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Clay Travis
Third hour of playing Buck gets going right now with Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin joining us. Senator, appreciate you as always, sir. Thanks for calling in full Buck.
Buck Sexton
I hope you're doing well.
Clay Travis
Yeah, man, things are great here. Let's, let's get right to it. This revelation that came out, it was a combination of reporting from Miranda Devine, Tucker Carlson on Thomas Crooks, the would be assassin of Donald Trump. Really the first of two would be assassins, but the one who actually got shots off and managed to shoot the president in the ear. There seems to be information that maybe the FBI had but didn't publicly release or first. Let me ask you about that. What do you make of this? That there were some accounts online that we weren't told about that indicated at least at some level, Thomas Crooks had become a, you know, using trans pronouns, all this kind of stuff. What do you make of this? Did the FBI probably know and just not talk about it or did they miss it or what?
Buck Sexton
Again, I got a great deal of sympathy for Casp Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, going to these agencies, trying to root out the deep state actors that many are still burrowed in, unable to really hire the kind of staff they need because of the lawfare against good people like judge troops in Wisconsin and others. They're kind of reluctant to join the Trump administration during their career be destroyed. So I want to start there. I've got a great deal of sympathy. These guys come into office, they've got enormous messes they're trying to clean up, actually turn these agencies into what they're meant to be crime fighting units for the standpoint of the FBI. But at the same time, I'll say I've been frustrated. We tried to undertake a bipartisan investigation and we did some work. But by and large, what we found out about Butler was pretty well gleaned by my investigatory staff. In the first week, primarily talking to local law officials, I issued what I considered a friendly subpoena to the FBI to help prompt more documents, more information coming forward. Our liaison, the FBI actually thanked us for the subpoena. But the fact of the matter is we really have not gotten much. So we've had to go out and contact phone carriers and social media companies. We're starting to get information, we're piecing things together. You know, there are things that are interesting that we need to kind of complete the investigation before we start publishing. But no, there's an awful lot unknown about Thomas Crooks that from my standpoint, we should have known quite some time ago.
Clay Travis
Just so I'm clear on this, Senator, there's an awful lot that the public should know about that you think the FBI has and has not made public or there's more that the FBI maybe didn't find.
Buck Sexton
It's probably both.
Clay Travis
Both. Okay. Yeah.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. You know, again we, yeah, I mean, I'm frustrated, but there's no doubt about it. But, but again, I don't want to be throwing past Paladin Bonjour under the.
Clay Travis
Bus because just so you know, Senator, we don't do that. You know, we know Cash and, and, and Dan here, they're friends of ours. I, I, from before they took these jobs. They took these jobs because they want to help and they want to reform and they, you know, and we get a lot of heat for standing up for them here because some people have been very frustrated with even a lot of Trump voters have been frustrated with the transparency issue. But I try to remind everybody these are enormous, unwieldy bureaucratic institutions that were really left rot from the inside under previous administrations. There's a lot of work to be done.
Buck Sexton
There really is. So we're pursuing this. I'm pretty well undertaking the investigation now from the Senate standpoint, just through my firm's upcoming investigation kind of walked away from the bipartisan because it just slowed its way down. But again, all I can say is there's more information that will eventually come out and some that we have not yet discovered. So we're still, we're still doing investigation.
Clay Travis
Now on the transparency issue, obviously you were a yes vote for releasing the Epstein Files because the Senate was unanimous in this. Right? One member of the House, everyone else voted for it. One member of the House is. Look, I'm. His concern was that he thinks that there are people that will be tainted who didn't do anything wrong, but their name is just in some. Ok, so that was his. But everybody else voted to release this thing. Can you just tell us what your sense is of where the president has been on this one? I know you talked to President Trump. He is now in favor of it. But people keep asking, they say, well, why is he in favor of it now? Why has there been this delay and how do you see the release of the Epstein files from the beginning of this administration to present in terms of what's gone on here? Like, why has it been so Stop start.
