Hour 3 - Clay's Needle and Poop Walk

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

February 5, 2026 (Hour 3) – Clay's Needle and Poop Walk

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into pressing news stories and current events, blending sharp political commentary with personal anecdotes and moments of comic relief. The first half is dominated by host Clay Travis’s candid on-the-ground report about deteriorating street conditions in San Francisco, as seen during his walk to the studio. The second half of the hour covers breaking developments in the kidnapping case of Nancy Guthrie, including an in-depth discussion with reporter Lyndon Blake. Later, Senator Dave McCormick joins to discuss national issues ranging from congressional spending habits to voter ID laws and the economic transformation of Pennsylvania.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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1. Clay’s Walk Through San Francisco: Needles and Human Waste on the Streets

• [02:37 – 12:16] Clay’s Walk and Personal Observations

  • Clay Travis begins by explaining he’s broadcasting from San Francisco and recounts his morning walk from his hotel to the iHeart studios.
  • Despite being in what is considered a "walkable, beautiful" city, Clay describes encountering “eight different abandoned needles” and “four different human feces related deposits” on a 1.5 mile route through downtown (03:45).
  • He recounts being warned not to walk due to safety concerns, even in a central area, calling it “an incredible indictment…for any city.”
  • Clay remarks on the natural beauty of San Francisco contrasted by its street-level conditions, describing scenes of “clearly strung out people” wandering around at 8:15 a.m., not just late night.
  • He compares this to past visits to other cities, notably how Washington D.C. became “infinitely better” post-cleanup and draws a direct line between visible filth in a city and higher rates of violent crime.

  Quote:
  “How has a city as wealthy as San Francisco, as beautiful as San Francisco, descended into feces and needles everywhere? … How have we come to accept filth as a standard cost of living in an American city?”
  — Clay Travis (08:47)

  • Clay concludes: “Filth is a choice” and expresses concern for public safety, especially for children.

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2. Breaking: Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping Investigation

• [12:16 – 20:43] Press Conference Reaction with Lyndon Blake

  • Clay recaps the three major takeaways from the latest Arizona press conference:

    1. No suspects yet.
    2. Blood found on the porch confirmed as Nancy Guthrie’s.
    3. Belief that Nancy is still alive; multiple ransom notes have been sent (including to a local station and TMZ).

  • Lyndon Blake, Daily Wire reporter, joins for an update:

    • All media outlets received identical ransom notes demanding "millions in bitcoin," with a 5 p.m. Thursday deadline, later extended to Monday ([12:16–14:17]).
    • The notes included alarming details (Nancy’s Apple Watch, a malfunctioning floodlight) only a perpetrator would know, increasing their credibility.
    • The Guthrie family, especially through Savannah Guthrie’s video statement, has publicly demanded “without a shadow of a doubt proof of life,” addressing potential manipulation by AI-generated images ([17:11]).
    • There’s a $50,000 reward, but the exact amount sought in bitcoin remains vague.

  Quote:
  “The big story has been the ransom notes…They demanded millions of dollars in bitcoin with a deadline of 5pm today. The extended deadline for payment is Monday. And if payment wasn’t received by Monday … there are words in there that threaten to kill Nancy.”
  — Lyndon Blake (12:16)

• [14:17 – 18:48] Neighborhood & Investigation Details

  • Discussion on why there’s a lack of security footage:
    • The neighborhood is described as spaced out, rural, with little camera coverage or street lighting. There’s skepticism about why no vehicle footage exists of the presumed perpetrators.
  • Despite rumors, police now refuse to confirm signs of forced entry. The front door was found unlocked, raising questions about whether Nancy knew her abductor.

  Quote:
  “Today in the press conference, Sheriff Chris Nanow said that he’s not going to say there were signs of forced entry. … That part stuck out to me as well.”
  — Lyndon Blake (17:11)

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3. Political Analysis: Interview with Senator Dave McCormick

• [25:01 – 36:24] Fiscal Responsibility, Voter ID, and Bipartisanship

  • Clay discusses with Sen. McCormick the lack of fiscal discipline in Congress, noting the $37 trillion national debt and “interest payments bigger than our defense budget.” McCormick expresses dismay at the inability to enact even modest reforms.
  • They discuss Medicaid reforms as an example of political resistance to change, with McCormick describing how even small work requirements are painted in extreme terms by political opponents.
  • There’s a segment on bipartisanship and McCormick’s surprising working relationship with Democrat Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. McCormick praises Fetterman’s authenticity, trustworthiness, and their efforts to find common ground.

