Hour 3 - Are College Educated Women Brainwashed?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Episode: Hour 3 - Are College Educated Women Brainwashed?
Release Date: March 19, 2025
Host/Author: Premiere Networks

---

Introduction: A Humorous Start with Personal Anecdotes

The episode kicks off with Clay Travis humorously announcing his impending divorce over a lighthearted disagreement about desserts. This anecdote sets a relatable and entertaining tone for the show.

• Clay Travis [00:00]: “Start off hour number three. It appears that I'm going to have to divorce Laura Travis... because cobbler's a poor man's pie.”

Buck Sexton joins in on the banter, emphasizing the importance of honesty in relationships, even when it stings.

• Buck Sexton [01:20]: “The foundation of a great relationship is speaking the truth when your partner needs to hear it, even if it stings a little sometimes.”

Alec Baldwin and Identity Transformation

Transitioning from personal stories, Clay and Buck delve into the public persona of Alec Baldwin and his wife, Hilaria Baldwin. They critique Hilaria's decision to change her name and adopt a Spanish accent, questioning the authenticity and motivations behind such transformations.

• Clay Travis [04:53]: “She has just decided that she is actually going to be called Hilaria and that she is Spanish and she has just started speaking with a Spanish accent.”

Producer Ali provides context, comparing Hilaria's actions to Madonna's accent change when moving to Europe, suggesting it’s a strategic move to create a new identity.

• Producer Ali [06:59]: “It's sort of like when Madonna changed her accent when she moved to Europe.”

The hosts express sympathy for Alec Baldwin, speculating on the personal toll of such public changes.

• Clay Travis [07:45]: “I actually felt sorry for Alec Baldwin. And I actually wonder whether Alec Baldwin, as he stares into the camera, you can, like, see his soul escaping.”

Main Topic: Are College-Educated Women Brainwashed?

The core of the episode revolves around the political and social perceptions of college-educated white women. Clay introduces data from Steve Kornacki highlighting the differing opinions of Donald Trump among various demographics.

• Clay Travis [10:23]: “Donald Trump. What is a voter's opinion of Donald Trump? White women who went to college have a minus 38 opinion of Donald Trump.”

The statistics reveal a stark divide:

• White men with no degree: +41 positive opinion of Trump.
• White men with college degrees: Approximately neutral (+1).
• White women without college degrees: +14 positive opinion of Trump.
• White women with college degrees: −38 opinion of Trump.

Clay asserts that college-educated white women are the primary supporters of the Democratic Party and exhibit unique behaviors compared to other white demographics.

• Clay Travis [10:44]: “College educated white women as a group... are divergent from every other white person in America in a massive way.”

Buck concurs, suggesting that societal pressures and cultural influences have led college-educated women to make choices that may not align with traditional roles.

• Buck Sexton [13:03]: “College educated white women... tend to think that everything should be delayed for a career... They have been told, 'Oh, you can do exactly the same path as your male counterparts and there's no difference.'”

Listener Engagement: Calls and Emails

The hosts invite women listeners to share their perspectives, leading to a mix of agreements and counterpoints.

• Lois from Raleigh [20:49]: “I am a college educated woman with a master's degree. I love Trump...”

• Katie from Texas A&M [22:42]: “Many of my childhood friends turned extremely liberal while in college... Their need to feel morally superior is unmatched.”

Producer Ali introduces another viewpoint challenging the generalizations made by Clay and Buck.

• Producer Ali [27:53]: “I think they're spoiled brats... These ladies... they're entitled. No, you're not.”

Social Media and Emotional Influence

The discussion shifts to the impact of social media on college-educated women, emphasizing how platforms amplify emotional responses and advocacy for social causes.

• Buck Sexton [24:29]: “The emotional blackmail that we are all put through in college by the woke machinery is particularly effective on women.”

• Clay Travis [32:02]: “Women are more tuned [to social media negativity]. What would Trump have been like in a non-social media era?”

Gender Roles and Societal Expectations

In response to listeners' calls, the hosts explore the evolving gender roles and the emasculation of men, attributing part of the societal friction to these shifts.

• Christine from Cape Cod [34:51]: “Boys have been totally emasculated as well as men... Trump is a real man, I think is looked upon as that.”

Buck and Clay reflect on how modern societal expectations have muddled traditional masculinity and femininity.

• Buck Sexton [36:44]: “They masculinize the women... and men are being told to act more like women. It's part of the whole gender confusion in this country.”

Conclusion: Reflection and Final Thoughts

Clay and Buck wrap up the episode by reiterating the importance of addressing these generational and educational divides. They encourage listeners to participate in future discussions and engage with the topics presented.

