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Carol Markowitz
This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human
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Newt Gingrich
on New Troy Podcast. We're celebrating America's 250th birthday and I asked my guests how they're spending their 4th of July. Brett Baer.
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Buck Sexton
I will be working.
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Newt Gingrich
I'll be in Washington because it's a big, big day. Jared Isaacman.
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Carol Markowitz
I plan to be flying in an F5 fighter jet painted in Freedom 250 colors, along with four other fighter jets
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Buck Sexton
flying over the nation's capital.
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Newt Gingrich
Listen to New world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Buck Sexton
Third hour of play and Buck kicks off now. Everybody, thank you so much for being here and we appreciate very much getting to hang out with you as we are heading into our 250th, a Fourth of July celebration, some people are saying the most amazing Fourth of July celebration in 250 years, in 1776 itself, actually. I just finished a biography of Ethan Allen, which honestly, I'll just tell you this. I picked this up. It was one of these things where I was at a, it was actually at a bookstore in Savannah, Georgia, and got it there and it was a hardback and it looked, you know, it looked like a pretty, I don't know, I just sort of, it caught my eye and I think it was five bucks instead of the 30 or so that a hardback normally is. Speaking of hardbacks. Manufacturing Delusion, my friends. Manufacturing. You're looking for a book for the holiday. Manufacturing Delusion. You'll read it over the, over the weekend. It's very readable, meant to be so. And I know a lot of you read it. I appreciate that any of you haven't read it. You are missing out. I'm telling you, there's a lot of really cool stuff in here. You will learn about Ivan the Terrible's Oprichniki, which you need to know about. You will learn how people are so crazy or how they're made so crazy that they believe that a man can become a woman for the purposes of athletics or anything else. How does that psychologically happen? Manufacturing Delusion. Go get your copy on Amazon. I haven't talked about it in a while, so I want to give you a little tip for the holiday. Go get your copy and go read it by the pool while you're waiting for those burgers on the grill to cook. And we're just, you know, hanging out on the, on the veranda or the porch or whatever, the beach. Manufacturing Delusion. I think you really like everyone who's read it has Liked it. I don't know what the scientific basis is for me to say that, but I'm pretty sure that's true. It's very good book. So with all of. Oh, I was talking about books. I read the Ethan Allen book. Ethan Allen is an interesting guy. I wouldn't say. I would be like a top choice for you. I'm just. I'm honest with you about this stuff. Like, there's some books and I've recommended. I don't know, I think I've recommended Shadow Divers at this point to probably a couple dozen people. And I'm just like, you're gonna love it. It's super readable. It's a great story. History guy stuff. Submarines, you know, it's a. That's a great. A great book.
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Caller or Guest
So I.
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Buck Sexton
There are the books that I would recommend to anybody, knowing they'll like it. There are some that are a little more specific, you know, genre specific to certain people. I'll say, I think you would like. I feel like I'm pretty good at that. And then when you're picking a biography, you have to care about that historical figure or else it really. I think it's hard for the biography to. No matter how well written it is or how well researched it is, I think it's hard to really speak. You know, Ethan Allen was interesting, but not. And a lot of people like. You mean the guy that sells the, you know, the, like overpriced ottomans and couches or whatever?
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Caller or Guest
No.
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Buck Sexton
Well, it is. I mean, I guess it is that guy technically, but he's not actually selling them. But I'm. I started a book on Samuel Adams in preparation. I'll have it done by the end of the holiday, the Fourth of July holiday. This kind of. My Fourth of July book. Because I've already read Manufacturing Delusion, which you should all have your. You should all have your copies of. But I'm gonna. I'm reading this book on Samuel Adams. It's interesting. He gets. He's thought of as the beer guy. So I've really picked two historical figures for my reading list for the 4th of July, 250th.
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Carol Markowitz
Who.
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Buck Sexton
Who have. Who have become essentially American icons of commercialism, really. Ethan Allen, the furniture store, and Sam Adams, the beer guy. His dad was a very successful brewer.
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Caller or Guest
He.
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Buck Sexton
He was less so, but Sam Adams, interesting. He's.
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Caller or Guest
He.
