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Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Rolling through the Friday edition of the show, Buck and his lovely wife Carrie and their little baby boy are visiting with his dad for his dad's birthday. He will be back with me on Monday. They've taken the first trip with the baby. He did not cry on the airplane, which is good for Buck because at some point we're going to have to pull back up the audio of Buck talking about how babies should never cry on airplanes. I think it was like the first year that we were together, before he was married, before he had a kid of his own. Now his baby has so far been very good on an airplane. But I told him, I text. I was like, dude, at some point every one of my kids has thrown up on me on an airplane, all three of them, and at different times when they were young. And I told him at some point the wheels are going to come off and you're going to come on, you're going to tell me about it and I'm going to pull the audio of you talking about. I don't know why the parents just don't stop that baby from crying. Like I what's the deal? Just tell the baby to stop crying. So so far, baby boy Sexton has not cried on the airplane. But I'm telling you, this is coming. We've been talking about the fallout of Russiagate, also the continued discussion surrounding the Epstein files and everything going on there. And we've got ton of you that want to weigh in. But I do want to go back to something that I said yesterday because I think it actually goes to the root of how all of this started. You ever go back to the root of things and say, how did we ever get in this mess to start with? I think it's super instructive. It reminds me of my golf game. I don't play golf that often, but what I love about golf is you have to constantly follow what you did before. And that to me is why golf is a perfect distillation of life. If you hit a bad shot. You have to deal with the consequences of the bad shot. And trust me, I deal with the consequences of a lot of bad shots. In my golf game. When you shank a shot off to the right and you're in the trees, presuming that you are playing golf as it is intended to get play, sometimes you don't. You don't get to pick the ball up and throw it back into the center of the fairway. You have to play the ball where it lies. You have to deal with a really difficult second shot. And sometimes you get the choice to make. Do you try to hit a hero shot on that second shot, or do you take your medicine and just knock it back into the fairway and be prepared for the third? And I understand some of you don't play golf, but I think the metaphor of life and golf interplays very well. And if you finish the round, you go back and you can say, boy, where did my game really go fall apart? Some of it may be like, you just stink a golf and that's me. And so there's no one thing that you did wrong. But if you're a really good golfer, you can go back and you can say, boy, on eight, I really had the wrong club there. I didn't factor in the wind. And that's when my round kind of fell apart and I never really came back from it. I think about this as it pertains to Russiagate, and I think this is so important. Why did Russiagate happen? Because Democrats couldn't figure out how Trump won. They thought Hillary was a shoe in. They wanted to shatter the glass ceiling. They wanted all of the balloons to come falling and they couldn't comprehend that they lost to Trump. This reality television show guy, this what in their mind, thoroughly unserious candidate. I was thinking about it this week and I came up with an analogy that some of you may think is crazy. But others of you, you're going to be like, you know what? Yeah, I totally see it. Tom Brady is the best quarterback in the history of the NFL. Now, some of you may be out there die hard Colts or Broncos fans, you might be arguing Peyton Manning. Some of you are Kansas City Chiefs fans, you may argue for Patrick Mahomes, but I want to take you back to the inception of Tom Brady for a moment. In 2002, Tom Brady won his first super bowl and they beat Rush's heavily favored at the time. Still in St. Louis Rams football team. Some of you are going to remember that game. And a lot of people said how in the world did this happen? How did Kirk Warner, NFL mvp, probably the best quarterback in the NFL at that point in time. Greatest show on turf, best offense. The Rams were a huge favorite in that game to win their second straight super bowl or nearly the second straight super bowl, and instead they lost. And everybody said, how in the world did this happen? How did the Rams, who were so good. Kurt Warner throws for over 300 yards. I was actually during the commercial break, I was looking up the stats on this game because I thought it was interesting. And Kurt Warner threw for over 300 yards. Tom Brady didn't do hardly anything. Kurt Warner, 365 yards passing. Tom Brady, 145 yards passing. There's a big difference in numbers. People said, man, this is a huge upset. I don't know how this happened. How did