  Quote:
  “It was kind of like a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. I’m like, holy cow, this is what we’re dealing with. … If we’re not going to do something, we should be fired.”
  — Sen. Dave McCormick (27:25)

• [30:46 – 33:12] Voter ID Debate and the SAVE Act

  • McCormick strongly supports nationwide voter ID laws, co-sponsoring the SAVE Act, and expresses frustration at Democratic opposition.
  • He stresses that even most Democrats support voter ID in polling, and challenges Senate Democrats to defend their opposition publicly.

  Quote:
  “You should only be able to vote if you’re a U.S. citizen and you should be able to prove that with voter ID, just like you have to prove that to get on an airplane.”
  — Sen. Dave McCormick (31:22)

• [33:33 – 35:14] Pennsylvania Economic Transformation

  • Highlights President Trump’s support for Pennsylvania’s energy and tech sectors, attributing “$92 billion in investment” to favorable policies and teamwork.

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4. Lighter Moments and Listener Interaction

• Super Bowl Predictions

  • Clay’s Pick: Seahawks 24–21 ([35:14, 40:06])
  • Senator McCormick shares his household’s traditions and personal Super Bowl allegiances.

• Listener Feedback: Street Cleanliness

  • Jamie from San Diego calls in to confirm Clay’s observations about urban filth and public sanitation in Californian cities ([43:39]).
  • Clay notes: “If you are allowing filth anywhere in your city, there’s no way that the crime is not also following the filth.” ([43:50])

• White House Involvement

  • White House spokesperson confirms President Trump watched the Guthrie press conference and is personally engaged in the federal response ([42:28]).

  Quote:
  “The president and I were watching the press conference about the search for Savannah Guthrie’s mother, which is just a heartbreaking situation. … Our hearts and our prayers are with Savannah and her entire family.”
  — Caroline Levitt, White House spokesperson (42:28)

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Notable Quotes & Moments With Timestamps

• “Eight different abandoned needles, four different human feces related deposits...in the center of San Francisco on my walk.”
  – Clay Travis (07:45)

• “Filth is a choice.”
  – Clay Travis (10:20)

• “The ransom notes demanded millions of dollars in bitcoin with a deadline of 5pm today. … If payment wasn't received by Monday…words in there that threatened to kill Nancy.”
  – Lyndon Blake (12:45)

• “We know that when investigators got to the scene, the front door was unlocked. … He [Sheriff Nanow] would not discuss how the person or persons got in the house.”
  – Lyndon Blake (17:16)

• “I guarantee to you that the level of violent crime is directly correlated with the level of filth on the Streets.”
  – Clay Travis (10:30)

• “It was kind of like a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. … If I would present to my board, hey, we're going to be bankrupt but we got no plan to reduce spending…I would have gotten fired.”
  – Sen. Dave McCormick (27:25)

• “You should only be able to vote if you’re a U.S. citizen and you should be able to prove that with voter id.”
  – Sen. Dave McCormick (31:24)

• Jamie in San Diego on public sanitation:
  “The amount of human feces I would see while I was walking downtown was insane. But nobody would believe me. They told me I was just making it up.”
  – Jamie (43:39)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------| | 02:37 | Clay describes his walk through San Francisco | | 12:16 | Update on Nancy Guthrie investigation | | 14:17 | Lack of neighborhood footage discussion | | 17:11 | Details on forced entry, proof of life issues | | 25:01 | Interview with Sen. Dave McCormick begins | | 35:14 | Super Bowl predictions and family traditions | | 42:28 | White House (Caroline Levitt) on Guthrie case | | 43:39 | Listener Jamie on urban sanitation |

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Episode Summary

This hour provides a candid look at America’s urban and political realities. Clay’s visceral story about San Francisco’s streets sets a tone of concern about city management and public safety. The kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie drives home the seriousness of national headlines, with expert reporting and on-the-ground updates. Senator McCormick offers perspective on Washington's fiscal dysfunction, efforts at bipartisan problem-solving, and the broader implications of voter ID laws and economic development. The show balances these heavy topics with lighthearted moments around the Super Bowl and listener feedback, keeping the tone energetic and engaged.