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Buck Sexton
I think he should get more. More play more cred. More attention than he does. I really think the beer thing is just completely overshadowed. Everyone just thinks of him as the beer Guy when he was really important in the American Revolution, he was really important in our. In our quest for independence. And while I did tell you that England just defeated, or did I tell. I don't think I told everybody. England just defeated the Democratic Republic of the Congo 2 to 1. Sir Harry Kane, if he's not knighted, he will soon be, but I think he has been knighted. Sir Harry Kane came through with an incredible second goal. America is playing. Tonight. We are playing Bosnia and Herzegovina or Herzegovina, people. I hear people say it both ways, but Bosnia and the other place. I think America is going to win this one. I think America is going to win this one. And I can say that with considerable confidence because I did not, in fact, get blown out of the water yet on my England is going to win the whole World cup bet. They're smart money, though, honestly, at this point, if you've been watching this stuff at all, I know a lot of you don't care, but, you know, whatever. France, France is too good. France is a super team. France is like the Lakers with, with Kobe and Shaq in basketball at their absolute peak. France or Jordan and Pippin at their peak. France is. Is the. The Patriots with Tom Brady and, well, anyone, basically, because, you know, he could win with whoever. They're just abs. They're on another level, I think. So it's unfortunate that I. But I didn't want to pick. I'm going to pick now. Some of you, the historians in the audience would say Lafayette, France, they were coming up into our 250th. They were on the right side of that one. And that's, you know, that would be a fair point. That would be a fair point. Lafayette is a historical figure that I think should also get more. There are more attention, more play. And I think the biographer that wrote the Ethan Allen biography that I'm reading also did a Lafayette biography, or that might be a guy I might be confusing with somebody else. But, yeah, the French were on the right side of it in 1776. In fact, we couldn't have won without them. And on Samuel Adams, as I'm reflecting on the 250th, it is. It is very apparent. The British, you know, the British military and, you know, governor and, and all, all the officials in charge, they hated Sam Adams. I mean, Sam Adams, they hated this guy, first cousin of John Adams, the vice president and future second president of the United States. But man, Sam Adams was the one that. And as you know, the, the ride to Lexington and Concord and Paul Revere, he Had to tell Sam Adams was going, they were coming. They were coming for him. And the real their plan was they wanted to hang him. But they also had waited for a long time because they realized that things were really tough that in 17. 1774, 1775, Boston leading the Boston Tea Party. So anyway, the same Adams thing's been really interesting. I've also got the American Revolution by Gordon Wood that is up next for me, which is. I probably should have. That is the. I think that is to the American Revolution what a lot of people would say almost the. What is a Shelby Foot? And he do the really magisterial Where's Clay? The magisterial Civil War treatment. I think he's the guy that a lot of people think of as the. Yeah, no, I know he wrote about the Civil War. I'm saying I think that's one of the most well known and celebrated histories of the Civil War from Shelby Foote. But Gordon Wood on the American Revolution. And I'll tell you this, Gordon Wood did not go Easy on the 1619 Project. Gordon Wood was. And I think he's a professor at Brown. Is that right, guys? But he was willing to just say 1619 Project as a, as a. Say whatever you want about the politics of why the New York Times wanted to do that and everything else. Just As a historian, 1619 Project is trash. Just trash. Gordon Wood was. He didn't put it in those terms, but he was one of the voices who was willing to just say, yeah, they didn't, they didn't get. They didn't get the history right. New York Times 1619 Project did not get the, the history right. And I think that that's important for people to, to know and to hear from an eminent, an eminent historian also, by the way, I did the audio of my book of Manufacturing Delusion. I am I narrated or I know I Is that. What do you call it when you read your own book? Yeah, I am the voice of the audiobook. So I think that's some of you hopefully a selling point. So you can just listen to me do the book on. On tape, so to speak, and you can go. But download the audio. So great. That's the thing. You can be cooking those burgers, preparing safely your fireworks safely, safety first. And listening to Manufacturing Delusion on the audiobook side of things. And I think that you will greatly, you will greatly enjoy that and you will learn some very cool stuff and you will be able to call in and write it and be like, wow, Buck, you weren't Lying. I've learned so much. But yeah, the American Revolution with Gordon Wood. That is next up on. So as you can tell, I'm kind of going on a. For the 250th, I've been going on a revolutionary history
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Caller or Guest
trip.