Tom Brady beat Kurt Warner? Well, then come to find out, actually, Tom Brady's one of the greatest of all time. And he would go on and he would win six more Super Bowls, play in 10 total Super Bowls. And in retrospect, you go back and you look at that 2002 Super bowl, and you say, boy, that was just the first sign that this guy was built different. And over time, everybody came to see, oh, yeah, Kurt Warner, he's a good quarterback, but Brady was different. I would submit to you that the 2016 election, a lot of people didn't get yet, that Donald Trump was built different. And so in the immediate aftermath, they're saying, boy, Hillary Clinton, she's Kurt Warner, she's the Ram, she's the favorite. She should never lose this election. And the original sin of all of Russiagate was a disbelief in Donald Trump's innate political gifts. Think about where we are right now. I loved watching Tom Brady when he played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because I knew we didn't have a lot of time left with Tom Brady, and I just wanted to celebrate his career. I feel that way about Trump right now. People are climbing all over, attacking him and everything else. But the reason Russiagate happened was because Democrats hadn't seen yet that Trump was built different. I think the best president since Reagan, on the Republican side, generational political talent. And so much like when Brady won that first super bowl, they didn't know what was to come. They went back and they said something had to happen, other than just Trump being the politician that he is, the political talent that he is, they thought that he was just a total schmuck. And so they said something had to happen here. There's no way that Hillary really lost this election to that guy. There's no way Kurt Warner just lost the super bowl to Tom Brady. And now as we sit in 2025, I am telling you, we are rapidly accelerating towards instead of being Hitler soon, you're going to start here. Democrats acknowledge Trump is actually the greatest political talent of the Republican Party in two generations. They're going to pivot really quickly from the guy's Hitler to. They're never going to be able to replicate what this guy is capable of. Why do I bring all this to bear? Don't take for granted that the immense, incredible good fortune that we have with Donald Trump in office right now, because he's not perfection. I think there is an element out there, and I think the Epstein case is a part of it, where we have, I think, the greatest six months that we have ever seen in my life of a president doing exactly what he said he was going to do. Economy, border crime. He could not have delivered better than he has. And we have an innate tendency to decide to fixate on the one thing that's not perfect, the two things that aren't exactly what we would have done if we were in that position and not enjoy and appreciate the good fortune that we actually find ourselves in right now. And I think Democrats, if you go back and look at the origination of why Russiagate happened, it was simply because they couldn't comprehend that Trump was as good of a political thoroughbred as he was. Now, look, I decided some of you are going to be upset about this. I decided once and for all when Trump took a bullet that I was not going to take him for granted. When he got his ear clipped, I said, I will run through a wall for this guy. I have got his back for this entire term. Doesn't mean he's going to be perfect. Doesn't mean that we're not going to come on this show and sometimes say, boy, I wish he'd done that a little bit different. I wish he'd been less of a bull in a china shop. I wish they had communicated on this issue a little bit better. But I focus a lot on intent. What is the goal? And if your intent is a good place, sometimes you're going to screw things up. And I think sports is another good analogy of this. It's frustrating when a player jumps off sides on third down, but it's an error of trying to do too much. I would rather somebody try to do too much and sometimes screw up than not be able to take aggressive action and not do enough Trump's errors, if you go look at him, are almost always going to be trying to do too much. He's trying to make too much happen. He's trying to change too much. He's trying to do as much as he possibly can in what is a relatively short period of time. I'm a history nerd. The older I get, the more I sit around and say, boy, you know, a four year presidential term is really not very much time. And even eight years, it's really not very much time. We got Supreme Court justices with lifetime tenure. We got senators that are going to be in office for 40 years, eight years. Any one man, any one president is automatically circumscribed. Trump, if he is guilty of anything right now, is guilty of trying to do too much simultaneously. And I just think, again, be careful in trying to attack someone who is doing so much immense good right now. The top attack of Democrats actually originated with Republicans. They're coming after Trump over Epstein, not because the