Hour 3 - Actor Daniel Roebuck

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Hour 3: Actor Daniel Roebuck

Date: March 13, 2026
Host: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Guest: Daniel Roebuck
Episode Theme: Political migration from blue to red states, and a deep dive into film/TV with actor-writer-director Daniel Roebuck

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Episode Overview

In this final hour of the week, Clay and Buck examine the ongoing migration of high-earning individuals from high-tax, traditionally blue states to red states, discussing the long-term implications for American politics and culture. The latter half of the episode features a lively interview with actor and filmmaker Daniel Roebuck, who talks about his new faith-based film The Hail Mary, shares backstage stories from classic movies like The Fugitive, and offers candid insight into working in Hollywood as a person of faith.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. High Earners Fleeing Blue States: Tax Policy and Political Fallout

[03:51 – 18:26]

• Clay Travis introduces the topic:
  Clay opens by stressing that a "mass exodus" of high earners is underway from states like California, Illinois, New York, and Washington, primarily due to increasing state income and estate taxes.
• The numbers and anecdotes:
  • Washington is proposing a 9.9% state income tax on those making $1M+.
  • NY politicians propose a 50% estate tax on estates over $750,000, which would hit even middle-class property owners.
• Clay’s observation:
  “Whenever you put these taxes in place, you do not get the money you expect... because those who can avoid paying the tax leave or find super impressive accounting to avoid paying it.” (Clay Travis, 06:14)
• Buck’s distinction between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ billionaire migrants:
  Buck divides billionaires who leave blue states into those who help the cause by becoming vocal critics of Democrat governance (like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel), versus those who quietly relocate for tax purposes but continue to support left-wing policies (like Howard Schultz).
• Cultural and demographic impact:
  • Migration is "making red states redder," especially visible in Tennessee, Texas, and Florida.
  • “We have flipped Florida redder than it has ever been. We are reinforcements.” (Buck Sexton, 15:55)
  • Concern remains about blue-state refugees bringing voting habits with them, but voting data shows red states growing even more conservative.

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2. Human Psychology of the Elite

[13:02 – 15:25]

• Clay and Buck analyze why wealthy individuals remain politically timid:
  Clay: “Some of the biggest cowards on the planet are super-rich guys... they're afraid, ‘oh, am I going to be able to sit on this charity benefit if I say [something controversial]?’” (Clay Travis, 13:05) Buck: “When you're super rich, what do you still want? You want the approval of your peer group... the other rich guys and gals to say, ‘oh, you’re doing great stuff. You’re invited to the garden party.’ “ (Buck Sexton, 13:15)
• Cultural contrast: Clay expresses empathy but disagreement with the need for elite approval, preferring honesty and open debate over polite silence.

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3. Listener Feedback: The Impact of Migration on Red States

[23:17 – 24:44]

• Listener Kathleen from Miami voices concerns about migrants from blue states turning Florida blue (23:26).
• Buck counters with data: “The data doesn’t support this... A million Republicans have moved into your state... it's been an absolute bonanza of right wingers showing up from New York from everywhere.” (Buck Sexton, 23:42)
• Clay and Buck agree that while the fear exists, real-world impacts have been positive for Republican-leaning states.

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4. Interview: Daniel Roebuck on Faith-Based Film, Classic Movies & Hollywood

[26:26 – 40:23]

A. The Hail Mary: Purpose and Inspiration

• About the film: Daniel Roebuck introduces The Hail Mary, a faith-based comedy he wrote, directed, and stars in. It tells the story of a disillusioned man who finds purpose coaching football at a Catholic school.
• Roebuck on why he made it:
  “The Hail Mary of the title isn’t about the last play of the game, but the last play of the game is, is quite great. But the Hail Mary of the title is the guy I play... I just kind of wanted to say thank you to [the nuns who taught me] in some way. And this movie was born out of that.” (Daniel Roebuck, 32:01)
• Working with family: Channel of Peace, Roebuck’s production company, involves his family and operates not-for-profit to put out faith-based entertainment.

