Hour 3 - All Things Special Elections

Summary

Summary of "Hour 3 - All Things Special Elections"
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Release Date: March 31, 2025

Hosted by Clay Travis and Buck Sexton under Premiere Networks, "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" delves into pressing news, politics, and current events with a blend of intelligence and humor. In the "All Things Special Elections" episode, released on March 31, 2025, Clay and Buck explore various facets of special elections in the United States and their implications both domestically and internationally.

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1. Wisconsin State Supreme Court Elections

Discussion Highlights:

• The Current Political Landscape:
  Wisconsin does not have registered political parties, allowing for same-day voter registration. This flexibility has led to a significant influx of voters in recent days, with over 101,000 new registrations in just three days.

• Voter Demographics and Trends:
  The majority of new voters hail from municipalities that supported Kamala Harris, giving Democrats a current advantage of approximately 6.4% in these areas. However, Buck Sexton (02:58) emphasizes that this lead is not definitive:

  "It's not a clean science. It doesn't mean exactly how it's going to turn out."

• Partisan Influence on the Judiciary:
  The hosts discuss the misconception of a nonpartisan judiciary. Clay Travis (04:10) underscores the significant financial investments and involvement of unions and PACs in Wisconsin's judicial races, highlighting the politicization of these positions:

  "It's very, very obvious...all these other groups, these PACs, are getting involved in Wisconsin."

• Implications for Gerrymandering:
  A Democratic majority on the State Supreme Court could facilitate gerrymandering, potentially adding two extra seats in the House of Representatives in 2026, thereby shifting the political balance.

Notable Quote:

"This is a political race. Yeah." — Buck Sexton (02:58)

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2. Florida's 6th Congressional District Race

Discussion Highlights:

• Randy Fine's Candidacy:
  Former Congressman Mike Waltz previously won the seat by a significant margin. Currently, Randy Fine holds a substantial nine-point lead in early voting (04:24). Despite initial concerns about his approach to DeSantis and internal polling anxieties, Fine is expected to secure the seat comfortably.

• Democratic Challenges:
  The Democratic candidate faces considerable disadvantages, including accumulated baggage and the district's strong Republican leaning.

Notable Quote:

"He really kind of fumbled the ball going in and was a very easily disliked person by members of the Republican Party." — Clay Travis (05:39)

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3. International Perspectives on Judicial Partisanship

Discussion Highlights:

• Global Trends of Anti-Democratic Moves:
  Ryan Gardusky (06:10) sheds light on how several NATO nations are disqualifying leading presidential contenders, using judiciary measures to sideline far-right figures.

• Case Study – Marine Le Pen:
  Marine Le Pen, leader of France's National Rally (Patriot Party), faces accusations of embezzlement related to her dual roles in the European Parliament and national party leadership. Despite the lack of personal enrichment evidence, she faces a potential two-year prison term, hindering her 2027 presidential bid.

• Comparative Analysis:
  Buck Sexton (09:07) lists countries like Romania, Brazil, Germany, Turkey, and Moldova where opposition leaders or far-right parties are being banned or marginalized, drawing parallels to the situation in Wisconsin.

Notable Quote:

"The judges are trying to make sure they cannot hold elected office... this is why it's so important for conservatives to win these judicial elections." — Clay Travis (10:39)

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4. Trump’s Foreign Policy Initiatives

Discussion Highlights:

• Nuclear Negotiations with Iran:
  President Trump has reached out to Iran's Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, urging the dismantling of Tehran's nuclear program. Despite Iran's refusal, Trump asserts a firm stance:

  "Don't force my hand." — Buck Sexton (15:09)

• Stance on Russia and Putin:
  Trump vows to impose stringent financial sanctions on Russia if Putin does not engage in meaningful negotiations, positioning Trump as a tougher negotiator than his predecessor.

• Greenland as a U.S. Protectorate:
  J.D. Vance (27:11) advocates for the U.S. to partner with Greenland, citing its strategic importance and resource potential. The discussion highlights historical precedents like the Louisiana Purchase and suggests that Greenland could benefit from a U.S. protectorate status, enhancing Arctic security and resource access.