Democrats have been right on Epstein, God forbid. They sat on the files for four years, they didn't release anything, they barely even mentioned it. And now they're going to come after Trump, who just got into office six months ago over Epstein. Be very, very careful when you are playing into the hands of the people that hate Trump. In the back of your mind, be thinking that primary Democrat attack now on Trump is related to Epstein. Are their hands clean on this? Have they actually done anything? All they're doing is using right wing attacks on Trump to actually use and mobilize the left against him. Again, I'm going to take a bunch of your calls. We're going to weigh in, but I just want you to think about that. The origination, where did Russia gate come from? It came from Trump can't actually have won. It's like Brady when he beat Kurt Warner before we knew how good Tom Brady was. Now, I understand some of you knew that in 16, some of you had your eyes open in 15 when Trump came down the escalator. Other people came on board different times. Some of you voted Trump 20, some of you voted Trump 24 in the first time. I think most of you out there listening have come to see his unique political skill and talents again. I think he's the greatest Republican president since Reagan. And I think Trump in his mind is making a run for the ages. His aspiration is not to be the best since Reagan. I think he wants to be better than Reagan. This guy's ambition is not, as we all know, to be pretty Good. It's to be the greatest ever. We'll take your calls. Just like Tom Brady, in my opinion is the greatest quarterback of all time. I want to tell you trust and will. Look was just downstairs. My boys are running around like crazy. It is still summer break. I've got a 14 year old, 10 year old at home. I got a 17 year old away at summer camp. Everything that I do by and large on a day to day basis is about trying to help make sure that they have a great future life for them. I'm 46 years old. I hope that I got 40 years still to go. I hope that I got 50 years still to still to go. 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Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show gonna Hit a bunch of your calls here. What do you do when the totally unexpected happens? A lot of times you create narratives to explain how the totally unexpected happened. Lori in South Carolina, what you got for us?
Buck Sexton
Well, hi, I just had a quick thought and I thought, well, I think the story on Rush is all about Hillary. I think she's the key to the evil thread. The reason is in 1992, 60 Minutes was on. Bill and Hillary were being interviewed, really didn't know them. He didn't get inaugurated I think till 93. So my daughter who was seven years old said, started screaming turn the TV off, turn the TV off. She said, that lady is scary. And out of the miles of bay to think that 33 years ago a 7 year old child saw the scary lady, who I believe is quite an evil lady. And I think she's the key to this evil.
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I'll talk. Thank you for the call. I'll talk about the Hillary angle here with when I come back because I do think that is significant on Russiagate. In the meantime, cell phones meant to last a long time, not a lifetime though over time, battery will fade as you all know, processor can't keep up. And that's why PureTalk right now has got you an opportunity to get a free Samsung Galaxy A36 when you sign up for a $35 a month qualifying plan. Just 35 bucks a month Talk, text data, free Samsung phone with scratch resistant gorilla glass and a battery that'll last all day, all in America's most dependable 5G network. Plus it is an incredible deal. I've got my two boys, 17 and 14 year old on Pure Talk. I trust that phone to keep them and their plan to keep me in touch with them, including my oldest who's away at camp right now. You can make the switch in as little as 10 minutes. £250 say clay and Buck for a free phone today. That's £250 say clay and Buck for Pure Talk. Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you for hanging out with us. Let me play this cut and then I'll take your calls. Cut 30. I think it's important to remember just how aggressive the lies all were that were used against Trump. Here is Bernie Sanders saying Russia may be blackmailing Trump. We need Buck's Bernie impersonation. But I promise this is actually Bernie. This is cut 30.
Buck Sexton
Trump doesn't understand what Russia has done not only to our elections but to cyber attacks against all parts of our infrastructure either. He doesn't understand It. Or perhaps he is being blackmailed by Russia because they may have compromising information about him. Or perhaps also you have a president who really does have strong authoritarian tendencies, and maybe he admires the kind of government that Putin is running in Russia. And I think all of that is a disgrace and a disservice to the American people. And we have got to make sure that Russia does not interfere, not only in our elections, but in other aspects of our lives.