B. Roebuck’s Movie & TV Career: Stories from Classics

• On The Fugitive:
  Roebuck exposes behind-the-scenes uncertainty, sharing that even Harrison Ford doubted the film:
  “I heard Harrison Ford say, ‘ugh, this is going to be my Hudson Hawk.’ We had no idea.” (Daniel Roebuck, 28:14)
  • Iconic line: “This is hinky. Why would he come in here?”—improvised and later made it into the final script.
• Being on movies vs. TV:
  • TV scripts arrive week-to-week, so actors often don’t know where their character is headed.
  • Roebuck cites his run on “Matlock,” “Lost,” and “Man in the High Castle” as blessings because they let him land in “the story everyone’s talking about.”
  • “I have been consistently blessed and all of it has led me to this moment... where I make these faith-based movies.” (Daniel Roebuck, 35:54)
• Cultural commentary on Hollywood:
  • Crew members tend to be more aligned with regular Americans than the “millionaires who have no sense of the common life” who make headlines.
  • Roebuck: “I don’t really give a flying egg what Robert De Niro thinks about anything, let alone politics...” (Daniel Roebuck, 37:22)
  • Advocates for supporting smaller, independent movies to change Hollywood from the bottom up.

C. Notable Quotes

• “Can I do... I know we should be plugging, and you guys are so... you’ve blessed me so much.” (Daniel Roebuck, 31:07)
• “I made a good living standing next to Andy Griffith and Kathy Bates and, you know, Don Johnson...” (Daniel Roebuck, 37:22)
• “The only way we can get Hollywood to change is... keep making these smaller movies... get people into the movies... If someone sees, ‘huh, I can maybe make money from that,’ things might change.” (Daniel Roebuck, 39:19)

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5. Fun Listener Talkbacks and Movie Trivia

[45:39 – End]

• Listener Kyle from Tennessee corrects a mistaken reference (“Biff Henderson” vs. “Biff Tannen” of Back to the Future), leading to playful banter between Clay and Buck.

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Memorable Moments & Tone

• Clay gets passionate and “fired up” when discussing the political implications of migration (“it's going to change... much of what... political power exists in this country” — 03:51).
• Buck’s dry humor and pop culture riffs lighten the atmosphere, especially with fantasy analogies (“like the elves who show up in Helm's Deep in the Lord of the Rings” — Buck Sexton, 15:38).
• Roebuck’s humility and humor: Candid about his place in show business (“my platform is to support the star”), and full of gratitude for his career and “consistent blessings”.

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Key Timestamps

• 03:51 – Clay introduces the “rich fleeing blue states” segment
• 06:14 – Clay explains the real effects of high taxes
• 15:55 – Buck on how migration is making Florida “redder than ever”
• 23:26 – Listener Kathleen voices migration concerns
• 26:26 – Start of Daniel Roebuck interview
• 28:14 – The Fugitive backstage story
• 32:01 – Roebuck on the real meaning of The Hail Mary
• 37:22 – Roebuck on Hollywood’s working class & politics
• 39:19 – Roebuck’s call for supporting independent movies
• 45:55 – Listener correction leads to fun movie trivia

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Conclusion

This episode guides listeners through profound demographic changes affecting American politics, then shifts to a heartfelt and entertaining discussion with a working actor-director on faith, art, and the changing media landscape. Clay and Buck’s chemistry balances humor and analysis, while Daniel Roebuck offers both industry insight and inspiration for cultural renewal.

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Notable Quote (Closing):
“Keep doing the good work you guys are doing. We're blessed to have you on the airwaves. Thank you.”
— Daniel Roebuck (40:10)

Film plug: The Hail Mary, available now via Angel Studios and soon on major streaming platforms.