• Clay Travis [37:13]: “Great emails, great calls. We'll be back with all of you tomorrow. NCAA Tournament. Get your picks in. Let's have some fun.”

The episode concludes with promotional segments for sponsors and upcoming shows, maintaining the show's blend of serious discussion and light-hearted engagement.

---

Key Takeaways:

1. Political Divide: There is a significant political divide among white women based on their educational background, with college-educated white women predominantly opposing Donald Trump.

2. Social Media Influence: Social media plays a crucial role in shaping the opinions and emotional responses of college-educated women, often pushing them towards liberal ideologies and social causes.

3. Gender Roles: The hosts highlight concerns about the shifting gender roles, where traditional masculinity is being undermined, leading to societal confusion and friction.

4. Listener Diversity: The episode showcases a range of perspectives from listeners, illustrating that while trends exist, individual experiences and opinions vary widely.

5. Cultural Commentary: Clay and Buck provide a critical analysis of contemporary cultural and political trends, questioning the authenticity and motivations behind certain societal changes.

---

Notable Quotes:

• Clay Travis [10:23]: “White women who went to college, plus minus 38 opinion of Donald Trump.”

• Buck Sexton [13:03]: “Women have been told, 'Oh, you can do exactly the same path as your male counterparts and there's no difference.'”

• Christine from Cape Cod [34:51]: “Trump is a real man, I think is looked upon as that.”

---

This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delves deep into the sociopolitical dynamics surrounding college-educated white women, examining the interplay between education, gender roles, and political affiliations. Through engaging conversations, listener interactions, and incisive commentary, Clay and Buck navigate the complexities of modern American society, offering listeners both laughter and food for thought.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

Famous Smoke's been offering the best selection of premium cigars at the best prices for 85 years. And somehow they're still the best kept secret, family owned and stocked with millions of cigars, all delivered fast and fresh to your door. Go online to famous smoke.com and use code CLAY. For 20 bucks off your order of 99 or more, get your favorite brands like Fuente, Romeo, Monte Cristo and Cohiba. Or try something new. Get the best cigars at better prices than your local shop. Famous smoke.com promo code clay. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck, I got some sad news. Start off hour number three. It appears that I'm going to have to divorce Laura Travis. Because when I just went downstairs, she said, and I quote, I think Buck's right as well as that caller. Cobbler is probably just a poor man's pie. And you think, you know someone been married for some odd years, amazing. And I go downstairs just to try to get my NCAA tournament bracket. I'm just sitting there filling it out, minding my own business. Laura Travis walks in to the kitchen and says that cobbler's a poor man's pie. So again, it's going to be sad. Divorce, I'm told, is awful. Sometimes you have to stand up for things like pie.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, I just got to tell you, the foundation of a great relationship is speaking the truth when your partner needs to hear it, even if it stings a little sometimes. So Laura is just doing you a favor on this cobbler issue. And I'm glad that everyone else out there knows the truth, which is that cobbler is just poor man's pie. That's okay, That's. Oh, that. That doesn't mean it doesn't taste good. I'm not saying it doesn't taste good. It's just we gotta have. This is not nom. There are rules, you know, we've gotta have a ranking of things.

[Clay Travis]

I am gonna continue to fight for cobbler to the end of my existence. And all of the calumnies, all of the outrageous assaults in Shakespearean terms, the slings and arrows of derision, will not stand. And I am going to continue to fight the good fight. And I'm filling out my NCAA tournament bracket, by the way, as we are simultaneously continuing it.

[Buck Sexton]

Have you scoped out my bracket at all? Like, are you feeling.

[Clay Travis]

I didn't want to be fair. I didn't want to be influenced and see. Oh, but choices Buck made. I can score by going opposite directions. I am 100% only making choices based on looking at this.

[Buck Sexton]

I just wanted to know and get you on the record now if you are wildly overconfident based upon my bracket, I wanted us to get that out right now so that if by some miracle I actually win this thing, we will get. Ha. We will get to make even more fun of you at the end of this process.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, I think the great thing about the bracket as again, the NCAA tournament tips off tomorrow and I'm going to apologize for myself in advance because I will probably screw up a ton of things because I will doing this show and simultaneously watching college basketball on both Thursday and Friday. So I will not.

[Buck Sexton]

So I will keep. I will keep us on the. On the tracks. Don't worry.