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show continues to blend personal experience with high-profile political insights, offering listeners both critical information and entertainment.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis (Host)]

Welcome in our number three Thursday edition of the program. We appreciate all of you out there listening to us all over the country in all 50 states. Reminder, Monday, you will be able to listen to this program on satellite radio. People have been asking for a very, very long time. Channel 1 23, I believe it's the Triumph station. If you are a satellite radio subscriber. We will continue to be on all 50 states on nearly 600 affiliate stations. We thank all of you who are listening everywhere. But in addition to everything else, channel123 on satellite radio, this show will now be available there beginning Monday at noon eastern, 9am on the west Coast. I am on the west coast right now. I've been in California all week and this morning I got out. We're, by the way, going to get an update on this Nancy Guthrie story in a bit. But for those of you out there that were wondering or have been following this, and it is the number one story on every newscast. No suspects. Blood on the porch confirmed hers. They believe she is still alive. And there have been, they think, multiple ransom notes sent to a local affiliate station in the Arizona marketplace and and also one to tmz. They believe those ransom notes are in some way authentic because they describe the scene of the kidnapping in a way that only the people who were involved in the kidnapped kidnapping might be aware of. So we will continue to update you on that. We're going to have a call in as soon as that press conference ends in the near future. I wanted to mention this. I feel fortunate I get to travel all over the country. We have great affiliate stations. I'm in our San Francisco I Heart studios right now. I walked from my hotel this morning in San Francisco to the studio here, and they actually told me, hey, you probably don't want to walk. And I thought when I was told that what an incredible indictment it is for any city for you to be staying in a hotel and for someone to say, hey, you're probably not going to want to walk. Now I understand if I had to walk across an interstate or if it was unsafe because of the roadways and the method in which I would have to get there. That wasn't the case here. For those of you who have been to San Francisco before, it's a very walkable city. It's not a very substantial size, geographical, geographically, of A city, it's a beautiful place. One of, I would argue, the most beautiful cities, natural beauty that exists anywhere in the United States and indeed really anywhere around the world. And they said, hey, you probably don't want to walk from your hotel. And one of the guys we have out here, my buddy Dan Dockic, who does a show for us at Outkick, we've got a bunch of people out here for the super bowl, which is taking place in Santa Clara, not San Francisco, for those of you who care. And Dan said he and his wife, they got in the previous night at 10pm and they didn't feel safe going into our hotel. Now we're right in the center of San Francisco. And he said it looked like a third world country on the streets with all of the homeless people and the way that people were behaving on the streets. This morning I'm up early, Woke up at 6am on the west coast doing all my prep, go get a coffee. And I like to walk. I like to walk in the cities that I'm visiting to get a little bit better sense for what they're like. Probably a lot of you who travel know what I'm talking about. You get into a car, you move fast, it's hard to really get a sense for what a city's like. You walk around in a city and you feel like you have a little bit better idea what the surrounding environment's like. So I had about a mile and a half walk this morning from my hotel right in the center Market street, right downtown San Francisco, down Producer Alley. You can figure out exactly what area we're in. You can text me. I'm not an expert on the different neighborhoods of San Francisco, but about a mile and a half I think I walked towards the water, towards the bay, towards Alcatraz, where I could potentially swim spectacularly as needed if I weren't going to be eaten by a shark. And I passed eight different abandoned needles on my walk. I don't know what city you guys live in. I don't see needles on the street very often, anywhere that I visit and I go all over the place. Eight different abandoned needles, four different human feces related deposits in my walk from a hotel right in the center of downtown San Francisco to the I Heart studios in San Francisco. And I, when I saw the first needle, I couldn't believe it. You kind of feel sick. You're eerie. You think, hey man, you know, gosh, if you got a two year old or you got a kid that's walking around on the streets, you know, if you know and have done that, kids will reach over and pick up anything. I couldn't believe when I saw the first needle. I saw eight different abandoned needles in the center of San Francisco on my walk. And then I saw human feces four different times. You say, well, maybe it was a dog, was not a dog. And I thought to myself, what are we doing? I passed multiple clearly strung out people on the streets who were out of their mind at 8:15 in the morning. We're not talking about midnight, we're not talking about middle of the night, 8:15 in the morning, people wandering around, clearly strung out, out of their minds. And all of this is happening when the super bowl is in town. And if you remember before, I think it was San Francisco that Gavin Newsom cleaned up when China came to visit, cuz he wanted the city to look better. So this may be a cleaned up version of San Francisco that I am seeing. And they said, don't walk, you probably need to take a car. I walked and I saw eight needles and four human dumps. And I thought to myself, what are we doing? Tons of strung out people. How has a city as wealthy as San Francisco, as beautiful as San Francisco, descended into feces and needles everywhere? And people are just out and they just deal with it. I also passed joggers. And I'm thinking to myself, you're in tennis shoes. Like I would be nervous that I would step on a needle. Can you imagine stepping on a freaking needle in the middle of a city and being terrified about what you might have gotten exposed to? How have we come to accept filth as a standard cost of living in an American city? That's what I was thinking as I was walking and looking at my surrounding. And I've talked about this before, Washington D.C. is infinitely better now with President Trump having cleaned it up. But you can go back. I tweeted during the Biden administration, I went to Washington D.C. a city that I know very well, cuz I lived there for four years in college. And there were just homeless encampments all over the city, parks that had just been taken over and people were putting tents up and just living there. Filth is a choice and you can say, and I think it's fair. Well, Clay, there are more serious things to worry about. We're concerned about murder, we're concerned about robberies, we're concerned about carjackings. I would submit to you, I guarantee to you that the level of violent crime is directly correlated with the level of filth on the Streets. I guarantee you that's the case. So that was my walk this morning. Now we are joined by Lyndon Blake. I know Lyndon well. She works at the Daily Wire. Now, she has worked off and on without kick a variety of different places. She does good work. Uh, and she has been monitoring the press conference for all of us that's just been taking place in Arizona for the absolute latest as it relates to Nancy Guthrie. I want to get that update for all of you because it is something that many people are following very closely. Okay, Lyndon. What I saw from the press conference, no suspects, $50,000 reward, blood on the porch, that is there was Nancy Guthrie's, and they believe she is alive. Those are the three major takeaways that I jotted down from this press conference that just happened. Is all of that accurate so far as you could hear? And what else should we know about what was revealed in the last 30 minutes or so in that press conference?