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Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Travis Buck Sexton Show Final hour of the week and I just teased what I think is a significant story and I think it may be the most significant story long term that is going on right now. And by long term I mean you're going to start to see it in a significant way in the 2030 census and it is going to change, I think much of what in terms of political power exists in this country and that is you are seeing high earners finally get fed up with left wing governance and they are fleeing California, Illinois, New York, Washington state. And I just talked about two different stories that are happening simultaneously on the left coast and the right coast of this country. Out on the left coast in Washington state they are proposing and it looks like going to pass a 9.9% yearly income tax, state income tax on anyone who makes a million dollars or more simultaneously. Buck Momdani and I believe we have an audio cut of this is saying that he wants a 50% estate tax on estates of $750,000 or more. That's basically Buck anybody that owns any property at all in New York City and you can own a $750,000 place in New York City and not be wealthy at all. In fact, you can struggle to even pay your bills and Some of you are going to say, how is that possible? Because of the taxes and because of cost of living. Here is mom Donnie talking about this. Let's listen. I believe it's cut 24. Amidst being in the wealthiest city in

[Buck Sexton]

the wealthiest country in the history of the world.

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We already see an exodus of working

[Buck Sexton]

in middle class New Yorkers.

[Clay Travis]

So I don't have a hesitation in

[Buck Sexton]

asking those who make the most amount

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of money in the city or the

[Clay Travis]

most profits in the city to pay a little bit more so that everyone

[Daniel Roebuck]

can actually stay in this city.

[Buck Sexton]

It's also something not just about justice

[Daniel Roebuck]

or, or the ability for working class

[Clay Travis]

people to live here. It is also actually about ensuring that

[Daniel Roebuck]

corporations can continue to attract the top talent to this city.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, this is. It is. Let me take a step back when you look at the actual. Because I'm fired up about this bucket. So I want to, I want to be crystal clear on this. The data reflects that whenever you put these taxes in place, you do not get the money that you expect you're going to get because those who can avoid paying the tax and leave or find super impressive accounting to avoid paying the tax doll. And so you actually end up netting less in tax because you were driving away the biggest income taxpayers. And Buck, I see it in my neighborhood, we have moved. We have a couple of neighbors. My builder said, hey, a couple of your neighbors now are New York guys. They were just fed up with taxes. They realized during COVID hey, we can run our businesses as well from other states as we can here. Buck, in your neighborhood, there's guys coming in like crazy with big, with big wealth that are just saying, hey, whether it's Mark Zuckerberg, whether it's Peter Thiel, whether it's Howard Schultz, we could go through a whole list of people that have just said, I'm done with California, I'm done with New York, I'm done with Illinois, I'm done with Washington, I'm done with these high tax locales. And some of you out there are saying, oh, I'm so nervous. These people are like locusts. What I can tell you is they're actually making the red redder. Go look at the voter rolls in Florida. Go look at the outcome in Tennessee and Texas. We are gaining a lot of super impressive, talented people. Elon Musk in Texas. Starbucks, of all places, just announced they're going to hire thousands of new people in Tennessee. Oracle is relocating to Nashville. And the people that are by and large moving into these communities and red states are Actually making them redder and, and buck. This is going to be transformative on so many different levels because what it's going to do is it's going to make the low tax states have way better services. And the people that are left behind in New York and California and Illinois and Washington are going to keep getting taxed at higher rates. The tax base is going to be leaving and the resources and tax base is just going to continue to diminish. I think this is a huge story.

[Buck Sexton]

