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Clay Travis
All right, third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we are joined by Harvard Law professor emeritus and best selling author Alan Dershowitz. He's got a new book out released just yesterday, the Preventive State. The Challenge of Preventing Serious Harms While Preserving Essential Liberties. Go get your copy. Read it on the beach. You'll impress everybody who sees you with how smart you are. Professor Dershowitz, good to have you on.
Alan Dershowitz
Hey, it's great to be on. It's a very topical book because it deals with all the preventive mechanisms that we use to try to stop crimes from occurring like deportation. It also.
Clay Travis
I was gonna jump right into that. I mean, tell us about, tell us about the deportation piece and how you think the administration's doing on a legal front there.
Alan Dershowitz
Well, you know, deportation is one of the oldest forms of prevention known to humankind. It used to be called exile. If we were afraid of somebody, we would exile them and make them leave the country. And so we're using that now as a mechanism of prevention. And I would say that I would give a split verdict to the administration. They're doing the right thing substantively, that is, they're trying to throw the right people out. They're trying to make sure that we're not subject to crime by gang members. On the other hand, they're not doing such a great job on due process. And the Supreme Court has basically come down with split decisions. They basically said, look, the president has the authority to decide who's in the country and who's not in the country, but he has to cross every constitutional T and dot every constitutional I. And. And so the courts have struck back on some of the mechanisms that are being used, but they said it's okay to use deportation as a method of crime prevention.
Ryan Seacrest
Talking to Alan Dershowitz, you and I have trod a similar path where I voted Democrat and then Democrats I started to see losing their mind. And I have changed how I voted. I'm curious for you. You're. You've had a longer career in the law than I have by by far and a much more success. But I'm also a lawyer. When did in your mind it go from a quote unquote, traditionally liberal perspective to stand, for instance, for First Amendment free speech, for basic principles of fairness, and turn into more of a conservative one? Do you remember a point in time when you looked around and said, boy, the ACLU isn't the ACLU that I grew up supporting?
Alan Dershowitz
Well, supporting. I was on the national board. I was the youngest person on the national board of the aclu. I spent years supporting the aclu. I worked with the ACLU to defend the rights of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois. I defended people on death row. As an ACLU lawyer, I won't give a nickel to the aclu. And I call the ACLU the Anti Civil Liberties Union. They have become completely partisan and political. Once every two years they represent a Nazi in order to show that they're still civil libertarians. But the vast, vast, vast majority of their work is on progressive woke left wing causes. And you know, they become kind of the leader in the weaponization of the legal system against Donald Trump, against Republicans, against conservatives, against Christians. And so I'm totally contemptuous. You know, it's interesting. I've devoted my whole life to human rights, civil liberties and civil rights. I now see something that's marked civil liberties, civil rights, human rights. I throw in the garbage pail because I know it's going to be on the wrong side of everything today. Human rights has just turned against Israel, against the United States, against Christianity, against decency. And so I have no support for those concepts anymore. They've been hijacked, they've been taken away. And I'm still a civil libertarian. And you know, I describe myself as a constitutional libertarian, but as well as a meritocratic egalitarian and a constructive contrarian. So I haven't changed. But like Ronald Reagan said, the Democrats have left me. I left the Democratic Party hours after the Democratic Convention this year when I saw that they were picking one after the other, progressive, anti liberal speakers, anti Israel speakers, sometimes anti Semitic speakers. And the Republicans were doing a better job at preserving liberty and democracy and freedom of speech. I'm not a Republican, I'm an independent, but I'm not a Democrat.
Ryan Seacrest
How'd you vote?
Alan Dershowitz
I can't say because I love sleeping with my wife and she has made me sworn me to secrecy. I can tell you this. I voted for Biden and I voted for Hillary Clinton. But I'm not going to disclose how I voted in the last, in the last election and, or how I would vote in the next election. But I have been supportive of many of the things that Trump has done, just as I was supportive of many of the things that previous presidents have done, while at the same time being critical of many of the things. And deportation is one of the things I'm concerned about. I'm also concerned that Donald Trump may abandon Israel. That's been a concern for me and Is he going to allow Israel to protect itself against a potential nuclear Iran? I don't know the answer to that question. In my book, the Preventive State, I spend a lot of time on the Iran issue because that's the personification of preventive attack. I used the example of Nazi Germany in 1935, when Britain and France could have destroyed Nazi Germany before it was capable of destroying all of Europe and killing 50 million people. And they didn't do it because they didn't take Hitler seriously and, you know, peace in our time, Chamberlain. And that enabled Hitler to kill 50 million people. Had they attacked, they would have, you know, killed 15 million, 15,000 people or 20,000 people, and they would have defeated Nazi Germany. But, you know, the history is blind to the future, and we just don't know. At that time, we didn't know what we were stopping. And so I spend time in my book on that as well.