Christian Amanpour
Bernie took his honeymoon in Russia. The idea that he would be, hey, maybe he admires Russia. This guy during the Cold War, got married and decided, there's anywhere in the world I could go. I think I want to go to Russia. And then he's going to accuse Trump of having a soft spot for Russia. I just think it's so funny. But it is important to remember, maybe he. Maybe he's a Russian asset. You know, how aggressive and crazy that is to say about the President of the United States. And, you know, they don't really have an answer for the question. Hey, this really simple question. If Trump were an asset of Russia, why did Vladimir Putin wait until Joe Biden was in office to invade Ukraine? If he had Trump by. Well, I'll just say it. The balls. If he had Trump dead to rights because of some sort of compromising information, why didn't he invade Ukraine when Trump was in office? Nobody can explain that. Why did he wait until Joe Biden was in office to invade Ukraine? And here's the other thing. I. Nobody's ever really explained this to me either. What would Russia have on Trump then that is worse than what the Democrats have said about Trump for the last decade? You slept with a porn star while your wife had a baby at home. Not a great thing to have people say about you. Just gonna throw it out there. You raped somebody at a dressing room in New York City. Not something that I would want people to be saying about me. Is there really anything that Russia could have ever said about Trump that was actually worse than what Democrats were already saying about Trump? Like, that's the part. Why didn't he invade while he was there? Okay. They don't have an answer for that. What could be worse than what you're already saying about Trump? You're a racist Nazi who slept with a porn star while your wife had a baby at home. And also, you raped a woman in a dressing room in a New York City department store. I don't know what else you could say that's worse. Oh, you slept with some random girl in Russia.
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What did we think that Russia had on? Nobody can ever answer this. What was so debilitating that Trump was so terrified of that would actually have been worse than what Democrats were already saying about him? I don't know about you, but when somebody says, hey, you're a racist Nazi, and they attack you, who you slept with, accused you of sexual assault, all these other different things, what else is left?
Buck Sexton
That.
Christian Amanpour
That's honestly the result of 2024. I knew Democrats were in trouble when they started saying, oh, he's a, he's an oligarch. Oh, he's a fascist. They were having to go further down the awful things to say about you food chain, because racist, Hitler, all that stuff wasn't working anymore. And they were panicking and they were actually insulting him with less insulting things that they could say about him. But again, what was this compromising information that was worse than what Russia was, than what the Democrats were already saying? Never made any sense. Why wouldn't they have invaded at that point in time? Tommy in Michigan, what you got for me?
Buck Sexton
Hey, you forgot one thing. Remember what Hillary put out there? They claimed Donald Trump was given golden showers to Russian hookers. Remember that?
Christian Amanpour
Yeah, but I'm. Well, totally. I mean, that was in the Steele dossier. But my point is. Hold on. My point is even that, is that worse than saying, hey, you slept with a porn star while your wife was home with a baby or you raped somebody in a, in a dressing room? I like they all. When you go that way, at some point, people are just like, either you don't believe it, or you kind of end up in a situation where you're like, there's just so many accusations. Whatever opinion you have of Trump is already baked in. And I think that's the problem that Democrats have, have run into. And that's my point. On the Russian compromising information, if somebody said, hey, Clay, and trust me, there are people who say, Clay Travis is a racist Nazi, supporting, philandering, life beating, you know, child abusing, like, every awful thing that could be said about me, somebody has said on the Internet, right. At some point in time, a fraction as often as they've said it about Trump. But at some point in time, you just have to say, well, if you're only attacking the guy for personal issues, what are you so afraid of about the political arguments that he's making? And I think that's where the American public got. I'm not saying Trump's a saint. He certainly isn't. He screwed up and made A lot of awful decisions in his life, both personal, private, business, like every single person on the planet. But he is also right on a ton of political issues. And I think the American public eventually says, well, if you're attacking Trump personally, instead of addressing the substance of the political arguments that he's making, at some point in time, the American public is smart enough to say, wait a minute, why can't they just go toe to toe with him on the actual political issues? Let's just presume that nobody is perfect, that everybody in politics is screwed up in their life just like everybody else in the whole world has screwed up at some point in their life. And hey, the fact that they can't actually debate them on the issues is a sign that they're not right on the issue. Sorry to cut you off. What you got for us, though, additionally.