Notable Quote:

"I think there's something so cynical and selfish about what the Democrat mindset is right now with all of this." — Buck Sexton (18:22)

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5. Listener Calls and Perspectives

Discussion Highlights:

• Immigration and Assimilation:
  Peter from Connecticut (31:17) criticizes the current immigration policies that offer in-state tuition and sanctuary city statuses to undocumented immigrants. He contrasts his own immigrant experience, emphasizing mandatory assimilation steps like language acquisition and background checks.

  "The west is committing suicide by bringing certain cultures which are not compatible with the Judeo Christian values that we have." — Peter (32:38)

• Buck's Interaction on Boating Concerns:
  Rob from Grand Haven, Michigan (33:45) discusses competitive sailing on Lake Michigan, leading to a lighthearted exchange about Buck's aversion to open water ventures.

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6. Abortion and Public Health Concerns

Discussion Highlights:

• Risks Associated with Chemical Abortion:
  The hosts address the complications and fatalities linked to chemical abortions, highlighting that over 60% of abortions involve the abortion pill, which carries significant health risks.

• Preborn's Mission:
  Preborn's initiatives to support women post-abortion and their efforts to save unborn lives are discussed, emphasizing the organization's reliance on community donations.

Notable Quote:

"No matter how you feel about abortion, you never want to hear about a woman losing her life." — Buck Sexton (36:43)

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7. Pop Culture and Political Commentary

Discussion Highlights:

• Snow White Movie Flop:
  The hosts critique Disney's latest "Snow White" release, pointing out its substantial financial losses and poor reception. They argue that the failure underscores the pitfalls of pushing political agendas over quality entertainment.

  "It's going to be a loss of hundreds of millions of dollars when all is said and done, I believe for Disney." — Buck Sexton (39:57)

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8. Concluding Remarks and Future Outlook

Discussion Highlights:

• Upcoming Personal Events:
  Buck Sexton shares personal news about his impending fatherhood, adding a personal touch to the episode's close.

• Encouragement to Subscribe and Engage:
  The hosts encourage listeners to subscribe to various shows within the Clay and Buck podcast network, promoting continued engagement and support.

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Overall Insights:

• Judiciary Elections as Political Battlegrounds:
  The episode underscores the increasing politicization of judicial elections in the U.S., drawing international parallels and emphasizing the strategic importance of these positions in shaping future political landscapes.

• Populist Movements and Anti-Democratic Trends:
  The global trend of sidelining opposition leaders highlights a shift towards authoritarianism, raising concerns about democratic backsliding and the manipulation of legal systems for political gains.

• Trump’s Active Foreign Policy:
  President Trump's assertive approach to foreign policy, especially regarding Iran and Russia, positions him as a decisive leader willing to confront adversaries directly, contrasting with perceptions of previous administrations.

• Immigration and Cultural Assimilation Debates:
  The discussion around immigration policies reflects deeper societal debates on assimilation, cultural preservation, and the balance between humanitarian responsibilities and national integrity.

• Health Risks of Abortion and Support Systems:
  Highlighting the medical risks associated with chemical abortions brings attention to the ongoing debates surrounding reproductive rights and the need for support systems for affected women.

• Entertainment vs. Political Agendas:
  The critique of Disney's "Snow White" serves as a commentary on the broader tension between creative expression and political messaging in the entertainment industry.

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Notable Quotes:

1. Buck Sexton on Political Nature of Judicial Races:

   "This is a political race. Yeah." (02:58)

2. Clay Travis on PAC Involvement:

   "It's very, very obvious...all these other groups, these PACs, are getting involved in Wisconsin." (04:10)

3. Buck Sexton on Immigration Laws:

   "Special set of laws. No, none of that should be enforced." (33:45)

4. Peter on Immigration and Assimilation:

   "The west is committing suicide by bringing certain cultures which are not compatible with the Judeo Christian values that we have." (32:38)

5. Buck Sexton on Democrat Mindset:

   "I think there's something so cynical and selfish about what the Democrat mindset is right now with all of this." (18:22)

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This episode of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" provides a comprehensive examination of special elections' complexities, both within the United States and on the international stage. Through informed discussions and diverse perspectives, Clay and Buck offer listeners valuable insights into the evolving political landscape.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Thanks for having me.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's talk Wisconsin State Supreme Court. Tell us what's happening here. We know that there are some seats that would be in play if the Democrats win and can gerrymander because they have a majority on the court. How is it looking? How do you, how do you view this one?