[Lyndon Blake]

Yeah, you took good notes, Clay. Everything you said there was correct. My biggest takeaway from this press conference. Again, so much information is still being held close to the chest of these investigators. But the big story has been the ransom notes since Savannah Guthrie and her two siblings addressed the ransom notes head on in a video last night, talking directly to the people who may have their mother, I mean, held hostage at this point. And I wanted to talk about the deadlines that were revealed from the ransom notes. In this press conference, the FBI revealed that the ransom notes that went to the media outlets, there were two local stations in Arizona, K O L D and K gun plus tmz, all received the same ransom note. That's new information. We could assume they were the same, but now we know that all three got the same ransom notes that demanded millions of dollars in bitcoin. With a deadline of 5pm today, the extended deadline for payment is Monday. And this didn't come from the press conference, but KGUN said in the ransom note that if payment wasn't received by Monday, that second deadline, there are words in there that threatened to kill Nancy. So that's why they're taking this ransom note so seriously. And there are also two pieces of information in that ransom note. And you can look at this information and say, maybe anyone can know this, but they mentioned Nancy's apple watch and a floodlight at her house. That was something off about it. And those are the two things that you have to imagine struck the family as alarming. They that were factual that made them warrant a response to address the person that wrote this ransom note. Assuming this is all legitimate. The legitimacy has not been confirmed. They're not saying, yes. The person that wrote this ransom note has. Nancy Guthrie. What they are saying is they're alarming things and they're taking the notes seriously.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

Okay. One of the things that. Thank you for all that information. We're talking to Lyndon Blake. One of the things that stands out to me that I just find kind of unbelievable, and I talked about it in the first hour of the show, I think is in my neighborhood, every single house has a camera on it, meaning a ring camera of some sort. So if a car drives by, maybe my camera is not working, which is, I think, one of the reports that's out there. But there would be a lot of people in the neighborhood whose cameras would be working to have no suspects. It sounds strange to me because I would think there would be a lot of video of presumably whoever got her had to come in in a vehicle. Right. She's not able to be that mobile, so they had to come in on a vehicle. I would think there would be lots of evidence in the neighborhood of cars that have been driving by. Has there been any discussion about that? Not. I get that her individual camera may not be working, but what about the neighborhood at large?

