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Ryan Seacrest
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Buck Sexton
Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary VGW Group void where prohibited by law 21/ terms and conditions apply. 3rd hour clay and Buck kicks off now and we've got some updates for you on the looming government shutdown situation. Is it going to happen? Is it going to turn into a blame game? We will see, but it will all be fine. And if the system has to get a little bit of a jolt here and there, well, that's to be expected. So I think we have to put some degree of trust in the agenda right now and that means a bit of faith in the plans of the people that we have elected or have been chosen by those we have elected on the Trump, in the Trump White House to get the job done. And there's because remember, there's a lot of horse trading and conversations behind closed doors with these members of Congress that none of us will ever be told about. So there's what is presented to us in the public and then there's what the negotiations sound like when the cameras are not around. Always, always keep that in mind. We've got Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, who has had to take some incoming from reporters. I think they're starting to feel their stuff a little more in the fake news. They are finding that any day where anything bad happens is an opportunity to blame Trump. Which it's fine. We knew this would happen. This isn't even, this is in no way a surprise. This is in no way outside of the realm of what our expectations were here. So just as we go through this, remember that this is the best they've got and we've got our best. We've got some fantastic people in this White House. Caroline Levitt, though, had a quite an exchange. This just happened in the last hour. Quite an exchange over in the White house with an AP reporter. This is cut 29. I want to let you listen in. Enjoy.
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Caroline Levitt
He's actually not implementing tax hikes. Tariffs are a tax hike on foreign Countries that again, have been ripping us off. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people. And the President is a staunch advocate of tax cuts. As you know, he campaigned on no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, no taxes on Social Security benefits. He is committed to all three of those things and he expects Congress to pass them later this year.
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Buck Sexton
I'm sorry, have you ever paid a tariff?
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Ryan Seacrest
Because I have.
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Buck Sexton
They don't get charged on foreign companies, they get charged on the importers.
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Caroline Levitt
And ultimately, when we have fair and balanced trade, which the American people have not seen in decades, as I said at the beginning, revenues will stay here, wages will go up, and our country will be made wealthy again. And I think it's insulting that you are trying to test my knowledge of economics and the decisions that this president has made. Regret giving a question to the Associated Press.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I mean, he was just being disrespectful. Have you ever paid a tariff? What is this guy, like the tariff king or something? Have you ever paid a tariff? I have. Look, this brings us back to the first hour discussion, which is again, tariffs are a tool. They are not a catch all. They are not always appropriate or always wise, but they can get concessions from the other side. Notice we have all kinds of agreements with countries that make distinctions between the countries in terms of trade access to our markets. You know, we're not buying any oil from Iran, my friends, or at least we're not supposed to be. Right? We make all kinds of determinations that are economic but have greater implications or other implications as well. Who gets to come here easily versus who has to really struggle to get a visa. We make determinations which obviously affects our economy. Right. There are all kinds of things, all kinds of complexities that go into this. And just the, the simple, the, the simple approach of tariff, bad, free trade, good. Okay, but we don't have free trade. So what do we do about the tariffs that are in place already against US Producers? What is a better option saying, look, you're going to tariff us, we're going to tariff you, get rid of your tariff. And then it's not like Trump is just doing this because he enjoys. Well, I mean, he is Trump. He enjoys messing with the system. But he's not just doing this because it makes him jolly. He's doing it because he thinks there is something that the US can gain in response. So if it means removing a tariff from a country, then against us, then that's, that's one aspect of this. It also could be a change in policy, as I Said Mexico needs to get a handle on the U.S. mexico border and needs to help us with the human trafficking problem, the drug trafficking problem, the cartels, all of it. And that matters even more than the price of eggs, believe it or not, that stuff. 100,000Americans dead from fentanyl overdose. Think of all the criminality. You know, we often are talking about the. The fentanyl problem as the first. The first thing you see is how many people die. And that's. It's heartbreaking. And I know it's. It's. Technically, it's all opioids, including heroin, which isn't fentanyl. But of the 100,000 overdose deaths a year, I know the numbers a little bit more than that, but it's roughly 100,000 a year now. Not long ago, it was, I think team checked me on this one. If you go back 30 years, I think the overdoses were more like 20 or 30,000. It was way less, 15 or 20,000. Way less than it is now. Fentanyl is cheap to make, easy to transport. You know, it's not. You don't have to grow it in the jungle somewhere, and it's just an absolute scourge. But the same way that we look at the overdose death number and realize that it's terrible, we need to see that there are all of these tributaries of despair that come off that river. There are all these different branches of that tree. There is