Buck Sexton
Really did a pretty good job of laying out his concerns about, you know, information getting out in the public domain that really would be harmful to victims. And is that going to be adequately protected in whatever gets released this time? More concerns. I think President Trump, as I would have similar concerns going, is this evidence of these documents untainted? Let's face it, they're in the Biden, the midst of the Biden administration who, I mean, that administration doing everything they could destroy Donald Trump during their four years. If there was something damaging to Trump, you would think that would have already been released. So, yeah, I also take the president's word. I mean, he just, he doesn't. We have serious problems facing this nation. There are a lot of things he's addressing. Do we really need this distraction? Having said all that, I'm as curious as every other American about what happened, bringing people to justice who are pedophiles that, you know, engage this kind of abuse. So, again, I'm as curious as anybody. We didn't take a vote, by the way. We just passed this by unanimous consent, I think, before the bill even got over here. So, yeah, the Senate didn't want to take much time on this. That was a fight in the House. People who fought for disclosure won. And now we'll see what we get.
Clay Travis
Yeah, it's a rare, it's a rare moment where things just fly through in bipartisan fashion in the Congress. So now we're. Once the president signs this and everyone believes it's going to get signed imminently, 30 days for the release. Is that how this goes?
Buck Sexton
That's what I hear. But again, they still probably need to do review and there will be some material withheld and they, in the while they've got, I think Four or five very specific reasons of things that can be withheld. But, you know, really what this reflects is the public wanted to see this. And so as elected officials, when you, when you, for a year are, that's the number one thing that people are calling to your office. You'll vote to release the Epstein files. You know, in the end, representative government actually works.
Clay Travis
Yeah. Now, what do you have on the, on the agenda here? I know the Senate goes into recess, what, next week sometime for Thanksgiving. What are you hoping can get done before the end of this year? Is there anything, Are you, are you going to try to get some judges through? How's that going? What, what are you looking to get the, the Senate to finally push over the finish line here before we all head out for the holidays?
Buck Sexton
Yeah, the Senate's always doing nominations. Now that we had to change rules because of the obnoxious obstruction of Democrats. We'll probably clear another 70 to 100 nominations of various types. We are working on health care, by the way. We always have. It's just galling to hear Republicans have no plans. No, we have all kinds of plans. It's how do we get it passed? Democrats are in a complete state of denial of the miserable failure that Obamacare has been. The reason people's premiums are increasing is because of the flawed design of Obamacare. So we are working very diligently on that. You know, Rick Scott is heavily involved in this, probably as knowledgeable an individual on healthcare in America, if not the world. So we've got some good people here. I bought health care for 30 years. I'm pretty knowledgeable about it as well. So we're going to do this based on repairing the damage done by Obamacare, properly defining the problem, coming up with what are the principles. And President Trump tweeted the main principles. Rather than spend hundreds or send hundreds of billions of dollars into these insurance companies. United Health stock price increased 1,177% since Obamacare. The slowest percent increase in stock price is 414%. So instead of filling the conference of insurance companies, why don't we give that money to the American people, turn them into consumers of health insurance and health care with things like HSA accounts. So no Republicans have solutions. It's how can we overcome the impediment that the structure of Obamacare is with the current filibuster, which, by the way, I've been very public reluctantly, but I completely agree with President Trump. It's time to end the filibuster. The Democrats will do it we will look like schmucks in 2028 if they have all the levers of power and they do this and then do it to maintain their power as opposed to, we're going to do it to secure our elections, further secure our border, hopefully repair the damage done by Obamacare, transition to a system that works, you know, have a prosperous economy, make things more affordable. You know, we would, we would use ending the filibuster for the benefit of the American people, not our own personal power.
Clay Travis
Speaking of Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Senator, I want to actually circle back if I can, to the oversight of, of the FBI for a moment here because I know you're very up to speed on the Arctic Frost situation. Right. That was the FBI investigation run under the Biden administration about January 6th in the 2020 election. It looks like there were abuses there. What can you tell us about what we're learning about Arctic Frost and what's going to come next?
