028. So sometimes you have to look at not just the text, but the subtext of what's going on. And I think you're already seeing the political jockeying for who is going to run in 28. And by the way, you know what Gavin Newsom will say? He'll say, Trump is the worst human who's ever existed in the Democrat primary. If he were the nominee, do you know what he'd try to do? He'd try to say, you know, Trump actually got a lot right when he ran for president in 2028. I had a good relationship with him. That's the pivot that you would immediately see. Sprint to the left, become the Democrat, you get elected anti Trump, sprint back to the center. Trump had good ideas, but I can implement some of them to appeal to moderate voters. He wasn't actually the Antichrist. He wasn't actually Hitler. But first you have to say, he's the Antichrist and he's Hitler. It's so predictable. But I think it's important to not just pay attention to what's being said, look behind what's being said here. Look, we don't talk about it all the time because not an easy conversation to have. But the will and trust universe is incredibly important if you don't want to burden your family members when your life passes you know, so many times out there, you focus on trying to make the life easier for your kids, for your grandkids. And you're doing that because you're working all the time. You're doing that because you're, you are trying to pay off that mortgage, you're trying to set up the college funds. You're trying to do everything you can to help your kids and grandkids. But are you taking care of tying up all the loose ends so your kids and your grandkids don't end up fighting after you pass? The best thing you can do is have a very defined will, a trust document that lays out for the people who you are caring about the most in your life so they don't end up fighting after you're gone, so that you are continuing to think about them even while you are alive today. And a lot of people just don't do that. You work all those hours, you do everything you can to help take care of your family, and then something unexpected passes and they have no idea what you would want and they end up fighting over what your wishes might be. Why not go ahead and eliminate that from ever being an issue by going to trustandwill.com they make it simple, affordable results will give you peace of mind right now. And your family members, the people you love the most. They have clarity. They're not arguing about what you wanted. You are deciding it for yourself again. It's not expensive, it's affordable and it will help take care of your family, which is what most of you out there are spending your entire lives trying to do. Go. I have this buck has this. Trustandwill.com they're experts in creating personalized trusts and wills that will protect your legacy and keep your family from battling after you are gone. What you would want want to do, just decide it now, once and for all. Trustandwill.com that's trustandwill.com.
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Jack Armstrong
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Miranda Devine
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
We'll talk to Miranda Devine here coming up shortly about her sit down with President Trump and looking forward to diving into all of that with her. Always a fun conversation there. We've also got some other stories we're gonna be diving. If you wanna take your talkbacks and, and your calls, remember, talk back, go to the iHeart app, which you should have, and the Talkback Phone number 888-282-2882 is our phone number to call into. Of course, you know that. And we will dive into all that here coming up shortly. And Clay might even have a sports idea that we're, we're starting to bandy about that we could get into. But you have to stick around for this one. We've got some. Got some wild thoughts. Did you. You offered already. What was it, 250k to somebody?
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Miranda Devine
I challenged Angel Reese, 100k me versus her to 15 by ones and two.
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Buck Sexton
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Miranda Devine
We're joined now by Miranda Devine. I think it's probably fair to say. Oh, we got Carol Markowitz, too. I was going to give you the title of our favorite person at the New York Post, but we really like Carol Markowitz, too. So I don't want to offend anybody out there. Miranda, you just had a sit down with President Trump in the Oval Office. It is ricocheting about the Internet now and there are many different things. I know that he told you what stood out to you the most about the interview that you had with President Trump from a news perspective.
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Unknown Host
Thanks so much. And Carol is great. She's a mate of mine. So I'm glad you like us both. Look, Donald Trump was just incredibly generous with his time and also his candor. He is just so frank, you know, sometimes like when we talked about Camp David, couldn't really he said, oh, I can't really talk about it. Then did say that they'd been talking about, you know, obviously Iran and Russia. He gave, you know, a lot of insight into his conversations with world leaders, his problems with Elon. He's sort of open to reconciliation, but, you know, not right now. He's too busy. And also some of his childhood experiences. You know, his father bundled him off to military school at 13 because he was so rambunctious. And his father wasn't terribly thrilled when they got back some aptitude test scores.
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Miranda Devine
For Doc, we might have just lost her there for a minute. Sounded like she popped out. I hope that doesn't mean that we've popped out. So I'm going to keep talking until the team tells me whether or not we've popped out. But Buck, this is Miranda Devine. The podcast called AirPod 1 and it is underway right now. And I do think it speaks to Pod Force One, sorry is the name of her podcast. She's back with us right now. Miranda, you popped out right there. You were talking about Donald Trump, talking about his dad shipping him off to military school and, and that's where we lost you. What did he talk about there?