[Clay Travis]

So if I'm totally blowing it even more so than normal tomorrow, it's going to be because I'm trying to keep my eyes on this. The great thing about the NCAA tournament is, and many of you out there who are part of bracket challenges will be able to attest to this, is very often the people who win these bracket challenges are not in any way actually paying attention to college basketball at all on a regular basis, which is what makes it in some ways even more fun because there isn't necessarily a high correlation between college basketball experts who are going to post. I mean, legitimately, all they do is cover college basketball for ESPN or Fox or CBS or NBC or whoever it is sports companies out there, you can beat them without having spent hardly any time at all on it. So I do think that that is really pretty incredible. And one of the fun things about the bracket challenge in general is Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

Hedging a little bit here. Is this a little hedging, I notice on the bracket? Have you picked the team, the team that you think is.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I know your wife, who I hope has the good enough sense to like cobbler more than pie because she was raised in the South. Have you asked Carrie? We may have a real split opinion here in couples.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, I think you know this very clearly or without even asking my gator loving wife. Of course I have to go with Florida to win the whole thing because I want to stay married.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, well, I picked Florida, too. So maybe I need to change for our bracket challenge because the challenge on this is if we both pick the same team. The way this works is it could come down to, like, who wins a Sweet 16 matchup before all is said and done. So I do think that while we're talking about wives, we got to play this Alec Baldwin clip.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

You shared with me last night. If you guys have not seen this. So this is one of the great untold stories. Producer Ali, if she's in there, can you pull up your mic? I want to get your take. Because they live in New York City. So Alec Baldwin, I don't know, this is like wife number three or four for him. And they have, I think it's like seven kids. And they have a reality television show. So he married this girl Hillary. Hillary grew up, I believe, in like, New Jersey, right?

[Buck Sexton]

Massachusetts, outside of Houston.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. Hillary grew up. Hillary grew up in Massachusetts. She has just decided that she is actually going to be called Hilaria and that she is Spanish and she has just started speaking with a Spanish accent. This happens all the time. And it's as if no one is going to point out. I mean, this like, how do you marry a truly crazy chick? Ali, am I wrong on this, that she is. She is grown up. You're from Massachusetts. To my knowledge, you have never come on this show and started talking like you're Spanish and you haven't changed your name to a Spanish variation of Alice. What is going on here? Am I crazy or is this chick crazy even by crazy chick standards?

[Producer Ali]

Well, first of all, it's not a new thing. This has been, she's been doing this for a while, so it's not new. And I think she met someone, she.

[Clay Travis]

Married someone and just wanted to create.

[Producer Ali]

An identity for herself, and that's what this was.

[Clay Travis]

But you can't pretend that you are European, like out of nowhere and start changing your name and speaking with an accent when you grew up in Massachusetts. Like, if I think about the difference is she got called on it. Ok, but because she's a public figure, if tomorrow I came on the show and I just started talking with a Cuban accent and I suddenly claimed that I had some sort of Cuban ancestry and that was why I had to be called, you know, Ricardo now instead of Richard, Clay, Travis. And you would reg. All of you out there listening would be like, yeah, this is super weird. I think Clay may have gone crazy.

[Producer Ali]

It's sort of like when Madonna changed her accent when she moved to Europe.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, but, yeah, that's weird. I agree. But this is just a normal girl from Massachusetts marries Alec Baldwin. Here's the question, you guys, I bet have seen and heard this clip. They're doing some sort of red carpet walk and you need to watch it. But this is what it sounded like, and I can't believe it, but I actually Felt sorry for Alec Baldwin. And. And I actually wonder whether Alec Baldwin, as he stares into the camera, you can, like, see his soul escaping. Every man who has been married to an awful woman has had this experience. I would imagine at some point in time, I wouldn't know because I'm married to a great woman, with the exception of her being 100% wrong about cobbler.

[Buck Sexton]

But.

[Clay Travis]

But listen to this clip of Alec Baldwin and Hilaria Baldwin from Spain. Slash, Massachusetts, the hilarious show.

[Buck Sexton]

No, no, I. I think we're gonna see. You know, it's. We're gonna see how it feels to have it be out there. It's gonna be great. This. You're a winner. Oh, my God. When I'm talking, you're not talking. No, when I'm talking, you're not talking. This is why. Yes. We'll have to, like, just cut him out of the show.

[Clay Travis]

It keeps going. And you need to see Alec Baldwin's face, Buck. I don't know how many red carpets you've walked. I've walked a few. First of all, I can't even imagine what the reaction would be if Alec Baldwin cut his wife off like that and said, you just need to pretend she's not here. I mean, he would be totally canceled over this. But for the men out there, I didn't think it was possible. I watched this, Buck, and I actually felt sorry for Alec Baldwin. You can hear a little bit of that weird accent that she's trying. And again, she says that her name is now Hilaria, even though she's Hillary from Boston. This is weird. Like, what is going on here?

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know, man. How do we even get on this? Like, where did.