Buck Sexton
Well, I think what has been revealed recently, this wasn't just a mere fishing expedition. This was a massive partisan dragnet really meant to cripple the Republican Party. Obviously Trump was the main target. Yeah, we got some members of Congress, got some of our phone records scooped up. But what's maybe the most outrageous is just ordinary citizens. You know, all these affiliated Republican groups. But for example, in Wisconsin, 38 Wisconsinites, just God fearing, country loving, law enforcement supporting people were on the enemy's list. They are literally trying to destroy a person of unbelievable integrity. Judge Troopas, who just represented President Trump for two, two months after the election, there were serious problems in Wisconsin. They're criminalizing that behavior. They're attempting to. That's what all Arter Cross is all about. Criminalizing what basically JFK did in Hawaii, at least alternate electors. It's just shameful. And I met with the Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche this week and they are completely on board with exposure. And one of the things I point out is get us the communication records between Biden officials and Wisconsin officials on for example, Judge Troopas. You know, let's see the coordination between the Biden administration, these outside groups, the Mary McCord's, the Marco Isis, you know, all these legal groups that the left has that are engaged in lawfare across the board. Again, not just against President Trump, but ordinary Americans. People just have to support the Republican Party and President Trump. They're trying to destroy all these people.
Clay Travis
Senator Johnson, one more for you before we let you go. What is your favorite part of a traditional And I don't know how you guys do it up in Wisconsin, but a traditional American Thanksgiving feast, your favorite.
Buck Sexton
Dish, I mean, it's the turkey, it's the dressing, it's the gravy, it's the mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes and corn. That. That is my Thanksgiving dinner. I got to have it all in the right portions. I start and portion it out and I end with the exact portions. For that final bite, we just literally had Thanksgiving lunch. John Bozeman provided it. So I had a pre Thanksgiving dinner. It was fabulous. Can't wait till Thursday. And I wish all you and all your listeners a very happy Thanksgiving.
Clay Travis
Same to you, Senator. Thanks so much. Have a great holiday. We'll talk to you soon.
Buck Sexton
Take care.
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Let's get some calls, let's get some talk backs. Oh, also, Caroline Levitt, the one and only. She has had quite a press conference today, as she tends to do, and we have some of the highlights of that for all of you. And we will get into it. But we have Matt in Rockville, Maryland, live on the line. What's going on? Matt.
Buck Sexton
Reporting from the People's Republic of Montgomery County, Maryland. One of the things that real quick, one of the things that Governor DeSantis said about the about the people not wanting the property taxes that were against it. It seems to be working out pretty well for not having state income taxes, but neither here nor there. I didn't hear any of these Democrats that were saying to ignore orders that were unlawful. Were they saying anything about when Obama had the disposition matrix and we're droning Americans to death in the Middle East? Did these Democrats say anything about how Biden had the military cutting razor wire to allow illegal immigrants to flood the country? Were they saying anything about that?
Clay Travis
No. I brought up the droning issue with Obama, as you might have heard, Matt, on the show. And I totally agree. They set this precedent and now they want to act like they didn't. And they did. And also the civilian casualties that these drone strikes were starting to rack up over time were considerable. So they didn't have any problem with this. You know, Code Pink basically disappeared under the Obama administration. Right. The Supposedly anti war. They're really just anti America and anti civilization. But the anti war lunatics. The anti war movement only seems to have any real heft behind it when there's a Republican in office. Thank you for calling in, Matt. Ellen in Rocky River, Ohio. A new. I learned a new place today. What's going on, Ellen?