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Buck Sexton
And I, in a sense, I started with the Crucible of War by Fred Anderson, which is a history of the French and Indian War, which is a way more important and interesting conflict. Fortunately, you have Last of the Mohicans, which is a. An A plus movie. An A plus movie still hold. And it holds up really, really well, all of it. I mean, it's supposed to take place in basically the Hudson Valley, Adirondacks. It's filmed pretty much all in North Carolina. Put that aside. It's a great movie and that's the only really good French and Indian war movie that I can think of. But to understand this is so often the case. To really understand World War II, you have to have a pretty solid understanding of World War I. To really understand the American Revolution, you have to understand the French and Indian War. There's so much about it, for one thing, including George Washington himself. A lot of the colonials got combat training. They, you know, a lot of these colonial militias, a lot of these colonials. And they learned, by the way, from early encounters against the natives. You know, one of the things that Crucible War talks about is in the beginning you would have British officers, for example, were carrying, would carry a saber. And the British infantry were essentially relying on bayonets on their, you know, on their rifles. And he says by the end you had a lot of guys, the guys who knew what was going on, they were carrying tomahawks, carrying tomahawks in their, in their waistband because they understood that after that first volley of fire, if they had to get close quarters, much better to have a tomahawk in your hands than a, than a saber, which is really meant for attacking people from horseback. It's really not a great close quarters weapon, actually, which you, you see some of this play out in Last Mohicans. But Crucible War is very interesting and some of the dynamics also of the British. And this is showed well in Last the Mohicans, the British being very dismissive, like, of course the colonials are going to fight for them against the French. They're like, well, wait a second, you know, what's really, why, what's going on here? What rights do we have? What rights do we not have? Are we allowed to choose our own officers? There's all these different Things that come up. So those would be crucible War is very good. By the way, if you're looking for a. A book to read on French and Indian war, I'm sure a lot of you were telling me the Gordon Wood American Revolution. I have the whole. I think it's three. I'm looking at it right now on my shelf. I think it's three books is the version of it that I have. I haven't started it yet, but everyone says that that's. That's fantastic. But like I said, I'll be done with the Samuel, Samuel Adams. The Samuel Adams one that I'm writing or sorry, writing that I'm reading. The writing is trying a little too hard in my. It won a Pulitzer Prize. It's a female author. I'm forgetting. I. As an author, I shouldn't do this, but I forget authors name. I remember the titles of books. I oftentimes don't remember the author, which is. I probably should stop doing that. But female author. She want to Pulitzer Prize, so good for her. I find that the writing is a little try hard for me. Meaning that it's not that I don't understand it, but I'm like, you know, you could have said this much more easily. That would be my. So it's not a great. I would say not a great biography. I'm going to finish it. I'm going through it pretty quickly. But I just figured for the long weekend coming up, if any of you are looking for something, obviously first you get manufacturing delusion. But if you want something that will celebrate I, by the way, I know a lot of you, a lot of you are going to be, are going to be hitting me with, gosh, who's the. I'm. I'm blanking on his name. He's done 1776 and the John Adams biography. I've read all of those. I read all of the, you know, all the books by. And of course I said this before that I'm David McCullough. I've read all the. David, please, you don't have to tell me. Buck. There's this guy, there's this amazing guy. This is what people tell me, you know what book? You should read the Bible. I got, I got it, okay? I went to Jesuit school for a long time. We did, we did all of the Bible. We did exegesis of the Bible.
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Caller or Guest
We.
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Buck Sexton
I got. You don't have to tell me to read the Bible and you don't have to tell me to read David McCullough. I've got that covered.
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Caller or Guest
Great.