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Unknown Host
So, yeah, his dad shipped him off to military school at age 13 because he was so rambunctious. He wanted to get him straightened out a bit. And also his parents sent him off to aptitude testing when he was a young boy. And his father was not altogether thrilled to find out that Donald Trump's genius is musical. He is a musical genius. Apparently he can pick a note and remember it, you know, an hour later. So he sort of laughed wryly and said, well, you know, that wasn't really a talent my father particularly wanted me to have. But his mother got him to after that. Learn a musical instrument and you will never guess what it was.
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Miranda Devine
Well, we played the audio already. Oh yeah. And the memes are rolling in because I have been attacking men who play.
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Buck Sexton
Clay has been attacking male flute players. He leaves the ladies out of this. But male flute players, he decides. Miranda, there's, there's some. Quay's asking questions. I asked too many questions for some of our flute players playing audience.
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Miranda Devine
If you have a choice to play any instrument in the world and you pick the flute, you have chosen very poorly. And I think that you cannot be trusted for anything serious. Now Trump said he might have had a great flute playing future, but instead he gave that up and became a multi billionaire developer. I give him credit for abandoning the flute and president.
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Unknown Host
Well, he said he didn't like it. So his mother had sent all these instructors to the house to get him taught to play the flute. But he did not want to play the flute. So that didn't last for very long. And I mean, it's just amusing. Of all the instruments, I can't think of one that's less appropriate for Donald Trump.
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Miranda Devine
By the way, he and Lizzo could have been out there playing the, was it the James Madison?
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Buck Sexton
Donald Trump could have single handedly rehabilitated the whole Flute image among the. Among the orchestral instrument and woodwind community. So there's a little bit of a loss here for us, Miranda, because I think that Trump could have, you know, he could have made flutes great again, and instead he decided to become president and try to save the free world. How is it, you know, this is one of these things where Trump talks, I think, to enough people and we hear how he feels on a lot of these policy things, enough that we're pretty up to date, pretty in tune, if you will, with what his thinking is on a lot of things. But in terms of his poise, the sense that this time around, he learned a lot the first time. I mean, just take us into his mindset a little bit from sitting down with him and what it. What you felt like you were gathering from this guy who still has the weight of the world on his shoulders, but always seems calm, cool and collected, except when he's a little angry. But, you know, for the most part, yeah, he is.
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Unknown Host
And it's that confidence and sort of New York swagger that he's just had. He's really. He, as far as back as he can remember, he says, it's just, he does, you know, I said, you sort of act against the grain quite often. And he says, well, you know, I've got the hat that says Trump was always right. But he says, I just, it's. I don't feel that I'm a rebel. I just have an innate sense of what's the right thing to do, and I do it, and I don't really care what other people say. And he said, for instance, he pointed to the LA riots, and, you know, last time he sort of regretted in 2020 that he wasn't as forceful that he said at the time. Well, I just thought really, I would leave it to the governors to make those decision. But obviously, the blue states, the blue governors did not do that. Whether it was because they thought that they, you know, it would be a great way of beating Donald Trump at the polls later that year, which I guess worked. But this time around, he said, this is a much more consequential presidency. He feels it because. Well, in part, he said because he's got.
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Buck Sexton
Did we lose her again? I think we might have lost her again.
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Miranda Devine
Oh, she's back.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, I'm very sorry about that. My stupid phone. And, yeah, he just feels like he's got a better team. More. More like he said that I had some stars last time, but I also had some losers. And he did.
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Buck Sexton
And it's Important that he recognized that. I think, Miranda and one of the challenges early on was Trump was this political phenomena. Talking about term one, you know, first, first administration, he's this political phenomenon. But a lot of us who were, who voted for Trump in 2016, who were excited about it, some of the people that were in charge, whether it was the Mooch or some of the others that got into that administration, we all knew right away, oh, this is not a, you know, this is not a good idea. And Trump realized that. And this time around, I look at the team that he's picked, and I think the. It's not just that we think it's good. The results, the speed, the efficiency with which they're moving on the agenda is the, you know, at this stage, at least, they still have a lot to do. But that is the result of somebody, or those are the actions of somebody who I think clearly learned a lot on the job the first time around and came ready to play day one this time.