Buck Sexton
I. Well, I want to tell you, I watched the entire interview that Martha McCallum had yesterday with that congressman from Colorado. She was a lot more polite than I would have been. I'd have cut his mic. But he was rude, he was insulting, he was disrespectful and he continued to talk over her. He was the poster boy for mansplaining and I thought that was a behavior that the leftist gals got all upset about and accused the right wing misogynist of engaging and he made. He did not do himself any favor. It was a horrible interview.
Clay Travis
Yeah. Well, I think they've made a, an error with this video. I think it looked really. To anybody who is observing, honestly, I think it looked very like it's kind of a weird, cheap shot against the administration. You're not going to say what the order is that you have a problem with. Ellen, thank you for calling in. I agree. That guy, Jason Crow, there's something about him that doesn't. He's never going to be like a Democrat nominee for president. I could tell you that he does not come across as certainly in that or other interviews I've seen that come across as likable as somebody that like, you want to spend time around. I'm just. That's my impression of him politically. Uh, let's see. Podcast bb Podcast listener Steve, let's go with this. Bb.
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Caroline Levitt
President Trump took a significant step toward delivering on a core campaign promise to finally close the Department of Education. To shrink the bloated federal bureaucracy. The Department of Education just entered into new interagency agreements with four agencies, the Departments of Labor, Interior, Health and Human Services and State. These agencies will now ensure the delivery of legally required programs while also refocusing them to better serve students. This common sense action brings the Trump administration much closer to finally returning education where it belongs at the state and local level. Not in Washington, D.C. the Democrats reckless 43 day government shutdown did manage to do one valuable thing. It proved that America does not need a federal defense Department of Education.
Clay Travis
So they are finding a way within the bureaucratic framework that currently exists to kind of dismantle the Department of Education. I think that is the, the plan here. And that's a good thing. That's a good thing. There does not need to be, there should not be a federal Department of Education. There's no reason for this. So several of its main offices, as she laid out here, are going to be moved into other places, Labor, Interior, so this won't affect the money that Congress gives state schools and colleges. But why do we need a huge bureaucratic department as a pass through for money that goes to state education programs? You start to think about this, you go, hold on a second. We have a whole, a whole agency in the Department of Education, whole department that seems to exist to be the pass through, the middleman for federal funds that go into, why don't we just, if we're going to give federal money to education, give money to states that are actually educating kids and running colleges and, you know, universities. So I think I'm all in favor of this. Education Secretary Linda McMahon has started a public campaign for the end of her department. Yes, yes, that's what you like to see. The person running it saying, this should not even be a job. This should go away. But there's been, you know, the Department of Education has really just been a progressive policy arm under the guise of education. But it's part of a, part of a really a lived deep state operation for a long time. Because Department of Ed is so left wing, it doesn't really matter what administration is in charge, Republican or Democrat. The Department of Ed just pushes for policies that are left wing because that's who works there. It's a bit like the Department of, or the Environmental Protection Agency. EPA is full of left wing climate change loons. And so it doesn't matter if you have a Republican administration. You have ideologues in an agency who are pushing an agenda and doing so against the wishes of the Republican in the White House. So you got to clean things up. You got to deal with the mess. Yeah, I think this is great. You ask people what is the. It's always so fun too. I go, okay, I go into grok, as you know, I like grok a lot. What does the department, Department of Education do? And let's just see what it says and I'll read this to you. A cabinet level federal agency created in 1980. Its main job is to oversee and support education, but it does not run public schools. It distributes federal funding, enforces federal education laws and collects research and administers student financial aid. So it's a pass through for a lot of federal dollars. And it also, in terms of the civil rights stuff with education, that's just pure, you know, DEI obsessed left wing policy stuff. There's no actual need for any, no actual need for any of this. And think about this. How, how serious could the Department of Education be about civil rights when they have been unwilling to stop the madness of the gender identity disorder stuff going on in all these schools where they have men pretending to be women. How can you say you're enforcing Title 9 when a guy can, can say he's a girl and play on women's sports? So the Department of Education gotta go. Hope it goes. They're moving in that direction. Democrats are gonna fight because the Democrats, they get to have policy through agencies and departments even when they lose elections. And that's one of the incredibly important revelations of the Trump era is that if you don't actually deal with this, even when we win elections as Republicans, you end up still with a lot of Democrat administration or Democrat policy pushed from these places. Now, she also spoke, Caroline Levitt also spoke about Zoran Mamdadi meeting with Trump tomorrow. This is cut 28. Let's hear.