Clay Travis
The Preventive State, the Challenge of Preventing Serious Harms While Preserving Essential Liberties. Professor Dershowitz's book just came out yesterday. And Professor Dershowitz, if I could draw upon your time as a criminal defense attorney, I know you're not on this case, that would be interesting. You're not on this case, but I'm sure you've been following it and seeing in the headlines. What is your just overall sense as to the likely outcome, to the degree you can see it this early on in the case, or perhaps the pitfalls for either the defense or the prosecution in the Sean Combs, AKA Puff Daddy, AKA P. Diddy, sex trafficking case that's getting a lot of attention to headlines, given how high profile Mr. Combs is.
Alan Dershowitz
If I had to make a prediction, I would predict that he'd get convicted and that his conviction would be reversed on appeal. I don't understand how a jury should be able to see that horrible video of him kicking and beating up his girlfriend in the hallway of the hotel. That's not what he's charged with. He's charged with running, you know, a RICO enterprise. And that that tape is so darn prejudicial, you can't get it out of your head. As soon as you see that tape, you say to yourself, I want to convict this son of a bitch. And so I think it will be reversed on appeal. But it's very hard to believe that. That a jury won't find his conduct.
Clay Travis
But why do you think Professor Dershowitz to lean it so.
Ryan Seacrest
Clearly you're right.
Clay Travis
I mean, the guy's a. The guy's a bad guy. I mean, everyone. There's no right. He's not on trial for being a good guy or a bad guy. He's a bad guy. That's very clear. And I think even the defense isn't really contesting that. But as a matter of law, you know.
Alan Dershowitz
Yeah.
Clay Travis
Why would you. How would you see it, perhaps. And again, I know you're. We're asking you to sort of see into the future, which is tough, but how would you see it being overturned if, let's say, the jury does what you think? Why would you think then that it might be overturned on appeal?
Alan Dershowitz
For the same reason that the Harvey Weinstein New York conviction was overturned, and that is the admissibility of prejudicial material that swayed the jury to convict, even though the elements of the crime and the elements of RICO are very tough to establish and the elements of, you know, conducting a sex trafficking business. So that would be the grounds for reversal. That evidence came in that should never have been seen by the jury.
Ryan Seacrest
All right, let me go back to your experience and you're staying committed to principal, ACLU and everything else. We talked earlier on this program as suddenly Jake Tapper writes a book and says, boy, we could have never known that Joe Biden wasn't mentally or physically competent for the job. And the New York Times and the Washington Post write editorial saying, boy, you know, somebody really should have said something about the state that Biden was in. And, you know, the media ostensibly does exist to speak truth to power. They wrote democracy dies in darkness at the top of the Washington Post. You are steeped in liberal circles where you hang out, where you live. What are people who read the New York Times and watch msnbc, what are they saying in conversations that you hear? Do they feel as if they have been lied to, or are they so convinced that Trump is Hitler that they don't even care if they're being lied to? Because it's a price worth paying. What do you hear?
Alan Dershowitz
It's the latter. In private, they're praising people who lied and they wish the lie had been successful and that Biden would have been allowed to run because many of them think that Biden would have snuck past the finish line because he's more likable than Kamala Harris. I don't know whether that's true or not. I'm not a pollster. But I can only tell you that people on the ms, you know, on that side, the New York Times, cnn, MSNBC side, they don't care about lying. They would have been very happy if There had been a complete and total and successful cover up in order to defeat Trump. And then Biden would be president for a couple of months, and then he'd have to leave office, either through the 25th Amendment or by resignation. And then we'd have Kamala Harris as president. That's what the Martha's Vineyard crowd is objecting to. Not that they were denied the truth, but that they didn't do a good enough job in covering up the truth.
Ryan Seacrest
Let me ask you this too. Given that I think anybody who's a rational, reasonable person would acknowledge that Biden was not mentally or physically capable of being President of the United States. Do you as a lawyer believe there is any value in challenging some of the decisions made by Biden? For instance, this big pardon, expansive pardons that he gave at the end of his tenure, based on his mind not being capable of entering into the decisions that were being made? Is there any legal ground there in your mind to challenge these things?