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Unknown Host
Yes. And he said that. He, in fact, said, you know, having that four years in between, I mean, he could not have been more negative about Joe Biden and how he destroyed the country. But he said people saw how bad it was and, you know, he'd fixed the border, but he got no credit for it. But this time, he's absolutely determined to undo the damage, and he's confident that he will be able to do it. He's very bullish on the economy and his big, beautiful bill. He says, well, he says only phase one. He's got other things to do. And he reckons that the economic boost that it will give us will pay for. They'll be able to start paying down the debt. So, you know, and that was sort of riposte to Elon, and he's just very bullish and confident. The only thing I did pick up was, you know, he's disappointed about Iran. He said he really thought they were going to get the deal done. But just the last few days, he's realized, he said, they've changed. And I asked, what do you mean they've changed? And he wouldn't really be drawn on that, but he just said he felt that they wanted to do a deal before. Now he's not so sure. But either way, he said they're not getting a nuclear bomb. They are not. That's not happening. And, you know, it can either happen the nice way or he really doesn't want people to die, but they're not getting the nuclear bomb.
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Miranda Devine
Where does this go in your mind? The Elon Trump relationship. A lot of drama. Trump. Elon apologized to Trump publicly last night, it seems, and I bet you felt kind of the same way, that Trump has been somewhat. Somewhat restrained in his response to Elon. And there's reports out there that he basically considers elon to be 50% genius, 50% boy kid. And I do think there's some truth to that as well. How would you assess where this goes from here?
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Unknown Host
Yeah, you're absolutely spot on. I mean, he does. You know, he. I think I got the impression when they were still in good company together that Trump was fascinated by him because of his success and, I guess, his brilliance. And so he was sort of watching him and looking at him and engaged in conversation with him, but listening very intently, almost like you look at an insect under the glass, you know, not in a mean way, in a nice way. I mean, he's quite paternal with him. I felt Elon Musk treated Donald Trump as a father figure, which is really why it's so sad that it's all blown up. And look, I asked Donald Trump a few times about Elon, and he said, look, I don't bear any ill will towards him, but I am just too busy fixing the world. I'm not thinking about him. And I believe Elon may have tried to reach out a couple of times. I don't know a bit. Not that Donald Trump told me that, but I heard that somewhere else. And I think that he's just letting him cool off. And I don't know that Donald Trump will ever be able to have that same very close relationship, because Elon, even though he's apologized, he kind of broke something.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. There are things you can't say. I think we all just know this from our own lives. Whether it's to your spouse or to a colleague or a close friend, there are lines, and he definitely crossed some lines that are. That I don't think will be able to be undone. But I also think that they'll collaborate as needed in the future, but from a more, shall we say, professional distance and less of almost like adopted son status, which is what Elon. It felt like Elon was getting there for a while.
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Unknown Host
Yes. And, I mean, Elon's own father was so disastrous for him. I think that's a need that he has. And, you know, it was a real bromance. I mean, he was sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom. He really admired Donald Trump enormously. And it was almost a childlike, from my observation. And certainly, I think that's the way Donald Trump felt. But, you know, you just can't go back. And maybe it's a lesson that Elon will have. But look, Donald Trump is showing that he's not going to be nasty to Elon, and he really could have. Normally, he strikes back quite unkindly, but he also is quite a sensitive man. I think he has insight into other people's feelings and I think he knew that Elon was sort of in a bit of a manic phase and would regret what he'd said, which obviously he has because he's tweeted, poor thing. I mean, you would want to be Elon.
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Buck Sexton
Well, people can go listen to the full interview of Pod Force One. Correct?
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Unknown Host
Pod Force One, yes.
- [35:53]
Buck Sexton
Pod Force One with Miranda Devine. Go check it out wherever you get your podcast. Miranda, always great work. Thanks for hanging out with us.
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Unknown Host
Thank you so much for having me.
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Clay Travis
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J.R. Martinez
Of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
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Buck Sexton
This medal is for the men who.
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Unknown Host
Went down that day.
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Buck Sexton
It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
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J.R. Martinez
I'm J.R. martinez. I'm a U.S. army veteran myself and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [39:41]
Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
- [39:52]
Miranda Devine
He's Joe Getty.
- [39:53]
Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
- [39:57]
Buck Sexton
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
- [40:02]
Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
- [40:04]
Buck Sexton
Yes.
- [40:04]
Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [40:11]
Buck Sexton
No surprise here. A lot of you weighing in on Clay's idea that he could beat a WNBA player and people are fired up about this. Clay, I've got to say I could.
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Miranda Devine
Beat a big woman and I'm not insulting a big women by saying that he means tall. Yes.
- [40:28]
Buck Sexton
Not. Not like burly, not like Obese.
- [40:31]
Miranda Devine
Although I do think fat women would.
- [40:32]
Buck Sexton
Have a tough time with dig is the preferred.