[Clay Travis]

Because we're talking about my wife and the fact that I'm gonna have to get divorced because she said that pie is a poor man's. That cobbler is a poor man's pie.

[Buck Sexton]

I will say this. You having. I do think I could. And maybe I'm wrong about this, but I was single for a long time in New York City, which is like the jungle of single life. Like, it is. It is a rough place. I think I could do a whole show, a whole podcast on, like, relationships and red flags from a guy's. From a guy's perspective. Like, I've been. I've been through it all, man. Like, I've seen. I've seen stuff I haven't, you know?

[Clay Travis]

Anyway, well, this ties in with the college educated women thing that I was going to talk about of college educated.

[Buck Sexton]

Speaker two Smooth transition you're making there. I was going to say, can I just put this little bit of advice out there? If somebody in public is not always on your team and your advocate, you have a huge problem.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

There is never any, there is never an excuse, whether it is a spouse, a friend, a colleague. If somebody in public undermines you and you feel that at all, and particularly in a romantic relationship. But if you're ever with, if you're a guy and you're with a gal and she kind of takes shots at you in front of her female friends, anything like that, you, you gotta just, you gotta put the, you gotta honestly, you gotta run, you got to get away from it. It's done. It's not going to work. Because that goes to a very deep seated lack of respect and lack of accountability.

[Clay Travis]

Well, it also ties in, honestly, with what the Kennedy family did to RFK Jr. Which we talked about. It's one thing. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

That's growing your family under the bus, which is just, that just means you have no honor and no character. That's very straightforward.

[Clay Travis]

Speaking of no honor and no character, a lot of college educated women, women are actually in that camp. And I was looking at this. Steve Kornacki. No. Yeah, Steve Kornack, the guy at one of the data gurus. That is it. NBC. I always get these guys, msnbc, msnbc.

[Buck Sexton]

He's, he's actually one of the, one of the smarter and more reasonable people over there.

[Clay Travis]

Well, because he just has to look at data and analyze it as opposed to just saying irrational things. And he said, there's some numbers here and we shared this on social media, but I think we should dive into this because it actually goes a long way towards explaining the world that we're in right now. So I'll give you, for instance, Donald Trump. What is a voter's opinion of Donald Trump? White men with no degree have a plus 41 opinion of Donald Trump. That is white men without college degrees love Donald Trump. White men who went to college, plus one Donald Trump, you know, okay, so white men who went to college, very even, basically, like kind of reflective of the nation. White women with no college degree have a plus 14 positivity of Donald Trump. Listen to this. White women who went to college or got graduate degrees. So college plus minus 38 opinion of Donald Trump. And I'm writing a new book on this, like kind of gender related issues. Buck. One thing that I think is starting to happen and I want to take some calls on this, I want to hear from women, only women, because you know, you and I are morons on a lot of things related to women. So I only want women to react to this. I think a lot of women who went to college, they're getting 60% of all degrees now. There are way more college educated women than there are college educated men. I think that they have been uniquely susceptible to capture in a social media era such that they are way more likely to be responding emotionally because women who went to college are not even similar in any way to ever white women. These are just white women to white men, both who went to college and didn't and to white women who didn't go to college. But this is, I think, one of the big fault lines in America today. The Democrat party, by and large, is almost exclusively the party of college educated white women. And college educated white women are not behaving like almost any other white person on the planet. What's going on here? Why are they the outliers?

[Buck Sexton]

I think they have been largely misled and set up for poor choices by the culture that we currently have. I think that college educated white women in particular tend to think that everything should be delayed for a career. And for some women, that is absolutely a great move for a lot of women, they will end up regretting getting not just a college degree. But remember, you got to add in their women who get advanced, you know, master's degree, PhD. I mean, some women end up being in school until they're 32, 33 years old, and then they turn around and they say, okay, well, now I want to date and find my husband and build a family. Biology is incredibly important and it matters. And it affects life choices in ways. And again, people can. I'm not saying anyone. You know, you can choose your own thing. This is America. It's a free country. Absolutely. But. But women have been told, oh, you can do exactly the same path as your male counterparts and there's no difference. And anyone who tells you otherwise is bad or, you know, a sexist or that's a lie. Yeah, and that's where a lot of this comes from. A lot of women who get married, you know, who don't go to college, tend to get married younger, start families younger, and have a different life perspective. Again, we're speaking in vast generalizations. Please do not call me and say, I have a PhD and five children and I'm happy. I know, okay, but we're talking about that, you know, you and I. That is the one frustration we have is, is to hear from outliers in the audience when we're talking in the most broad and general terms, you know, you know, somebody still getting Aggie. I'm a, I'm a former Navy SEAL and Delta Force member and I love Broadway shows. Okay, but like you're kind of an outlier, you know, like that's not.