Again, there's two different kinds of billionaires in my mind who end up leaving. New York, California, Washington state. There's a concentration of billionaires in those places. Right. You have Silicon Valley in California, you have the Microsoft slash Starbucks, you know, tech and everything else going on in Seattle. And so you have billionaires there too. And obviously a lot of billionaires in New York, but the ultra rich who moved to Florida who have always supported the insane Democrat policies and always said things like I think we should pay more taxes and I think we should have bigger government and blah, blah, blah, all that stuff, they really tick me off. And there's a difference. You know, you have the Elon Musk's and people like him and Peter Thiel has been helping the right and been on the, been on the right for a long time. So he's not, he's not like new to the game. But you have Peter Thiel, you have Elon Musk, you have people who have come forward and said the Democrat approach to governance fails. I don't want my companies to be subjected to this idiocy anymore. I'm going to Texas, I'm going to Florida. And that's great because they are telling everybody what the reality is and they are therefore a part of the solution. The challenge that I see here is people like Schultz because he's been so, you know, left wing and lib for so long. The Starbucks CEO, he's going to come on down to Florida, he's going to buy some $50 million Waterfront Place and the whole thing and he's going to be writing checks to Democrats and he's going to be pushing the same nonsense. And you just, you know, what does it take for these people to realize, by the way, imagine this Clay, if you had to move your company and you started off in Tennessee, so you've been good to go the whole for a reason, right? Yeah. Imagine if you had to move your company from a state after it had been there for decades because your people are taxed too much, the crime is too High. There's crazy homeless people attacking them on public transit, et cetera, et cetera. Wouldn't you want to say something about that publicly when you were moving to Tennessee or Florida, you know, wouldn't you want to come out and just like have at it a little bit? No, they're just going to be like, yeah, you know, we're just keeping residences in multiple states and Schultz is going to be a Florida resident for tax purposes. I can assure you.

[Clay Travis]

I will say what you're saying. First of all, of course I would run my mouth. I mean, I, I, I mean you

[Buck Sexton]

would, I meant anyone would.

[Clay Travis]

But I will say to her credit, the in and out owner of the burger franchise, she relocated to basically my neighborhood and she teed off on California.

[Buck Sexton]

She's right. But she's, she's the sane person. She's a little bit, she's a, a reasonable human being. Right. She's known as that.

[Clay Travis]

I agree with you. This is what gets me so angry. If you have f you money and you aren't, what are you afraid of?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this is if you left California for Austin and you still think that you should do California stuff in Austin while surrounded by the rest of Texas, you are an imbecile and you are ruining the community you have moved to.

[Clay Travis]

This is where I think Elon has actually created a lot of space because there are many people that agree with everything that we say inside of companies that have gone woke and every now and then they'll come up to me and they'll say, they'll whisper, they'll be like, hey, I work at insert company here and I can't tell you, you know, how many people inside of this company will sometimes share tweets or segments from your show. Like we have like a secret, you know, text chain and everybody, I get why guys that are trying to make a living, guys and gals out there that, you know, you've got a mid tier job and you got to pay tuition and you got to pay mortgage and all those things. The people that really infuriate me are the ones who could. Nobody could ever do anything to. Right. If you have $25 million in America today, the odds of anybody being able to do anything to you or your family that ever would impact and I'm being generous at 25. That's a lot.

[Buck Sexton]

That's a lot.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Yeah. Okay.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, it's less than that.

[Clay Travis]

I'm saying, like they're some of the biggest cowards on the planet are super rich guys because they're Afraid, oh, am I going to be able to sit on this charity benefit if I say,

[Buck Sexton]

when you're super rich, what do you still want? You want the approval of your peer group? Not everybody, but this is what ends up happening. You want people to think well of you who also have beachfront homes in the Hamptons and Nantucket and, and live in Bel Air and live in Malibu and. And live in Colorama in a mansion in D.C. like you want them to. You want them to like you because everything else you already have. You're surrounded by people who kiss your butt all the time because you're paying all their bills and they need you. So what you want are the other people. You want the other rich guys and gals to say, oh, you're doing great stuff. Oh, you're invite. You're invited to the garden party. That's what this is, real human psychology. This is why these idiots. This is why you have like, Alex Soros running around, the ultimate Nepo baby, who is just like a pyromaniac, lighting civilization on fire everywhere he can.

[Clay Travis]

This is maybe where I'm a little bit. I don't know. There's something in my Persona like, I don't care. I genuinely don't care. I'm going to tell you exactly what I play. You are.

[Buck Sexton]

You are an unusual duck. Just so you know, not everyone is as throwdown as you are.