[Lyndon Blake]

Yeah. So the neighborhood, the way it's set up, houses are very far away from each other. And there's no street lights at all on this street. So they act like. And there's a lot of foliage and stuff. You know, think like cacti and whatever that are blocking the houses from the street. So they're still saying they're processing. They said they've been going up and. And asking for that. But at this point. That is a weird point. That's a question I have. How do we not have. I don't care if it's the most grainy nighttime image of any vehicle that may have gone through that area sometime after. Now, we know 1:47am Sunday morning. That's a good question. The foot. The camera footage is just the big question mark. And the only thing I can think of if they do know more about that than they're telling us, is there really just focusing in on their. Further along than what they're leading on, even though, again, they say no suspect, no person of interest, and trying to follow up on something in that camera footage that would just. That would damage the investigation at this point.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

Okay, couple of questions here, additional for you. And I'm going to ask them both, and you can kind of unpack them. Savannah Guthrie and her siblings asked for proof of life, There is a discussion that they believe she is alive. Do we know. First question. Do we know why they believe she's alive? Second question. Have they said what amount of money is being demanded? Do we have any idea? Bitcoin obviously is harder to trace, but do we have any idea what dollar amount they are saying, hey, you've got to give us this in order to get her back?

[Lyndon Blake]

Yeah. There's no indication of how much money, just besides the millions of bitcoin. And what was the question you asked.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

Before that about why do they believe she's alive? Is there any suggestion that they've actually seen proof of life yet?

[Lyndon Blake]

No, no. They say that they have no reason to believe that she's not alive. It was their thing. So they're acting as if she's alive. But there's been nothing. But I thought one part in the video that was interesting when they directly Savannah and her siblings address the AI of it all and said that images and videos can be manipulated and that they demand without a shadow of a doubt proof of life. So it makes you think, has the FBI, has someone received these. These fake images that they're not releasing? But no, they say that on record they have no reason to believe that she's not alive. One other thing, Clay, that I do want to point out, since we were talking about the neighborhood and that situation with the camera footage and stuff, multiple outlets have reported over now the last five days that there were signs of forced entry. Today in the press conference, Sheriff Chris Nanow said that he's not going to say there were signs of forced entry. And I thought that was interesting how he said he pulled back on that. We know that when investigators got to the scene, the front door was unlocked. And he's saying that he would not discuss how the person or persons got in the house and wouldn't describe if it was forced entry or not. And that also makes your just curiosity button go off again to who are we looking for here? Is it someone that is familiar with Nancy's patterns? What if they did just go through the front door? You know what I'm saying? That would just. I don't know that that part stuck out to me as well.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

The White House, by the way, a reporter inside of the White House is reported that President Trump watched the entire Arizona press conferen on the latest developments on the search for Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy. That's according to Jennifer Jacobs at CBS News. So the president is super involved. We know the FBI is involved. If there was initially, a 5pm deadline today to bump it to Monday seems like a big jump to me. That would also mean that whoever is holding Nancy Guthrie, if I'm surmising, feels very confident they're not going to be caught because Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, adding four days to a deadline I would think would increase the risk substantially that you would be tracked in some way.

[Lyndon Blake]

Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, the two deadlines is weird. Why would you say 5pm Thursday and then. But needs to be done for sure by Monday.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

Yeah.