[Clay Travis]

It is the number one thing that people love to say. I was joking about it yesterday. But anytime I come on and I say anything, which is true for the nation, right. Average price of a gallon of gas, 285, people feel compelled to tell me, hey, well yesterday in Boston, I just paid 410. Okay, well it's a national number, so it may be more expensive in your neighborhood. Same thing with eggs.

[Buck Sexton]

I love it.

[Clay Travis]

They deluge me. I want to get calls though. Women only. What is going on with college educated women? Why white women in particular? Are they completely off the reservation compared to again, college educated men, Non college educated men and women. What is the story here and what is going on? All right, so we will break all this down. We are going to dive into it. I got a pick for you, Buck. Write this down. This is a winner. I feel really good about this one. NCAA tournament action. This is tomorrow's games, I believe. I'm not sure what day Florida plays, so I could be wrong on that. Here's the pick. You get an automatic win for Johnny Broom. He is the star of Auburn men's basketball. He is one of the two best players in college basketball. If he scores a point, you get a check mark. All right, here are the two that's free from prize picks right now. If you go to prizepix.com use code CLAY. This is an NCAA tournament pick. Walter Clayton Jr. I love this guy's game. Florida Gator guard, stud playmaker. He is going to make in the first round more than two and a half threes. More than two and a half three point baskets. And then for Tennessee. I know Tennessee plays tomorrow night. Jordan Ganey more than one and a half three pointers. He's starting to play really, really well. I watched by the way Walter Clayton and Jordan Ganey play. I was with my 10 year old, went to the game on Sunday here in Nashville. This is a Florida Gator, Auburn Tiger, University of Tennessee three way winner. If I'm right on this, it pays out at a little bit over four to one at price picks. Okay, Jordan Ganey more than one and a half three pointers. Walter Clayton Jr. More than two and a half threes. Johnny Broom to score one point. SEC special opening round NCAA tournaments. Prizepix.com youm can play in 40 states, California, Texas, Georgia. Prizepix.com Code Clay. You get 50 bucks for playing five dollars. And this one, I'm telling you, is going to pay at 4 to 1. That's prizepix.com code clay. You know them as conservative radio hosts. Now just get to know them as guys on the Sunday Hang podcast with Clay and Buck. Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Sure enough, Clay. Sure enough. I said, I said, please don't, don't tell. No, I'm just kidding. This doesn't really fall into the category, but we get people who are like, well, you're speaking in generalizations and I'm a break in that generalization. Vip Linda writes, I'm a college educated white woman with a master's degree. I think it is more about being brainwashed with my body, my choice and abortion. I actually think Linda is correct here, that that's a big that the, the abortion and women's rights quote unquote component of this. You get, you get inundated with that stuff in four years of college. I mean it is Clay. I have talked about this. I had to give people. I was an ra. I know, make fun of me. I had to give people dental dams. I did not know what that was. And I was from New York City. Like I was pretty, you know, advanced in my socialization.

[Clay Travis]

We got to unpack this. This is Buck Sexton, dental dam distributor is not what I expected this segment to go into.

[Buck Sexton]

Pure Talk. Cellular service is something that both of our families rely on. Clay's and mine. I have Pure Talk as my main phone. Switch to Pure Talk and save all kinds of money this year while not sacrificing any cell phone quality. For just 25 bucks a month, you can get unlimited talk text, five gigs of data on America's most dependable 5G network. That kind of deal allows the average sized family of four to save more than $1,000 a year when they switch to Pure Talk. And you sacrifice nothing on quality. Pure Talk also has the best customer service team anywhere. The switch is hassle free. It's done in about 10 minutes. I did it really easy. You keep your phone and your number. Dial pound two five zero and say our names as your keywords, Clay and Buck. So from your current phone, dial pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck and you'll save an additional 50% off your first month. Dial that pound pound 250 from your phone say Clay and Buck for Pure Talk.

[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show sharing this data from Steve Kornacki. And I was just laying it out. College educated white women, they hate Trump. Um, they're the only group of white voters that hates Trump. In fact, he has a positive review of everybody else. And the difference between white men with no college degree and white women with college degrees has probably never been more expansive. Huge difference. White women with college degrees hate Elon, they hate Doge, they hate the Republican Party, they love Zelensky, and they also, Buck, love dei. So basically, white women with college degrees as a group, I know there are many white women with college degrees that are listening to us right now are divergent from every other white person in America in a massive way. White men with college degrees are not similar to white women with college degrees. And certainly white women and men without college degrees are not similar at all either. A bunch of people want to weigh in. Um, and let's start with Lois in Raleigh, North Carolina. What do you think is to explain this?