[Clay Travis]

So right now, if so, Wisconsin does not have registered political parties, right? Some states do. A lot of states do not. Wisconsin is one that does not. Wisconsin is one of the few states also has same day voter registration so you can show up with an address, say I live here, I'm a Wisconsin resident, I would like to register to vote and vote. That is also allowed on the law in Wisconsin. As of right now in Wisconsin, there was 101,000 voters over the last three days. If you break down the municipalities that they come from, which is the only way we could really judge how they're possibly going to vote. It's overwhelmingly been Harris of people from people from districts that voted for Kamala Harris. Right now. If you broke down all the early voting common municipalities that voted for Kamala Harris have about a 6.4% advantage over Trump supporter over Trump supporting municipalities. That doesn't. That's not a clean science. It doesn't mean exactly how it's going to turn out. There's no registered parties, as I said. But right now it looks like the Democrats and the progressives have a slight advantage that Republicans and conservatives will have to make up on election day by a substantial margin that Republicans do vote on election day. So that matters. But right now it's about a 6%, 6.4% lean in Harris municipalities in the state.

[Buck Sexton]

Isn't it kind of funny, Ryan, that we're still told by some people they'll say the judiciary is nonpartisan and judges just apply the law. But then when it comes to something like this, all of a sudden everyone is treating this like it is. You know, it's just a Democrat versus a Republican with judicial robes on. Right. Everyone knows that if you get a Democrat advantage on the state Supreme Court, you're going to have possibly two seats gerrymandered. Right. So it just feels like the judges as a nonpartisan entity. And I know in some places it's more obvious than others and it depends on it, but I mean, this is like a, it's a political race. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, very much so. And that's why they spend millions upon millions of dollars, why the unions get involved. Wisconsin's a very heavy unionized state. They'll be, they'll have interest in a lot of things that go on there. And that's why all these other groups, these PACs, are getting involved in Wisconsin. It's very, very obvious. And they would all like the control of the House Representatives in 2026. Two extra seats would make it much, much easier if they broke up Madison and giving Democrats a chance to really pick up seats. And I've heard so far that the western side of the state, the Republican western side of the state, very rural area, have had lower turnout so far. So that's an immensely important key factor is this, is if the Trump coalition can come out. Remember, Wisconsin was Trump's tightest state in 2024, and I believe the tightest state also in 2016. So it is a, it's a, it's a, it's a toss up state. It's a tough state. Um, I know my pack, the 1776 Project Pack. We've been investing in school board races there and spending money on school board races. And I know how difficult it is, especially with nonpartisan things. A lot of people don't know which party people lean on on the ballot when there's nonpartisan. With this Supreme Court race because there's so much money involved, it's likely that people do know, but in other races, people don't know.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, how are you feeling about the congressional race for the 6th district down here in Florida? We had Randy Fine on the last hour. He seems cautiously optimistic, but wants to make sure that the win is a big win.

[Clay Travis]

Well, Randy Fines running right now in a Trump +30 district, former Congressman Mike Waltz won the seat by 33 points in the last election. Republicans have Started building up a lead in the early vote. A substantial lead, about a nine point lead is last time I saw the numbers. That's substantial. And I don't think there's probably very little to no chance that the Democrat can win. And the Democrat, by the way, is somebody with a ton of baggage. So I'm surprised even ran him. If they would have ran a probably better candidate. Who knows if it could have been closer. But the siege is so Republican that Randy Fine should be able to win. It may be a single digit or barely double digit win. It should be much, much larger. Randy Fine came out of the gate when he won his reelection, when he won the primary, rather that he was going to start investigating members of the Desantis administration. And he came out attacking DeSantis himself. He really kind of fumbled the ball going in and was a very easily disliked person by members of the Republican Party. But they put a lot of effort into rescuing his race. Now it's such a Republican seat that he should be fine. But it cannot be overstated how nervous Republicans were about this race and internal polling. And it could have been the reason that they pulled Elise Stefanik from the UN because they thought they could have lost it.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, it seems like that's certainly the case. Now, I wanted to take our attention. We're speaking of Ryan Gardusky. He's got. It's a numbers game podcast, new episode out today. So go subscribe to Clay and Buck network. You'll see it right there. And go, go, please check it out. And listen what is going on over in France with Marine Le Pen and the whole situation of, of their elections. Because I. People are seeing this. They're going, oh, so we're not the only ones where the, the establishment uses the law to knock people out of the game.