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Buck Sexton
By the way. No, no, no. Shade at Dave. Great Books to read. But yeah, no, that one, that one I've covered. If you have a more unique wreck that you think for the revolutionary period, some of you gonna be wise apples be like, you know, book, I think you should read book the Bible. I know, I know, I know. I've read it. I've got it. Thank you covered. But I think those, those are some good I need to get you, you know what the I guess I'm giving you my best wreck is actually the French and Indian war book. I think the Fred Andersen book Crucible of War is better than either of the biographies, either the Ethan Allen or the Samuel Adams biography that I'm currently reading. So yeah, I got to get some, I got to get a better Gordon. The Gordon Wood. I think American Revolution will probably be my favorite but we will get to that and I need to get to this live read. There's a lot to do this summer. If you're upping your energy game to make the most of it, take advantage of supplements from a company we discovered a few years ago, Chalk. Chalk is spelled with a Q as in C H O q. Their supplements are formulated with natural ingredients to provide men and women with more energy throughout the day. I've been, I've incorporated chalk into my own personal health journey and have more energy and better workouts and sharper focus at work, too. Their products were a big part of that equation. You can do the same. Start with Chalk's male vitality stack. The leading ingredient has been found in research studies to increase testosterone levels by 20% within three months. For guys, that is critical as a prime source of your energy. Sign up today@chalk.com choq.com use my name Buck and get a 99 value bonus product, their lit powder, which is awesome for exercising. That's chalk choq.com promo code buck for the lit powder. Great for energy. Preset your pals playing Buck on the Iheart app.
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Newt Gingrich
This is Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the House and a proud American citizen. I'm celebrating America's 250th birthday on my podcast New World with 15 special episodes. And I've got some great guests. Walter Isaacson, Jonathan Turley, Brett Baer.
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Buck Sexton
I will be working because it's a big, big day. I'll be in Washington and have all
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Newt Gingrich
kinds of coverage through The Day of America250 Rachel Campos Duffy there's nothing like American music.
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Carol Markowitz
We're the home of rock and roll. We're the home of rap. We're the home of pop music.
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Newt Gingrich
Eric Metaxas, Jared Isaacman.
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Carol Markowitz
I plan to be flying in an F5 fighter jet painted in Freedom 250 colors, along with four other fighter jets
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Buck Sexton
flying over the nation's capital, the story
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Newt Gingrich
of the national anthem and the president, Donald J. Trump. Join me and let's celebrate America's 250. Listen to Newts World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Got some calls coming in, like to take more. Guys, my last hour talking to you before the 250. It's, that's why we're just kind of hanging out, talking, grilling, talking books, talking America. Great time for you to call in or send in a talk back or an email. We have Greg in Joseph City, Arizona. What's going on, Greg?
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Caller or Guest
Buck, it's an honor, my friend. Hey, I just wanted to tell you how your book, it might not have saved my life, but it definitely saved my sanity. I mean, it was bad, brother. First of all, your book is written so well. Great writers have a style. Each have their own little, their, their style. I really like your style. In fact, by the time I got to the getting on the last chapter, I'm like, man, Buck's gonna wrap this up in a big red, beautiful ribbon and give us the answer to propaganda. And, and you know, in the end, you know, it is what it is and there's no way to get rid of it. And like you say, even the good guys, we, you know, we do it too. But it was a beautifully written book. And three times during that book, I tell my wife, honey, we're not crazy. It is them. It's not us, you know?
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Buck Sexton
Yep. It was all true.
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Caller or Guest
I loved it. I love.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Greg. I appreciate you and thank you for, for the shout outs for manufacturing Delusion, which I do hope people will go get. Rhonda, North Carolina, we got about 30 seconds. Rhonda, go ahead.
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Carol Markowitz
Yes. I want to give an honorable mention
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Caller or Guest
to the fact that Katherine Re released the Rush Revere series. So I think that that's a perfect series for kids and even parents to read with your kids. And I don't know if you got the series.
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Carol Markowitz
You know, I know you didn't have
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Caller or Guest
speed at the time that Rush wrote those books, but, but I think that
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Buck Sexton
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
What's going on?
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Carol Markowitz
I mean, I'm very excited for 250. I've got all the flags, I got all the shirts. I made my own merch because I couldn't find what I wanted. I'm super into it. I mean, I, you know, on any year, I'm extremely excited for the 4th of July. I came to America on July 20th, so July 20th. July is just a, generally a very important month for me and I celebrate the day I came to America every year and we celebrate July 4th real hard every year. So, you know, I love this country. I'm all about it. And I never, ever, even when, you know, when I was a teenager or like when it wasn't cool, I was always all out patriotic.