Alan Dershowitz
I don't think so, because then you'd have to challenge probably some of the things out at the end of the Reagan presidency, maybe the Roosevelt presidency, certainly the Woodrow Wilson presidency. You know, if in fact Biden didn't know that things were being signed for him by the use of the auto pen, that might pose an interesting challenge. It would have to be something that was constitutionally required to be signed, like a law. Pardons, for example, don't have to be signed. You can just give an oral pardon. But for a law to be valid, it has to be either signed or vetoed by the president. And if it could be demonstrated that Biden didn't really know and that he was, he had authorized somebody else to do the signing, that could raise problems. You know, in some respects, all of this goes back to prevention, because what is the 25th Amendment all about? It's all about trying to prevent a non qualified president from having access to the nuclear trigger. And you know, we do so many things preventively in order to assure that greater dangers don't exist. And we have to make sure that when we do it, we do it according to due process. And that's the crisis we're in now. We're not in a constitutional crisis, we're in a political crisis and a constitutional conflict. And the Constitution has so far figured out ways of getting resolving these issues. And so I'm not worried. As long as President Trump says and really does not in any way violate a Supreme Court order, then we're not in a crisis.
Ryan Seacrest
Last question for you. Quickly here because we gotta get to a break. But you talked about your experience with Trump and being of the opinion that he's better on Israel issues than certainly Democrats have been based on the platform they put Forward in the DNC2 parter. Do you hear a lot of Jewish people out there acknowledging that Trump has been very good on Israel? And the second part of that, do people say, hey, you can criticize him for a lot, but the idea that he's Hitler is absolutely insane? I'm talking Jewish voters in particular.
Alan Dershowitz
No, I wish there were more sensible Jewish voters, but there are a lot of Jewish voters who don't believe he's supportive of Israel. You know, these are people who are afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome. Some of them also have Bibi derangement syndrome. And you know, neither Netanyahu nor Trump can do anything right. And so if he's supportive of Israel, it must be for an effort to get a plane from Qatar. If he's against people on campus who are anti Semites or anti. Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, it has to do with universities. Unless you are in some of these radical, progressive woke left wing circles, it is impossible to understand the depths. I mean, they think it's an insult to Hitler to say that Trump's Hitler. They think he's worse. These people just have no limit to what. And by the way, I know people in Israel have the same attitude toward Netanyahu. They cannot be rational about those subjects. And it's too bad because, you know, in both cases, Netanyahu and Trump have done many good things and they've done some things that are subject to criticism and people should have a nuanced view, but they don't.
Ryan Seacrest
Alan Dershowitz, appreciate the time, sir. Book is out. The Preventative State, the challenge of preventing serious harms while preserving essential liberties. We appreciate the time, sir.
Alan Dershowitz
Thank you so much. Be well.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Hope all of you are having a fabulous Wednesday. We are joined now by a woman who had to go all the way to the Supreme Court to be able to speak and vote in the main legislature. She is Laurel Libby. And for those of you who don't know, I want to give a quick background and you can correct me if I'm wrong. On any of this, Laurel, and thanks for coming on with us. You spoke out against men being able to win women's championships in Maine. Something that I would imagine the vast, vast majority of people in Maine, certainly almost everyone listening to us in Maine right now would agree with. But the vast majority of people in general. You were then censored because you refused to apologize for this. They would not allow you to vote to represent your constituents in Maine. You went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court Yesterday, in a 7 to 2 ruling, said the Maine legislature has to allow you to do your job on behalf of your constituents. Have I got that right? Can you believe that all this has actually happened?
Buck Sexton
That is a very concise yet accurate summary I would have to say. And no, it is kind of. It's pretty unbelievable when you. When you say it like that. Remarkable that a majority party would try to silence a member of the minority party and take my constituents vote away. It's astounding. The defenders of democracy at work.
Alan Dershowitz
What.
Clay Travis
What exactly is there?
Ryan Seacrest
And.
Clay Travis
And Laurel, appreciate you being with us and thank you for. For doing what. What you've been doing. Standing for what is, I think, obvious. Obvious truth in this matter. But just so I'm. I'm clear on this, Clay's been following this. This story very closely. What is their rationale for silencing you? Like what? You know, I understand you've gone against the narrative, but officially speaking, on what grounds are they doing this?