Caroline Levitt
Speaks volumes that tomorrow we have a communist coming to the White House because that's who the Democrat Party elected as the mayor of the largest city in the country. I think it's very telling, but I also think it speaks to the fact that President Trump is willing to meet with anyone and talk to anyone and to try to do what's right on behalf of the American people, whether they live in blue states or red states or blue cities, in a city that's becoming much more left than I think this president ever anticipated in his many years of living in New York himself.
Clay Travis
You know why they are so touchy about the whole communist thing? Because we all know that there's some truth to it. If it were absurd, if it weren't really something that bothered them, then they wouldn't always go, no, it's a democratic socialist. He's a democratic socialist. You know, there was the American. I guess it still exists, but it's kind of a joke now. But the American Communist Party grew, And in the 1940s, I think it was basically about 100,000 people. You know what happened? They all became Democrats. You know what happened to the communist movement in America? It got folded into the Democrat Party. That's a whole other thing. That's a whole other thing. And there are some great books on this stuff you can read. Why do they hate Nixon so much? They really hate Nixon so much because he was a staunch anti communist and he worked to expose that. There were a lot of Democrats who were willing to play footsie with communists back in the day. But I digress on that one. I digress. Look, I think Trump will be, as I said before, he'll be himself. He'll be charming and funny to Mamdani. There'll probably be some great lines. And what was the thing? What did Trump say to the. I don't even know who he said it to. So I. But he was on Air Force One and some reporter interrupted him and he said, quiet, piggy. And the thing about this is it's just the Democrats, they get so upset about it, they're gonna get so angry about it, and it just encourages them to do more stuff like that, like, they're not going to make Trump stop being Trump. They can try. They can try to shame his supporters. It's not gonna work, but, yeah, I'd never seen that. Can you guys pull that? I don't know if everyone's heard it. Do we have it? Trump saying, quiet, piggy. I hope it's not AI. I don't think it was AI. I'm. So now I have to worry about any clip that I see. This is the world we're in, my friends. There's stuff that. It can look very real. They have programs now that can make Trump look like he said things close to what he said, but change the words a little bit. This is the world that we are in right now. So that's why I, I'm always like, oh, gosh, I hope that's not AI. But I'm. I'm pretty sure he said. I'm pretty sure he said this one. Just like I was sure that he was meeting Momdani tomorrow and he is. The Mamdani disaster in New York, I think is inevitable. I hope it's not for New York's sake and for my family that are there, but I think the mom Donnie situation is likely to get really. Get really bad. Really bad. We'll see. Oh, and Caroline Levitt also got into an exchange with a reporter about that military psa. Can we. Is it really even a psa? It's just kind of an underhanded attack, but here she is. This is cut 29. Listen to it.
Caroline Levitt
The President and the Vice President, for that matter, have accused the other side of encouraging political violence. Isn't that exactly what the President is doing when he says that members of.
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Caroline Levitt
Why aren't you talking about what these members of Congress are doing to encourage it, incite violence? They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members not to. To defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders. Every single. Refuse an illegal order, which they're suggesting. They're suggesting, Nancy, that the President has not given illegal orders, which he has not. Every single order that is given to this United States military by this commander in chief and through this command. Chain of command through the Secretary of War is lawful, and the courts have proven that this administration has an unparalleled record at the Supreme Court. Because we are following the laws. We don't defy court orders. We do things by the books. And to, to suggest and encourage that active duty service members defy the chain of command is a very dangerous thing. For sitting members of Congress to do and they should be held accountable. And that's what the President wants to see.