[Lyndon Blake]

Or there's language in there threatening to kill her. It's, it's, it's interesting. And they, and again, like that's what the ransom notes is. They're, they're not necessarily saying that this is the key here, but it's just signs that can't be ignored. And they did want to make clear that even though the FBI was there at the home where the siblings were filming the video and they can advise the family, it was the Guthrie's decision to speak directly to the perpetrator to put that video out. Meaning again. And you know, Clay, with Savannah's background in law and all the cases she's covered, she has to have a gut feeling and stuff in that letter that makes her say no. Like we are going to respond to this and engage and we want to talk to this person.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

No doubt. And we'll continue to follow. Thank you for the time, Lyndon, thank you for updating on all this and we'll see what happens going forward and I'll react a little bit more to this as we continue. By the way, Senator Dave McCormick of Pennsylvania scheduled to join us as well. Thank you, Lyndon.

[Lyndon Blake]

All right, thanks guys. Bye.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

All right, when we come back, more reaction to this story and more. This is Clayne. Buck, thanks for hanging with U.S. news and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis (Host)]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. I am out in California, super bowl coming up. I'll get the pick of a guy who's pretty big football fan, big sports fan in General. Senator Dave McCormick. We'll get to that in a moment. But I'll start with this because everybody is talking about it. Senator McCormick, are you and your family, are you following this Nancy Guthrie story? The, the press secretary Caroline Levitt just said that she and President Trump watched the entire press conference that just aired. It's a crazy story and, and certainly everybody's rooting for a great outcome. I know a ton is going on, but it seems like this is in many ways captured the attention of the nation.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I know. I, I haven't been following it as much in the last couple hours, but I listened to the, the video last night of the three children and just so heartbreaking. I have a 87 year old dad and an 85 year old mom and I'm just imagining the sense of helplessness when you're your parents who you want to take care of are, are vulnerable and who knows what's happened. And it's just absolutely heartbreaking and it's riveting.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

We are, we are talking with Senator Dave McCormick right now. When you, you and I texted because I read your, let's dive into what you're doing now. You've been in the Senate for a year. You wrote a piece for the Wall Street Journal having to do with the budget related issues and just how much money is being spent. You ran to try to help address this. But in a year have you been stunned at just how rapidly people spend money, Democrats, Republicans, everybody on Capitol Hill and how little regard there is for in any way trying to balance the budget? I loved your editorial.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, well, Clay, you know, it feels like a lifetime ago since you and I were together in Pennsylvania during, during my campaign. And one of the things I said is I'm going to be a guy who shakes up Washington. I'm a, I'm a business person. I'm going to try to bring business person sensibilities. And the reason for writing that is, you know, we've got $37 trillion debt, we have interest payments that are bigger than our defense budget and it's growing out of control this year alone, despite making some, some modest progress in the Working Families Tax Cut act. We have a $2 trillion deficit. We're spending $2 trillion more than we're bringing in. And, and the point I was making is we did some reforms. We did some Medicaid reforms, which are tiny. They essentially slow the rate of growth from like 6% a year. Medicaid's the fastest growing program. It's grown by billions of dollars. And Pennsylvania has grown by 80% in the last five years with, with the same number of recipients, 3 million recipients. And I was just making the point. We made modest reforms, basically saying, you got to work if you're going to receive it, if you're able bodied. 80 hours a month. Clay, this is not 80 hours a week. 80 hours a month. And you would have thought we were dragging babies out of incubators. I mean, it was the way these modest reforms were presented by the public, to the public, by the Democrats, by the, by the liberal media was absolutely unbelievably irresponsible. And the point I was making is, listen, we're going to fall off a cliff. And I'm, you know, my pop up, my granddad was a county commissioner in Indiana, Pennsylvania, he's a New Deal Democrat. So I grew up with that in my house. I want to take care of the helpless, the vulnerable among us, but I want to do it in a responsible way. And right now, we're going to destroy all these programs because we're not able to make, make a modest, the modest kinds of modest reforms that are necessary to make them viable. And so it was kind of like a Mr. Smith goes to Washington. I'm like, holy cow, this is what we're dealing with. And I ended with the point, hey, listen, when I was the CEO, if I would present to my board, hey, we're going to be bankrupt, but we got no plan to reduce spending and we got no strategy. I would have gotten fired on the spot. And I said, well, maybe our elected officials should have that same principle. Listen, if we're not going to do something, we should be fired.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

John Fetterman is maybe the only sane Democrat in the Senate, which is, which is, you know, a small measure of, of praise there. But you guys seem to get along pretty well. And I saw polling recently that Fetterman's actually more popular with Pennsylvania Republicans than he is Pennsylvania Democrats, which kind of made me raise my eyebrows. What is your working relationship been like with Fetterman? What do you should know about him? And about what having One Democrat, one Republican in Pennsylvania says to the country, yeah, there's only.