all the illegal activity that is funded by the drug trade. Right. There's all the gangs that get wealthy or make money for themselves from selling these drugs. Not just the cartels, I mean, in this country and the other activities that they're involved in, you know, human trafficking, you know, the violence that they're involved in. And then for every person that dies of a drug overdose, there's a family that is. That is. Has lost a loved one. There's a community that has to mourn that death. Right. So the expansiveness of that problem, there's a. I don't think of this generally in this term. There's the, you know, lost economic opportunity of Americans of working age who are gone now. I know you could say, oh, well, they had all kinds of problems, and that's why they were on drugs. Yeah. But we can. There are a lot of people that have been able to beat their addictions. A lot of people have been able to overcome that. And this is absolutely critical. Yeah, here we go. The team pulled this for me in 1995, the US had about 12,000 overdose deaths. In 1995 12,000. Now we're over 100,000. To give you a sense of the scale of the problem, because one of the issues is now it's been years of 100,000 plus, 100,000 plus, and you start to become not numb to it. But I guess it doesn't have the same resonance in public policy debate because, oh, well, I guess we're just stuck at 100,000 now. No, that number. Let's get back to 10,000. Let's get back to 10 thousand and then let's try to get down to zero, which, I mean, that's never, it's like getting rid of all murder. I know that's never going to happen, but these are the goals that we should have. I bring this up in the context of tariffs, though, because a big part of this is making sure that we got Border Patrol people listening, which I'm always honored, when we have all different kinds of law enforcement that tune into this show. And I try to always both be informative about the issues that they are true experts on it, and always, of course, be fair to them and the mission that they do and the challenges of it. Talk to Border Patrol about their, the Mexican partners on the other side. I mean, they just, they just say, you gotta be kidding me. They don't, you know, they don't care. Now it's getting a little better under Trump. But for years, you know, they got other problems. They got bribes to collect. They don't have time to stop human trafficking. It's the truth. So, and this is from, this is from Border Patrol guys. To me, this is what they've told me. It's not like, I'm just assuming this. They've said, oh, yeah, Mexican partners said, well, that should be better. That should be a better relationship. And not just because we're not going to get there by appealing to the altruism of the Mexican authorities and the sense of teamwork, you know, that's not going to do it. And I think that that's very important. One other thing here, the deportation issue. This is going to, this is going to be a huge challenge for the Trump administration in all, in all senses, political will, logistical challenge. They don't have. I mean, right now, I saw, I think it was on Fox News today, 600 illegals were rounded up and, you know, dangerous gang members, rapists. You know, bet the fact that this is as like a novel idea for Trump to come in. Just think about this for a second. Trump comes in and he goes, you know what? The people who are in the country illegally to begin with, who are also committing heinous crimes against Americans. They gotta go. How is this not the policy already? I know it wasn't and I know why. But it is hard for your brain, I think, to comprehend for people of any integrity who believe in the rule of law, who believe in public safety, that there has to be a push that, that Trump has to spend any time and political capital on, hey, we're getting rid of the murderer, rapist, you know, drug dealer, illegal aliens in this country and sending them back to their countries where they belong. Of course. Right. But no, not, of course, Democrats aren't, as you know, on board for that. But even a lot of the corporatists out there and the, the donor class are, as you know, very favorable in general. A lot of them are very favorable toward illegal immigration. I mean, I remember I was at a dinner, I guess I can't remember if it was technically off the record. It was with a bunch of very, very well known conservatives. Okay. And there was a donor at the table, a sort of a donor class person, I should say. I would tell you, I'm not trying to be coy, but if someone, if anything with me is ever off the, you know, rather if anyone is at non attribution or we don't talk about the names of people who are here, I take that very seriously. But I can say what the discussion was because the discussion was about illegals and the donor person was like, well, how am I going to get people to work in my, in my factories? How am I going to get people or my factories if we don't have the illegals to do it? I remember looking at this person, I actually engaged on this. I said, what do you mean? There's no special skill set. You just want people who are not covered under the laws in the state that they're in when it comes to employment because they're illegal. So they're not going to go and complain or they're not going to be part of a collective bargaining agreement and you're going to underpay them, exploit them, and then hand all the social costs, English as a second language training, emergency room for first line medical care. You know, all of that stuff gets foisted on to like people that are working for a living that don't own, you know, $100 million factories. Right, that's, that's the game plan. So I thought this was interesting. And that was a conservative, by the way, or I should say a Republican at least that was a Republican making This. What do you mean how? Without the illegals, how will anyone work in my factories? People, the industrial revolution was not based on illegal immigrants from Mexico. Like, we'll figure it out. Here's the CEO of BlackRock, a massive financial institution that has done a lot of damage with its wokeness and what it. Oh my God. I do a whole hour on this alone. But here's a CEO of Blackstone who's saying, oh, if you deport the illegals, bad things will happen. Play 16.