[Clay Travis]

But I don't. I don't get it. I don't want people to be dishonest and not say what they really think. If you think that I'm a moron, go ahead and let me have it. But it doesn't mean that I can't have a beer with you. And the idea that I can't sit on some board. Thank you. The last thing I want to be doing is sitting on a board with awful people. I don't like meetings, period. So don't even get me started on having to go to meetings for things that I. That I wouldn't even want to be at. And so I just. I wish that there was more steel spine. Because to your point, if you are relocating across the whole country because the state has made awful decisions, I think you have an obligation to tee off on the state government that you are leaving and say, I'm leaving because you guys have done such an awful job and there are going to be a lot of job creators and a lot of wealth that follows me and, and actually tell the story and don't try to hide when you just relocate to Florida, Texas or Tennessee.

[Buck Sexton]

I got to tell you, and there was a little bit of this even when I moved down here. People in Florida who were like, you know, don't bring those New York. You know, don't bring those New York

[Clay Travis]

voting patterns down here as a Tennessee. And this is something people are concerned about. But hold on.

[Buck Sexton]

All that concern is now the northeasterners who have moved to Florida in, you know, during COVID and after. We're like the elves who show up in Helm's Deep in the Lord of the Rings, my friends. Ok? We are the right wing of the Northeast and this is important.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

We have flipped Florida redder than it has ever been. We are reinforcements.

[Clay Travis]

We are the cavalry.

[Buck Sexton]

We are not undermining you. What I understand from my Texas friends, I'm sure someone could call in and tell us this. Now, Texas, for a long time, because of the tax and business climate there relative to some of the west coast states, particularly California, they've been getting fancy Californians who show up and they're making Austin bluer and bluer basically and creating and is also true in some of the other cities I think as well, certainly in Dallas. And that is a different phenomenon because the people that have flushed and the numbers speak for this, it's 1.2 million more Republicans in Florida now registered because of the migration from mostly the Northeast, but some other parts of the country too. You're welcome, Florida. We are here.

[Clay Travis]

By the way, this is where I get concerned. Blue, those people who are left behind, the red state, normal thinking refugees, Staten island listening to us right now in wor a lot of Long island, much of Westchester now where people are still sane and you know, certain pockets of of Manhattan proper, they're going to get drowned in even more blue craziness. Because Buck, what should happen is people should look around and say these are really bad ideas that we are enabling with the election of people like mom Donnie, Brandon Johnson in, in Chicago. Instead they're going to double, triple and quadruple down on crazy which is going to continue to drive away even more people. And I think what's going to happen is quality of life in places like Texas, Tennessee and Florida is going to skyrocket even more than it is now in a favorable direction because the revenue is going to be better, the services are going to be better, the safety is going to be better. Your kids, schools are going to be better. I'm talking about public schools. And all of that's going to be moving in the opposite direction in all of these blue places. And I think we're going to see a fundamental realignment of power as a result, because as money moves into these new states and they have less regulation and lower taxes and everything's going to get better. And as money moves out of New York and Illinois and in California and Washington, all these places, everything's going to get worse and we're going to see a fundamental realignment. I saw, I think it was Peter Thiel said Miami is going to replace New York City as the financial capital of the United States. I think that this is going to happen.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got some talk facts. Let's get to them. K. Kathleen from Miami listens on wiod. Hit it.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Yes, we're nervous because these people will come here from Florida and they will vote the way they voted in New York and California only for us to get the same stuff they left old news. We all know it, but it's still true.

[Buck Sexton]

Kathleen, I'm just telling you the data doesn't support this. The data is very clear. You've gotten a million Republicans have moved into your state. Now, I'm not saying no Democrats, but it has been an absolute bonanza of right wingers showing up from New York from everywhere.

[Clay Travis]

This is the number one. I'm a native born and raised Tennessean. This is the number one thing that native born and raised Tennesseans come up to me.

[Buck Sexton]

You're getting libs. You're getting some libs from California. I know about what's not all but I mean you're definitely getting some. I've.

[Clay Travis]

But it's 75, 25 or 70, 30 in favor of red state living. And, and I get the fear because when you live in a great state and you're born and raised there or you've been living there for a long time, you're concerned that these people are going to be like locusts and they're going to show up and try to destroy your way of life. I'm telling you, it's not happening in Florida, Texas or Tennessee based on the voting returns. They're getting redder.