[Clay Travis]

There's only two states out, 50 that have a split like that. And, you know, he campaigned against me. He was with Bob Casey. And, you know, we met for the first time. Well, I guess for the second. We met once during the campaign. We met the second time after I had won, and we just sat down and talked. And he basically said, listen, you. You know, you seem like a good guy. I'm not going to ever play games. I want to find ways to work together. And I said, okay, you seem like a good guy. Let's do that. And we just build a relationship, a friendship. I trust him. We agree on a lot of things. We look for things to agree on, whether it's stopping fentanyl in Pennsylvania or fracking or the fight against anti Semitism. Both of us are strong supporters of Israel. We both would never vote to shut down the government. And so we have found a lot of common ground. And, you know, I guess the best example of this is he was getting killed by his own party. You know, that people were accusing him of having lost his, you know, cognitive abilities, his mental health. It was just a. It was a horrible thing three or four months ago because he wasn't voting the way the liberal Democrats wanted him to vote. And he was just getting killed. And I was like, nobody's defending him. So I sent him a note and I said, listen, you're getting killed. I'd like to come out and defend you and support you, but I'm afraid it might hurt you. What do you think? And he said, come in, because nobody else is, right? And so I came out and said, this is a disgrace. I know him. You may disagree with him, but he's a good man. And next thing I know, some other Republicans come out, and then some Democrats come out. And I think that sort of solidified it, which is, you know, I've got his back. I'm going to speak truth. Both of us have little tolerance for the nastiness, the name calling, the dehuman, humanizing. Neither of us do that. And it's worked out great. And I'd say we disagree on more things that we agree on, but we're both working hard for Pennsylvania, and I. I feel lucky to have him as a partner.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

Senator from Pennsylvania. Senator, a lot of discussion about voting and in particular, what the rules should be. Nationwide, there's the Face act that is right now in front of the Senate. A lot of debate going on. You won, I think, by 15 or 16,000 votes. But it took a long time for that final race to be called. It seems quite clear that we should have voter ID and nationwide standards. Huge percentages of Democrats and Republicans all agree on that. Why can't we get it done?

[Clay Travis]

You are right. This is a, this is the SAVE Act. I am a co sponsor, a strong public voice on this and I just don't understand it. It's the most basic principle, which is you should only be able to vote if you're a U.S. citizen and you should be able to prove that with voter id, just like you have to prove that to get on an airplane or any basic things in society. And there's a piece of legislation that I think the number of supporters in the Republic side is growing. I'm going to make a very strong public case to get my colleagues to support it and I'm hoping we can get some Democrats to support it. And not supporting a sin defense po indefensible in terms of substance. Why would you ever want to allow people who aren't American citizens, which is in conflict with the Constitution, to be able to vote? And, and why wouldn't you want them to verify that the people they serve? The only reason you would not want that is if you thought you were going to benefit from illegal people voting. Which is the why the Democrat leadership, Even though the 95% of Republicans and 75% of Democrats in polling support voter ID, support this. Well, not the SAVE act, but voter ID. Despite that, we're not having a movement. So I think we need that. We need to have this debate publicly. We need to have the Democrats get on the floor of the Senate and explain why they're not in favor of voter id. And I think when the American public hears that, they will not be convinced. I just listened to Thune in the last day or so say that we're going to have a vote in the Senate, which I think is absolutely the right thing to do and I think everybody should be put on notice. This is a critical thing for America's elections. And more important is as important as the election is the faith that people have in their elections. And you know, a lot of people don't have faith in Pennsylvania, a lot of people don't have faith across America. And unfortunately it's for good reason.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

I think I said the FACE act. That's what Don Lemon got charged under a SAVE act is what the voting ability to make it reliable is. You have seen a lot of transformation occurring in Pennsylvania in a positive way economically. What have the President Economic policies that you supported, the tax cuts, what have they meant on the ground in Pennsylvania?