[Clay Travis]

Buck, I'm so glad you asked. This is the third NATO nation this month to knock a leading presidential contender off of the ballot. Marine Le Pen is the head of the National Rally. Is the, if they call it the far right, it is the Patriot Party of France. She was the leading contender in the 2027 election. The accusation is of embezzlement. What that really means is that she was member of the European Parliament. They gave her funds to hire a staff. Her staff was working for her as a member of the European Parliament and also working for her as the leader of a party at the same time. Even though there is no evidence that she was taking funds personally, enriching herself, none of that. A lot of people do this. They. It was a complete political hit job. They had been trying to get her arrested and keep her out of running for office for years. Like she has been target number one for the longest, longest time. And they basically said she has two years of prison term. This is a woman who has never had a fracture ever. And by the way, the number was $5 million over 14 years. So it wasn't like she was spending, you know, blowing billions of EU money. It was 5 million over 14 years to paid secretaries and aides to do work for both her national campaign and her and her European one. But what it means, what it means ultimately is that either she will have to go to the Paris Court of Appeals to get an appeal so she can run in 2027, where she is the leading candidate by double digit margin, or her likely successor, her niece's boyfriend, Jordan Bardella, who's 29 years old, will be running at her place. And he's also, by the way, has a lot of support if he does run, if he does run, he will be a Frenchman with Italian ancestry who's in his late 20s. It will be the only time since Napoleon that's been the case in France. But it is, it is, it's, it's really triggering. And this is a, this is what Vice President Vance has been talking about. This is what President Trump's been talking about about Europe. Europe has a lot of popul nationalist parties rising. The center right will not work with them. The judges are trying to make sure they cannot hold elected office. It is, it is, it is so anti democratic from people who scream about democracy all the time, 24 hours. And why it matters to America is when Trump is doing the Ukraine ceasefire, when he's talking about tariffs, people like Georgia Maloney are very pro Trump, they're very pro Western. She's the Prime Minister of Italy. Marine Le Pen is more like Giorgia Meloni than she is like Macron. Who wants to send troops over to fight in Ukraine, who wants the war to continue to go on, who wants retaliatory tariffs against the United States. Marine Le Pen, Georgia Maloney. These kinds of Western nationalist populist leaders see the west as an allied brotherhood and that we can sit there and work together to become, you know, more beneficial. The current status quo. The neoliberals in charge right now, Keir Starmer, Macron, all the rest of them, they are in opposition of a lot of President Trump's agenda. So we want allies and people in allied countries to have nationalist leaders like.

[Buck Sexton]

This in charge, are for these Countries where there have been opposition leaders banned. By the way, the list that I have in front of me here, Ryan, Romania. Right. Opposition leader banned. Brazil, France. We just talked about there's no elections in Ukraine because it's a state of emergency, so no elections going on there. Turkey, Moldov, Moldova. Has Germany tried to ban the AfD party? Right.

[Clay Travis]

Multiple times. Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. So Germany's trying to do this. Who am I missing? Am I missing anyone?

[Clay Travis]

Turkey. Turkey just banned their, Their, their, their leader against Aragon from running. That happened on march, I think 13th. So Turkey did it. And when they don't outright ban them, what happens in, like Austria, for example, the Nationalist party came in first place. They wanted the, they wanted a nationalist and a center right coalition, the people. And instead the center right said to the center left and to the Green Party, which is far left, I'll work with you guys and isolate a third of the electorate so that their voices are not heard. That's what happens on the alternative side more times. Not. But, but what you're talking about as far as banning people. Yeah. Germany, Moldova, Romania, Ukraine doesn't have elections. Turkey, France, Brazil. It's happening everywhere where they're using judiciary as an arm, a political arm, which gets back to like America and Wisconsin. This is why it's so important for conservatives to win these judicial elections. It really means a lot. Mitch McConnell was not wrong in the 2016, 2017 when he said, we need to remake the judiciary. It is essential.