[Buck Sexton]

You don't want them to Seattle your Franklin man.

[Clay Travis]

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[Daniel Roebuck]

That's a great question. You know, I hate to say it, but playing a mortician in Getting Grace was maybe the dream job. That's the job I thought I'd have if I wasn't an actor. I swear that's true. Wow. Yeah. I played football up until eighth grade and was scouted for high school. Like, you know, because I scouted means, hey, you're tall, you're big, you're wide shouldered, you're stupid enough to get hit by guys bigger than you. Come play football. It wasn't like I was some great player, but I found the theater. I did my first play between eighth grade and high school and I thought, you know, being in the locker room with girls is a lot better than being in the locker room with boys. A dressing room with girls. So I never made it to football. But playing the football coach was great because I did have a great coach and I've got a wife who's a bit of a tomboy. So when I was confused by some of the terminology that I didn't remember, she was always there to help me with it. That terrible.

[Buck Sexton]

Daniel, we want to talk about the Hail Mary, but I have to ask you because now I'm a huge the Fugitive fan. I know you're in the Fugitive. I actually remember your character well in the Fugitive. My wife had never seen it and I watched it with her. Maybe Six months ago. So I got to kind of relive that again.

[Clay Travis]

How does it hold up?

[Buck Sexton]

Can I ask him a question?

[Clay Travis]

I'm curious, but you for watching it.

[Buck Sexton]

I, I was, I was gonna ask him. When you're doing it, I mean, it holds up incredibly well, in my opinion. But when you're doing it, were you aware that you were making one of the great. Like as you were filming that movie with Tommy Lee Jones and, and Harrison Ford, were you aware that this was going to be, in my opinion, one of the certainly 10 best thrillers of the 90s? I mean, it's a phenomenal movie.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Thank you for, for asking that. I want to begin by saying for a brief second, Buck. I thought about naming my son Buck Roebuck because there was something about the redundancy that I liked. He.

[Buck Sexton]

Buck is hard enough as a name, so Buck Roebuck would be really an uphill climb, but nonetheless, keep going.

[Daniel Roebuck]

I named him Buster. And he's, he's so earned that name. He's such a. He's the football player of the family. Listen, when we made the Fugitive, I'm not kidding, I heard Harrison Ford say, ugh, this is going to be my Hudson Hawk. We had no idea.

[Clay Travis]

But he thought it was going to be awful.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Yeah, yeah. You guys, you, we. Because they kept refixing the plot and changing it, rewriting it, all the dialogue. We said, you guys know that all that stuff between the marshals was, was improvised, then memorialized, then we shot it. So none of that dialogue was in the movie. Except for actually, Buck, where I say, this is hinky. Why would he come in here?

[Buck Sexton]

See, I used that word before because of your line in that movie. I've been like, that's hinky. That's a great line.

[Daniel Roebuck]

It's hanky. So we didn't know. But, you know, unlike you, and I think it's interesting. It's the one thing I miss now about how you could turn a TV on. You know, you get done mowing the lawn or whatever you're doing. You're like, I'm just gonna take an hour for myself. And you turn the TV on and the Sting would be on, or the Great Escape or Jaws, and you could watch it at any point in the story because you love the story and you knew the story and you. It was like a familiar thing. I am honored that the Fugitive is one of those mov. And I agree, it is. It's kind of a timeless, really great, fast paced movie.

[Buck Sexton]

When my wife, when my wife Daniel said she hadn't seen it. I was like, top of the list. We're watching the Fugitive next time we have a, you know, husband, wife, movie night when the baby's asleep early enough. And she thought it was excellent, too, of course. I mean, I think it's. For a thriller, it's a 10 out of 10. It's totally. What you said, totally watchful at any point. But that is fascinating to me that. Because I've heard the other thing. I've heard actors making a movie, like apparently the guys, when they were doing Ghostbusters, for example. I know, very different movie. But as soon as they wrapped, they were like, this is going to be amazing. Like, they kind of knew. And it's amazing to hear that you didn't know the Fugitive until maybe you got really close to the end. Was going to be such a great film. It tells you a lot about how the movie process goes.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Well, the zeitgeist, like those guys at Ghostbusters, they. They were more of a cohesive unit. They had been working together over time because of Caddyshack and everything else. And they knew, you know, they knew what it was. Can I do. I know we should be plugging. And you guys are so. You. You've blessed me so much.