[Clay Travis]

It's been great. I mean, the agenda is the deregulation agenda. The energy dominance agenda is particularly important for Pennsylvania because we're the second largest energy producer in the country, fourth largest natural gas reserves in the world. And the president's not only had great policies, he's been a great supporter. He came, Dean and I, my wife, we hosted an energy and Innovation summit with the President in July. He came as my guest at Carnegie Mellon. His whole cabinet came. We had CEOs from across energy investing, the big tech companies, big hyperscalers. We had, the Democratic governor came, we had big global investors. We had the building trades come. And you need all those people, Clay, to make this happen. This is a team sport. You need all those people to make this transformation happen. And we had a roundtable with the President and all those CEOs, and those CEOs stepped up and committed publicly. $92 billion of investment in Pennsylvania, $50 billion of energy infrastructure, $42 billion in data centers publicly. We had 100 media people there. The reason I say that is that would have been inconceivable under the Biden administration. And it's the kind of effort that we need to transform America to win this global AI and energy race. And what I tell my friends in Pennsylvania is, listen, we're in a race with China for AI leadership. We're also in a race with Georgia and Tennessee and Texas and Florida because capital and talent is like water. It's going to go the path of least resistance. And so my goal is to make Pennsylvania ground zero for all this new investment. It creates hundreds of thousands of jobs, great paying jobs for Pennsylvanians. And we're off to a great start with that.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

All right. Much less significant, but I'm in San Francisco. Game is in Santa Clara on Sunday. The Super Bowl, Seahawks. Pat, I'm taking Seahawks 24 to 21. Have you had time to make your pick yet? Do you have anything? I think you have six daughters, if I'm not mistaken. What is Super Bowl Sunday like in the McCormick household?

[Clay Travis]

Well, it's usually, it's usually has a lot to do with a lot of food and a lot of, a lot of energy and preparing for it. We're, we're going to have. Our girls are spread, they're all out of the house now. They're empty now, so we're not going to have the whole gang. But I'm going to be rooting for the Patriots. I just saw my friend Bob Kraft, and I don't think he'd let me forgive it if I wasn't cheering for him. Now, if it's, if it's the Steelers or the Eagles, the Birds in the super bowl, it's easy. But in this case, I'm hoping for the Patriots. And you know, it's been, they've had an unbelievable season. And you know, I think what the, what, what Bob Kraft and his organization have done has really been remarkable. And to be back in the super bowl after that dynasty they've created is a real tribute to that organization.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

No doubt. Incredible. Thanks to Senator Dave McCormick. We'll talk to you again soon. Let us know how we can help and keep up the good work.

[Clay Travis]

You got it. Thanks for having me.

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[Lyndon Blake]

The president and I were watching the press conference about the search for Savannah Guthrie's mother, which is just a heartbreaking situation. The president, as you all know, spoke directly with Savannah yesterday and told her that the federal government is here to help. Any requests that are made by state and local officials in the search of Ms. Guthrie will absolutely be accommodated. I spoke with the FBI directly about that today as well, and our hearts and our prayers are with Savannah and her entire family as they search for her dear mother.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

So that story continuing to play out again, the big takeaways and there is a massive amount of interest in it. No suspects, $50,000 reward. The table the blood that was found on the porch is Nancy Guthrie's. They do believe she was alive. You can go download the podcast and listen to my conversation with Lyndon Blake at the top of this hour about all of the details surrounding that. Jamie in San Diego I mentioned that I'm out in San Francisco. Eight needles, four different what appear to me human feces related disasters on the street as I walked to the studio this morning. Jamie in San Diego they listened to us out on Coco. She is cut east.

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I used to do dog walking in San Diego and the amount of human feces I would see while I was walking downtown was insane. But nobody would believe me. They told me I was just making.

[Clay Travis (Host)]

It up based on what I saw on the walk here. You are not making it up and again, I just believe it is a clear sign. If you are allowing filth anywhere in your city, there's no way that the crime is not also following the filth. Filth San Francisco needs to clean itself up. It's a beautiful place that has been run into a disaster in terms of just basic sanitation. Based on my walk this morning. Eight needles needles on the street at 8:15 in the morning. What are we doing? Buckle have you back tomorrow 2421 Seahawks win. Get your prize picks done and I hope all of you have fabulous weekend. Buckle have you tomorrow.

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