[Buck Sexton]

And just to this point about the parties that are being banned because again, bringing this home. So for people who are listening, you know, wherever they are across the country, I don't follow the European parties as closely as you do, Ryan, but it seems pretty clear to me we're talking to places like France, for example, and Germany that the, quote, far right are people who are overwhelmingly going to say, hey, we have to stop importing the third world into this country at a rate that is not assimilable and is over overrunning the cultural and political fabric of this country with the new arrivals. Is that, I mean, is that the biggest single issue for these guys?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, that. I mean, yes, but there's a couple of things. There's green New Deal energy policies, which they're totally against, which the EU is for mass immigration, having terrorist countries. And also there is something in Europe that. There's a European compact that was signed right after World War II which doesn't allow for deportations of illegal aliens if they come from nations where they could be mistreated. So the reason that England and France, the ECHR is what is called England and France and Germany keep having these terrorists year in and year and they can never deport them is because the ECHR and any independent nation wants to sit there and reform it. They're being stopped by these, by these, by, by these mainstream, quote unquote mainstream parties from holding office so they could sit there and do these reforms. They can't even deport the foreign terrorists in many of these cases because of these quote unquote center right and centrist center left parties. So yeah, those things, reforming the building blocks of the European Union, green new energy and most important immigration. They are pedal to the metal import the third world for Europe and it is a, it's a disaster.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Thank you.

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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So Trump has said a bunch of things the last few days on the national security front, foreign relations front. But one thing that stuck out to me. Well, first he says that Iran better come to the table on nuclear negotiations. There was a letter from Trump to the Islamic Republic of Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khamenei. Try to talk about dismantling the nuclear weapons program that Tehran has and they have said no. And Trump is telling them, you don't want to mess around with Trump and find out you want to have a negotiation here. Don't, don't force My hand. That's President Trump's clear message to them. Trump also says that he is running out of patience when it comes to Putin and Russia. Remember, they were all, oh, he's a puppet of Putin and he's selling out Ukraine. And I said, no, no, he is going to push Ukraine and push Russia. He pushed Ukraine to get to step one. Now he's pushing Russia to meet them at step one. If they don't, Trump is saying he's going to bring down the hammer on really painful financial sanctions on Russia, secondary sanctions on oil sales, because he's saying everybody's got to play ball here, including Putin. This is not do. This is not about doing Zelensky some, some. Or rather doing Putin some favor and leaving Zelensky high and dry. This is about ending a war. So I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that Putin is, who's a, you know, a dirtbag and a bad guy, is slow rolling this whole thing and trying to do maximum leverage. But if you want somebody to stare down Putin, you want someone like Trump to be on the other side of the, of the negotiating table. You definitely don't want Joe Biden, who needs nap time and doesn't know where he is. That's not going to work. And it didn't work, as we know. But something else that came up, too, and there's a, there's a 60 Minutes interview with one of the recently released hostages. This is Yarden Bibas, and he was speaking. I just wanted you to hear what he says here about why this is cut 29, why he is free. If you could say something to President Trump, what would you say? Please stop. Stop this war and help. Help bring all the hostages back.

[Clay Travis]

And you think he can help?

[Buck Sexton]