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Buck Sexton
You know, I started off the show talking a bit about, you might have seen this clip circulating around already, but CNN looked at the data and a shocking, shockingly high percentage of Democrats self identify as People who are not proud at all of their country. And it's a big chunk of the Democrat. More people in the Democrat party are basically disgusted by America then very proud of America by their own. This isn't like right wing people are, you know, this is what they're self describing as. You used to live in a very expensive left wing part of Brooklyn, which may be now you're Floridian, like me, may be kind of the political heart of darkness. I mean, it may be like the.
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Carol Markowitz
It is, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
What is it with these people? Like in fancy Brooklyn? Why are there so many people who are so well off, who are so blessed to be in America? But look at patriotism and even. And this is written about in like the New York Times, displays of flags, sometimes with disdain. What is that?
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, well, they have flags up, just not the American flag. It's the Palestinian flag. It's sometimes the Ukrainian flag. It's definitely the gay pride flag. If I did see American flags, they were sometimes upside down in Park Slope. But yeah, that's where bad ideas are bred by people who don't have to live with the consequences of those bad ideas. And they spread all over the country. Like what we're seeing right now with these communists winning different elections. It's a real problem. And those bad ideas, I mean, they began in places like the Soviet Union, but they are spread by people like people who live in Park Slope, who don't feel the consequences of those actions. And, you know, I always think this, like, if my kids don't end up having my politics, like the one thing that I will be so devastated by is if they are, if they don't love and appreciate America because it is the greatest country in the history of the world. It's not particularly close. We're a big traveling family. Like, I love to show them the world, but when we come back home, we just know how good we have it here and that, you know, all these World cup tourists that were here and talking about all the different things that they loved about America, that's me coming home from vacation. I'm like, look at this splendor here. Look at the air conditioning. Look at the, you know, giant gas stations, look at the polite people, all of that, that when I come home from somewhere, I just, I feel so grateful to be home.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, I have the exact same sentiment. Could you just tell everybody you're, you're. This isn't something we've talked about, I think, much before in the air, but you are a, an immigrant, a legal immigrant. Of course, of course, of course. From the former, from the former Soviet Union. I mean, can you bring some of that perspective to this? Because I feel like people that have left and their families have left tyranny and have come to America and joined the American family again lawfully, in the right way, embrace this place in a way that can be instructive even for those of us who are blessed enough to be born here.
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Caller or Guest
Yeah.
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Carol Markowitz
I mean, the thing is, I always felt like I had permission to be very loud and proud about my patriotism because everybody in my world is like that. All ex Soviet immigrants that I know, you know, are extremely patriotic to be American. Like, for example, we had this, you know, the Supreme Court yesterday ruled on immigration and whether you're an American.
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Buck Sexton
Birthright citizenship. Right?
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah. So that birthright citizenship question is in the Russian speaking Facebook groups, for example, that I'm on. You occasionally get the people saying, I live in Russia, I want to come to America and have a baby. And all of the people in the group are like, f you, you know, just really going after them and like, absolutely not. We don't support this. We're not going to help you. We're not going to give you suggestions. There's nobody going to be like, oh, this is how you do it. Zero. It's a very, very patriotic group. And we were refugees to this country. We appreciated it and it wasn't an easy process. We didn't show up and say, hey, take care of us. One of the things that I always point out is that we had to prove that we could support ourselves, that we had somebody willing to vouch for us, to say, if this person can't get a job, I'm going to support them. Now it's like the opposite. People show up here and they're like, what are you going to do for me? And that's not what it's supposed to be. And the fact that so many people were awarded for their law breaking, for coming here illegally, for having children here, you know, under questionable circumstances, to have all of that rewarded. I understand why Americans who were born here and whose families have been here for generations are so angry about that. I'm angry about that. I think that that's something that we just can't have. You have to have borders, you have to have rules. And people who don't follow your rules don't get to be here.