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Larry Fink
I do believe deportations and the speed at which this happening is going to have severe impact on the agricultural sector and the construction sector. I've talked to CEOs in the ag sector and they remind me that 70% of the men and women who work in the agriculture were not born in the United States. 40% of the construction workers were not born in the United States. You add that up and what's going on, I think we're going to start seeing, especially when spring and the spring crops arrive, are we going to have enough workers to harvest the crops? And now, you know, with the whole idea that we're going to have to use a private capital to build up this economy, are we going to have enough workers? I've even told members of the Trump team that we're going to run out of electricians as we build out of a data centers. We just don't have enough.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, hold on a second. Notice how he says not born in this country. Yeah, a lot of people are not born in this country and they come here legally. Is that what he's talking about? He's the CEO of BlackRock is saying, well, we have all these people in the agricultural industry. One board weren't born in this country. All right, are they legal immigrants? Because that's a big distinct. We're talking about illegal. Legal immigrants are not being. Well, I'll talk about one case where somebody who's a legal immigrant is about to get deported in a second. But in general, this is not about legal immigrants, it's about illegal immigrants. But also we've seen what we've begin to begun to become more familiar with. Importing the third world and people who are going to be dependent on state resources when we're 36 trillion in debt and can't seem to get our spending under control is not going to make us wealthier again. Take it back to the fundamentals. Take it back to the basic truth that we can all understand. Bringing in people who are going to need more state resources and support is not going to make us a wealthier country. If that were the case, the people coming in could make the countries, they come from wealthy countries. But that's not happening, is it? Why is that the case? There is something unique about America. It is not just an economic zone. This is not the world's soup kitchen. It is Americans who make this place special and have made it special. So no matter what Larry Fink says over at blackrock. All right, let's talk some sports. Good days to be a sports fan, especially if you're producer Mark or producer Mark as we heard yesterday because he loves the NHL stuff and NHL. NBA leagues are heating up right now. A lot of playoff contenders. March Madness tournament starts next week. I got to fill out a bracket that's, you know, that's going to be interesting. I'll figure out what these teams are called. While you wait for all that to happen, though, you got to download the prize picks Apple. Clay's going to be back Monday. He's going to have all kinds of March Madness picks for you. You can roll with us. I'll probably follow his picks because I want to make some money, but it's really fun. The Prize Picks app is really easy to do and it just gets you more engaged as you're walking. Watch watching the sports. And you can talk smack to your friends when you get better picks than them. It's great. Like when I'm right and Clay's wrong because I called the Eagles. We're going to win the super bowl, if you remember. I'm just saying. A lot of fun. So join over 10 million users now with Prize Picks. You download the Prize Picks app, use my name Buck as your code. You will get three $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup. Again, just use code BUCK to get $50 instantly after you play your FIRST $5 lineup. Prize picks run your game. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Mic drops that never sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Buck Sexton
No purchase necessary. VGW Group void where prohibited by law 21 + terms and conditions apply. Welcome back in. I want to take a little moment of. Of happy time here for a second. And to do so, I will take our attention over to C. Cnn, believe it or not to cnn. And it is to hear how Van Jones feels about where the Democrats are these days. I think you're going to really enjoy this. So kick back, relax, Enjoy the show. Cut 25 play. In terms of Democrats and where they.
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Clay Travis
Go from here, they still seem to.
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Buck Sexton
Be wandering around trying to figure, figure this out.
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Clay Travis
What's your take?
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Mike Johnson
Can we ask another question? Can we talk about Ukraine or something? No, no. Look, man, we're screwed. I mean, we don't know. Democrats don't know what to do. This is a nightmare. You know, somebody like Donald Trump, we thought we'd at least have, you know, Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair to hold him back. If we didn't have Kamala in there to do the right thing. It's gonna take a while for people to get it figured out. I don't like talking about this.