[Producer Ali]

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I am an college educated woman with a master's degree in education Administration. I worked until 39, got married, and had my son. I love Trump. And I think maybe some of these women, because I know some are very angry, maybe they're even kind of intimidating. And so they kind of put people off a little. I don't know. But that's been my experience. So. But I love Trump and I'm a college educated woman and white.

[Buck Sexton]

Right. Well, we know, we know there are a lot of, we know there are a lot of you out there. I'm curious. I mean, you say, did you have peers, you know, women who are in your program, let's say your master's program, like, what, what has their experience been? Because you said, I think you got married at 39, you had a kid, you know, it all worked out for you, Right? But do you have a lot of people from your master's program who maybe never were able to start a family or feel like they spent too much time in the library or whatever? I'm curious what your general conception or perception is.

[Producer Ali]

Well, I guess my perception is I felt they, they sort of gave this go away. I'm, I'm strong, I'm tough, I'm not vulnerable, that type of thing.

[Buck Sexton]

Do you think that was because they were told that they should compete with men in the workplace in a way that was unhealthy? I mean, what's your analysis of it?

[Producer Ali]

Oh, I think it's unhealthy because I wanted to be married and have a child and be a college educated woman. I wanted to have all of that and I did. I just had to wait.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, I've got a good email here. Thank you for the call. By the way, I can mention my wife has double graduate degrees and voted for Trump. So obviously there are a lot of people out there in that camp.

[Buck Sexton]

But, but on the, on the outlier thing, you know, Mark Zuckerberg didn't finish college and is one of the richest people on the planet. That doesn't mean that like people shouldn't get an education. Right? Like it's just, you know, it doesn't. Or that you shouldn't finish college if you think that's going to be good for you.

[Clay Travis]

You know, the exception is not the rule. The outlier typically is an outlier for a reason. Good email here from Katie. She says howdy from San Antonio, college educated Giga Maggies. I mean, she's a Texas A and M grad. I'm a white woman here, voted for Trump. And what I'm interested in is why you think women, not what you did, but why you think these numbers do reflect the truth. There are a lot of people who disagree with you. Here's her explanation. Many of my childhood friends turned extremely liberal while in college. Then they moved into urban suburban areas around Dallas, Austin and Houston. All of my white college educated liberal friends are extremely vocal on social media about the same issues. Abortion, the Alphabet crew nonsense, and above all, pandering to the race, social causes like blm. It's like they fall all over each other to show who is the most apologetic for being white and who adopts the most pets from their local shelter. Their need to feel morally superior is unmatched. I think that's a really great email that actually makes a lot of sense.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. Who? High five to who? Who was the author of that one?

[Clay Travis]

VIP Katie Giga Maggies. Good luck to Texas A and M in the tournament. Based on this, she, she also said, by the way, Texas A and M, one of the exceptions, mostly conservative school, especially compared to that orange school in Austin taking a little bit of a shot at University of Texas. But it is interesting that it's like for college educated women, they, their social stature is a competition to see who can appear the most emotionally empathetic and social media may well drive it.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that the, the emotional blackmail that we are all put through in college by the woke machinery is Particularly effective on women. I just think that again, that doesn't mean that all women succumb to it. It just means that I think that women are more likely because they're more. Look, can we can speak about these things honestly, right? Women tend to be more empathetic. Women tend to be more in touch with their feelings, you know, in general. Okay, I need some woman to call. Like I could bench press you, Buck. Like I'm sure you can. But generally speaking, women are more. Went full macho man, Randy Savage.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, that's, that's the, that's the lesbian woman from, from the Democrat party that picked Tim Walls as the, the man to appeal to men.

[Buck Sexton]

You get what I'm, you get what I'm putting down. But I think that women want to be, and I'm talking about college women in college who are of that age, obviously they want to be empathetic, they want to be sympathetic, they want to do what they can for other people. And they are told that to be good people, to be good people, you have to identify with these causes. And clay, a perfect example of this. Zelensky. The college educated women love little Zelensky. Give me more money. I am here for Donald Trump in my T shirt. Like the whole thing, very strange. Bizarre, bizarre when you think about this also, what are these college educated women know about what it means to be somewhere where you could get blown up by an IED or shot by a sniper rifle, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And yet they're the ones that are so all in on this Ukraine war situation. Like, think about this for a second. The guys who has fought, who has fought a lot of Americans war. Now I have friends who come from very well off backgrounds who were in the army and in the Marines too. So I'm not, I'm not saying again, we're speaking generalities here, ok? Working class men are the ones who fight America's wars.

[Clay Travis]

Rich man's war, poor man's fight has been a phrase for hundreds of years and it's true across the world.