[Buck Sexton]

Tell us about that. Tell us about your movie. I'm sorry to get you. Go ahead.

[Daniel Roebuck]

But. No, no, no. I want to tell you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna divert again. You know what I just watched for two nights in a row? The Lonesome Dove. Have you guys.

[Clay Travis]

That's amazing, dude.

[Daniel Roebuck]

I. It's my boy. Tommy Lee Jones. My God. Robert Duvall, of course, because Mr. Duvall passed. What, what? Eight hours of brilliant perfection. Brilliant perfection. It's on Amazon Prime. Although I had it. I watched the first four hours on my old DVD and I thought it's. They've gotta have restored this. I'm sure it looks better anyway, now,

[Buck Sexton]

not talking about great movies. The Hail Mary. That's the movie that's out now. That's the movie that's doing great numbers. Tell us about it.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Well, so the Hail Mary was born. I was. I have. I got. You know, I have great parents, but the nuns, our nuns, The Sisters of St. Joseph of Philadelphia, who. Who had me for 12 years of Catholic school, really did have an impact on guiding my. My. My moral and ethical compass and my spiritual compass, obviously. And I just kind of wanted to say thank you to them in some way. And this movie was born out of that. You know, the Hail Mary of the title isn't about the last play of the game, but the last play of the game is, is quite great. But the Hail Mary of the title is the guy I play and I'm working opposite an amazing actress named Marsha Dietline who has starred in a couple of my movies. She's, she's spectacular as Sister Kathleen, who is named after a nun who taught me in first grade who changed my life.

[Clay Travis]

That's awesome. By the way, everybody go see this movie. I want to go back to your history because the Fugitive is great, but we're talking to Daniel Roebuck. The movie is the Hail Mary. You also were in two television shows that I really loved, Lost and the, the man in the High Castle. What is the difference in your experience between being on a movie and being on a highly successful television show as an actor? What is the experience like? How is it different for those two?

[Daniel Roebuck]

Well, you know, what's great about it is you get the script every week and you don't, you don't know where you'll be in the story in a movie. You've got, you know, 100, 105 page script and you know exactly where you are in a TV show. And now there was. Because those shows were sequential in how it was all one story. I also did Matlock for three years in which every week was a different story and different people. I love them both. My, the blessing God's given me, you guys, is that like from River's Edge to the Fugitive to the Late Shift to Lost to the man in the High Castle and now even Terrifier, I have had the ability to kind of land into that story that everyone's talking about in a moment of time, which is, you know, hard to do for an actor to land in any story consistently. But yeah, they're different. And the other thing is, it's a different director almost every week. Or as you know, they, they, they rotate five through, but you get a different director and it's fun. And Lost, by the way, Lost was one of those shows where sometimes we would shoot two episodes on the same day. So there was, you'd say, who, what, what's going on in this one? What did I just come from in that one? You know, but the experiences, look, it's, it's all great. I'm, I'm a kid. I'm 63. When Star wars came out, I was 13 and I ended up in Star Wars. I've got a great character. I play in these video games and, and worked with Harrison Ford and When I was 12 I was a vampire clown in a circus and I ended up becoming Grandpa Munster, a funny vampire. So I have been consistently blessed and all of it has led me to this moment in time where I make these faith based movies. Because, because you guys, look, we're, we see the world in a similar way because I, you know, I pay attention to you. We're, we're. Our, our culture is, is fast slipping down into a vast nothingness because everything given us, they call it entertainment. It's just like they call it news. It's all the same with the, with one point of view. So how could it be entertaining if, if you know how it's going to end, who's going to be in it, all that other stuff.