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Buck Sexton
It's a nightmare for Democrats right now. So keep that in mind as our side is trying to figure out how to get more done and do important work. Whether it's on the, whether it's on spending or tariffs or the border. The Democrat opposition is still in complete and utter disarray. And I think that that's good for us, it's good for the country, and it's indicative of the scale of the victory in this last election. It has just felt like a wipeout on the other side. I've never seen anything like it. It's not going to last. So the time to get big stuff done is now. When you switch your cell phone service to PureTalk from AT&T Verizon or T Mobile, you're gonna save money every month without sacrificing any quality in cell phone service. I know because PureTalk has been my cell service provider for years now. What you might not know is that PureTalk uses the cell phone towers and network one of those big companies. So you do get the best 5G nationwide service available. Available. Pure Talk has the lowest monthly prices of any carrier. They haven't had a price increase in years. And if you need a new cell phone now with a qualifying plan from PureTalk, you can choose an iPhone 14 or a Samsung Galaxy. On PureTalk, get your iPhone 14 or Samsung Galaxy at no cost to you with a qualifying plan by dialing pound250 and say the keywords clay and buck. PureTalk's US customer service team will help you make the switch. No hassle, no Gimmicks. Just dial £250 from your phone. Say the keywords Clay and Buck to claim your iPhone or Galaxy with qualifying purchase or go to PureTalk.com for details. All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. I was mentioning before this story about Mahmoud Khalil. This is getting a lot of attention right now. New York Times and others all in up in arms about this. So let's, let's look at what this story is. You will all you will remember, and we talked about it here on the show, there were some just outrageous anti Semitic protests and protest doesn't really cover it because some of it was threats, trespassing, destruction of property. There were crimes that were committed. Now, I'm not saying these are all serious felonies or, you know, there's some, but there were, there were crimes that were committed on campus. And Trump has said that they can either clean up their act or they're going to lose. I think they're set to lose hundreds of millions of dollars at Columbia in federal grants. Why are private institutions like Columbia getting hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money? Very good question. Something to be looked at. We're going to look at that. But this case is interesting to me. There's a lot of back and forth. The speaker of the House, just so you know, it's already gone up to that level. Speaker of the House Johnson took time from the ongoing wrangling of members of Congress for the continuing resolution to address this. And he said, this is cut 18. Here's Speaker Mike Johnson. Play it.
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Mike Johnson
If you're on a student visa. I'm going to say this clearly. If you are on a student visa and you're in America and you're an aspiring young terrorist who wants to prey upon your Jewish classmates mates, you're going home, we're going to arrest your tail and we're going to send you home where you belong. And that this is just getting started. So look, I appreciate free speech. I used to defend it in courts. But this is far beyond the pale of that. When you are threatening your classmates and spewing anti Semitism and all this hatred, it's enough. And I think the American people understand that. They're supporting it. And I'm glad we have a president who's strong enough to lay down the law.
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Buck Sexton
So I've got a lot of thoughts about this and I do want to hear from some of you. Although we're going to be coming to the close of the show here pretty soon, so maybe get your talk backs ready, your emails ready, because we won't have that much time for calls. Here's, here's what I see on this. This guy was part of these Colombia protests. Mahmoud Khalil. We'll just call him Khalil from here on out in Arabic class. My Arabic name was Khaled, for those who want to know. Back in the day. It's been a while. I could still write it, I guess, if I had to. So, yeah. Anyway, so this guy Khalil, he was arrested at his home by ICE agents and is facing deportation. He's a big pro Palestinian guy. Now, this is where it all gets kind of. This is where a lot of the fighting happens, right? Because they say, well, you're allowed to be pro Palestinian. Okay. Yeah, you're allowed to be pro Palestinian. Sure. I'm talking about First Amendment stuff. But are you pro Palestinian, you pro Hamas? Hamas is a terrorist entity. If you are selling T shirts to raise money for Hamas, it's a designated terrorist. And I'm not saying he did this. I'm just working through some of the, the, you know, the intricacies here of this, of this case. If you're selling T shirts or mugs, you know, if you're selling a mug, I heart Hamas. First of all, you're a lunatic. Second of all, and you're trying to send that money to Hamas, that's material support to a terrorist organization. I think you can get 10 year, 10 years federal for that. Right? So that's clearly a violation of the law, and that's for anybody. You're here as an American green card. Hold it. Doesn't matter any. You can't do that. You're on. You're in U.S. jurisdiction of any kind, and you're