Buck Sexton
Well, they don't really have good grounds to do this. First of all, I haven't broken the law. I didn't do anything, even against our rules, which they're claiming that I did. What I did was from the privacy of my own home. I made a Facebook post and posted side by side photos of a biological male participating in the pole vault, winning fifth place at a regional meet last year, and then winning the girls state championship this year. And, you know, they say a picture speaks a thousand words, and this did. And so the excuse that they came up with was that this was a photo of a minor. And I'll just remind folks that when you win a state championship, you have to expect that your photo is going to be out there. And indeed, these were publicly shared photos that were public before I shared them. But that's the grounds that the Democrats are trying to stretch to. To say that this was. Should not have been post. And we use that to make their unconstitutional censure and say that I'm not allowed to represent my constituents.
Ryan Seacrest
So you're still not allowed to speak on the floor of the State House. Is this true? In other words, while you're allowed to vote, you aren't allowed to make arguments about how you were voting.
Buck Sexton
That is entirely accurate, and it's just as ludicrous as it sounds. So I will be allowed to vote now, but I will not be allowed to speak as the case makes its way through the courts. Of course, being able to vote on behalf of my constituents, that is the most important piece. And that's how my constituents had been disenfranchised with not having a vote on the legislation. And so that's what we requested from the Supreme Court in our emergency application, was to have the ability to vote on behalf of my constituents. And on June 5th will be heard in the First Circuit Court of Appeals regarding full case. And that includes getting my voice back.
Ryan Seacrest
Okay, so this is just bonkers to me that this could become an issue in any state. But if it became an issue, let's say in Illinois or in Vermont or in California, states that are overwhelmingly Democrat, that might make a little bit more sense. But Trump won one of the congressional districts in your state. The state was decided by 7 points overall. What percentage of Maine residents do you think agree with the argument that you are making? What do you hear when you go out and about in the state?
Buck Sexton
Well, you know, when I talk to folks, it's clear that the polling that demonstrates 2/3 of Mainers don't believe that biological males should be participating in girls sports is extremely accurate. But I have to tell you, the numbers are even more startling than you may realize. Of course, the breakdown by congressional district is impressive, but when you get to actually how much the Democrats won the House majority by in our state of 1.3 million people, they only won the majority by 60 votes across the entire state. So they're ruling with an iron fist here and making these unconstitutional moves when they only hold the majority by 60 votes.
Clay Travis
Do you think, Laurel, there's going to be any political blowback on the Democrats? You know, I don't mean news cycle blowback. Right. I mean, you know, the next election cycle. Is this the kind of thing that, by the way, Mainers. Is that right?
Buck Sexton
Mainers. You got it.
Clay Travis
Mainers. Just making sure. Mainers, they see this and they realize, wow, the Democrats in our state have. Have lost their minds. You know, what's your sense of that?
Buck Sexton
Yeah. You know, as I talk with folks, it does seem apparent to everyone but Augusta Democrats that they have lost their minds. And I say Augusta Democrats because this goes across party Lines. There are plenty of Democrats out and about in Maine who think it's insanity to allow biological males to compete in girls sports. And they also think it's insanity to unconstitutionally bar a sitting legislator from voting on behalf of her district. So the folks who are in power in Augusta are way out on a limb here. It is not representative of your average Mainer that doesn't agree with them.
Ryan Seacrest
So obviously you have coming up in Maine next year, a big Senate race. Susan Collins, Republican, is going to be up for reelection. I believe I'm correct in this. You can correct me if I'm wrong. And that is massive because Republicans have a 5347 advantage. And Susan Collins, one of the rare members of the Senate who was representing a state that voted differently in the presidential race. In other words, cross party. Am I crazy or does this have to be a fairly significant issue statewide in that race based on what the Democrats in the legislature have done to you.
Buck Sexton
I certainly hope this has significant influence in the 2026 election. Of course, we do have Senator Collins reelection. She is the last Republican senator in New England, which is pretty remarkable. In addition, we also have gubernatorial race. We have, of course, the congressional CD1 and CD2, and we also have the full legislature every two years, House and Senate up for a vote. And so, you know, I hope that this does come back to bite the Democrats next year. And I certainly will be working very hard to ensure that it does.