Buck Sexton
About the Obama thing? It's like, you know what? This whole, this whole Russian collusion, it was debunked a year ago with Jake Capper on cnn. He came out and said it was all a hoax. The whole Russian, you know, the Russian dossier, the whole, it was all created by Hillary Clinton. Jake Tapper from CNN came out, said it was a hoax, it was debunked on cnn. And now the Democrats are trying to bring up this, oh, well, you know what? Because they knew this was through the masters at the versionary tactics. They knew Trump was coming out with this thing against Obama and how they tried to, you know, Brennan and Comey, those guys are going down. Obama's got presidential immunity, but the other guys are probably going down.
Christian Amanpour
And they know there's, I think you're, you're skipping in and out. We're losing a little bit of the audience. I think that the intelligence agency apparatus, CIA, FBI, all those guys, I think they're in more legal peril for sure than Obama is. I think Obama's going to skate because he has presidential privilege again. Trump said that. We played that audio for you earlier. We've been telling you that all week. I don't want to over promise and under deliver to you guys because I trust all of you to be intelligent, an analyst of all of the news that's out there. And I think you should listen to people like me and Buck and over time say, hey, are they being honest with us? Are they analyzing the larger news arena and telling us exactly what we think doesn't mean we're going to be perfect. I thought we were going to get a red wave in 2022. 100% wrong. Didn't happen. And by the way, I think that's the reason Obama, sorry. That Biden got to stay in office. And I think that's the reason we got the red wave in 2024. But we were early on that we saw the wave building. That was one that I got completely wrong. Had to come in and tell you guys, hey, that I was wrong on this. We Got it in 24. We were early on it. We didn't get it in 22. Got it wrong. I'll own it. Buck had to own it when he said they'll never kick Biden to the curb. I ended up getting that one right. One or the other of us going to be right sometimes. Most of the time I think one of the other of us going to be wrong sometimes. Rarely will we both be wrong. I think on everything like Biden was in his presidency. TED in Nebraska, what you got for us?
Buck Sexton
I think your analysis of how shocked the Democrats were because of a neophyte winning is all true. November, once they knew everything changed and they, I mean, it wasn't benign. They just hated them. He was an existential threat from immigration in the whole nine yards. They started with Sessions, got him out of the way so they could legally attack him. Flynn, they didn't want him in the Pentagon with all of that. It's not that they, they tried to perpetrate this Russian hoax. It's the fact they perpetrated the Russian hoax with the deep state. His own party was part of it, the media was part of it. The deep state, the Democrats. This is the biggest scandal in the history of the United States and everyone involved in this has to go down. I don't agree with the other caller. I think everyone's going to skate on this because of statute of limitations and everything else, but this is just over the top.