[Clay Travis]

We're talking to Daniel Roebuck. I want to give you an opportunity to speak out on this too. As we finish the interview, I want everybody to go see the Hail Mary, Daniel Roebuck's book, Daniel Roebuck's movie. So I've told Buck, I did. I've done daily television a ton in la, sports based, and the amount of time that guys who work on those shows, build sets, carry the cameras around during breaks will come up and give me a fist pound and say, dude, you're saying everything that I wish I could say. I think a lot of people listening to us have this idea that Hollywood is a monolith and that everybody hates what many of the people listening to this right now would believe. I found that not to be true. Particularly the number of guys and gals who work and do the actual grunt work of making movies and television. I bet you have to. Maybe you could tell people out there don't always paint with a huge broad brush when it comes to the people who make many of these movies and actually do the physical jobs.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Yeah, the crew you are, Clay, you're right. The crew is generally thinking more in the spectrum that I think we think. But the people running it, you know, are not. You know, they make a lot of movies about how horrible the blacklist is, but believe me, if they, you know, they, they wouldn't blacklist you in a second. I try to stay, and I'll be honest with you, this is the, maybe the most that I've leaned even in a conversation, because I'm, I don't really give a flying egg what Robert De Niro thinks about anything, let alone politics, you know, being, being the, you know, Billy Elish, all these people, one after another, they're, they're millionaires who have no sense of the common life. That common man, live. But you're talking about the hard working crew. That's the common man, by the way. That's me. I'm a working class guy. When you're a character actor, you know, I don't have the, I don't have the platform to be a star. My platform is to support the star. But I made a good living standing next to Andy Griffith and Kathy Bates and, you know, Don Johnson and they put the new name into Art the Clown. You know what I mean? But I think, you know, people going to see like our movie, the Hail Mary. It's, it's on Angel Studios now. We just premiered there. It'll be running on. If you can't find it in the theater now, soon it'll be on Amazon Prime, Apple tv, all those. But look, the only way we can get Hollywood to change is we could. We got to keep making these smaller movies. We got to show them that there's success in it, get people into the movies. The only way you're going to change it is if someone sees that. Huh? I can maybe make money from that. I make the movies through like the Hail Marys made through a not for profit called a channel of peace. People could go to our channel of peace dot org. We literally make the movies. I don't get paid to act, direct, write, produce. Up to this point, I haven't, I don't know that I can hold on to that forever. But this movie, the Hail Mary, is my gift and the gift of my wife and my daughter, my family, all who worked on it. It's, it's our gift and we hope people will take a moment to go see it.

[Clay Travis]

Awesome. The movie is the Hail Mary. Daniel Roebuck, we appreciate the time and good luck with the movie going forward.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Hey, keep doing the good work you guys are doing. We're, we're blessed to have you on the airwaves. Thank you.

[Buck Sexton]

Those libs, those libs are hinky, sir. We're going to keep them on.

[Daniel Roebuck]

It's all hanky. Thank you, guys.

[Clay Travis]

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Clay and Buck before we head off for the weekend, want to remind you about the Clay and Buck podcast network, which is on the iHeart app wherever you get your podcast. I just realized we have one minute, Clay, and you want to get to some of these fun talkbacks. So let's do that. D Podcast listener Kyle from Tennessee calling out Clay and me kind of play.

[Clay Travis]

D All right, Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

As a millennial, I feel like I'm in the perfect middle position here to Mog you on Gen X trivia. Biff Henderson. It was Biff Tannen. Come on, man.

[Clay Travis]

And the proof he's right, E. We got wrong. Well, just because I live in the future and you live in the past, doesn't mean you have to be angry at me. You know, like back in the day, there were a lot of Biff. Was it Biff Henderson?

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[Buck Sexton]

This is like Wyatt Earp with the you gotta back your brother's play. Like, what am I? I'm Leaf Clay hanging on this one. Come on.

[Clay Travis]

Biff Henderson was the stage manager in the 90s for David Letterman. There's not a lot of biffs in my. In my experience. So that was on us. A big whiff. We got mogged by listeners.

[Daniel Roebuck]

Well done.

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