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And we're all very, very thankful that they managed to get back in one piece and that everything is good. And I still can't forget, will not forget that Elon said he could have gotten them back sooner, but that the Biden administration didn't want the ally of Trump, Elon Musk, to get a win in the public's eye. And that that's really, that's really a summation, I would argue, of everything you're seeing with the Democrats in the Left right now, which is they just, they don't want good things to happen if it means that the people doing them get credit. And they're not Democrats. They'd rather bad things happen, or at least they'd rather things that are good be delayed perhaps indefinitely instead of the other side getting a win. I think there's something so cynical and selfish about what the Democrat mindset is right now with all of this. So, you know, we've seen these, these astronauts, they're. They're trying to stay non political and I get that. So they're not going to say much other than we're glad to be home. And, you know, it's quite a, quite an honor to do all this stuff. I'm not, I'm not a space guy. I got to tell you. I'm not even really a boat guy. So I got to imagine I wouldn't really be a space guy. I'm okay with boats on freshwater. I'm okay with boats where I can see land. But the moment we get out there and it's. You're on the boat and you're stuck on the boat, there's waves and you don't know where land is. That's. The buckster does not like this. This is not for me. I feel bad. I'm here in Miami where there's a lot of yachting and boating and whatever, and I get invited sometimes to go out on people's boats and I just have to politely say, I'm not a boat guy. I'll come hang out of the boat when it's docked for a little bit. You know, I'll come and have a. I'll probably have a glass of sparkling water. I'm not that much fun at parties these days, but I'll come by and say hi, but I'm just not, not a big boat person. But I can imagine if you're not really into that zero gravity and being stuck up in space might be a little beyond my. A little beyond where I'd like to be, where I'd like to go with things. So I can't say that astro astronaut is something that I think as a kid you, you would think, oh, that would be really cool because someone's flying around. The whole zero gravity thing. You have to wear a cool suit. Astronauts are generally considered heroes and there's all the cool movies about them. And that's all true. But the more you think about it as an adult, I think you'd wonder yourself, well, I'd have to actually be up there I don't know if I'd like the food. I don't know if I'd like the accommodations. It's not really for, I'm just saying it's not really for me. So I, I tip my head. Neither is being on a nuclear submarine for that example. Right. There are some jobs that I'm just not cut out for and I don't think astronaut would be, would be one of them. So I am impressed by those who are willing to put themselves out there and do this. And then there's Greenland. What does that have to do with astronauts? Nothing. But I wanted to talk about this. J.D. vance was in Greenland. So this is continuing to be a conversation, a discussion. And this is, I think that they're going to try to pull this off. I don't think this is just all rhetoric. When Trump is talking about the third term and when Trump is talking about, you know, there's some times where he is playing the media, he's, he's weaving, you know, he's doing what he does. He's, he's pulling their chain a little bit. You know, there are things that he likes to do and they all freak out, as we know. And I sit here and I say to you, I don't think that's, I don't think that's going to happen. Right. So it's really just rhetoric meant to inflame his enemies and get a chuckle out of his supporters on a lot of things. I don't think that's the case with this Greenland conversation. I think that this is. You look at the history, as I've said, of the United states starting from 1776 all the way through. We have been acquiring land at different times, right. Sometimes through war and conquest, sometimes through a purchase. Louisiana Purchase, probably the greatest land deal for our side, probably the greatest land deal for the purchaser of all time. I don't think anything else could really come close. So, yeah, there's been some, some big moves that have been made and notice sometimes it's as simple as buying it from another country or coming up with some kind of a deal. Greenland has 40 some thousand people. Greenland is, is not even. I don't even think we could get like a meter rating on it for a radio market if it were, if it were a town or a city in America. Right. Greenland is not a big place population wise. Huge place, landmass wise. A lot of resources, a lot of strategic value for America on a whole range of things. So why not pursue this a little bit, you know, Isn't it kind of funny that people who are, who are saying this is insane, they defend the status quo as though the status quo makes sense. Greenland should be a part of Denmark. Why? Based on what? What is Denmark going to do with it? You know, Denmark. What have you done for me lately? That's what I would ask if I were Greenland. Here is J.D. vance speaking. This is cut 22 speaking to the leadership of. This is. This is real folks like, this is going. This isn't AI. This is going on here. He is speaking to the leadership of Greenland. Play at 22.

[J.D. Vance]

Our message to Denmark is very simple. You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland. You have underinvested in the people of Greenland and you have under invested in the security architecture of this incredible, beautiful landmass filled with incredible people, people. That has to change. And because it hasn't changed, this is why President Trump's policy in Greenland is what it is. It's consistent with the first Trump administration, where you saw significant investments in Arctic security, and it will continue over the next four years under President Trump's leadership.