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I appreciate the call. I unfortunately think that it's more likely they're going to skate than they're going to be prosecuted. I do think this matters in a big way for the historical record record. And I also think, look, I went off a little bit yesterday. I also think we have to accept that intelligence agencies are very often intensely political. And I think one of the legacies of the Trump era is going to be establishing just how political our government is on a day to day basis. Everything is political. And so this idea, well, we're going to be completely balanced in intelligence agencies or the Department of Justice or anywhere else. Sadly, that's not the case. I think Trump has brought it back closer to balance, to evenness. But when you have an entire agency that would vote 80% Democrat and 20% Republican, it's impossible to have balance. And by the way, I think this is true of all the universities, too. In order to have balance, you basically have to have half the people that believe one thing, half the people that believe the other thing. That is the very essence of balance. And then you let those people fight it out inside of your company. Or even better. And this is what Google has finally started to do. They just say, hey, work is not where politics should happen. That's kind of where we were for most of the 80s and the 90s and the early 2000s. I think we had reached this sort of grudging status quo, and we weren't trying to influence politics on everything. And then Trump got elected and broke everybody's brain. And I mentioned, as we went to break, we had the caller that was on talking about how her daughter reacted to Hillary. I think it was Lori in South Carolina that we had on there. I said I would mention Hillary. I think Hillary's brain was broken by the loss in 2016. And I think she was like Kurt Warner losing to Tom Brady before we realized how good of a talent Brady was. The analogy that I made that explains how all of Russia collusion, in my mind, came to happen. They had to come up with a reason other than Trump's innate talents, why the result happened as it did. And I think they delegitimized and de Emphasized the talents of Trump. I think Hillary secretly was super ecstatic when she saw Kamala get swamped in 2024, because I think at that point in time, she, even if she won't say it publicly, could start to think, hey, maybe I didn't completely screw up everything. Maybe Trump's just a really good politician. And I think when he swamped Kamala and he knocked Biden out of the race, I think she will never say it, but I think Hillary got some peace for the trauma that she felt from losing that race. I think it spiraled her out of control. I think she had to look at external factors. Whenever something bad happens, the first thing that most people do is look for other people that are the cause of the bad thing happening. This is just life. If you just got divorced, it's very rare that the first thought you have is, you know what? I completely screwed that up. This is all on me. I should have been way better. You may work through that eventually and be like, boy, I wasn't a great husband. I wasn't a great wife. If you're fighting with your kids. It's very rare that you're like, hey, maybe I wasn't as good of a parent. Maybe I've screwed some of this relationship up. Self analysis is really hard. And even tougher than that is recognizing that you may well have caused most of the problems that externally surround you. No, I say, I think the phrase energy vampire is real. But if you're a person and you're like, boy, everybody around me is a jerk, and everything is always screwed up and why? You ever think maybe it's you? This is what I always say. Football coaches are great on this. There's a phrase that I also like. I like energy vampire. You're sucking all the energy out of other people. I also love the phrase that coaches share with me. Sometimes they say, you know, being a coach is really interesting. College, same thing in the draft, but college in particular. Phrases. We recruit our problems. You ever think about how powerful that phrase is? Most of life, you create and recruit the own problems that you will face. And once you take ownership of that. And I don't think Hillary could take ownership of her loss. Oh, it's Russia. Oh, it's. They cheated. Until you can look at internally and say, boy, I screwed that up, that's on me. My bad. You can't get over whatever happened to you, because there's always an external excuse. There's always someone else to blame. In all of life. I think Hillary lost in 16, and I think she couldn't comprehend that she could have lost to Trump. 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Summary of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show"
Episode: Hour 2 - Why Trump Won with People
Release Date: July 25, 2025
In the second hour of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the intriguing question: Why did Donald Trump win the 2016 and 2020 elections despite widespread expectations of Hillary Clinton's victory? Through insightful discussions, vivid analogies, and interactions with callers, the hosts dissect the political landscape, analyze the origins and fallout of Russiagate, and explore the enduring impact of Trump's political prowess.
Clay Travis opens the discussion by comparing Donald Trump's electoral success to a surprising upset in the sports world. He draws a parallel between Trump's victory over Hillary Clinton and Tom Brady's unexpected win against Kurt Warner in the 2002 Super Bowl.
Clay Travis [05:45]: "I would submit to you that the 2016 election, a lot of people didn't get yet, that Donald Trump was built different.... He was a total schmuck. And so they said something had to happen here."
Clay elaborates on how, much like Curtis Warner's underwhelming performance in the Super Bowl initially masked Tom Brady's emerging greatness, the Democratic Party failed to recognize Trump's unique political talents early on.
Clay Travis [06:30]: "In retrospect, you go back and you look at that 2002 Super Bowl, and you say, boy, that was just the first sign that this guy was built different."
This analogy serves to underscore the initial underestimation of Trump's capabilities by his opponents, leading to a significant miscalculation that ultimately contributed to his electoral victories.
A substantial portion of the discussion centers around Russiagate—the investigation into alleged connections between Trump's campaign and Russian interference in the 2016 election. Clay Travis posits that Russiagate originated from the Democratic inability to comprehend Trump's political acumen.