Clay Travis
Laurel, appreciate you standing strong on this issue. And as you continue to do just that, we'll have you back on the show. Make sure everybody knows about you're doing up in Maine. Beautiful along the coast. I hear Mainers have some great stuff up there.
Buck Sexton
It's gorgeous throughout.
Clay Travis
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Thank you.
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Clay Travis
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Ryan Seacrest
Welcome back in Clay Travis, BUCK Sexton show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program, a variety of different big news stories out there and we have had a heck of a time breaking them all down for you off air. We've shared on this social clip, but I've tried to be nice, but it's rare for me to be the super nice guy here talking about Katie Couric. Interviewing Jake Tapper. Neither of us had any idea that Katie Couric was still doing media. And I said I used to have a little bit of a crush on her. And Buck just out of nowhere calls her a New York 6. And now it is ricocheting throughout the inner Internet interwebs.
Clay Travis
That's above average. That's above average. I think that's pretty nice.
Ryan Seacrest
Above average.
Clay Travis
I mean, that's, that means she's getting more right swipes than left swipes on Tinder.
Ryan Seacrest
We've got a couple of clips here. Well, let's see. Let's get one call in. Well, yeah, let's, yeah, Simon, he's gone. All right. Well, Simon in Alabama had a question I'm reading and I think it's an interesting one. He wanted to talk about habeas corpus and maybe we'll talk about that some tomorrow. I this is a super nerd thing that I did, Buck. I researched Abraham Lincoln's habeas corpus decision. We'll put a pin in this and this will be the nerdiest thing that you have ever heard on radio. I will analyze Abraham Lincoln's habeas corpus decision. But hey, go ahead and put this one on the, on the horizon. Make sure you don't miss it. I will analyze Abraham Lincoln's habeas corpus decision and how I think the decision that he made could apply as it pertains to illegal immigrants in our modern Day tomorrow. So, hey, you want to talk barn burners? 160-year-old legal precedent analysis for me, I, as nerds do, nerded out on this one. I got a bunch of takes, but I wanted to play these before we finish the day. Cause we got some good clips out there right now. This is Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo ripping Jake Tapper to shreds. Listen to cut 31. The book is titled Original Sin, claiming to detail how Biden's staffers made efforts to hide his decline from the public and the media. The COVID has Biden with his hands over his eyes. And it could just as easily be a picture of the writers of this book who are pretending they didn't see and hear what everybody else did. And look, I do believe the book is a cover for something, and it's a cover for something that's much more serious to me than Biden age and stage ever were. The reality that many in the media knew damn well that Biden was losing it, but they played it down because they wanted Trump to lose more. The original sin is not hiding Biden's age and stage, but hiding this preference.
Clay Travis
He's totally right.
Ryan Seacrest
He's 100% right.
Clay Travis
He's 100% right. So Bravo to Chris Cuomo, bro. Cuomo, whom I think, honestly, because CNN hung him out to dry, he's just kind of like, you know what? Go bleep yourself. You know, he doesn't. He doesn't care.
Ryan Seacrest
It is interesting when people get fired and become better versions of what they were already doing. Chris Cuomo is actually a really good example.
Clay Travis
I think fired Chris Cuomo is. And I. And I mean this. I don't. I don't mean that as actually like a slight. I think posi and n. Chris Cuomo because he realized that a lot of the Democrats that he thought were on his team or whatever these people are. These people have no ethics. They. I think that he's been both humbled and he's wiser now. That's just what I sense. I don't know the guy. I never met him, but that's what I sense from him on the air.
Ryan Seacrest
I think a lot of people, when they don't have the big support of corporate media, maybe let's say somebody like Don Lemon, who also was on air at cnn, they flounder, they fall apart because they were being raised up to their job.
Clay Travis
Do you remember how stupid he was? First of all, I used to do his show, so I've always known that Don Lemon is just. He's just not a smart man. He's just never. Yeah, and when I say he's not a smart man, I mean, yeah, maybe he's like, cunning in certain ways or, you know, navigated the media landscape. This is not a curious man. This is not a man who ever read books or cared to learn anything about anything. Do you remember when he sat down with Elon Musk when he was the Elon graciously, graciously invited him and Tucker to sort of be more active on X. And. And Don Lemon decided to basically trash Elon to his face to prove his journalistic credentials. And Elon was just like, wow, you are as dumb as Trump has said all along. Trump was right once again.
Ryan Seacrest
No doubt. Did we play Jon Stewart going in? I can't remember on. Did we play that? Cut. We did.