[Buck Sexton]

Makes a lot of sense here, doesn't it? There's a lot that you can see and a lot that you can point to where you come away and you go, hold on a second. I mean, why doesn't this get some degree of attention? You know, President Trump is thinking about doing this. He's thought about doing it for a long time. I know they say Greenland is not for sale, and Denmark says this, and they're very terse about it. But you know, why? Louisiana Purchase, we bought in what, 1803. We bought Alaska in 1867. There's nothing in international law that would stop Greenland from deciding that it would want to have another protector. If you would. As I said, we have Guam and Samoa. What exactly is the historical association or what is the land mass connectivity between Guam and Samoa and the United States? They're U.S. protectorates, so we have those. So we got about 50,000 people living there, smaller than Schenectady, New York. What's up, Schenectady? National economic output is just a couple of billion, a few billion dollars a year. Fishing is its fishing and tourism, I believe, are its primary industries. And there's a lot that could be done with this. A lot of natural resources, zinc, copper, gold, coal, uranium. There's been an interest in this going back for a long time. Totally underdeveloped. Of course, Denmark's not going to do it, and it could get a lot more valuable in the future as well. It's got a lot of potable water. Keep that in mind. The glaciers that are there, that's all fresh water. And that could, down the line, become very important, cost Denmark a lot of money year in and year out. I don't see why this is such a crazy idea. It's not going to become the 51st state, but it could become a US protectorate. And JD Vance is saying, you know, really, Denmark kind of squawking at us over this one a lot. You know, Denmark maybe should chill out because this should be, shouldn't it? Up to the people of Greenland themselves. This is cut 23.

[J.D. Vance]

Our message is very simple. Yes, the people of Greenland are going to have self determination. We hope that they choose to partner with the United States because we're the only nation on earth that will respect their sovereignty and respect their security. Because their security is very much our security, as these brave Americans show.

[Buck Sexton]

Notice that this is a straightforward pitch rooted in respect for the people who are already there. And we would gain a tremendous amount, I think, as would they. And we should make it worth their while, whatever that means. And I think Trump is certainly willing to do that. So this, this to me is outside the box thinking. That shows you that Trump is not being. He's not being certainly pushed or hemmed in to the usual status quo on anything. And while Doge is doing what it's doing, and while we're seeing a more secure border than we have in decades, this is yet another area where I think some creative thinking could go and should go a long way. I'm actually very enthusiastic about it. Here we go. We have Peter in Fairfield. Connecticut wants to weigh in. Peter, what have you got for us?

[Ryan Gardusky]

Actually, I will. Thank you for taking my call. I was listening to the show and you were talking with illegal immigrants in United States having special rights. I completely agree with you on that. I live in Connecticut. If you are an out of an out of state attending UConn, you will pay out of state tuition. Whereas if you live in Connecticut and you're an illegal, you pay in state tuition. We provide sanctuary cities. We give them driver's licenses without any documents. We are enticing illegals to come to the United States for the benefits that we offer them. Instead of Americanism, some of them outrightly refused to embrace our values that we have and assimilate. When my brothers and I came to United States from Albania as refugees 36 years ago, it was mandatory that you had to submit the background investigation before you came here. You needed a sponsor. We took ESL classes. English is the second language. To learn the language. And the proudest moment in my life was when I became an American citizen, that I was naturalized. And now we're diluting to the point that citizenship actually means nothing to be an American citizen. And when you talk about these things, Arnold Toynbee would come to mind when he said that great civilizations are not murdered, they commit suicide. The west is committing suicide by bringing certain cultures which are not compatible with the Judeo Christian values that we have. They refuse to assimilate. And we're just. We're going to pay a price down the law, down the road.

[Buck Sexton]

Peter, I totally agree. Thank you so much for calling in from Connecticut. And yeah, on that point, which he honed in on as well, that illegals. This is the only area of law where the law doesn't count. And we're all supposed to accept that there are all these other. There are lots. There's a lot of arbitrary stuff in the law that if you and I are on the wrong side of it, we get into a lot of trouble, right? Or at least some trouble. At least there's some expectation there could be enforcement of it. There are a lot of places where, you know, the government says, you do this or else, or this is the rule, because we say so. And you could say, well, I mean, that's pretty arbitrary, but okay, you know, when it comes to being here as an illegal and all kinds of stuff that you do, in addition to just the illegal status, illegal entry, lying about asylum status, or rather lying about why you need asylum status and forged documents and papers, fake Social Security numbers, and all these things that go into being an illegal. No, none of that should be enforced. Why? Because Special set of laws. Let's see here. Rob in Grand Haven, Michigan. What's up, Rob?