doing material support for terrorist organization. Now, can you speak in favor of a terrorist organization under the First Amendment? Clearly you can. So you can say, you know, I, you can say that I agreed with, you know, the plans of Abu Bakr al Baghdadi to create a caliphate or something. You know, you can say that, but you can't take any steps to advance or assist or help because then again, we get back to material support, you can't be a U.S. spokesman for that group, then you're definitely going to Gitmo or something. So there are places where this crosses over very quickly. Here is what we know about this guy Khalil. He was at Columbia. He was a prominent Face of these, again, they call them protests. It was really. There were Jewish students who were, you know, hounded and harassed on campus. I hate all of that. Like, I, you know how I feel about Israel's fight against Hamas could not be more in favor of Israel doing what it needs to defend itself. You know how I feel about anti Semitism. And it has no place anywhere. And here's the only place where I have a little bit of a question about this. On the one hand, I feel very strongly that if you're, if you're a guest here, you've got to be on. Meaning if you're not, you know, if you're somebody who's visited, and this even includes people who have a green card, you're not yet a citizen. If you break the law, you gotta go. You gotta go, right? That I am. And that has not been the case, as we've seen, with a lot of. There's so, so much of a lack of enforcement on this. But if you break the law, you gotta go. And it doesn't have to be like a rape or a murder. It's just if you break the law and you are charged with a crime, you gotta go. The issue that I see here is this guy, I don't believe has been charged with any crime. I don't believe he's been charged with any crime. He, his behavior, from what I can gather from everything, is abhorrent. I disagree with him on everything. I think he's a scumbag. He's a guest in this country. Yes. So he has that elevated, that elevated expectation of, you know, you don't get to just do whatever. Like, you don't get. And now in the actual laws that pertain to this with. When it comes to immigration, there are, you know, there are things that specifically cite a desire to overthrow the United States by force. So if you're. Even so there are ideological places where, you know, first of it, if you come to this country and you're. Let's say you're from communist China and you are visiting on a student visa and you start saying out in public, I think that there should be a violent revolution to overthrow the United States government. I'm out. We can, we can kick your butt out of here. That is in the law. There's no, no doubt about that. Right. That is, that is statute. I actually was reading the statute before I came on this morning to make sure a lot of immigration statutes are ignored, as we know, and that should not be the case because they are existing law. Just like all the other laws with this guy. Where I think it gets interesting is, has he, if he's going to be sent home as a, as somebody who's here on a student visa as a green card holder. I've heard both, by the way. Guys, can we check on that? Is he a green card holder or is he here on a student visa? Or is it, is it one, then the other? Is it both? Got to check his status. You should be on your best behavior here. You do not have the full rights of a citizen here. Obviously you can't vote. There's a whole bunch of things. If you're a guest here, you, you should just be thankful and total obedience to the law. If he broke the law, and that's why we're sending him home. Well, there should, there should at least be a charge filed, right, that somebody should charge him with. And there's a bunch that I think would apply here. Harassment and, you know, intimidation. Menacing, I believe is a statute in the penal code in New York City, if memory serves, from when I was in the nypd, briefly in the nypd and I was kind of like a hired nerd for the nypd. I wasn't doing the like real cop stuff, but I think menacing would be in there. You know, assault and battery, destruction of property, any of that. But to say that he's done it and therefore we're kicking him out without him being charged with any of that, that I know he's a scumbag. I don't like this guy or what he stands for either. But we, there, there is due, like there is due process. We still do need due process. So has he gotten that due process yet? That, that is a question that I have about this. A judge has already blocked, now it's, I'm sure, a left wing judge, his removal from the US Pending an action on habeas. As in why is this guy in custody? This is going to get interesting. Because if he's in custody for not, you know, for saying bad things, okay, well, that's not really a crime. If he's in custody for breaking laws, let's bring that charge and then let's go and let's find him guilty and then let's send his ass home. Very straightforward. Again, I'm all for you have to behave and you have to obey the law in this country. If, especially if you're a visitor or else you go home. No, no if, ands or buts. But if we're saying that he was trying to call for the violent. I think he wanted to call for. By the way, I'm raising questions here. I haven't been able to look at everything this guy's ever said. And there's. I think he said he wants to. The downfall of Western civilization. Right? And that's where we get to. Can you look at the downfall of Western civilization as the equivalent in statute of a violent overthrow of the United