Clay Travis
He's not messing around. And I think just based on the number of you who are veterans yourselves or even active duty, but veterans who have written in very unhappy with this. This psa, it's, it's meant to be, it's meant to undermine the commander in chief. Let's just be honest. It's meant to undermine the commander in chief. That is what they are doing. And it, it just goes with everything else. They, they have to tell stories, fables to themselves to justify their Trump derangement. And that's yet another, another example of it. All right, Christmas is five weeks, is that right? Five weeks from today. My gosh. So for any last minute holiday shoppers in this audience, let me tell you, you don't want to grab a gift card. That's the easy way out. All right, I've got the suggestion your one stop shop for all Christmas shop needs Cozy Earth. This is what I got for all my family members in New York. I got my mom a bubble pink bubble cuddle blanket. I got my dad a gray bubble cuddle blanket. Sounds slightly more masculine when it's gray. It's amazing blankets though. I mean I have one downstairs here that's white. Karen. I snuggle up with it with ginger and speed all the time. Cozy Earth products are just fantastic. I've got a sweatshirt from them. I've got sheets on my better from Cozy Earth. So I recommend you start with the sheets. Just get yourself some new sheets. And from Cozy Earth you'd be like, these are better than my sheets. Wow, these are so worth it. Get them for anyone else in your family. It's a great Christmas gift. And once you're on the Cozy Earth website, you'll see there's so there's great deals and there's so many things you can get for people. You can get all of your Christmas shopping done at Cozy Earth. And the people you give Cozy Earth gifts to are gonna really like them. That's the thing. It's easy. And the people that you give the gifts to are gonna love it. So go right now to cozyearth.com cozyearth.com use my name Buck as your promo code on top of their site wide sale for up to 40% off. Again, the website get all your Christmas shopping done. Clothing, bedding, towels, gifts of all kinds. Cozy Earth.com use code Buck and share luxury this holiday season.
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Clay Travis
Should take my own advice and always bet on Buck because I was correct. There was in fact an exchange on Air Force One last week where Trump said. I mean, he's, he's so Trump, honestly, like, oh man, this guy, this guy. You know what? Let's just. Can you just play it for everybody. If you can hear that? Well, he said Quiet Piggy. Why is he calling her Piggy? Oh man, Trump, you're, you're a funny guy. By the way, if you're curious, she's not. The reporter is a Bloomberg reporter. She's not overweight. So I just. He just, he just went with Quiet Piggy. I don't know, but that's what he said. Oh, the President of the United States selling a journalist. Quiet Piggy. This is the, this is the world as it is, my friends. As it is. Now let's get into some of your. Talk back, some of your calls. I think we have Earl in Raleigh, North Carolina. Wants to talk about that PSA what's going on? Earl?
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Earl.
Clay Travis
Going once. Yeah, we got you, buddy. Go for it.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. When. When these senators get up there and they say this kind of stuff, it's like a dog whistle. And they know that there's just enough disgruntled military members out there who are going to hear this message and they're going to go out and they're going to do something crazy, something, some bizarre, maybe illegal or whatever. And the senators can stand back and say, well, you know, we never told them to do this. All we said was, hey, you know, don't follow illegal orders. And this. All it is is it's a way for them to incite bad behavior and then think that they can walk away without any dirt on their own hands. Remember that Air Force airmen a couple of years ago burned himself alive over Palestine? It's the same thing, you know, it's getting people to do stuff and then saying, well, you know, we didn't tell them to do that specific thing.