[Nate Silver]

Buck, how are you doing, man? Thank you so much for taking my call. And I love the work you're doing, but I want you to talk to you about your little aversion to the water, my man. I live in Grand Haven, Michigan. We sail across Lake Michigan all the time. Competitive sailboat races. You get out about 20 miles, you can't see land. It's no big deal. We got a depth finder, we got a compass. So unless you have spatial differentiation, like in the fog, you got nothing to worry about.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, dude, I. You're. You're talking about a giant body of fresh water. I'm amenable to that. I think Great Lakes, I can get down with that. No, Great White sharks in the Great Lakes, my friend. So I think I could handle the Great Lakes for sure. It's the ocean stuff with the, with the seasickness and, and also, you know, I don't know. Obviously I know the chances of being attacked by a shark. I know this very well because I've read a lot about this are very, very, very slim. But somebody gets got sometimes, so stuff happens. Thank you for calling in. You know, Clay's a big northern Michigan. What's the area? The Upper Peninsula. Big Upper Peninsula advocate. So I got to go check that out at some point.

[Nate Silver]

I will.

[Buck Sexton]

We'll close out here in a few minutes with some talk backs and some calls from you. Any topic from today, fair game. Clay is back tomorrow and so we'll be. He's out right now just, you know, with our friends from tunnel to towers. He's playing golf with Frank Seller down here in Florida. According to a study, as many 20% of women, as many as 20% of women who undergo chemical abortion suffer complications. And this can even be fatal. No matter how you feel about abortion, you never want to hear about a woman losing her life. The abortion pill, as it's referred to, is just one aspect of this chemical abortion wave. It still comes with a lot of unknowns, which is one reason why these deaths have occurred. This pill continues to bring harm to mothers and yet accounts for over 60% of abortions. Preborn's network of clinics get countless visits daily from women seeking help after taking this pill. Regretting their decision, Preborn welcomes these women with open arms and offers them life changing support. And Preborn's mission is to save the lives of unborn babies by convincing pregnant mothers to choose life over abortion for their unborn child. As abortion continues to rise, Preborn is expanding their life affirming care across our nation to help more hurting women and save more babies. So if you have the means, please consider a gift. To help preborn achieve their mission, Preborn relies entirely on donations from you, the pro life community. Your tax deductible donation of any amount will help their staff to help save unborn children and many pregnant mothers. Dial 250, say the keyword baby from your phone. Dial pound 250 and say baby. Sponsored by Preborn. Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast, Sundays at noon eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Silver]

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back in closing up shop here on Clay and Buck for the day. So please go subscribe to the Clay and Buck podcast network. You got this show. You've got the Buck Brief little podcast that I put together a few times a week. You've got a whole slew of great hosts, including our friend Ryan Garduski, who was on earlier in the program. And yeah, go check it out. And what else do I have for you? Oh, Clay will be back on air tomorrow. He's back tomorrow and then he's out again on Thursday. So. And then next week. Very exciting. Next week is when I'm supposed to. Assuming all goes according to plan. I know things can. God can change the plan a little bit, you know, can go a little earlier. But next week is when I'm supposed to have the baby time. So it's very exciting. But I'll be out for a lot. I don't know, a few days next week for sure. And who knows after that, probably a couple days. It's going to be very interesting. We're very excited. We've got strollers and already stocked with diapers and things like that around here. So that's great. And I'm looking forward to. Yeah. Being a dad. So we're, we're psyched about that. So CLO will be back in tomorrow. We'll be here together doing the show down here in South Florida. Oh, the Snow White update. I wanted to give this to you. I'm enjoying this. I think we all should enjoy this. Woke because you're watching the collapse of wokeness in pop culture in real time with this thing. Snow White down 66% the second weekend from the first weekend, which was already a flop. It has a 1.6 out of 10 rating on IMDb, which is about as bad as it gets. It's made $143 million globally. It cost 250 million to make, so that doesn't even include include marketing costs. This movie is going to be a loss of hundreds of millions of dollars when all is said and done, I believe for Disney. And maybe it'll change the way they think about their job over there. You know, maybe they'll start just making great entertainment for Americans and for all people all over the world instead of pushing agendas and being annoying. Lesson learned. Perhaps more coming tomorrow. Team Talk to you then.

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[Buck Sexton]

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