States government? You know, it's, it's getting pretty close. This is where the judgment starts to come in again. Anybody who wants the violent overthrow of, or the overthrow rather of Western civilization, I'm opposed to with every fiber of my being. It would be a disaster not just for those of us who live in Western civilization, but for the rest of the world because we kind of prop up civilization for everybody else to. Just saying. So I want to see what, what exactly it was that. And this is going to come out in the habeas. Habeas corpus petition, right? This is what they're fighting over. Okay, well, why is this guy in custody? And I keep hearing all of these different things and now I'm just going to. I'm going to say this. Is this applicable in this case, specifically applying to issues of anti Semitism and anti Jewish speech on campus? Is it going to be applied to other speech on campus that is particularly problematic? And who is going to determine what that problematic speech may be? I bring it up because. Let's just fast forward. Forget about where we are now. Our team, the good guys are in charge. And I know it's like we trust them, right? For the most part. We. You go to a. If I say AOC administration, you'll all just start laughing. So you won't even follow the analogy. But you go to a Gavin Newsom, you're probably still laughing. A Gavin Newsom administration. And somebody on campus wants to say or is saying things that are highly, highly offensive to Democrats. Are they going to be able to. And they're visiting, right? They're not an American citizen. They do not have full citizenship rights. Are Democrats going to be able to say you're calling for the extermination of trans people. You're calling for violence against trans people. I know you're going to tell me, oh, no, come on. These people think that a man can become a woman. You don't think they're going to make this argument at some point if we start to open this up again? There has to be. I just want to know what the clear process is here. Mahmoud Khalil stands for everything, stands against everything. That I stand for on the issues that concerns him or on the reasons. And his anti Semitism is vile and the guy shouldn't be in this country. But I just want, and this is where the habeas petition comes in. We need clarity on, well, what is the reason that he's being removed? Because if, if the executive branch can point to someone and say, well, you're a visitor here and I just don't like what you're saying. Even if in this case it's fully warranted and we totally agree with it, there's a precedent that they can just tell people, oh no, you're not allowed to come here and say that you're not allowed to come here as a, as a refugee from say as a white refugee from South Africa, which is another thing that Trump has been talking about and talk about the state racism in South Africa against white South Africa. No, no, no, not allowed. That's creating, you know, racial disharmony in this country. And it's a, so you have to, you have to go home again in the Gavin Newsom administration. You see what I'm saying? I want clarity on this. I don't, I'm not opposed to it, but I want some of these answers because we need to be clear about what the standard is. And the standard can't just be a one off standard on this issue. As, as awful as the anti Semitism stuff on campus was. Because if it is just speech we really don't like on campus. Remember I wrote my college thesis on speech codes on campus. Right. So this is going back for me a long time. I was thinking about this issue over 20 years ago and researching it and looking at all the different speech codes of a whole range of different schools. If it's just going to be, you say things that are really heinous and bad and then they claim that somehow that's inciting violence and then that's a violation of your, your student visa, the other side is going to be in power at some point and I can assure you they will abuse this, which is why the process matters. So I have a little bit of a different take on this. I think that some other people on the right right now, in so much as I want more, I just want, I want more issues, more answers rather, and more clarity on this one. But yes, if you break the law and your visitor gone, if you violate statute, your visitor gone, that, that is absolutely. But you got to do one of those. Show me the violation of the statute. Show me where the law is broken and show me where the charge has been leveled. It can't just be someone determines it because they say so. Right. I would think, unless I guess maybe an immigration judge can just unilaterally decide based on this is where you have to get very, very specific in the immigration statute. That may be the case. Executive branch may have full authority to tell this guy that, you know, you go packing and I'm not opposed to that at all. I'm for that. I just want to know what is he being sent packing for? Because saying stupid, heinous things. I need more spec. I need more specificity than that. If it's overthrowing Western civilization is tantamount to overthrowing the United States government. Well, let's have this will come out in the habeas petition, by the way. So we will return to this issue. But I wanted to be, you know, intellectually honest with you as I work through this one and just see what's really, what's really at issue, what's really going on here. Because I know right now it's like, oh, our team is in charge and it's the pendulum will swing, my friends. Keep that in mind. 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