[Buck Sexton]

It is, you know, 18 year olds from working class backgrounds who are the ones signing up fighting our wars. I don't think anybody would find this a controversial statement. It is the truth and it's interesting that they like Trump, the guy who's trying to end the war. And white college educated women are the ones who are like, Slava, Ukraine, like, fight till the very end. The guys know that this stuff is nasty and you want to end it as fast as possible. This is not a video game.

[Clay Travis]

Mary in San Marcos, Texas, what's your theory on what's going on here?

[Producer Ali]

I think they're spoiled brats. I think they think they're enabled and they think that they're better and they think that they're going to do whatever they think they want to do. They are using the female card. I'm in my 60s and it took me a while to get my degree, but I worked my butt off to get my degree, literally because we didn't have federal loans then, we had to pay it as we went. But I very much earned my degree. I am a degree from Texas A and M Corpus Christi, Texas, but I am a teacher. I retired after 25 years, but before that I was a mechanic in an oil refinery. I was a mechanic in Abbott Laboratories medical manufacturing system. As I said, I worked my butt off. And these ladies that are doing this, they couldn't be bothered by dirtying their hands doing menial work, waitressing or working in the kitchen or working in some kind of hands on product. They're little, you know, little miss tootsies doing what they want to do. Because I'm a female and I can do this and you know, you have to hire me because I'm entitled. No, you're not.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you for the call. I love it. Thank you for the call. I do think there's a generational divide here, right? Because a lot of women college graduates are recent women college graduates, meaning in the last 20 or 30 years as now, women get way more college degrees. Question for you, Buck. Are women, because of social media, far more likely to be susceptible to what their friends do and say than men are? Like, I don't know about you, but I love that, really.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay and I. Clay and I hear experts on women. I just think it's kind of funny. Yes, I'm just having, I'm just having a go at you. Yes, I think that you are correct. I think that the. I see this all the time. Can I just tell you something? You know, I have, I still have some friends who are single and I, and I love hearing about, you know, their story. It's great to hear their stories. Right. It's, it's like hearing about people who are out there in the jungle trying to find the tiger still, you know, like I'm, I'm safe at home single.

[Clay Travis]

You got a brother?

[Buck Sexton]

I got an older brother who's, who's a fantastic guy and a very bachelor. A great catch. Just throwing it out there. Great catch. Mason, my older brother and he's still single. But, you know, I've got a bunch of friends down here as well who are all single guys. And Clay, the number of women who think it's really appealing to tell guys that their great life. Life aspiration is to travel is insane to me. This is, this is entirely a product of Instagram culture and getting the likes. And I'm in Tulum and I'm in Barcelona and I'm in all these places and all my friends think I'm living this great life. Traveling is a thing you do once in a while to do a reset from your actual life and yeah, sound.

[Clay Travis]

Like an Instagram influencer chick right now. I kind of think they're right. I love to travel. I want to go everywhere. That's what I want to do. No, I want to just travel all over the place. You got to see me, like, on the edge of a cliff taking a selfie. Like, look at the sea in the background.

[Buck Sexton]

We need Dr. Laura. Where's Dr. Laura? We need her to weigh in on this.

[Clay Travis]

I, I, But I do think that, first of all, I have no idea what my friends say on social media. Like, I use social media.

[Buck Sexton]

You were trying to find, See, you found, you found a great woman and built a beautiful family in a real.

[Clay Travis]

World where you meet face to face. Like in law school. Like most people used to meet face to face. But so I, the whole dating on the Internet thing was like, predates me so back.

[Buck Sexton]

But I'm saying if you, if you met a girl in I'm, you know, not, not Laura, if you had met somebody before you met Laura and you said, hey, like, you know, what do you want to do? It's like, I just want to travel. Now you think that's a, you think that? Not, not. I want to build a family.

[Clay Travis]

I like to travel. Now what I wanted to hear, you're a rich man.

[Buck Sexton]

You don't count. Now, I'm talking about when you were single.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, yeah. No, what I wanted to hear was I want to have a ton of kids. Yeah, that's what I would want to hear now. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

You agree with me, your whole I love to travel thing, Clay. Yeah. Like, because you're, you know, I'm already.

[Clay Travis]

Around on Clay Force One.

[Buck Sexton]

Totally different.

[Clay Travis]

But, but I do think the thing that I wanted to hear was, hey, I want to have a bunch of kids. And that's what had appeal to me. And if you're, I guess I'm thinking like 25 year olds. If you're like 35 and you meet somebody and like what do you want to do with your life? Like I want to travel. That's a little bit weird. There's a lot of that.