Clay Travis
Wait, Clay, you're going to like this. Talk back even better.
Ryan Seacrest
You want to get to this point?
Clay Travis
Okay. You want to hold it? You want to hold that?
Ryan Seacrest
No, no, let's do we. We. I'm told we did. We're on three hours. We got a ton of audio in front of us. We played a ton of audio today. I couldn't remember. I wanted to make sure that we did because I wanted to give Jon Stewart credit. We just gave Chris Cuomo credit. I'm going to give John from Oklahoma City a lot of credit. Talk back. BB this is a man who knows how to make an argument.
Clay Travis
All right, Clay, look, Katie Kirk was an absolute dime back in the day.
Ryan Seacrest
Amen.
Clay Travis
That's all we got. Not. He's just dropping that. There's nothing else.
Ryan Seacrest
Just. I mean, I mean, if you're like, I mean, you don't have to explain why Michael Jordan was great at basketball. Katie Couric was a dime back in the day. You know who else agrees? Jesse Kelly's already weighed in. He says you're being way too harsh. By the way, cnn. I do want to play this. We're having some fun. So let's play another ridiculous clip. We told you exactly how Trump in the Oval Office talking to the South African president would be covered in by the legacy media that told you Biden was sharp as attack. Here is CNN saying Trump is being. It's an ambush and he's sharing debunked conspiracy theories. This is cut 32. This is what you would have heard on CNN.
Drew Goins
Darrell Ramaphosa brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting, but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush that President Trump laid out with video, with printed out news stories. This was a laundry list of debunks. This was a laundry list of debunked conspiracy theories. Some South Africans are telling me this is Afriforum propaganda. Afriforum is a white Africana lobby group that's considered a white nationalist organization by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Everything, almost everything that President Trump said in the Oval Office is not true, was inaccurate, has been repeatedly debunked.
Clay Travis
I mean, Southern Poverty Law Center, a joke of an organization, but just put that aside.
Ryan Seacrest
Well, also, I mean, the videos exist, right? If there were prominent white political leaders in the United States calling for killing black people, they would be arrested five seconds after they left the stage. And it would be talked about how we needed to have a national conversation about racism in this country for the next decade. I mean, they point out, I don't even know where David Duke is. That's the only dude I can even find in the last 30 years, 40 years of American politics that has in any way been publicly racist and had a prominent job. They still reference him. This is very common. South Africa.
Clay Travis
In this country, you can get fired from your job for saying something that's not even racist, but that somebody decided that maybe could be construed by someone else as racist, even if it wasn't your intent. Okay? They have to search high and low. They have to fabricate racism in this country.
Ryan Seacrest
Katie Couric, Keep up the good work.
Clay Travis
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Ryan Seacrest
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Clay Travis
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Ryan Seacrest
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Ryan Seacrest
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Alan Dershowitz
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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – "Hour 3 - Alan Dershowitz on the Preventative State"
Podcast Information:
In this episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton engage in an in-depth conversation with renowned Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz about his newly released book, "The Preventive State: The Challenge of Preventing Serious Harms While Preserving Essential Liberties." Later in the episode, they also welcome Laurel Libby, a Maine legislator who recently won a significant Supreme Court ruling allowing her to represent her constituents despite controversial actions that led to her censure.
Discussion on the Preventive State and Deportation
The discussion begins with Clay introducing Dershowitz and his new book, emphasizing its relevance to current political and legal climates.
Political Shift and Critique of the ACLU
Dershowitz delves into his political transformation, expressing disappointment with organizations like the ACLU, which he feels have become partisan.
Views on Recent Political Events and Legal Challenges
Jewish Voters and Support for Israel
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Background and Supreme Court Ruling
Later in the episode, Clay and Buck introduce Laurel Libby, who has recently been involved in a significant legal battle to secure her right to represent her constituents in Maine.
Impact on Maine's Political Landscape
Public Sentiment and Future Implications
Legal and Constitutional Considerations
Notable Quotes:
The episode delves into critical issues surrounding preventive state mechanisms, civil liberties, and the intersection of politics and constitutional law. Through Alan Dershowitz's perspectives on deportation and civil liberties and Laurel Libby's firsthand experience with political dissent in Maine, the hosts highlight the ongoing tensions between governmental authority and individual rights. The conversations reflect broader themes of political polarization, media bias, and the challenges of maintaining constitutional integrity in contemporary governance.
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