Clay Travis
I agree with your assessment on the psa. I didn't remember about that Air Force guy, but if you. That's. I don't remember that story. But thank you for bringing up something that I need to check up on, but thank you for calling in. Let's get to some of these talk backs here. Podcast listener Mark A. In North Carolina. Play it. Hey, Clay and Buck, this is Mark in Charlotte, North Carolina, listening to the podcast. It must be pretty nice being a bleeding heart liberal. There's no accountability, there's no precedent, there's no slippery slope, and you get to virtual signal in any way you wish. You get to enforce any laws that you want and people will love you for it. Alrighty, thank you very much and have a great day. Hey, man, thank you so much for listening to the podcast and getting on the talkback. For all the podcast listeners, talk back's the way to go because if you can't call in live, you can send us a talkback and get on air just like that. And yeah, I agree. One of the great. One of the great appeals, unfortunately, of being a Democrat, being a liberal is never having to face reality. You just want the good things for the good people. C.C. woody from Arizona. We'll get to this one. Hey, Buck. Afternoon. It's Woody in Arizona. This meeting between Trump and Mamdani needs to be televised because if it's not, you know, Mondame will come out of that meeting and he'll twist the truth of what was said and outright lie. So much like the showdown between Zelensky and Trump in the Oval Office. That time was televised. This needs to be televised. The Trump Mundani revolution will be televised. Perhaps. We will see. We will see. Thank you so much for being here with me, team. I'll be back with you tomorrow.
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Clay Travis
It depends on the, I don't know, air traffic control or whatever, but maybe Clay will join. Maybe not. We're not sure yet. But I'll definitely be here tomorrow. We'll have a great show. Talk to you then.
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This is an I Heart podcast.
Date: November 20, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Host: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into several major political topics alongside their guest, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. The central theme circles around accountability and reform in sprawling government institutions: the FBI’s transparency, the impending release of the Epstein files, Department of Education dismantlement, and the challenges of passing substantive legislative reforms. Featuring exclusive commentary from the White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, the episode also engages listeners with reactions and calls on these national issues, offering trenchant analysis with their signature blend of humor and candor.
(Start – 07:50)
"There's more information that will eventually come out and some that we have not yet discovered. So we're still doing investigation."
— Sen. Ron Johnson, (07:38)
(07:50 – 10:55)
"You know, in the end, representative government actually works."
— Sen. Ron Johnson, (10:52)
(10:55 – 13:32)
"No, Republicans have solutions. It's how can we overcome the impediment that the structure of Obamacare is with the current filibuster... it’s time to end the filibuster."
— Sen. Ron Johnson, (12:40)
(13:32 – 15:47)
"They’re literally trying to destroy a person of unbelievable integrity. Judge Troopas... They're attempting to. That’s what all Arter Cross is all about. Criminalizing what basically JFK did in Hawaii."
— Sen. Ron Johnson, (14:24)
(27:07 – 32:53)
"This common sense action brings the Trump administration much closer to finally returning education where it belongs at the state and local level, not in Washington, DC."
— Caroline Levitt, Press Secretary, (27:26)
"Education Secretary Linda McMahon has started a public campaign for the end of her department. Yes, that's what you like to see—the person running it saying, this should not even be a job."
— Clay Travis, (29:19)
(21:56 – 25:21, 45:23 – end)
Callers’ Concerns:
Podcaster Comments:
"It must be pretty nice being a bleeding heart liberal. There’s no accountability, there’s no precedent, there’s no slippery slope and you get to virtue signal in any way you wish."
— Mark from Charlotte, NC, (46:44, paraphrased from talkback)
(32:54 – 44:09)
Clay and Buck apply their trademark blend of sharp political critique, humor, and exasperation over government overreach and media narratives. The episode is lively, engaging, and opinionated, interspersed with listener calls reflecting a broad range of conservative grassroots perspectives.
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show was a robust exploration of government accountability, bureaucratic reform, and the ongoing culture war in American politics. With Senator Ron Johnson, the hosts dissected the FBI’s handling of sensitive investigations, Congressional transparency, the incremental dismantling of the Department of Education, and the fraught process of legislative reform. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt’s remarks provided exclusive official context to these changes. Listener interactions rounded out the episode, underscoring conservative skepticism about the motivations and accountability of entrenched government institutions and their media enablers.