[Buck Sexton]

This is what I'm telling you. There are a lot of women in their 30s who their aspiration is their life aspiration, again as they're presenting it on social media and on dating apps or whatever is I want to travel. And I just think that this is, this mindset of this, the self actualization through selfies is really damaging.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's totally true. Here's another question for you. Do you think women are more impacted by negativity on social media? Like in other words, anything that we post, if you want to go into the mentions, you can find five or six people that are like kill yourself, I hope you die. Right? I mean that is very common on social media, particularly Twitter compared to Instagram. How much of this is just a fear of anybody disagreeing with them in a desperate way? Women are far more socially savvy than men are. Like I don't know when I'm getting the cold shoulder, I don't notice because I'm not, I'm not savvy enough to notice it in many respects. And I do think women are more, far more tuned. And I wonder, my thought on this is what would Trump have been like in a non social media era?

[Buck Sexton]

We'll come back, let's come back to this. Okay, let's come back to those two questions and also we'll get some of your calls to close us out. We're talking about ladies out there and I'm going to say something right now. A lot of the guys, you know you're two way people and that's great. I'm a two way guy. But force escalation is something that's great for you to have to consider, right? Non lethal options. And a lot of ladies, including my wife, prefer the non lethal as their go to if they have to defend themselves. And this is where Sabre comes in. Sabre has been doing this for over 50 years. You can find their products@sabre radio.com it's very specific websites. Let me give it to you again. S A B r e sabre radio.com their products, things like pepper spray, their pepper ball launcher. Easy to use and so effective if you're looking in the non lethal range. Sabre is your go to. They've safeguarded hundreds of thousands of Americans over the decades they've been in business. Family owned company, they make the best in class. There are other guys out there that are competitors that honestly just can't compete because Sabers products are the best. I've tried all the different pepper launchers. Sabre makes the best one and that creates a six foot pepper cloud upon impact causing intense sensory irritation. Find dozens of incredible home defense and self defense products that Sabre makes at their website, saber radio.com say 15% when you go today or just call this number 844-824-SAFE, 844-824SAFE.

[Clay Travis]

Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are fired up here on this topic, as are so many of you. You're calling in, you're writing in all over the place. We have is this a call? Christine and Cape Cod. Christine and Cape Cod. What's going on?

[Producer Ali]

Hi. Well, I am, I have two children in their 20s. I raised them in affluent Newton, Massachusetts. I have a master's degree, two successful companies, although I'm a Republican, all of my best friends that I raised my children with crazy liberals. And to the point of where what I think is going on and what I saw in our community is that boys have been totally emasculated as well as men. And for the most part, most of the men in our community were raised to be very effeminate, to not be aggressive, to not be real men, to not be do sexual advances for concern over being aggressive or for it to be looked at as, you know, rapists or whatever. And so I think young boys are not, are told not to be that way. And so when all these women are confronted with a real man who is aggressive, who is all, you know, playing outside and wrestling and all of that, they are like aghast. Boys shouldn't be that way. Men shouldn't be that way. So Trump is a real man, I think is looked upon as that. And so I think in and certainly like my daughter who is in Cambridge and went to school in Boston, all of the men were very effeminate. So you have all of these women who, and the women in my community, we were all lucky enough to raise our children at home. So they were leading very feminine roles within their households, how, you know, staying home, taking care of their kids, all of that. Yet we were telling our kids to not be that way. Don't assume those roles, girl. You, you know, get that abortion if you want that abortion. And boys don't be, don't wrestle, don't do that.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, they masculinize the women, actually, the young women are being told to act more like men and men are being told to act more like women. It's part of the whole gender confusion in this country. Great call. Great call. Thank you so much. Let me just say for those of you because I think we have like every line right now lit up. We obviously we're at the end of the show. So Clay and I would love it if you would whatever you want to say, tell us on Talkback. We will definitely hear it. We get all of the talkbacks. We get them sent to us in email so we can hear them or read the transcript and we'll play some of them tomorrow because we're at time.

[Clay Travis]

Great idea. Yes. If you are still waiting, give us the talk back on the iHeart app and we will play a bunch of these tomorrow. Great emails, great calls. We'll be back with all of you tomorrow. NCAA Tournament. Get your picks in. Let's have some fun. Famous Smoke's been offering the best selection of premium cigars at the best prices for 85 years. And somehow they're still the best kept secret, family owned and stocked with millions of cigars, all delivered fast and fresh to your door. Go online to famoussmoke.com and use code CLAY. For 20 bucks off your order of $99 or more, get your favorite brands like Fuente, Romeo, Monte Cristo and Cohiba. Or try something new. Get the best cigars at better prices than your local shop, famousmoke. Com Promo code Clay.