- [40:36]
Miranda Devine
Like a 4 or a 5. A power forward or a center. A big woman meaning tall. I think that they can't handle the ball and I can't shoot. I would beat Angel Reese one on one. I offered $100,000 and a head to head matchup. That's more than she makes to play a whole year in the WNBA and she blocked me.
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Buck Sexton
Okay.
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Miranda Devine
On toast.
- [41:02]
Buck Sexton
Well, we have.
- [41:02]
Miranda Devine
We have not in real life.
- [41:04]
Buck Sexton
Perhaps a dose of sanity here from cc A podcast listener named Charles. He wanted to weigh in on this idea. Play it. Play Buck. Love the show. But Clay, you cannot be Angel. I would love to see that though.
- [41:17]
Miranda Devine
I think I would.
- [41:17]
Buck Sexton
I. I honestly would love to. Like I'll throw money into this pot too. I'm excited about this idea.
- [41:22]
Miranda Devine
I think if I trained I would smoker. My 8th grade son, his basketball team, they offered to put me through. This would be a good documentary. They were going to put me through training. They're pretty good. I think they got some future D1.
- [41:36]
Buck Sexton
What are your. Let's talk it. So. So my moves back in the day, I. I like to go to the hoop. Yeah, I was a shooter but I like to go to the hoop. I was a big double pump layup guy. That was my favorite.
- [41:45]
Miranda Devine
You had an old man, white man. Oh yeah.
- [41:49]
Buck Sexton
I was big into boxing out. You know, I knew that boxing out. The coach would always be excited if you did that. But what. What is your goats. Are you a skyhook guy?
- [41:57]
Miranda Devine
I would. I would. So first of all, I'm 46 now. So my biggest concern about a one on one matchup and I'm just talking.
- [42:05]
Buck Sexton
About half blowing out your ACL probably.
- [42:07]
Miranda Devine
Oh yeah. Or a bad sprained ankle and not being able to finish the game. I don't. The Angel Reese makes about 35% of her shots and I understand some of those are contested. She's not shooting more than five feet away from the basket. I don't think she could make contested shots against me. Now I am concerned for the point guards or the shooting guards who can handle the basketball. I think they could get to the basket and make step back shots on me. I don't think Angel Reese could score on me.
- [42:40]
Buck Sexton
That's why you go to the old man.
- [42:41]
Miranda Devine
Hip check.
- [42:41]
Buck Sexton
You know what I mean? You got to throw that weight around a little bit.
- [42:43]
Miranda Devine
I mean Angel Reese is six three. I am six foot. I bet we probably jump about the same height. It's not like she's going to dunk on me. I think I could box her out. I think I'm a better outside shooter than Angel Reese. And if I got video of you.
- [42:58]
Buck Sexton
Popping the jeep and see if you actually can shoot.
- [43:01]
Miranda Devine
If I got to put play with the girl sized basketball, which is smaller, I could palm that thing like I'm Shaquille o' Neal. I would make a lot of outside shots if I it's like a pop a shot.
- [43:14]
Buck Sexton
You remember when Ted Cruz played Jimmy Kimmel? I'll tell you, I would smoke Jimmy.
- [43:18]
Miranda Devine
Kimmel in one on one.
- [43:19]
Buck Sexton
Do you think you could be Jimmy Kimmel one on one?
- [43:20]
Miranda Devine
Yes. Okay, now.
- [43:22]
Buck Sexton
All right. All right.
- [43:23]
Miranda Devine
Yeah, I think. I think I would beat.
- [43:25]
Buck Sexton
Next question is you versus Ted.
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Miranda Devine
I think. I think I would be Ted Cruz.
- [43:29]
Buck Sexton
Ted. You hear that? Senator Cruz. Paging Senator Cruz.
- [43:40]
Jack Armstrong
And here we have a specimen from the early 2000s, a legacy investing platform. Please don't touch the exhibit, folks. It could crash.
- [43:49]
Clay Travis
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- [44:12]
J.R. Martinez
Is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than the themselves.
- [44:24]
Miranda Devine
This medal is for the men who.
- [44:26]
Buck Sexton
Went down that day on Medal of.
- [44:28]
J.R. Martinez
Honor Stories of courage. You'll hear about these heroes and what their stories tell us about the nature of bravery. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [44:41]
Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
- [44:52]
Miranda Devine
He's Joe Getty.
- [44:53]
Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
- [44:58]
Buck Sexton
How about something about a comedic tone?
- [45:02]
Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
- [45:04]
Clay Travis
Yes.
- [45:05]
Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong and Yeti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [45:11]
Unknown Host
This is an iHeart podcast.