Clay Travis [09:15]: "Why did Russiagate happen? Because Democrats couldn't figure out how Trump won. They thought Hillary was a shoe-in... They couldn't comprehend that they lost to Trump."
He further criticizes the Democratic response, suggesting that their fixation on external factors like Russiagate was a defensive strategy to explain their unexpected loss.
Clay Travis [10:50]: "The origination, where did Russia gate come from? It came from Trump can't actually have won. It's like Brady when he beat Kurt Warner before we realized how good Tom Brady was."
Clay and Buck critically examine the Democratic Party's ongoing attacks on Trump, especially concerning allegations related to Epstein and other personal scandals. They argue that these attacks are disproportionate and stem from Democrats' desperation to undermine Trump's legitimate political successes.
Clay Travis [17:30]: "The top attack of Democrats actually originated with Republicans. They're coming after Trump over Epstein, not because the Democrats have been right on Epstein..."
Buck Sexton adds to this critique by highlighting the lack of substantial evidence supporting the claims against Trump, questioning the motive behind the timing of these attacks.
Buck Sexton [27:28]: "The idea that he would be, hey, maybe he admires Russia... Nobody can explain that. Why did he wait until Joe Biden was in office to invade Ukraine?"
Christian Amanpour interjects, emphasizing the absurdity of the allegations and questioning the logic behind Russia's purported reasons for targeting Trump.
Christian Amanpour [28:10]: "Why did he wait until Joe Biden was in office to invade Ukraine?"
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck interact with callers who share their viewpoints, further enriching the discussion. Notable contributions include:
Lori from South Carolina [25:17]: Highlights historical perceptions of Hillary Clinton and connects them to current narratives shaping Russiagate.
"She [Hillary] is quite an evil lady. And I think she's the key to this evil."
Tommy from Michigan [31:59]: Remembers the Steele dossier claims and adds skepticism about the validity of the evidence used against Trump.
"Remember what Hillary put out there? They claimed Donald Trump was given golden showers to Russian hookers."
These interactions reinforce the hosts' arguments about the politicization of intelligence and the media's role in shaping public perception.
Clay Travis reflects on Trump's achievements, asserting that despite imperfections, Trump's administration made significant strides in the economy and border security.
Clay Travis [20:00]: "He could not have delivered better than he has. And we have an innate tendency to decide to fixate on the one thing that's not perfect..."
He warns listeners not to take Trump's successes for granted amidst the relentless criticism and distractions orchestrated by his adversaries.
Buck Sexton echoes this sentiment, underscoring Trump's relentless drive to enact change, even if it means taking risks and facing potential failures.
Buck Sexton [24:06]: "Trump, if he is guilty of anything right now, is guilty of trying to do too much simultaneously."
Towards the end of the hour, the hosts speculate on the long-term implications of Trump's political strategy and the Democratic Party's reactions.
Clay Travis [34:13]: "The Democratic party is going to have to pivot... They’re never going to be able to replicate what this guy is capable of."
They suggest that Trump's approach has set a new standard in political campaigning and governance, one that Democrats struggle to counter effectively.
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton provide a compelling analysis of Donald Trump's electoral victories, attributing them to his distinct political talent and the Democratic Party's failure to recognize and adapt to his unique approach. Through sports analogies, critiques of political strategies, and interactive discussions with callers, the hosts offer a nuanced perspective on the dynamics that shaped recent American elections.
Clay Travis [05:45]: "I would submit to you that the 2016 election... Trump was built different."
Clay Travis [09:15]: "Why did Russiagate happen? Because Democrats couldn't figure out how Trump won."
Buck Sexton [31:59]: "Remember what Hillary put out there? They claimed Donald Trump was given golden showers to Russian hookers."
Buck Sexton [24:06]: "Trump, if he is guilty of anything right now, is guilty of trying to do too much simultaneously."
Clay Travis [34:13]: "The Democratic party is going to have to pivot... They’re never going to be able to replicate what this guy is capable of."
This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions presented in "Hour 2 - Why Trump Won with People," providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened to the episode.