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Buck Sexton
I just want to say, Carol, you know, it is in fact immigration law and has been for a very long time that you are not allowed to be, you're not supposed to be able to come here and not allowed to, when you come here, be what's called a public charge, essentially a welfare dependent. They just stopped enforcing that like that just and that's, you know, that is the law. And because of political reasons, mostly Democrats, but some Republicans too, have essentially betrayed that aspect of our immigration policy. So it's like the American people said, ok, look, we're going to have this thing, we're going to bring in people, they're going to come the right way, they're going to assimilate, they're going to join our family. And as long as those are the rules, that's how we're going to do this. And then people say, well, we're just not going to enforce those rules and they turn into a big mess. And then they ask, what's your problem?
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's the thing is that anybody who's breaking the law to come here, I know it sounds like, oh, they're just, they just want to be here so badly, but they're, they're literally jumping in front of people who are following the law. So another story that I've told some on my show, but my mother's sister lived in the Soviet Union until her death and she had a really hard time getting permission to come to America from American authorities because the idea was, you know, she has her sister here who wouldn't want to stay in America. But the truth was she had grandchildren in the Soviet in Russia, and so she wouldn't have wanted to stay, but so she could never get permission to come. And my mom's watching people just, you know, stream across the border with Mexico and thinking like my sister is trying to follow the rules, trying to follow the law to come here and she can't even come for a visit. And it becomes very galling that that became okay under the Biden administration and before that, where if you're following the law, you're a sucker, you're the person who is never going to benefit from the system. That's just not the way it should be.
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Buck Sexton
Speaking of Carol Markowitz, her podcast on the Clay and Buck network, Carol Markowitz show also normally with, with Mary Kathryn Ham. And just I wanted you to sort of tell everybody, you know, we, we talk a lot on, on, well, look, we're commentators, right? We, we do this thing where we look at the problems and we identify them, we offer up solutions. But I do think I've set up this premise today on the show, Carol, that it's like, this is America's birthday party coming up, and you don't have to do this thing that I think everyone always does is America's great. I mean, we had to address the Native Americans and the legacy of slavery. It's like, can we just celebrate America this one time, this one day?
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Carol Markowitz
Yep, yep. Nobody else does that. You know, I've been to countries all over the world. Nobody talks about the bad things that they did in history on their. The anniversary of their country's founding.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, Turkish people lie about it. They pretend like it didn't even happen in their country with the Armenians. I'm just saying. I mean, there's a lot of countries where they've got that going on.
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Carol Markowitz
Right, right. Lots of countries pretend that they didn't do anything bad, but it's only America that has to keep raking, you know, raking us over the coals, where we're supposed to relive it all the time. And it just.
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Caller or Guest
It's.
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Carol Markowitz
It's the wrong way to be. I also, I love the whole, you know, we're a nation of immigrants. We're a nation of immigrants. Well, if we're a nation of immigrants, then most of us didn't have anything to do with that. So, you know, you can't have both. And I. Yeah, yeah. I think that the idea that America is uniquely evil is ridiculous. And actually we are uniquely good. There's so much good in this country. Again, going back to the World cup tourists, I think that they really expose some of our goodness. We're just always trying to help people right now, you know, in a very quiet way. America is doing so much work in Venezuela after the earthquake that they had there. You never even see that mentioned anywhere. It just. Our goodness is taken for granted, and people like to come at the king, come at the top. And we are at the top. We are the greatest country in the world history. And so people want to bring us down a notch, and we shouldn't let them.
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Buck Sexton
I totally agree with you on that. And I think that the. The World cup tourists. One thing that really does come across one is. Is, yes, they. They see the abundance here. And I had Michael Berry on, who's a friend of Carol's as well before, and we were talking about how much people who have never experienced Texas before, from around the world, because Texas is really its own. You know, it's. It's a unique part of America. Right. And. And it's got a. Such a strong culture in its own way. But whether they're in Boston or they're in Texas or they're in, you know, Seattle. Wherever they are for this World cup or Miami, they're. They're also experiencing something which is we actually don't hate foreigners at all. That's a total lie. That is like, we're a xenophobic country. We take in more than everybody else. We're, you know. You know what I'm saying?
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Newt Gingrich
We're the.
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Buck Sexton
We're the people that take in people from all over the world. But I mean, and now, of course, millions and millions, tens of millions of them over time. And when people are coming here to visit, though, when they're actually guests in our country, whether they're Scottish or they're Japanese or whatever, overwhelmingly Americans are like, oh, it's great you're here. I hope you have a fantastic time.
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Carol Markowitz
Right, Right. And Iran was in the World Cup. You barely heard anything about it from Americans. Meanwhile, like, Scotland is actively rooting against England for, you know, wars that they had hundreds of years ago. At this point, Colombia and Mexico, they got super racist on Twitter in their battles about the World Cup. And meanwhile, we're not doing any of that. And we're still considered the worst. We're still the ones who are racist, and we're still the ones who are, you know, harmful to the world.
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Caller or Guest
It's.
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Carol Markowitz
It's ridiculous. And the thing is, I think what most of the people on the left don't want us to know or why they don't want to celebrate this country is everybody in the world, all over the world, wants to come here, wants to be American. I mean, the people who came here to visit who are like, how could I stay here? They're not from, like, Uganda. They're not from the Congo. They're not from Haiti. They're from, like, Scotland, you know, they're from Sweden. And they're thinking, how can I stay here? Because the life here looks so much better than my own back home.
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Buck Sexton
Carol Markowitz, everybody. Carol, are you doing an episode today? Tomorrow? When can people listen?
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Carol Markowitz
So Mary, Kathryn Ham and I have a rerun for tomorrow. We're not. We're not as industrious as you guys, you know.
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Buck Sexton
So Clay and I are content super freaks. Like, we're.
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Carol Markowitz
We're.
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Buck Sexton
We are machines. Clay never gets tired. Clay is like the. He's the Energizer Bunny of media content. So, anyway, we are impressed.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah. Tuesdays, Thursdays, generally. Tomorrow, download the episode. You can hear and ask us anything.
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Buck Sexton
Wonderful. Carol Markowitz, everybody. Go check out her show. Carol, give a big Hug to Shy and the kids and tell them I said Happy 250th.
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Carol Markowitz
Same to your family. Thank you.
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Buck Sexton
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Carol Markowitz
This is Tracy from Fort Lauderdale, and I'm a podcast listener, and I just listened to Buck's very compelling statement about what it means to be American after the Supreme Court made the wrong decision. Buck, I wish you'd been in front of the Supreme Court when they were considering this because that might have changed some of their minds. Keep up the great work.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Really appreciate that. Honestly, just very nice.
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Caller or Guest
I.
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Buck Sexton
Anytime anyone has something nice to say about the work, it's really meaningful. So trust me, you never get tired of hearing this business. I was talking yesterday, I was at the Barrett Media conference in New York, and I was on stage with Adam Carolla and Jimmy Fayler doing a panel. We're talking about this. And I just said, you know, one of the things about media is if you let it actually teaches you so much humility so that if you ever achieve any level of success, you always remember who you are and what you're all about. Some people take that in the wrong direction, and they view that process of humility as something that they have to make up for by being super egotistical and even a little maniacal and treating people who are coming up in the business or who work for them in the business poorly. I think that the much more. Well, certainly the much more virtuous response is, yeah, you have to take your lumps along the way. And so when people say nice things about your work, you always appreciate it. Brian from Massachusetts listens on 710 WOR. Hit it. Hey, Bo. Brian from Massachusetts. You know, my buddy got stung by a yellow jacket the other day. I told him, better to be stung by a yellow jacket than a red coat. America, happy 250, brother. As a dad joke, Brian, I don't know if you're a dad. That's definitely a dad joke, though. But it was solid. I'll take looks. Wait, is it still possible that America could end up playing? Yeah, America could end up playing. If America wins tonight and Britain wins against Mexico, I think then. Or England, rather. Then England plays America. Is it for. Is it right after the 4th of July? It's coming up. It might even be on fourth of July. Well, this is where I will tell you, despite my love of all things British, obviously I'll be rooting for America. Have a great 2 50th, everybody. Love you all. Talk to you Monday.